Re: Debuginfo repositories

2011-03-16 Thread Garrett Holmstrom

On 3/15/2011 12:08, Vaclav Mocek wrote:

Another question: does RHEL6 use Presto plugin and delta rpm?


Not for RHN repos.

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Garrett Holmstrom


Re: Debuginfo repositories

2011-03-15 Thread Troy Dawson

Hello,
We didn't mean to not include the debuginfo repo in the yum 
configuration files.  I thought they were in there.  It wasn't until I 
was doing more documentation about the changes since SL5 that I noticed 
they weren't there.
We are working on updating sl-release so that the debuginfo repo's are 
in there.  Expect it by the end of the week.


As for RedHat yum repositories, you must be thinking about Fedora.  I 
don't have any yum repository configuration files on my RHEL machines. 
It's all handled through rhn.


Troy

On 03/14/2011 07:59 PM, Vaclav Mocek wrote:

Hello,

I am wondering why Scientific Linux doesn't support debuginfo
repositories in the same way as Red Hat does (disabled in *.repo files,
distributed directly in the directory with binaries).
I found some debug information 'hidden' in the directory
/linux/scientific/6rolling/archive/debuginfo/, however I am not sure
if it contains all debuginfo from all other binary directories and is
already in sync.

There are two reasons, why we shall care about debuginfo as a first
class citizen:
1) ABRT
(http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-abrt.html;)
2) SystemTap
(http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/SystemTap_Beginners_Guide/index.html;)

Without debuginfo it is difficult to generate a sensible crash log
(ABRT) and it helps [Red Hat] developers a lot. If one wants to analyse
and tune the performance of the system, the SystemTap is absolutely
essential and it needs debuginfo as well.

Best Regards

Vaclav M.



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Re: Debuginfo repositories

2011-03-15 Thread Vaclav Mocek

Hello Troy,

thank you for reply.

We are working on updating sl-release so that the debuginfo repo's are 
in there.  Expect it by the end of the week.
Great news, I have found few bugs, one is nicely reproducible and I 
would like to report it to RedHat. ABRT + debuginfo will help me a lot.


As for RedHat yum repositories, you must be thinking about Fedora.  I 
don't have any yum repository configuration files on my RHEL machines. 
It's all handled through rhn.
Yes, you are right, I am sorry. The last RHEL I used to use was version 
4.x.  ABRT, SystemTap and all the related infrastructure  I really know 
from Fedora and I naively expected that in RHEL6 it will be used in the 
same way.


Another question: does RHEL6 use Presto plugin and delta rpm?

Vaclav M.


Debuginfo repositories

2011-03-14 Thread Vaclav Mocek

Hello,

I am wondering why Scientific Linux doesn't support debuginfo 
repositories in the same way as Red Hat does (disabled in *.repo files, 
distributed directly in the directory with binaries).
I found some debug information 'hidden' in the directory 
/linux/scientific/6rolling/archive/debuginfo/, however I am not sure 
if it contains all debuginfo from all other binary directories and is 
already in sync.


There are two reasons, why we shall care about debuginfo as a first 
class citizen:
1) ABRT 
(http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Deployment_Guide/ch-abrt.html;)
2) SystemTap 
(http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/SystemTap_Beginners_Guide/index.html;)


Without debuginfo it is difficult to generate a sensible crash log 
(ABRT) and it helps [Red Hat] developers a lot. If one wants to analyse 
and tune the performance of the system, the SystemTap is absolutely 
essential and it needs debuginfo as well.


Best Regards

Vaclav M.