Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: Hi, SL users - I have constructed an SL6 installer USB disk and it works but after asking all the questions, right before starting to install packages, it stops and requests that there be an active network connection. The installation does not seem to proceed until the machine acquires an internet connection. Why is this? How did you make the USB image? I am making an SL6 installer for use on machines located where internet access is physically impossible, so is there a solution or workaround? There is a solution to this but I need to know the answer to the above question. P.S. Let's have a flame war. Why is there no instructions for making USB installer disks? Why is SL distributed as DVD images when none of my computers have no DVD drives? I guess I should be glad that it is not distributed on punch cards or paper tape. Yep , it is good that it is not available on paper tape nor cassette tape. We are working on providing a "usb image" similar to what was available on SL 5. -Connie Sieh
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:09:15PM -0600, Connie Sieh wrote: > On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > >Hi, SL users - I have constructed an SL6 installer USB disk and it works > >but after asking all the questions, right before starting to install > >packages, > >it stops and requests that there be an active network connection. The > >installation > >does not seem to proceed until the machine acquires an internet connection. > > > >Why is this? > > How did you make the USB image? Same as any bootable USB disk. Partition the USB disk, mkfs, rsync bootable filesystem contents, install boot loader. As follows: 1) Partition table looks like this: Disk /dev/sdc: 7996 MB, 7996440576 bytes 224 heads, 56 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders Units = cylinders of 12544 * 512 = 6422528 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 * 11245 7808612 83 Linux NOTE: you need to repartition with -H224 -S56 (or whatever) because I see some USB disks come with random heads and sectors settings. NOTE2: note "boot" flag 2) mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1 as normal, mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/dst 3) rsync -av /triumfcs/mirror/SL/6.1/x64_64/os /mnt/dst (same contents as http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/x86_64/os) 4) directory "Packages" is probably not needed 5) rsync -av .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-07-27-Everything-DVD2.iso /mnt/dst 6) cd /mnt/dst, setup "extlinux" (since the original uses isolinux). I use extlinux, mbr.bin, menu.c32 from extlinux-3.86. 6a) cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc, ./extlinux -i . (notice the dot) 6b) extlinux.conf is a copy of isolinux.cfg with "vesamenu.c32" replaced by "menu.c32" from extlinux-3.86 7) umount /dev/sdc, try to boot it. > >I am making an SL6 installer for use on machines located where internet > >access is physically impossible, so is there a solution or workaround? > > > > There is a solution to this but I need to know the answer to the > above question. Ideally, I would like the installer run from the "Packages" directory rather than the DVD iso images. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On 2011-11-22, at 3:18 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:09:15PM -0600, Connie Sieh wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >> >>> Hi, SL users - I have constructed an SL6 installer USB disk and it works >>> but after asking all the questions, right before starting to install >>> packages, >>> it stops and requests that there be an active network connection. The >>> installation >>> does not seem to proceed until the machine acquires an internet connection. >>> >>> Why is this? >> >> How did you make the USB image? > [snip] Hello All, You might also be able to make a bootable USB stick by using the tool found here: https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ You can select any Live CD you wish I think. :) -Chris
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:09:15PM -0600, Connie Sieh wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: Hi, SL users - I have constructed an SL6 installer USB disk and it works but after asking all the questions, right before starting to install packages, it stops and requests that there be an active network connection. The installation does not seem to proceed until the machine acquires an internet connection. Why is this? How did you make the USB image? Same as any bootable USB disk. Partition the USB disk, mkfs, rsync bootable filesystem contents, install boot loader. As follows: 1) Partition table looks like this: Disk /dev/sdc: 7996 MB, 7996440576 bytes 224 heads, 56 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders Units = cylinders of 12544 * 512 = 6422528 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 * 11245 7808612 83 Linux NOTE: you need to repartition with -H224 -S56 (or whatever) because I see some USB disks come with random heads and sectors settings. NOTE2: note "boot" flag 2) mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1 as normal, mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/dst 3) rsync -av /triumfcs/mirror/SL/6.1/x64_64/os /mnt/dst (same contents as http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/x86_64/os) 4) directory "Packages" is probably not needed 5) rsync -av .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-07-27-Everything-DVD2.iso /mnt/dst So you should have a /images directory on your usb drive. Copy the /images/updates.img and /images/product.img from .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso to /images directory of the usb drive. 6) cd /mnt/dst, setup "extlinux" (since the original uses isolinux). I use extlinux, mbr.bin, menu.c32 from extlinux-3.86. 6a) cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc, ./extlinux -i . (notice the dot) 6b) extlinux.conf is a copy of isolinux.cfg with "vesamenu.c32" replaced by "menu.c32" from extlinux-3.86 7) umount /dev/sdc, try to boot it. I am making an SL6 installer for use on machines located where internet access is physically impossible, so is there a solution or workaround? There is a solution to this but I need to know the answer to the above question. Ideally, I would like the installer run from the "Packages" directory rather than the DVD iso images. -Connie Sieh
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 03:39:16PM -0800, Christopher Tooley wrote: > > You might also be able to make a bootable USB stick by using the tool found > here: > https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ > > You can select any Live CD you wish I think. But I am not making a "Live CD". I am making an Installer disk. But perhaps the tool is misnamed. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
This is what I always used: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ Sent from my iPhone On 23.11.2011, at 02:22, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 03:39:16PM -0800, Christopher Tooley wrote: >> >> You might also be able to make a bootable USB stick by using the tool found >> here: >> https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ >> >> You can select any Live CD you wish I think. > > > But I am not making a "Live CD". I am making an Installer disk. But perhaps > the tool is misnamed. > > > -- > Konstantin Olchanski > Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! > Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca > Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 03:39:16PM -0800, Christopher Tooley wrote: You might also be able to make a bootable USB stick by using the tool found here: https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ You can select any Live CD you wish I think. But I am not making a "Live CD". I am making an Installer disk. But perhaps the tool is misnamed. It can make both. I have tried using it to make a "usb media" based on the Install DVD. It does not understand the /images/product.img and /images/updates.img so you still have to copy those by hand . I am working on a fix for that. Note that you used the "images" and other data from the "network" install version of SL. If you would have copied the files from the "DVD" then it would have worked as it would have copied the /images/product.img and /images/updates.img as part of your copy. -Connie Sieh > >
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On 11/23/2011 10:44 AM, Connie Sieh wrote: It can make both. I have tried using it to make a "usb media" based on the Install DVD. It does not understand the /images/product.img and /images/updates.img so you still have to copy those by hand . I am working on a fix for that. Connie, Just so you you are aware there are others out there who would be very happy if you could get the liveusb-creator to "just work" to make a USB version of the install DVD. I too have manually hacked this process before and eventually made it work but it seems every new release has some new fix required and having to mess around with it all the time gets tiring. Thanks for all your efforts to fix stuff like this! Jeff
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On 2011-11-22, at 5:22 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 03:39:16PM -0800, Christopher Tooley wrote: >> >> You might also be able to make a bootable USB stick by using the tool found >> here: >> https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ >> >> You can select any Live CD you wish I think. > > > But I am not making a "Live CD". I am making an Installer disk. But perhaps > the tool is misnamed. > > > -- > Konstantin Olchanski > Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! > Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca > Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada It stands to reason that it makes it treats all bootable CDs the same way? Though perhaps I make an assumption that is incorrect :) Christopher Tooley ctoo...@uvic.ca Systems, HEP/Astronomy UVic
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 05:46:09PM -0600, Connie Sieh wrote: > > > >5) rsync -av .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso > >.../SL-61-x86_64-2011-07-27-Everything-DVD2.iso /mnt/dst > > > > So you should have a /images directory on your usb drive. Copy the > /images/updates.img and /images/product.img from > .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso to /images directory > of the usb drive. (on-list reply) It worked - the USB installer no longer asks for a network connection. Success. -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
RE: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
Try adding the following dummy network to the Kickstart Network --activate --device eth0 ip=10.0.0.1 --netmask=255.255.255.0 This works for me when I have biosdevname=0 in the grub line (otherwise you will get weird device names other than ethX). -Original Message- From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of Connie Sieh Sent: 23 November, 2011 01:46 To: Konstantin Olchanski Cc: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov Subject: Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection? On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:09:15PM -0600, Connie Sieh wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >> >>> Hi, SL users - I have constructed an SL6 installer USB disk and it works >>> but after asking all the questions, right before starting to install >>> packages, >>> it stops and requests that there be an active network connection. The >>> installation >>> does not seem to proceed until the machine acquires an internet connection. >>> >>> Why is this? >> >> How did you make the USB image? > > > Same as any bootable USB disk. Partition the USB disk, mkfs, rsync bootable > filesystem contents, install boot loader. > > As follows: > > 1) Partition table looks like this: > > Disk /dev/sdc: 7996 MB, 7996440576 bytes > 224 heads, 56 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 12544 * 512 = 6422528 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > Disk identifier: 0x > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sdc1 * 11245 7808612 83 Linux > > NOTE: you need to repartition with -H224 -S56 (or whatever) because > I see some USB disks come with random heads and sectors settings. > > NOTE2: note "boot" flag > > 2) mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1 as normal, mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/dst > > 3) rsync -av /triumfcs/mirror/SL/6.1/x64_64/os /mnt/dst (same contents as > http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/x86_64/os) > > 4) directory "Packages" is probably not needed > > 5) rsync -av .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso > .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-07-27-Everything-DVD2.iso /mnt/dst > So you should have a /images directory on your usb drive. Copy the /images/updates.img and /images/product.img from .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso to /images directory of the usb drive. > 6) cd /mnt/dst, setup "extlinux" (since the original uses isolinux). I use > extlinux, mbr.bin, menu.c32 from extlinux-3.86. > > 6a) cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc, ./extlinux -i . (notice the dot) > 6b) extlinux.conf is a copy of isolinux.cfg with "vesamenu.c32" replaced by > "menu.c32" from extlinux-3.86 > > 7) umount /dev/sdc, try to boot it. > >>> I am making an SL6 installer for use on machines located where internet >>> access is physically impossible, so is there a solution or workaround? >>> >> >> There is a solution to this but I need to know the answer to the >> above question. > > > Ideally, I would like the installer run from the "Packages" directory rather > than the DVD iso images. > > > -Connie Sieh
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 04:39:08PM +, menny_hambur...@dell.com wrote: > > Try adding the following dummy network to the Kickstart > Network --activate --device eth0 ip=10.0.0.1 --netmask=255.255.255.0 > Yes, I think this would work, too. But it is good to have a vanilla kickstart-less installer working, as well. In reality, a kickstart file is required because of the useless default package selection offered by the installer. It asks if I want a "software development" ***OR*** a "web development" ***OR*** something else I have no idea what it is they mean, and they are mutually exclusive choices. Then, any choice I make forces me to spend the rest of my life installing missing packages. If, as closest choice, I select "software development", injury is added to the insult because the libc.a static library is missing. As they say "gimme a break!". Where is the good old button for "install everything there is"? K.O. > > This works for me when I have biosdevname=0 in the grub line (otherwise you > will get weird device names other than ethX). > > -Original Message- > From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov > [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of Connie > Sieh > Sent: 23 November, 2011 01:46 > To: Konstantin Olchanski > Cc: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov > Subject: Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection? > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:09:15PM -0600, Connie Sieh wrote: > >> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, SL users - I have constructed an SL6 installer USB disk and it works > >>> but after asking all the questions, right before starting to install > >>> packages, > >>> it stops and requests that there be an active network connection. The > >>> installation > >>> does not seem to proceed until the machine acquires an internet > >>> connection. > >>> > >>> Why is this? > >> > >> How did you make the USB image? > > > > > > Same as any bootable USB disk. Partition the USB disk, mkfs, rsync bootable > > filesystem contents, install boot loader. > > > > As follows: > > > > 1) Partition table looks like this: > > > > Disk /dev/sdc: 7996 MB, 7996440576 bytes > > 224 heads, 56 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders > > Units = cylinders of 12544 * 512 = 6422528 bytes > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > Disk identifier: 0x > > > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > > /dev/sdc1 * 11245 7808612 83 Linux > > > > NOTE: you need to repartition with -H224 -S56 (or whatever) because > > I see some USB disks come with random heads and sectors settings. > > > > NOTE2: note "boot" flag > > > > 2) mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1 as normal, mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/dst > > > > 3) rsync -av /triumfcs/mirror/SL/6.1/x64_64/os /mnt/dst (same contents as > > http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/x86_64/os) > > > > 4) directory "Packages" is probably not needed > > > > 5) rsync -av .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso > > .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-07-27-Everything-DVD2.iso /mnt/dst > > > > So you should have a /images directory on your usb drive. Copy the > /images/updates.img and /images/product.img from > .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso to /images directory of > the usb drive. > > > 6) cd /mnt/dst, setup "extlinux" (since the original uses isolinux). I use > > extlinux, mbr.bin, menu.c32 from extlinux-3.86. > > > > 6a) cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc, ./extlinux -i . (notice the dot) > > 6b) extlinux.conf is a copy of isolinux.cfg with "vesamenu.c32" replaced by > > "menu.c32" from extlinux-3.86 > > > > 7) umount /dev/sdc, try to boot it. > > > >>> I am making an SL6 installer for use on machines located where internet > >>> access is physically impossible, so is there a solution or workaround? > >>> > >> > >> There is a solution to this but I need to know the answer to the > >> above question. > > > > > > Ideally, I would like the installer run from the "Packages" directory rather > > than the DVD iso images. > > > > > > > > -Connie Sieh -- Konstantin Olchanski Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection?
On Nov 24, 2011, at 17:39 , wrote: > Try adding the following dummy network to the Kickstart > > Network --activate --device eth0 ip=10.0.0.1 --netmask=255.255.255.0 > > This works for me when I have biosdevname=0 in the grub line (otherwise you > will get weird device names other than ethX). Hmm, weren't those invented and pushed by a colleague of yours? ;-) NB I like them. A lot. They're predictable, and guaranteed not to change across reboots. They can cause problems with broken software though - like certain license managers for really expensive software that "know" that a system can only have network devices called ethX or vmnetX. - Stephan > > -Original Message- > From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov > [mailto:owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov] On Behalf Of Connie > Sieh > Sent: 23 November, 2011 01:46 > To: Konstantin Olchanski > Cc: SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@LISTSERV.fnal.gov > Subject: Re: SL6.1 installer requires internet connection? > > On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 04:09:15PM -0600, Connie Sieh wrote: >>> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, SL users - I have constructed an SL6 installer USB disk and it works >>>> but after asking all the questions, right before starting to install >>>> packages, >>>> it stops and requests that there be an active network connection. The >>>> installation >>>> does not seem to proceed until the machine acquires an internet connection. >>>> >>>> Why is this? >>> >>> How did you make the USB image? >> >> >> Same as any bootable USB disk. Partition the USB disk, mkfs, rsync bootable >> filesystem contents, install boot loader. >> >> As follows: >> >> 1) Partition table looks like this: >> >> Disk /dev/sdc: 7996 MB, 7996440576 bytes >> 224 heads, 56 sectors/track, 1245 cylinders >> Units = cylinders of 12544 * 512 = 6422528 bytes >> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> Disk identifier: 0x >> >> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >> /dev/sdc1 * 11245 7808612 83 Linux >> >> NOTE: you need to repartition with -H224 -S56 (or whatever) because >> I see some USB disks come with random heads and sectors settings. >> >> NOTE2: note "boot" flag >> >> 2) mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1 as normal, mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/dst >> >> 3) rsync -av /triumfcs/mirror/SL/6.1/x64_64/os /mnt/dst (same contents as >> http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/6.1/x86_64/os) >> >> 4) directory "Packages" is probably not needed >> >> 5) rsync -av .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso >> .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-07-27-Everything-DVD2.iso /mnt/dst >> > > So you should have a /images directory on your usb drive. Copy the > /images/updates.img and /images/product.img from > .../SL-61-x86_64-2011-11-09-Everything-DVD1.iso to /images directory of > the usb drive. > >> 6) cd /mnt/dst, setup "extlinux" (since the original uses isolinux). I use >> extlinux, mbr.bin, menu.c32 from extlinux-3.86. >> >> 6a) cat mbr.bin > /dev/sdc, ./extlinux -i . (notice the dot) >> 6b) extlinux.conf is a copy of isolinux.cfg with "vesamenu.c32" replaced by >> "menu.c32" from extlinux-3.86 >> >> 7) umount /dev/sdc, try to boot it. >> >>>> I am making an SL6 installer for use on machines located where internet >>>> access is physically impossible, so is there a solution or workaround? >>>> >>> >>> There is a solution to this but I need to know the answer to the >>> above question. >> >> >> Ideally, I would like the installer run from the "Packages" directory rather >> than the DVD iso images. >> >> >> > > -Connie Sieh -- Stephan Wiesand DESY - DV - Platanenallee 6 15738 Zeuthen, Germany
