Re: Terrible disk/network performance with kvm

2011-08-16 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 08/15/2011 10:51 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Orion Poplawskior...@cora.nwra.com  wrote:

I have a server that I recently migrated from CentOS 5.6 to SL6.1.  The host
install serves as a basic disk server and runs our nightly backups with
amanda.  We also have several virtual machines running on it, so of which
are mostly idle and others which can be quite busy.  Since making the move
I'm seeing the disk and network response/performance go to hell if I have
any non-idle VMs running.  One barometer - I have a raid10 rebuild running
at the moment.  With no VMs I can reach 200,000K/sec resync speed.  I'm
getting 131,000K with two idle VMs and some other basic activity.  If I
start a busy vm, it drops to a few hundred K/sec and all disk access is very
slow. Response to keystrokes in a network shell can be very slow as well.

As anyone else experienced problems like this?  I'm not seeing any error
messages on the host or VMs.


Have you rebuilt the virtual images? And does the underlying RAID, and
the disks, have 4096 byte blocks? If so, you will need to be quite
cautious in partitioning your disk images, because no installer in the
world can tell from scratch, inside a virtualized host, what the block
size is on the underlying hardware, and this can *kill* your
performance if it's mis-set.


Nope, everything is as before - I installed SL6 into the existing volume group 
and preserved the VMs logical volumes.  Thanks for the heads up though.



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Re: Terrible disk/network performance with kvm

2011-08-15 Thread Morten Stevens

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:05:17 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:

I have a server that I recently migrated from CentOS 5.6 to SL6.1.
The host install serves as a basic disk server and runs our nightly
backups with amanda.  We also have several virtual machines running 
on

it, so of which are mostly idle and others which can be quite busy.
Since making the move I'm seeing the disk and network
response/performance go to hell if I have any non-idle VMs running.
One barometer - I have a raid10 rebuild running at the moment.  With
no VMs I can reach 200,000K/sec resync speed.  I'm getting 131,000K
with two idle VMs and some other basic activity.  If I start a busy
vm, it drops to a few hundred K/sec and all disk access is very slow.
Response to keystrokes in a network shell can be very slow as well.

As anyone else experienced problems like this?  I'm not seeing any
error messages on the host or VMs.


Hi,

The default settings are bad.

Please tell us more about your settings.

Otherwise, I recommend the following points:

- controller: virtio
- kvm option: cache=none
- qcow2 disk format with metadata preallocation
- create your disk image with: qemu-img create -f qcow2 -o 
size=400,preallocation=metadata vdisk.img


Here's a good link to the topic:
http://www.ilsistemista.net/index.php/virtualization/11-kvm-io-slowness-on-rhel-6.html

Best regards,

Morten


Re: Terrible disk/network performance with kvm

2011-08-15 Thread Steven Haigh

On 16/08/2011 8:29 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

I'm using LVM volumes for the disk images, stored on my 8 disk raid10
array.


While this is not exactly related to KVM, the underlying principles will 
more than likely be the same for KVM...


http://www.crc.id.au/xen-performance-guide/

The key is not to layer too many things on top of each other or you'll 
run into issues with block boundaries etc.


It also shows a different way to install CentOS 5 in this case - however 
it should be easily adjustable to just about any EL OS.


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Re: Terrible disk/network performance with kvm

2011-08-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:
 I have a server that I recently migrated from CentOS 5.6 to SL6.1.  The host
 install serves as a basic disk server and runs our nightly backups with
 amanda.  We also have several virtual machines running on it, so of which
 are mostly idle and others which can be quite busy.  Since making the move
 I'm seeing the disk and network response/performance go to hell if I have
 any non-idle VMs running.  One barometer - I have a raid10 rebuild running
 at the moment.  With no VMs I can reach 200,000K/sec resync speed.  I'm
 getting 131,000K with two idle VMs and some other basic activity.  If I
 start a busy vm, it drops to a few hundred K/sec and all disk access is very
 slow. Response to keystrokes in a network shell can be very slow as well.

 As anyone else experienced problems like this?  I'm not seeing any error
 messages on the host or VMs.

Have you rebuilt the virtual images? And does the underlying RAID, and
the disks, have 4096 byte blocks? If so, you will need to be quite
cautious in partitioning your disk images, because no installer in the
world can tell from scratch, inside a virtualized host, what the block
size is on the underlying hardware, and this can *kill* your
performance if it's mis-set.