Re: vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm

2011-11-06 Thread Yasha Karant

On 11/06/2011 12:15 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:

On 11/04/2011 11:02 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

I am attempting to install vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm from
http://packages.atrpms.net/dist/el5/vlc/


Hi Yasha,

My solution was to run the Windows version of VLC under Wine.

The latest VLC's do run under El6.

HTH,
-T


A further reason to switch to EL 6.  I use the Codeweavers supported 
version of Wine, but have found that most current MS Win applications do 
not properly run under even the supported version.  I also find that 
Wine is cumbersome to debug when things do not work.


Re: vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm

2011-11-06 Thread Edgar Vargas
2011/11/5, Yasha Karant ykar...@csusb.edu:
 I am attempting to install vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm from
 http://packages.atrpms.net/dist/el5/vlc/

 There is a long list of dependencies missing, appended below.  Is there
 a way to specify to get just these packages from ATrpms without
 damaging the underlying production EL 5.7 system (e.g., replacing SL
 packages by other packages from ATrpms that then cause problems and
 instability with EL 5.7)?  Is there another add-on EL 5 RPM repository
 that requires fewer additions to stock EL 5.7 but still has a vlc 1.x
 version?

 I currently am using VLC 0.9.9a Grishenko.

 Yasha Karant

 Missing Dependency: liblua-5.1.so is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libcdio.so.10 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libxcb-shm.so.0 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libxcb.so.1 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libdirectfb-1.4.so.5 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libfusion-1.4.so.5 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libcdio.so.10(CDIO_10) is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libx264.so.115 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libX11-xcb.so.1 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libdvdread.so.4 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libva-0.32.0.2.so.1 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libiso9660.so.7 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libdirect-1.4.so.5 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libmpcdec.so.6 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libFLAC.so.8 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libjack.so.0 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: bitstream-vera-serif-fonts is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libgoom2.so.0 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libxcb-xv.so.0 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libva-x11-0.32.0.2.so.1 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libdvbpsi.so.7 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libxcb-keysyms.so.0 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)
 Missing Dependency: libprojectM.so.2.0.1 is needed by package
 vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386 (/vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386)


Hello, add repoforge (http://repoforge.org/use/) you can use smplayer,
is a font-end to mplayer, you can see many formats, e.g. .flv, mpg,
.avi and more..., try it

-- 
Edguit@r:
http://cybernautape.blogspot.com/


Re: vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm

2011-11-06 Thread Todd And Margo Chester

On 11/06/2011 12:39 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

On 11/06/2011 12:15 PM, Todd And Margo Chester wrote:

On 11/04/2011 11:02 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:

I am attempting to install vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm from
http://packages.atrpms.net/dist/el5/vlc/


Hi Yasha,

My solution was to run the Windows version of VLC under Wine.

The latest VLC's do run under El6.

HTH,
-T


A further reason to switch to EL 6. 


I have one server in SL 6.1 x64 and another one on Cent OS 5.7 x32.  I 
can not

wait to upgrade the second one to SL 6.x x64


I use the Codeweavers supported version of Wine, but have found that 
most current MS Win applications do not properly run under even the 
supported version.  I also find that Wine is cumbersome to debug 
when things do not work.
Wine is tragic code.  Little better than Alpha stage.  The developers 
are just overwhelmed with
bugs to fix.  And mostly they only fix bugs dealing with video games.  
But not always.


VLC for Windows does run well under wine, which is unusual.   VLC's 
update function even

works.  Go figure.

-T


Re: vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm

2011-11-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Yasha Karant ykar...@csusb.edu wrote:
 I am attempting to install vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm from
 http://packages.atrpms.net/dist/el5/vlc/

 There is a long list of dependencies missing, appended below.  Is there a
 way to specify to get just these packages from ATrpms without damaging the
 underlying production EL 5.7 system (e.g., replacing SL packages by other
 packages from ATrpms that then cause problems and instability with EL 5.7)?
  Is there another add-on EL 5 RPM repository that requires fewer additions
 to stock EL 5.7 but still has a vlc 1.x version?

First warning: vlc supports MPEG formats and playing DVD's. There are
various patents and reverse engineering legal issues which interfere
with open source and especially genuine freeware licensing or
deployment of such software. This is why such tools are not in our
favorite upstream vendor's codeline, nor will they be, unless such
cumbersome licensing can be resolved. Since VLC can typically deal
with DVD's, there's the whole libdvdcss sawsuit history that makes it
unavailable for our favorite upstream vendor's core distributions. So
it's *not* going to work fully without such non-Scientific-Linux
provided components, unless our friends at Scientific Linux were to
take that on. I don't see a point to that when atrpms and the other
repositories are doiing such a good job.

That said, if you're in a legal position to use these patented
software tools, and you suspect some of the dependencies are
extraneous, you can use mock to try building the SRPM in a clean SL
5.7 environment. I can send you, or the group, my /etc/mock files for
using a local repo for precisely this sort of work. It's much, much,
much more efficient to use mock from local repositories than
reaching out to external mirrors, and different configs to work with
JPackage or RPMforge repos as well. This keeps from cluttering your
working system with a lot of libraries and dependencies that may cause
other adventures.

But Yasha, VLC is a powerful and flexible multimedia player, It
*needs* access to those libraries in order to manage even half of the
different formats and encodings it manages.


Re: vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm

2011-11-05 Thread Yasha Karant

On 11/05/2011 11:57 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Yasha Karantykar...@csusb.edu  wrote:

I am attempting to install vlc-1.1.11-72.el5.i386.rpm from
http://packages.atrpms.net/dist/el5/vlc/

There is a long list of dependencies missing, appended below.  Is there a
way to specify to get just these packages from ATrpms without damaging the
underlying production EL 5.7 system (e.g., replacing SL packages by other
packages from ATrpms that then cause problems and instability with EL 5.7)?
  Is there another add-on EL 5 RPM repository that requires fewer additions
to stock EL 5.7 but still has a vlc 1.x version?


First warning: vlc supports MPEG formats and playing DVD's. There are
various patents and reverse engineering legal issues which interfere
with open source and especially genuine freeware licensing or
deployment of such software. This is why such tools are not in our
favorite upstream vendor's codeline, nor will they be, unless such
cumbersome licensing can be resolved. Since VLC can typically deal
with DVD's, there's the whole libdvdcss sawsuit history that makes it
unavailable for our favorite upstream vendor's core distributions. So
it's *not* going to work fully without such non-Scientific-Linux
provided components, unless our friends at Scientific Linux were to
take that on. I don't see a point to that when atrpms and the other
repositories are doiing such a good job.

That said, if you're in a legal position to use these patented
software tools, and you suspect some of the dependencies are
extraneous, you can use mock to try building the SRPM in a clean SL
5.7 environment. I can send you, or the group, my /etc/mock files for
using a local repo for precisely this sort of work. It's much, much,
much more efficient to use mock from local repositories than
reaching out to external mirrors, and different configs to work with
JPackage or RPMforge repos as well. This keeps from cluttering your
working system with a lot of libraries and dependencies that may cause
other adventures.

But Yasha, VLC is a powerful and flexible multimedia player, It
*needs* access to those libraries in order to manage even half of the
different formats and encodings it manages.


Thank you.  I am (well) aware of the power of VLC, particularly compared 
with a number of other offerings/applications, both open systems and 
proprietary for fee.  Although I would very much like to comment upon 
the issues you have raised concerning the reading and use of legally 
purchased and owned for-personal-use DVDs across region codes, as this 
list repeatedly has stated that it is strictly technology for 
technicians/technologists and devoid of any intellectual issues or 
discussions -- including societal issues as required under the ACM code 
of ethics, I shall not take the bait.


I would very much appreciate it if you would provide the tools, syntax, 
etc., for the needed mock build environment, as I presume that the 
resulting containment is safer than allowing ATrpms to have free reign 
(and free update requests) for a production end-user stable EL workstation.


Yasha Karant