SL 6.0 on Thinkpad T410s crash on login.
Hi, I tried to install SL 6.0 on my laptop which is Lenovo Thinkpad T410s. During the installation I just chose the 'Desktop' and did not add any more packages. When the installation finished, the system was crashing on the login interface. Here 'crashing' I mean freezing, the time is even stopped. I am wondering is there any suggestion to solve this problem? Thanks a lot. MVH /Sen -- Sen Li Ph.D. student Uppsala University
Re: SL 6.0 on Thinkpad T410s crash on login.
Hello Sen, not sure, but I think that the new Lenovo Thinkpad T410s is a laptop with the hybrid graphics (NVIDIA Optimus). It means lots of problems, because Nvidia has no intention to support it in Linux. As far as know, there is no workable solution yet, except disabling of the Nvidia card in BIOS. Good places to start: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=188184 http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6392405.html?sid=3aa6992b33ba45578a93e4d9a2b82087 Good Luck, I have given it up after three days, better to avoid hybrid graphics. BR Vaclav M. On 03/15/2011 04:50 PM, Sen Li wrote: Hi, I tried to install SL 6.0 on my laptop which is Lenovo Thinkpad T410s. During the installation I just chose the 'Desktop' and did not add any more packages. When the installation finished, the system was crashing on the login interface. Here 'crashing' I mean freezing, the time is even stopped. I am wondering is there any suggestion to solve this problem? Thanks a lot. MVH /Sen -- Sen Li Ph.D. student Uppsala University
Re: SL 6.0 on Thinkpad T410s crash on login.
Take a look here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki linux knowledge from around the net about Thinkpads accumulates here, a very nice site. And you can log in and add your own information to be archived for future people in your situation. The T410s has Intel graphics: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T410s and there's documentation of Fedora and Suse installs, with few graphics problems: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installation_instructions_for_the_ThinkPad_T410s My general advice though - usually you're far better off going with a Fedora or Ubuntu style distro on laptops, the enterprise-based distributions update too slowly on the hardware driver front for portable computing needs. An immediate suggestion for your problem - go in in rescue mode, edit /etc/inittab, and change the default run level from 5 to 3. That way you can get in on console and tweak stuff, issuing a startx command to bring up the desktop at will instead of being forced into a buggy state right away. -- Alec Habig, University of Minnesota Duluth Physics Dept. ha...@neutrino.d.umn.edu http://neutrino.d.umn.edu/~habig/
Re: SL 6.0 on Thinkpad T410s crash on login.
On 03/15/2011 07:47 PM, Alec T. Habig wrote: The T410s has Intel graphics Depends what version: http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/gbweb/LenovoPortal/en_GB/catalog.workflow:expandcategory?issBase=ProductsCategoryissCategory=/Notebooks/ThinkPad%20notebooks/T%20Series/T410 http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-t410s-nvidia-optimus.aspx http://www.zdnet.de/mobiles_arbeiten_notebook_laptop_thinkpad_t410s_14_zoeller_mit_hybrid_grafik_und_ssd_review-2151-41541606-1.htm I am afraid that the version T410s has hybrid graphics: Intel + NVIDIA NVS 3100m and as I wrote it is a source of troubles. Vaclav M.
Re: SL 6.0 on Thinkpad T410s crash on login.
On 15 March 2011 20:05, Vaclav Mocek little@email.cz wrote: On 03/15/2011 07:47 PM, Alec T. Habig wrote: The T410s has Intel graphics Depends what version: http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/gbweb/LenovoPortal/en_GB/catalog.workflow:expandcategory?issBase=ProductsCategoryissCategory=/Notebooks/ThinkPad%20notebooks/T%20Series/T410 http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-t410s-nvidia-optimus.aspx http://www.zdnet.de/mobiles_arbeiten_notebook_laptop_thinkpad_t410s_14_zoeller_mit_hybrid_grafik_und_ssd_review-2151-41541606-1.htm I am afraid that the version T410s has hybrid graphics: Intel + NVIDIA NVS 3100m and as I wrote it is a source of troubles. Have you checked to see if the issue will be resolved by using the ELRepo kmod-nvidia package [1] ? Alan. [1] http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-nvidia
Re: SL 6.0 on Thinkpad T410s crash on login.
Thanks for replying! I have switchable graphic card which is intel+nvidia 3100m. I have installed the 5.4 version on this laptop, it worked fine. I will try to disable nvidia in BIOS to see if it works and report back. otherwise, I will stick to 5.4 or 5.5. /Sen On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Alan Bartlett a...@elrepo.org wrote: On 15 March 2011 20:05, Vaclav Mocek little@email.cz wrote: On 03/15/2011 07:47 PM, Alec T. Habig wrote: The T410s has Intel graphics Depends what version: http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/gbweb/LenovoPortal/en_GB/catalog.workflow:expandcategory?issBase=ProductsCategoryissCategory=/Notebooks/ThinkPad%20notebooks/T%20Series/T410 http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-t410s-nvidia-optimus.aspx http://www.zdnet.de/mobiles_arbeiten_notebook_laptop_thinkpad_t410s_14_zoeller_mit_hybrid_grafik_und_ssd_review-2151-41541606-1.htm I am afraid that the version T410s has hybrid graphics: Intel + NVIDIA NVS 3100m and as I wrote it is a source of troubles. Have you checked to see if the issue will be resolved by using the ELRepo kmod-nvidia package [1] ? Alan. [1] http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-nvidia -- Sen Li Ph.D. student Uppsala University
Re: SL 6.0 on Thinkpad T410s crash on login.
Have you checked to see if the issue will be resolved by using the ELRepo kmod-nvidia package [1] ? Alan. [1] http://elrepo.org/tiki/kmod-nvidia Yes, I have tried it. Nvidia Optimus is not supported and never will be in Linux - official Nvidia's statement. The similar situation is with ATI's fglrx and their switchable HD5470, which is quite common now. So only opensource drivers with kernel 2.6.35 (SL6 is based on 2.6.32), with vga_switcheroo (http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a9ee8af344e3bd7dbd61e67037096cdf7f83289;). As a result you will have poor 3D acceleration, higher power consumption and no OpenCL or CUDA. The best solution is to switch the dedicated graphic card off in BIOS.
