Serious New Install Problem - 2

2010-01-14 Thread Larry Linder
We had the same problem on a test box micro atx board with dual core & 2 G Ram 
when we first installed it.   We were doing a few more test and now the 64 
bit system works and I can add users with the GUI and it gets done correctly 
and works.
There is a problem with a new rewrite for the login checking script.
I found it listed as in BugZilla.   
Will send you the bug report tomorrow

Don't plan to give up on SL is the long term answer to our OS issues.  -The 
only thing I will miss is the neat maintence scheme Open Suse has.

Larry Linder


Re: Serious New Install problem

2010-01-14 Thread Tim Edwards
On 13/01/10 21:09, Troy Dawson wrote:

>>
>> What we are planning to do till we can get this sorted out is to
>> install Open Suse 9.3   as 10.3  screwed up with LVM trash.
>>
>> Larry Linder

If you do go down the Opensuse route the current version is 11.2 and it
works quite nicely, even presents you the option of partitioned-based
disk layout or LVM-based in the installer (you can choose to completely
customise it too). 9.3 was end-of-life nearly 2.5 years ago and 10.3 is
also discontinued. http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Linux_Lifetime

Good luck

Tim Edwards


Re: Serious New Install problem

2010-01-13 Thread Troy Dawson

Have you tried the command "useradd" or "adduser", using the option -d

Here is an example

  useradd -d /mybigdisk/user1 user1

It will put that users home area in that area.
It will also copy everything over and setup permissions correctly.

As for the /home directory being there even though you didn't tell it to 
 make one, that is one of the basic directories that get's created 
every time you do an install.  It's been that way for at least 10 years 
that I know of.


Troy

Larry Linder wrote:

There is a problem with installing new users in a directory other than /home
Most of us work from our home directory some use a meg and some use many G.

In our scheme to isolate users from OS's we have a number of large disk set up 
as  engr1, engr2, engrnn.   A number of users have their login directory in 
something other than /home.


Red Hat some how got this messed up.

If you install it, login as root, make a new user account that is like the old 
account.   /engr10/users/llinder.  you will not be able to login as linder.
Not only that if you use the new user GUI and remove a user it will remove the 
users directory that it couldn't find for a login 


The message you get is totally bogus.

" Your home directory is listed as 
'/engr/users/llinder'  
but it does not appear to exist.  Do you want to 
login with /root directory?

It unlikely anything will work . . .
unless you use a failsafe
no  yes

"
To prove the point I added a new user "bogus" and it a / home/bogus  directory 
was created.  Interesting because there was never a /home directory set up 
during an install.  So where is this magic /home directory.


It looks like to use SL you have to assign a Tera byte drives to /home and let 
the garbage pile up, Without much hope of doing an intelligent back up


What we are planning to do till we can get this sorted out is to install Open 
Suse 9.3   as 10.3  screwed up with LVM trash.


Larry Linder



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Re: Serious New Install problem

2010-01-13 Thread Robert E. Blair

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Is the shared volume mounted squashroot (i.e. does root actually have
read/write access)?

Larry Linder wrote:
| There is a problem with installing new users in a directory other than
/home
| Most of us work from our home directory some use a meg and some use
many G.
|
| In our scheme to isolate users from OS's we have a number of large
disk set up
| as  engr1, engr2, engrnn.   A number of users have their login
directory in
| something other than /home.
|
| Red Hat some how got this messed up.
|
| If you install it, login as root, make a new user account that is like
the old
| account.   /engr10/users/llinder.  you will not be able to login as
linder.
| Not only that if you use the new user GUI and remove a user it will
remove the
| users directory that it couldn't find for a login 
|
| The message you get is totally bogus.
|
| " Your home directory is listed as
| '/engr/users/llinder'
| but it does not appear to exist.  Do you want to
| login with /root directory?
| It unlikely anything will work . . .
| unless you use a failsafe
|   no  yes
|
| "
| To prove the point I added a new user "bogus" and it a / home/bogus
directory
| was created.  Interesting because there was never a /home directory
set up
| during an install.  So where is this magic /home directory.
|
| It looks like to use SL you have to assign a Tera byte drives to /home
and let
| the garbage pile up, Without much hope of doing an intelligent back up
|
| What we are planning to do till we can get this sorted out is to
install Open
| Suse 9.3   as 10.3  screwed up with LVM trash.
|
| Larry Linder

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Re: Serious New Install problem

2010-01-13 Thread Connie Sieh

Larry,

Is selinux turned on?  Are there any messages in 
/var/log/audit/audit.log concerning these home areas.


How did you add the user?  Did you do it by hand or did you use adduser or 
via some other method?


-Connie Sieh

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010, 
Larry Linder wrote:



There is a problem with installing new users in a directory other than /home
Most of us work from our home directory some use a meg and some use many G.

In our scheme to isolate users from OS's we have a number of large disk set up
as  engr1, engr2, engrnn.   A number of users have their login directory in
something other than /home.

Red Hat some how got this messed up.

If you install it, login as root, make a new user account that is like the old
account.   /engr10/users/llinder.  you will not be able to login as linder.
Not only that if you use the new user GUI and remove a user it will remove the
users directory that it couldn't find for a login 

The message you get is totally bogus.

" Your home directory is listed as
'/engr/users/llinder'
but it does not appear to exist.  Do you want to
login with /root directory?
It unlikely anything will work . . .
unless you use a failsafe
no  yes

"
To prove the point I added a new user "bogus" and it a / home/bogus  directory
was created.  Interesting because there was never a /home directory set up
during an install.  So where is this magic /home directory.

It looks like to use SL you have to assign a Tera byte drives to /home and let
the garbage pile up, Without much hope of doing an intelligent back up

What we are planning to do till we can get this sorted out is to install Open
Suse 9.3   as 10.3  screwed up with LVM trash.

Larry Linder



Serious New Install problem

2010-01-13 Thread Larry Linder
There is a problem with installing new users in a directory other than /home
Most of us work from our home directory some use a meg and some use many G.

In our scheme to isolate users from OS's we have a number of large disk set up 
as  engr1, engr2, engrnn.   A number of users have their login directory in 
something other than /home.

Red Hat some how got this messed up.

If you install it, login as root, make a new user account that is like the old 
account.   /engr10/users/llinder.  you will not be able to login as linder.
Not only that if you use the new user GUI and remove a user it will remove the 
users directory that it couldn't find for a login 

The message you get is totally bogus.

" Your home directory is listed as 
'/engr/users/llinder'  
but it does not appear to exist.  Do you want to 
login with /root directory?
It unlikely anything will work . . .
unless you use a failsafe
no  yes

"
To prove the point I added a new user "bogus" and it a / home/bogus  directory 
was created.  Interesting because there was never a /home directory set up 
during an install.  So where is this magic /home directory.

It looks like to use SL you have to assign a Tera byte drives to /home and let 
the garbage pile up, Without much hope of doing an intelligent back up

What we are planning to do till we can get this sorted out is to install Open 
Suse 9.3   as 10.3  screwed up with LVM trash.

Larry Linder