Yum install; subversion on x86_64
Hello all, It's me again with an annoying question. When I try to install subversion on a 64bit machine with dag and sl-security repos enabled I get these sorts of results: .. [r...@machine yum.repos.d]# uname -rm 2.6.18-128.1.1.el5 x86_64 [r...@machine yum.repos.d]# yum install subversion Loaded plugins: kernel-module sl-base | 1.1 kB 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 905 kB 00:00 sl-base3409/3409 dag | 1.1 kB 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 3.4 MB 00:01 dag9353/9353 sl-security | 951 B 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 234 kB 00:00 sl-security693/693 Excluding Packages in global exclude list Finished Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package subversion.x86_64 0:1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf set to be updated ---> Package subversion.i386 0:1.4.2-4.el5_3.1 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Beginning Kernel Module Plugin Finished Kernel Module Plugin Dependencies Resolved === Package ArchVersion RepositorySize === Installing: subversion x86_64 1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf dag 6.8 M subversion i3861.4.2-4.el5_3.1 sl-security 2.3 M Transaction Summary === Install 2 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 9.1 M Is this ok [y/N]: n Exiting on user Command Complete! .. Is there a reason why yum wants to install the i386 version of subversion on an x86_64 machine? Have I misconfigured something somewhere? contents of sl-security.repo: .. [sl-security] name=SL 5 security updates baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security #mirrorlist=ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/mirrorlist/sl-security-53.txt enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 # To use priorities you must have yum-priorities installed priority=10 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl5 file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-csieh file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-dawson file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-jpolok file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-cern file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 .. contents of dag.repo: .. [dag] name=DAG rpms baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/extra/dag/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag/ http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/extra/dag/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag/ ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/extra/dag/redhat/el5/en/$basearch/dag/ enabled=1 # To use priorities you must have yum-priorities installed priority=30 .. Please let me know if you need more information. I can selectively install the x86_64 package by: yum install subversion.x86_64 so it's OK in the end, but it seems kind of weird to me to install an i386 package in x86_64. The same thing happens with xdelta too, but the i386 package is from sl-base instead of sl-security. Thanks, ~Chris
Re: Yum install; subversion on x86_64
Hi Chris, This is a feature of yum in RHEL5 and SL5. I just double checked to see if this was fixed with 5.4. Nope. Why does it do that? Because at some point yum and/or RedHat decided that would be the thing to do so developers would quit whining about not having their 32 bit libraries. (Don't roll your eyes too much. There are plenty of developers/users here on the scientific-linux-users list that have complained because their favorite 32 bit library wasn't installed by default on a 64 bit machine) I have checked Fedora 11, and it only installs the arch that you are running, and it is almost the same version of yum that is in RHEL 5.4, so I'm thinking it is a feature put in by RedHat. Could I track down and change yum so that it doesn't do this? Yes. Am I going to do it? No. Why? Because that would change the functionality of yum on SL5. This could unexpected results. The one expected result that I don't want is that when someone does an x86_64 install, they would get different packages after the change than before the change. How to really fix it? First complain upstream to RedHat. I do know that this was brought up to RedHat at the Summit when discussing RHEL 6. If this feature makes it into the main RHEL, it will make it into SL. If it is possible for there to be an easy fix so that we could make a SL_ rpm, that would be good. But I personally will not dig through yum to find that fix, I just have too much other stuff to do. But if someone has an easy fix, I wouldn't mind wrapping it into an SL_ rpm. Thanks Troy Chris Tooley wrote: Hello all, It's me again with an annoying question. When I try to install subversion on a 64bit machine with dag and sl-security repos enabled I get these sorts of results: .. [r...@machine yum.repos.d]# uname -rm 2.6.18-128.1.1.el5 x86_64 [r...@machine yum.repos.d]# yum install subversion Loaded plugins: kernel-module sl-base | 1.1 kB 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 905 kB 00:00 sl-base3409/3409 dag | 1.1 kB 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 3.4 MB 00:01 dag9353/9353 sl-security | 951 B 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 234 kB 00:00 sl-security693/693 Excluding Packages in global exclude list Finished Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package subversion.x86_64 0:1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf set to be updated ---> Package subversion.i386 0:1.4.2-4.el5_3.1 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Beginning Kernel Module Plugin Finished Kernel Module Plugin Dependencies Resolved === Package ArchVersion RepositorySize === Installing: subversion x86_64 1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf dag 6.8 M subversion i3861.4.2-4.el5_3.1 sl-security 2.3 M Transaction Summary === Install 2 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 9.1 M Is this ok [y/N]: n Exiting on user Command Complete! .. Is there a reason why yum wants to install the i386 version of subversion on an x86_64 machine? Have I misconfigured something somewhere? contents of sl-security.repo: .. [sl-security] name=SL 5 security updates baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security #mirrorlist=ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/mirrorlist/sl-security-53.txt enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 # To use priorities you must have yum-priorities installed priority=10 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl5 file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-csieh file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-dawson file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-jpolok file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-cern file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 .. contents of dag.repo: ...
Re: Yum install; subversion on x86_64
Troy Dawson wrote: > Hi Chris, > This is a feature of yum in RHEL5 and SL5. > I just double checked to see if this was fixed with 5.4. Nope. > Why does it do that? > Because at some point yum and/or RedHat decided that would be the thing > to do so developers would quit whining about not having their 32 bit > libraries. > (Don't roll your eyes too much. There are plenty of developers/users > here on the scientific-linux-users list that have complained because > their favorite 32 bit library wasn't installed by default on a 64 bit > machine) > I have checked Fedora 11, and it only installs the arch that you are > running, and it is almost the same version of yum that is in RHEL 5.4, > so I'm thinking it is a feature put in by RedHat. > > Could I track down and change yum so that it doesn't do this? Yes. > Am I going to do it? No. > Why? Because that would change the functionality of yum on SL5. This > could unexpected results. The one expected result that I don't want is > that when someone does an x86_64 install, they would get different > packages after the change than before the change. > > How to really fix it? > First complain upstream to RedHat. I do know that this was brought up > to RedHat at the Summit when discussing RHEL 6. If this feature makes > it into the main RHEL, it will make it into SL. > If it is possible for there to be an easy fix so that we could make a > SL_ rpm, that would be good. But I personally will not dig through yum > to find that fix, I just have too much other stuff to do. But if > someone has an easy fix, I wouldn't mind wrapping it into an SL_ rpm. > > Thanks > Troy I had the exact same problem a few days ago, and used the same workaround as Chris. I understand SL not deviating from upstream but I still don't understand upstream's reasoning. If I install subversion.x86_64 I have a working subversion, including all the libs. If a developer decides he wants the 32-bit libs then I could just do yum install subversion.i386, why does it need to install 32-bit by default? And do you know, will this change be rolled out to other packages so that whenever we install something in future it will install both 32- and 64-bit versions of it? Regards Tim Edwards
Re: Yum install; subversion on x86_64
Hi, Tim Edwards wrote: Troy Dawson wrote: Hi Chris, This is a feature of yum in RHEL5 and SL5. The problem already starts with anaconda installing all sorts of 32bit packages in addition to the 64 bit ones. If you are certain that you want no 32bit packages at all, you can # yum remove *.i386 # yum remove *.i686 Once you have done that you can configure yum to ignore all .i386 and .i686 packages - BUT: as soon as you install a 32bit package, and you still tell yum to ignore 32bit packages, you can be sure that it won't take long until your yum updates fail. Just been there, and was really confused why it failed ;) Matthias
Re: Yum install; subversion on x86_64
Well as long as it's not something I've misconfigured I'm happy :) Thanks for your reply. -Chris Troy Dawson wrote: Hi Chris, This is a feature of yum in RHEL5 and SL5. I just double checked to see if this was fixed with 5.4. Nope. Why does it do that? Because at some point yum and/or RedHat decided that would be the thing to do so developers would quit whining about not having their 32 bit libraries. (Don't roll your eyes too much. There are plenty of developers/users here on the scientific-linux-users list that have complained because their favorite 32 bit library wasn't installed by default on a 64 bit machine) I have checked Fedora 11, and it only installs the arch that you are running, and it is almost the same version of yum that is in RHEL 5.4, so I'm thinking it is a feature put in by RedHat. Could I track down and change yum so that it doesn't do this? Yes. Am I going to do it? No. Why? Because that would change the functionality of yum on SL5. This could unexpected results. The one expected result that I don't want is that when someone does an x86_64 install, they would get different packages after the change than before the change. How to really fix it? First complain upstream to RedHat. I do know that this was brought up to RedHat at the Summit when discussing RHEL 6. If this feature makes it into the main RHEL, it will make it into SL. If it is possible for there to be an easy fix so that we could make a SL_ rpm, that would be good. But I personally will not dig through yum to find that fix, I just have too much other stuff to do. But if someone has an easy fix, I wouldn't mind wrapping it into an SL_ rpm. Thanks Troy Chris Tooley wrote: Hello all, It's me again with an annoying question. When I try to install subversion on a 64bit machine with dag and sl-security repos enabled I get these sorts of results: .. [r...@machine yum.repos.d]# uname -rm 2.6.18-128.1.1.el5 x86_64 [r...@machine yum.repos.d]# yum install subversion Loaded plugins: kernel-module sl-base | 1.1 kB 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 905 kB 00:00 sl-base3409/3409 dag | 1.1 kB 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 3.4 MB 00:01 dag9353/9353 sl-security | 951 B 00:00 primary.xml.gz | 234 kB 00:00 sl-security693/693 Excluding Packages in global exclude list Finished Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package subversion.x86_64 0:1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf set to be updated ---> Package subversion.i386 0:1.4.2-4.el5_3.1 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Beginning Kernel Module Plugin Finished Kernel Module Plugin Dependencies Resolved === Package ArchVersion RepositorySize === Installing: subversion x86_64 1.6.5-0.1.el5.rf dag 6.8 M subversion i3861.4.2-4.el5_3.1 sl-security 2.3 M Transaction Summary === Install 2 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 9.1 M Is this ok [y/N]: n Exiting on user Command Complete! .. Is there a reason why yum wants to install the i386 version of subversion on an x86_64 machine? Have I misconfigured something somewhere? contents of sl-security.repo: .. [sl-security] name=SL 5 security updates baseurl=http://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security http://ftp1.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/53/$basearch/updates/security #mirrorlist=ftp://ftp.scientificlinux.org/linux/scientific/mirrorlist/sl-security-53.txt enabled=1 gpgcheck=0 # To use priorities you must have yum-priorities installed priority=10 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-sl5 file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-csieh file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-dawson file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-jpolok file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-cern file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-5 .
Re: Yum install; subversion on x86_64
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:45:27 -0500, Troy Dawson wrote: >Could I track down and change yum so that it doesn't do this? Yes. >Am I going to do it? No. >Why? Because that would change the functionality of yum on SL5. This >could unexpected results. The one expected result that I don't want is >that when someone does an x86_64 install, they would get different >packages after the change than before the change. Hi, I was annoyed by this as well, but there is a configuration option to cha nge it. No need to change yum. Just set 'multilib_policy=best' in the yum .conf to not install 32 bit versions by default. Not suggesting this should be the default, though.
