Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]

2006-08-11 Thread Astromancer
It's possible, guys...saw too many fat bodies in boot camp turn into what the 
girls call hunks and we called Marines in no time flat...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Yeah, lots of people--such as Tom Joyner--find it 
hard to believe she dropped 60 pounds *and* got that incredibly cut in such a 
short time. It's only been maybe two months at most. Even if she did, it's not 
healthy at all. I know that she's fallen out many times in the past due to 
exhaustion and poor eating habits. And I know for a fact her workout regimes 
aren't the best. They're the kind only someone with lots of money should 
attempt, as you need dedicated nutritionists, cooks, personal trainers, 
hell--massage therapists! A whole team of people to make sure you don't kill 
yourself. No matter what anyone says, losing weight and getting fit is a slow 
process, and losing about 2.5 pounds a week is a realistic and practical 
standard. Any more than that--which is the Hollywood way--can be dangerous. 

One of the things that bothers me in modern society is the obssession with 
being too slim and impossiby fit. Now Jackson looks good--and thank God she has 
a Black butt that won't go away!--but so many actresses and entertainers are 
working themselves out to look like emaciated skeletons. I hate the message 
that sends to young girls. Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who 
still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black 
women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, 
Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays 
you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell 
her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so 
pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is 
growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In 
the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude.
 Seriously, I
think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too 
far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy 
into the hype.

They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of 
the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle Lockhart 

science fiction at its best.

On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
Minor) wrote:

 Original Message 
Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400
From: C V 
Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she 
certainly
is flat.but what do i know? LOL

Camille [ain't mad at her either!]
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Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? 
PG=homeSEC=news

Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET)

NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some 
skin. The
40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears 
on the
cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace 
made of
large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts.

Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she
tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits.

Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier,
briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime 
show.

In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 
15,
Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and 
the
bra-ha-ha - is history.

It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. 
I'm
onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted 
to - and
it's done, she says.

Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine 
Dupri,
for giving her self-esteem a little boost.

I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I 
am than
older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things
were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and 
who made
less.

She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match.

When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm
looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never 
felt with
anybody else.

Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri 
produced a
few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry 
Lewis
pitched in on the disc as well.

The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role 
in the
upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on 
because of
her new record.

When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she 
says: Win
an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my 
family
says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both...

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[scifinoir2] MTV draws fire for cartoon of black women on leash

2006-08-11 Thread Said Kakese Dibinga
MTV draws fire for cartoon of black women on leash 
   
  By Steve GormanWed Aug 9, 3:14 PM ET 
   
  A new MTV cartoon depicting black women squatting on all fours tethered to 
leashes and defecating on the floor is drawing fire from several prominent 
African Americans who call the episode degrading.
   
  Critics say MTV showed especially poor judgment because the weekly animated 
program, Where My Dogs At?, appeals to young teens and airs at an hour, 12:30 
p.m. on Saturdays, when many children are watching television.
   
  The show just completed its initial eight-episode run on MTV2, a spin-off 
channel of the music video institution that recently celebrated its 25th 
anniversary.
   
  The half-hour show lampoons real-life celebrities and pop culture as seen 
through the eyes of two wise-cracking stray dogs -- Woofie and Buddy -- voiced 
by comedians Tracy Morgan and Jeffrey Ross, respectively.
   
  A statement released this week by the Viacom Inc.-owned cable network, whose 
president, Christina Norman, is black, defended the episode in question as 
social satire.
   
  In it, a look-alike of rap star Snoop Dogg strolls into a pet shop with two 
bikini-clad black women on leashes. They hunch over on all fours and scratch 
themselves as he orders one of them to hand me my latte. At the end of the 
segment, the Snoopathon Dogg Esquire character dons a rubber glove to clean up 
excrement left on the floor by one of the women.
   
  MTV said the Woofie Loves Snoop episode, which first aired on July 1, was 
in fact a parody of an actual appearance Snoop Dogg made where he was 
accompanied by two women wearing neck collars and chains.
   
  We certainly do not condone Snoop's actions and the goal was to take aim at 
that incident for its insensitivity and outrageousness, the statement said.
   
  But several prominent blacks, including New York Daily News columnist Stanley 
Crouch, condemned the segment as misogynist, racist and crude, and they 
questioned the sincerity of MTV's contention that it was satirizing the 
outlandish behavior of a real-life rapper.
   
  Where's the context in that? said Lisa Fager, president and co-founder of 
the Industry Ears, a consortium of broadcast industry professionals who monitor 
and critique media content.
   
  Crouch suggested in a column this week that the Where My Dogs At? segment 
was an extension of dehumanizing images contained in gangsta rap videos aired 
by MTV and projected around the world as 'real' black culture.
   
  Payne Brown, a high-ranking executive at cable giant Comcast Corp., said he 
lodged a personal complaint in an e-mail to Norman but found her response, 
essentially the same as the network's press statement, to be unsatisfying.
   
  Clearly, it goes far beyond the pale of anything that remotely could be 
considered acceptable, he said of the episode, stressing that he was not 
speaking for Comcast. This is just me as an African-American father, husband 
and son.
   
  The first season of the show, which carries a rating advising that parents 
may find its material unsuitable for children under age 14, drew a cumulative 
audience of 17.2 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research.
   
  Reuters/VNU 
   
Copyright © 2006 Reuters Limited.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Pratt
Just send me a draft!

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  JUst gave me an idea for an 
erotic story...Hush Martin! gotta make some change some how!

g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. I work in the Boston office (HQ) 
of an advertising agency ( 
www.digitas.com ) and the young 20- and 30-somethings females in the 
office (overwhelmingly Caucasian, single, blonde, and from 
Connecticut) wear just about anything. As a hetero and married male, 
it makes for interesting eye candy. Besides thongs, the latest trend 
is the see-thru blouses with netting that stop above the belly 
button. This bare midrift or de-clothed zone (DCZ) from above the 
belly button to the top of the low-rider jeans makes it quite easy 
to see thong straps when my coworkers walk around the floor or sit 
in a chair at a meeting. The tattoos are usually in the small of the 
back waist level.

George J.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I, for one will be glad when the low rider jean fad is over.
 Don't get me wrong, it is a good look, but only on a small
 minority of the population. That style with its accompanying
 thong can take a good looking, relatively in shape woman and
 make her look like a cow. Meanwhile, she prancing around like
 she looks good. I've had to avert my eye on numerous occasions
 to hide my amusement and sometimes discuss. 
 
 George, don't you work on a government office?
 
 Tracey
 
 g123curious wrote:
  This product wouldn't be necessary if women who shouldn't wear
 low-rider jeans didn't wear them. (smile) I see waay too many
 thong straps while at work. It's hard to take a person seriously
 when their thong strap and tatoos are hanging out there for the
 world to see.
 
  George
  Captain
  USS McNair
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
  Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote:
  
  OK guys, i swear this is scifi. i'm sorry, I had to send it. 
  
  Buttless 
  
  underwear!?!?!
 
  C V wrote:
  
  Did you all know there was such a thing as 'backless 
underwear'? 
  
  I
  
  swear...I'm getting old and have seen it all.
  AND they're having a sale now! where the heck have i been?
 
  http://www.backlesslingerie.com/?
cid=1134sid=4029pid=0mid=494
 
  Camille [perhaps its 1/2 off??] LOL

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Pratt
I was thinking either sex. I've gotten one wedgie in my life, and it's given me 
a permanent fear of having anything up the crack of my a$$. Imagine walking 
around daily with dental floss up your butt...

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Of course you're talking about 
the male observers, right? Think about it before you answer...lol

Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I can make a case for the 
existence of the thong being right out of science fiction. I mean, look at one! 
How can any lifeform put one on and function for any length of time without 
being in mind-numbing pain?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lessee, let's take a look at that heading...yep, I 
just checked and the group title says SciFiNoir--dedicated to all things 
science fiction. So why then has my breathing quickened, and I'm wiping the 
sweat from my forehead with a cold towel? :)

-- Original message -- 
From: g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Nope. I work in the Boston office (HQ) of an advertising agency ( 
www.digitas.com ) and the young 20- and 30-somethings females in the 
office (overwhelmingly Caucasian, single, blonde, and from 
Connecticut) wear just about anything. As a hetero and married male, 
it makes for interesting eye candy. Besides thongs, the latest trend 
is the see-thru blouses with netting that stop above the belly 
button. This bare midrift or de-clothed zone (DCZ) from above the 
belly button to the top of the low-rider jeans makes it quite easy 
to see thong straps when my coworkers walk around the floor or sit 
in a chair at a meeting. The tattoos are usually in the small of the 
back waist level.

George J.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I, for one will be glad when the low rider jean fad is over.
 Don't get me wrong, it is a good look, but only on a small
 minority of the population. That style with its accompanying
 thong can take a good looking, relatively in shape woman and
 make her look like a cow. Meanwhile, she prancing around like
 she looks good. I've had to avert my eye on numerous occasions
 to hide my amusement and sometimes discuss. 
 
 George, don't you work on a government office?
 
 Tracey
 
 g123curious wrote:
  This product wouldn't be necessary if women who shouldn't wear
 low-rider jeans didn't wear them. (smile) I see waay too many
 thong straps while at work. It's hard to take a person seriously
 when their thong strap and tatoos are hanging out there for the
 world to see.
 
  George
  Captain
  USS McNair
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
  Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote:
  
  OK guys, i swear this is scifi. i'm sorry, I had to send it. 
  
  Buttless 
  
  underwear!?!?!
 
  C V wrote:
  
  Did you all know there was such a thing as 'backless 
underwear'? 
  
  I
  
  swear...I'm getting old and have seen it all.
  AND they're having a sale now! where the heck have i been?
 
  http://www.backlesslingerie.com/?
cid=1134sid=4029pid=0mid=494
 
  Camille [perhaps its 1/2 off??] LOL

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?

2006-08-11 Thread Daryle Lockhart
Thanks for that visual. Thanks so much.

I  think we're over intellectualizing the thong. Yes, I  know I just   
started a debate about Bionic characters in a TV show,  but I'm  
saying. I think the thong is more of decoration than an actual  
garment. I think people who are looking to  wear/observe practical  
thongs are missing the point.  It's not supposed to be ON that  long,  
as I saw it, or it's just  supposed to be covering  for legal reasons.

On Aug 11, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Martin Pratt wrote:

I was thinking either sex. I've gotten one wedgie in my life, and  
it's given me a permanent fear of having anything up the crack of my a 
$$. Imagine walking around daily with dental floss up your butt...

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[scifinoir2] Fwd: From SCIFI WIRE: SCI FI Gets Who Season Two

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Pratt
FYI, a friend just passed me this. Well, that's obvious...

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?

2006-08-11 Thread Martin Pratt
Profuse apologies. And I'm the person who always calls people out for too much 
information. And I agree with your point entirely. It's gone past decorative 
wear and crawled into the fabric of the social conciousness.

Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Thanks for that visual. 
Thanks so much.

I think we're over intellectualizing the thong. Yes, I know I just 
started a debate about Bionic characters in a TV show, but I'm 
saying. I think the thong is more of decoration than an actual 
garment. I think people who are looking to wear/observe practical 
thongs are missing the point. It's not supposed to be ON that long, 
as I saw it, or it's just supposed to be covering for legal reasons.

On Aug 11, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Martin Pratt wrote:

I was thinking either sex. I've gotten one wedgie in my life, and 
it's given me a permanent fear of having anything up the crack of my a 
$$. Imagine walking around daily with dental floss up your butt...

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RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]

2006-08-11 Thread Keith Johnson
True, but like I said, if so, it's not a healthy regime that one would
recommend for most people. You need some serious support and caretaking for
a weight loss like that, especially if coupled with such an incredible
increase in muscle tone. Those are two different aspects of physical
training, either one of which would task average people in so short a time.
But hey, when you have that kind of dough and your success is (largely)
based on your looks, of course it's possible!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Friday, 11 August, 2006 02:37
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]



It's possible, guys...saw too many fat bodies in boot camp turn into what
the girls call hunks and we called Marines in no time flat...

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Yeah,
lots of people--such as Tom Joyner--find it hard to believe she dropped 60
pounds *and* got that incredibly cut in such a short time. It's only been
maybe two months at most. Even if she did, it's not healthy at all. I know
that she's fallen out many times in the past due to exhaustion and poor
eating habits. And I know for a fact her workout regimes aren't the best.
They're the kind only someone with lots of money should attempt, as you need
dedicated nutritionists, cooks, personal trainers, hell--massage therapists!
A whole team of people to make sure you don't kill yourself. No matter what
anyone says, losing weight and getting fit is a slow process, and losing
about 2.5 pounds a week is a realistic and practical standard. Any more than
that--which is the Hollywood way--can be dangerous. 

One of the things that bothers me in modern society is the obssession with
being too slim and impossiby fit. Now Jackson looks good--and thank God she
has a Black butt that won't go away!--but so many actresses and entertainers
are working themselves out to look like emaciated skeletons. I hate the
message that sends to young girls. Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy
left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for
non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren,
Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek
the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape,
someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's
dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I
hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic
expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a
healthier attitude.
Seriously, I
think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go
too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters
buy into the hype.

They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days
of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle Lockhart 

science fiction at its best.

On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
Minor) wrote:

 Original Message 
Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400
From: C V 
Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
EASE.LSOFT.COM

all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she 
certainly
is flat.but what do i know? LOL

Camille [ain't mad at her either!]
=
Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe
http://apnews1. http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html?
iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? 
PG=homeSEC=news

Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET)

NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some 
skin. The
40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears 
on the
cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace 
made of
large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts.

Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she
tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits.

Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier,
briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime 
show.

In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 
15,
Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and 
the
bra-ha-ha - is history.

It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. 
I'm
onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted 
to - and
it's done, she says.

Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine 
Dupri,
for giving her self-esteem a little boost.

I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I 
am than
older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things
were less