Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
It's possible, guys...saw too many fat bodies in boot camp turn into what the girls call hunks and we called Marines in no time flat... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, lots of people--such as Tom Joyner--find it hard to believe she dropped 60 pounds *and* got that incredibly cut in such a short time. It's only been maybe two months at most. Even if she did, it's not healthy at all. I know that she's fallen out many times in the past due to exhaustion and poor eating habits. And I know for a fact her workout regimes aren't the best. They're the kind only someone with lots of money should attempt, as you need dedicated nutritionists, cooks, personal trainers, hell--massage therapists! A whole team of people to make sure you don't kill yourself. No matter what anyone says, losing weight and getting fit is a slow process, and losing about 2.5 pounds a week is a realistic and practical standard. Any more than that--which is the Hollywood way--can be dangerous. One of the things that bothers me in modern society is the obssession with being too slim and impossiby fit. Now Jackson looks good--and thank God she has a Black butt that won't go away!--but so many actresses and entertainers are working themselves out to look like emaciated skeletons. I hate the message that sends to young girls. Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriously, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less competitive. They weren't threatened by who made more and who made less. She says that with Dupri, she feels as if she's met her match. When I look at Jermaine, I see myself, Jackson says. I feel as if I'm looking in the mirror. The connection I feel with him I have never felt with anybody else. Her new album, 20 Y.O., is slated for release Sept. 26. Dupri produced a few tracks, and longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam Harris and Terry Lewis pitched in on the disc as well. The pop star recently said she had packed on extra weight for a role in the upcoming movie Tennessee, which she ultimately had to pass on because of her new record. When asked if she'd rather have a hit album or win an Oscar, she says: Win an Oscar. It's just a passion. But can't I have both? Everybody in my family says I'm spoiled anyway. I want both... ---
[scifinoir2] MTV draws fire for cartoon of black women on leash
MTV draws fire for cartoon of black women on leash By Steve GormanWed Aug 9, 3:14 PM ET A new MTV cartoon depicting black women squatting on all fours tethered to leashes and defecating on the floor is drawing fire from several prominent African Americans who call the episode degrading. Critics say MTV showed especially poor judgment because the weekly animated program, Where My Dogs At?, appeals to young teens and airs at an hour, 12:30 p.m. on Saturdays, when many children are watching television. The show just completed its initial eight-episode run on MTV2, a spin-off channel of the music video institution that recently celebrated its 25th anniversary. The half-hour show lampoons real-life celebrities and pop culture as seen through the eyes of two wise-cracking stray dogs -- Woofie and Buddy -- voiced by comedians Tracy Morgan and Jeffrey Ross, respectively. A statement released this week by the Viacom Inc.-owned cable network, whose president, Christina Norman, is black, defended the episode in question as social satire. In it, a look-alike of rap star Snoop Dogg strolls into a pet shop with two bikini-clad black women on leashes. They hunch over on all fours and scratch themselves as he orders one of them to hand me my latte. At the end of the segment, the Snoopathon Dogg Esquire character dons a rubber glove to clean up excrement left on the floor by one of the women. MTV said the Woofie Loves Snoop episode, which first aired on July 1, was in fact a parody of an actual appearance Snoop Dogg made where he was accompanied by two women wearing neck collars and chains. We certainly do not condone Snoop's actions and the goal was to take aim at that incident for its insensitivity and outrageousness, the statement said. But several prominent blacks, including New York Daily News columnist Stanley Crouch, condemned the segment as misogynist, racist and crude, and they questioned the sincerity of MTV's contention that it was satirizing the outlandish behavior of a real-life rapper. Where's the context in that? said Lisa Fager, president and co-founder of the Industry Ears, a consortium of broadcast industry professionals who monitor and critique media content. Crouch suggested in a column this week that the Where My Dogs At? segment was an extension of dehumanizing images contained in gangsta rap videos aired by MTV and projected around the world as 'real' black culture. Payne Brown, a high-ranking executive at cable giant Comcast Corp., said he lodged a personal complaint in an e-mail to Norman but found her response, essentially the same as the network's press statement, to be unsatisfying. Clearly, it goes far beyond the pale of anything that remotely could be considered acceptable, he said of the episode, stressing that he was not speaking for Comcast. This is just me as an African-American father, husband and son. The first season of the show, which carries a rating advising that parents may find its material unsuitable for children under age 14, drew a cumulative audience of 17.2 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. Reuters/VNU Copyright © 2006 Reuters Limited. http://blog.thebayindogroup.com/ - Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?
Just send me a draft! Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JUst gave me an idea for an erotic story...Hush Martin! gotta make some change some how! g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. I work in the Boston office (HQ) of an advertising agency ( www.digitas.com ) and the young 20- and 30-somethings females in the office (overwhelmingly Caucasian, single, blonde, and from Connecticut) wear just about anything. As a hetero and married male, it makes for interesting eye candy. Besides thongs, the latest trend is the see-thru blouses with netting that stop above the belly button. This bare midrift or de-clothed zone (DCZ) from above the belly button to the top of the low-rider jeans makes it quite easy to see thong straps when my coworkers walk around the floor or sit in a chair at a meeting. The tattoos are usually in the small of the back waist level. George J. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, for one will be glad when the low rider jean fad is over. Don't get me wrong, it is a good look, but only on a small minority of the population. That style with its accompanying thong can take a good looking, relatively in shape woman and make her look like a cow. Meanwhile, she prancing around like she looks good. I've had to avert my eye on numerous occasions to hide my amusement and sometimes discuss. George, don't you work on a government office? Tracey g123curious wrote: This product wouldn't be necessary if women who shouldn't wear low-rider jeans didn't wear them. (smile) I see waay too many thong straps while at work. It's hard to take a person seriously when their thong strap and tatoos are hanging out there for the world to see. George Captain USS McNair --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote: OK guys, i swear this is scifi. i'm sorry, I had to send it. Buttless underwear!?!?! C V wrote: Did you all know there was such a thing as 'backless underwear'? I swear...I'm getting old and have seen it all. AND they're having a sale now! where the heck have i been? http://www.backlesslingerie.com/? cid=1134sid=4029pid=0mid=494 Camille [perhaps its 1/2 off??] LOL La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?
I was thinking either sex. I've gotten one wedgie in my life, and it's given me a permanent fear of having anything up the crack of my a$$. Imagine walking around daily with dental floss up your butt... Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course you're talking about the male observers, right? Think about it before you answer...lol Martin Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I can make a case for the existence of the thong being right out of science fiction. I mean, look at one! How can any lifeform put one on and function for any length of time without being in mind-numbing pain? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lessee, let's take a look at that heading...yep, I just checked and the group title says SciFiNoir--dedicated to all things science fiction. So why then has my breathing quickened, and I'm wiping the sweat from my forehead with a cold towel? :) -- Original message -- From: g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nope. I work in the Boston office (HQ) of an advertising agency ( www.digitas.com ) and the young 20- and 30-somethings females in the office (overwhelmingly Caucasian, single, blonde, and from Connecticut) wear just about anything. As a hetero and married male, it makes for interesting eye candy. Besides thongs, the latest trend is the see-thru blouses with netting that stop above the belly button. This bare midrift or de-clothed zone (DCZ) from above the belly button to the top of the low-rider jeans makes it quite easy to see thong straps when my coworkers walk around the floor or sit in a chair at a meeting. The tattoos are usually in the small of the back waist level. George J. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, for one will be glad when the low rider jean fad is over. Don't get me wrong, it is a good look, but only on a small minority of the population. That style with its accompanying thong can take a good looking, relatively in shape woman and make her look like a cow. Meanwhile, she prancing around like she looks good. I've had to avert my eye on numerous occasions to hide my amusement and sometimes discuss. George, don't you work on a government office? Tracey g123curious wrote: This product wouldn't be necessary if women who shouldn't wear low-rider jeans didn't wear them. (smile) I see waay too many thong straps while at work. It's hard to take a person seriously when their thong strap and tatoos are hanging out there for the world to see. George Captain USS McNair --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote: OK guys, i swear this is scifi. i'm sorry, I had to send it. Buttless underwear!?!?! C V wrote: Did you all know there was such a thing as 'backless underwear'? I swear...I'm getting old and have seen it all. AND they're having a sale now! where the heck have i been? http://www.backlesslingerie.com/? cid=1134sid=4029pid=0mid=494 Camille [perhaps its 1/2 off??] LOL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?
Thanks for that visual. Thanks so much. I think we're over intellectualizing the thong. Yes, I know I just started a debate about Bionic characters in a TV show, but I'm saying. I think the thong is more of decoration than an actual garment. I think people who are looking to wear/observe practical thongs are missing the point. It's not supposed to be ON that long, as I saw it, or it's just supposed to be covering for legal reasons. On Aug 11, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Martin Pratt wrote: I was thinking either sex. I've gotten one wedgie in my life, and it's given me a permanent fear of having anything up the crack of my a $$. Imagine walking around daily with dental floss up your butt... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Fwd: From SCIFI WIRE: SCI FI Gets Who Season Two
FYI, a friend just passed me this. Well, that's obvious... Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: From SCIFI WIRE: SCI FI Gets Who Season Two From: Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:32:43 -0400 (EDT) .copy { color: #00; font-size: 11px; line-height: 13px; font-family: verdana, Arial, Geneva, sans-serif; }.link { color: #663366; font-size: 11px; line-height: 13px; font-family: verdana, Arial, Geneva, sans-serif; text-decoration: none ; }h4 { font-family: verdana, Arial, Geneva, sans-serif; margin:4px 0 6px 0; padding:0px; } h5 { font-family: verdana, Arial, Geneva, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11px; margin:10px 0 6px 0; padding:0px; }.unsub { FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 9px; COLOR: #00; LINE-HEIGHT: 10px; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, Arial, Geneva, sans-serif; TEXT-DECORATION: none } SCI FI Gets Who Season TwoSCI FI Channel and BBC Worldwide Americas announced a major licensing agreement for SCI FI to air the second season of the hit British SF series Doctor Who in the United States. The series will return to SCI FI on Sept. 29. Click here to read full story This SCI FI WIRE link was sent to you by Martin Baxter.Finally! The e-mail addresses used for this service will not be sold or added to any other list in use by SCIFI.COM SCIFI.COM Privacy Policy SCIFI.COM 1230 Avenue of the Americas New York, N.Y. 10020 (212) 413-5870 Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: say good bye to the thongs?
Profuse apologies. And I'm the person who always calls people out for too much information. And I agree with your point entirely. It's gone past decorative wear and crawled into the fabric of the social conciousness. Daryle Lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that visual. Thanks so much. I think we're over intellectualizing the thong. Yes, I know I just started a debate about Bionic characters in a TV show, but I'm saying. I think the thong is more of decoration than an actual garment. I think people who are looking to wear/observe practical thongs are missing the point. It's not supposed to be ON that long, as I saw it, or it's just supposed to be covering for legal reasons. On Aug 11, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Martin Pratt wrote: I was thinking either sex. I've gotten one wedgie in my life, and it's given me a permanent fear of having anything up the crack of my a $$. Imagine walking around daily with dental floss up your butt... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Excuse me while I whip this out. Cleavon Little , Blazing Saddles - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe]
True, but like I said, if so, it's not a healthy regime that one would recommend for most people. You need some serious support and caretaking for a weight loss like that, especially if coupled with such an incredible increase in muscle tone. Those are two different aspects of physical training, either one of which would task average people in so short a time. But hey, when you have that kind of dough and your success is (largely) based on your looks, of course it's possible! _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Friday, 11 August, 2006 02:37 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe] It's possible, guys...saw too many fat bodies in boot camp turn into what the girls call hunks and we called Marines in no time flat... KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: Yeah, lots of people--such as Tom Joyner--find it hard to believe she dropped 60 pounds *and* got that incredibly cut in such a short time. It's only been maybe two months at most. Even if she did, it's not healthy at all. I know that she's fallen out many times in the past due to exhaustion and poor eating habits. And I know for a fact her workout regimes aren't the best. They're the kind only someone with lots of money should attempt, as you need dedicated nutritionists, cooks, personal trainers, hell--massage therapists! A whole team of people to make sure you don't kill yourself. No matter what anyone says, losing weight and getting fit is a slow process, and losing about 2.5 pounds a week is a realistic and practical standard. Any more than that--which is the Hollywood way--can be dangerous. One of the things that bothers me in modern society is the obssession with being too slim and impossiby fit. Now Jackson looks good--and thank God she has a Black butt that won't go away!--but so many actresses and entertainers are working themselves out to look like emaciated skeletons. I hate the message that sends to young girls. Sometimes I feel as if I'm the only guy left who still thinks the voluptuous look of the old days is the best: for non-Black women, that'd be Rita Hayworth, Racquel Welch, Sophia Loren, Yvette Mimieux, Yvonne Craig (Batgirl, Green Orion Slave Girl in Star Trek the OS). Nowadays you can bet that when I think a white actress has a shape, someone will tell her she's fat, and you'll come back later to see she's dropped twenty or so pounds. A few like Scarlett Johannsen resist it, and I hear a backlash is growing among some actresses, but the unrealistic expectations are crazy. In the main I think Black people still have a healthier attitude. Seriously, I think the natural butts and big legs many Blacks have help our women not go too far down that skinny-as-a-board road, but I'm seeing more young Sisters buy into the hype. They say everything comes back in style in time. I just wonder when the days of the voluptuous curvy woman will return to mass media? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Lockhart science fiction at its best. On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:36 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Original Message Subject: Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:15:12 -0400 From: C V Reply-To: GIRLFRIEND To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GIRLFRIEND%40HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM EASE.LSOFT.COM all i can say is for a person who just lost 60 lbs this year, she certainly is flat.but what do i know? LOL Camille [ain't mad at her either!] = Janet Jackson Poses Topless for Vibe http://apnews1. http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? iwon.com//article/20060807/D8JBPUN01.html? PG=homeSEC=news Aug 7, 4:15 PM (ET) NEW YORK (AP) - Janet Jackson has never been afraid to expose some skin. The 40-year-old singer, newly svelte after losing some 60 pounds, appears on the cover of Vibe magazine wearing a skimpy bikini bottom and a necklace made of large shells. Her right arm covers her breasts. Will she ever stop posing for sexy photos? Of course. When I'm 80, she tells Vibe. That's when I'll call it quits. Two years ago, Justin Timberlake pulled off a part of Jackson's bustier, briefly exposing one of her breasts, during the Super Bowl halftime show. In an interview in the magazine's September issue, on newsstands Aug. 15, Jackson says the incident - variously referred to as Nipplegate and the bra-ha-ha - is history. It's just over and done with. It's old. It's the past. It's history. I'm onto something new. Everybody got their licks in - those who wanted to - and it's done, she says. Jackson credits her boyfriend, 33-year-old music producer Jermaine Dupri, for giving her self-esteem a little boost. I came to realize that younger men had less of a problem with who I am than older men, she says. With the younger guys, there was less ego. Things were less