[scifinoir2] NASA's plan for unstable astronauts: Duct tape, tranquilizers

[Brent Wodehouse]

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/02/23/astronaut.plan.ap/index.html

NASA's plan for unstable astronauts: Duct tape, tranquilizers

February 23, 2007


CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (AP) - What would happen if an astronaut became
mentally unstable in space and, say, destroyed the ship's oxygen system or
tried to open the hatch and kill everyone aboard?

That was the question after the apparent breakdown of Lisa Nowak, arrested
this month on charges she tried to kidnap and kill a woman she regarded as
her rival for another astronaut's affections.

It turns out NASA has detailed, written procedures for dealing with a
suicidal or psychotic astronaut in space. The documents, obtained this
week by The Associated Press, say the astronaut's crewmates should bind
his wrists and ankles with duct tape, tie him down with a bungee cord and
inject him with tranquilizers if necessary.

"Talk with the patient while you are restraining him," the instructions
say. "Explain what you are doing, and that you are using a restraint to
ensure that he is safe."

The instructions do not spell out what happens after that. But NASA
spokesman James Hartsfield said the space agency, a flight surgeon on the
ground and the commander in space would decide on a case-by-case basis
whether to abort the flight, in the case of the shuttle, or send the
astronaut home, if the episode took place on the international space
station.

The crew members might have to rely in large part on brute strength to
subdue an out-of-control astronaut, since there are no weapons on the
space station or the shuttle. A gun would be out of the question; a bullet
could pierce a spaceship and kill everyone. There are no stun guns on hand.

"NASA has determined that there is no need for weapons at the space
station," Hartsfield said.

NASA and its Russian counterpart drew up the checklist for the space
station in 2001. Hartsfield said NASA has a nearly identical set of
procedures for the shuttle, but he would not provide a copy Friday, saying
its release had not yet been cleared by the space agency's lawyers.

The space-station checklist is part of a 1,051-page document that contains
instructions for dealing with every possible medical situation in space,
including removing a tooth. Handling behavioral emergencies takes up five
pages.

The military has a similar protocol for restraining or confining violent,
mentally unstable crew members who pose a threat to themselves or others
in nuclear submarines or other dangerous settings.

Although Nowak performed her duties with aplomb during a short visit to
the space station via the shuttle last July, and was not scheduled to fly
again, her arrest has led NASA to review its psychological screening
process.

A mentally unstable astronaut could cause all kinds of havoc that could
endanger the three crew members aboard the space station or the six or
seven who typically fly aboard the shuttle.

Space station medical kits contain tranquilizers and anti-depression,
anti-anxiety and anti-psychotic medications. Shuttle medical kits have
anti-psychotic medication but not antidepressants, since they take several
weeks to be effective and shuttle flights last less than two weeks.

The checklist says astronauts can be restrained and then offered oral
Haldol, an anti-psychotic drug used to treat agitation and mania, and
Valium. If the astronaut will not cooperate, the drugs can be forcibly
given with a shot to the arm. Crew members are instructed to stay with the
tied-up astronaut to monitor vital signs.

Space station astronauts talk weekly via long-distance hookup to a flight
surgeon and every two weeks to a psychologist, so any psychiatric disorder
would probably be detected before it became so serious that the astronaut
had to be brought home, Hartsfield said.

No NASA astronaut at the space station has been treated in orbit with
anti-psychotic or antidepressant medications, and no NASA shuttle crew
member has required anti-psychotic medications, Hartsfield said.

Depression, feelings of isolation and stress are not unheard of during
long stays in space.

A couple of Soviet crews in past decades are believed to have experienced
psychological problems, and U.S. astronaut John Blaha admitted feeling
depressed at the start of a four-month stay at the Soviets' Mir space
station more than a decade ago. Antidepressants were not available.

"I think you have to battle yourself and tell yourself, 'Look, this is
your new planet ... and you need to enjoy this environment,"' Blaha told
the AP last week. "You sort of shift yourself mentally."

During missions in 1985 and 1995, shuttle commanders put padlocks on the
spaceships' hatches as a precaution since they did not know the scientists
aboard very well. Some crew members, called payload specialists, are
picked to fly for specific scientific or commercial tasks and do not train
as extensively with the other astronauts.

Would-be astronauts are carefully tested and screened to eliminate those
wh

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: COMMENTARY: Can 'Wonder Woman' succeed purely as action hero?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I speak for my fellow scorps when I say we are easygoing, surface folk

Tracey

Reece Jennings wrote:
>
> LOL! Oh, and we must add Virgos to the list. The big three. My third
> ex-wife is a Virgo. She was truly a disturbed lady because of the way
> she was raised. But inside, there was a sensitive spirit. Outside, she was
> quietly mean and manipulative. But I would probably still take her back.
>
> We're still in touch because of our daughter and grandchildren. Oh 
> yes, and
> alimony! LOL! And we haven't seen each other since our 2000 divorce.
> But I wonder how I would react to seeing her again. Phone 
> conversations are
>
> pleasant, and having grandchildren has mellowed her a LOT!
>
> There were things I would have done differently if I had the insight then
> that I have
> now, and we have talked about this. Life goes on...
>
> And you're right about Tauri, too. I have found that women born under
> these 3 signs...
> Taurus, Virgo, and Scorpio...are intense. And whether they go to the 'dark
> side' or not
> depends on who raises them, and how.
>
> _
>
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com  
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> purely
> as action hero?
>
> Not all Tauri are trouble. The second one I had, I just might take her 
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> The Taurus *I* was thinking about was actually on the stable side. 
> *Another*
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>
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> ex-BF. Ten minutes later, she was testing the shocks in her VW Bug 
> with the
> aforementioned ex. I dumed her that night, but she had trouble with the
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> face.
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> What's she doing now, you ask?
>
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>
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Re: [scifinoir2] The cover-up of a (Black female) soldier's death?

[Martin]

Lady, i wish i could say that *anything* that's occurred during this war shocks 
or surprises me.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
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Subject: The cover-up of a (Black female) soldier's death?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:28:32 -0600


The cover-up of a soldier's death?
Private First Class LaVena Johnson

*The next Pat Tillman-style cover-up?*


By Philip Barron
Posted on February 22, 2007, Printed on February 22, 2007
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/barron/48365/


Once upon a time lived a young woman from a St. Louis suburb. She was an 
honor roll student, she played the violin, she donated blood and 
volunteered for American Heart Association walks. She elected to put off 
college for a while and joined the Army once out of school. At Fort 
Campbell, KY, she was assigned as a weapons supply manager to the 129th 
Corps Support Battalion.

She was LaVena Johnson, private first class, and she died near Balad, 
Iraq, on July 19, 2005, just eight days shy of her twentieth birthday. 
She was the first woman soldier from Missouri to die while serving in 
Iraq or Afghanistan.

The tragedy of her story begins there.

An Army representative initially told LaVena's father, Dr. John Johnson, 
that his daughter died of "died of self-inflicted, noncombat injuries," 
but initially added that it was not a suicide. The subsequent Army 
investigation reversed this finding and declared LaVena's death a 
suicide, a finding refuted by the soldier's family. In an article in the 
/St. Louis Post-Dispatch/, Dr. Johnson pointed to indications that his 
daughter had endured a physical struggle before she died - two loose 
front teeth, a "busted lip" that had to be reconstructed by the funeral 
home - suggesting that "someone might have punched her in the mouth."

A promise by the office of Representative William Lacy Clay to look into 
the matter produced nothing. The military said that the matter was closed.

Little more on LaVena's death was said until St. Louis CBS affiliate 
KMOV aired a story last night 

which disclosed troubling details not previously made public - details 
which belie the Army's assertion that the young Florissant native died 
by her own hand. The video of the report is available on the KMOV 
website 
.

Reporter Matt Sczesny spoke with LaVena's father and examined documents 
and photos sent by Army investigators. So far from supporting the claim 
that LaVena died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the documents 
provided elements of another scenario altogether:

* Indications of physical abuse that went unremarked by the autopsy
* The absence of psychological indicators of suicidal thoughts;
indeed, testimony that LaVena was happy and healthy prior to her
death
* Indications, via residue tests, that LaVena may not even have
handled the weapon that killed her
* A blood trail outside the tent where Lavena's body was found
* Indications that someone attenpted to set LaVena's body on fire

The Army has resisted calls by Dr. Johnson and by KMOV to reopen its 
investigation.

We have seen in other military deaths, most infamously that of Army 
Ranger and former professional football player Cpl. Pat Tillman, that 
the Army has engaged in an insulting game of deny and delay when it 
comes to uncovering embarrassing facts. Only when public and official 
attention is brought to bear on the matter - as happened, eventually and 
with great effort 
, 
with the case of Cpl. Tillman - do unpleasant truths come to light.

Astonishing as it seems, it takes that level of outrage to compel the 
Army to find the truth and tell it, to honor its own soldiers. No such 
groundswell has yet emerged in the case of LaVena; not enough voices 
have demanded that someone in the military, anyone, speak for her. At 
first glance, the contrast between the cases of Pat Tillman and LaVena 
Johnson seems vast, but at the core the situations are the same. In each 
case, the death of a young soldier in a dangerous place and time was not 
explained to the families they left behind, the families that gave them 
up so that they could serve us. An honest accounting of their passing is 
all the dead ask of us.

The mother of Pat Tillman put the matter in stark and honest terms:

"This is how they treat a family of a high-profile individual," she
said. "How are they treating others?" 

In the case of Private First Class Johnson, we know the answer.

*Update:* If you are so inclined, you may send a message on this matter 
to your Senator on *the Senate Armed Services Committee *:

*Democrats*

*Carl Levin* , Chairman 
(Michigan)

*Claire McCaskill * (Missouri)

*Edward M. Kennedy* 
(Massachusetts)

*Robert C. Byrd * (West Virginia)

*Joseph I. Lieberman* (Connecticut)

*Jack Reed * (Rhode Island)

*Daniel K. Akaka* 
(Hawaii)

*Bill Nelson* (Florida)

*E. Benjamin Nelson* 
(Nebraska)

*Evan Bayh* (Indiana)

*Hillary Rodham Clinton* 
(New York)

*Mark L. Pryor* (Arkansas)

Re: [scifinoir2] Swashbuckler!: Jimmy cracked porn, and man do we care

[Martin]

Porn? Who said porn?
   
  Seriously, my first thought, upon hearing about this on the morning news, 
was, "If the volume was up that loud, didn't the guy hear any of the cheesy 
dialogue?" (For the record, the *only* reason I know about that is because, 
among the few friends I claim to have, I'm the designated "porn-purchaser" for 
parties, because they all know how uncomfortable I get when buying or viewing 
it. Remind me to tell you about he *last* time I was sent on a run...)

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  No 15 minutes of shame for porn-story star 
Posted: Feb. 22, 2007

Jim Stingl

Jimmy cracked porn, and man do we care. 

People can't get enough of this story of the swashbuckling James Van 
Iveren, who thought he was stopping a rape when he armed himself with 
a sword and burst into his neighbor's apartment.

Turns out he had heard an adult movie being enjoyed by the guy 
upstairs, Bret Stieghorst.

That's a better plot than you're ever going to see in an X-rated 
video, or so I've heard. 

It was Zorro vs. porno, and Zorro lost.

Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, is charged with trespassing, damaging 
property by kicking in the door and disorderly conduct, all while 
armed with a dangerous weapon: a 39-inch sword he got from his dad.

For sheer entertainment value, about the only way to improve this 
story is if Sir Lancelot were wearing a diaper and drove 900 miles to 
catch his neighbor watching porn. What's amazing to me is that both 
Van Iveren and Stieghorst have discussed this embarrassing episode 
with the media.

Stieghorst, 33, the cheeriest crime victim you ever saw, invited at 
least one television crew into his apartment. He let them take close-
ups of the television and speakers he uses to watch DVDs like the one 
in question, "Casa de Culo." That's right, he speaks porn as a second 
language.

"I only bought it for the hot chicks," Stieghorst told a Journal 
Sentinel reporter who passed that quote along to half a million 
readers.

Times must be changing. I thought at least a modicum of shame was 
part of the appeal of porn. In his defense, it was adult porn and he 
wasn't watching at work.

Stieghorst said he's not going to let one medieval attack in his 
living room interfere with his viewing choices, though he might buy 
some headphones.

For a while there, people were lining up to give Van Iveren a medal 
for trying to stop a possible rape with a rapier. But we still 
haven't heard an explanation of why he waited nine hours to unsheathe 
his weapon. The dueling came long after the drooling.

According to Stieghorst, the movie ended at 2:30 a.m. and the rescuer 
didn't show up until 11:30 a.m., demanding to know where he was 
hiding the woman.

And the police, after a careful viewing of the evidence, did detect 
some female screaming in the motion picture but found that the sex 
appeared to be consensual.

As much as any porn that exploits vulnerable and coked-up young women 
can be consensual.

It's fortunate that Stieghorst wasn't watching "War of the Worlds." 
Van Iveren might have shown up with the cavalry.

When he broke into Stieghorst's place, Van Iveren probably didn't 
know whether to run him in or run him through.

He managed to cede the moral high ground to a guy watching porn. It's 
possible he misunderstood the adage - it's "Fences make good 
neighbors," not fencing. 

Van Iveren shouldn't get any prison time, though at least there he 
could try to stop some real rapes. I'm thinking community service at 
an adult video store where he could learn the difference between a 
damsel in distress and that faked female pleasure in porn.

Let's chip in and buy him a phone so he can call police when he 
witnesses a supposed crime.

We don't need any more proof that the porn is mightier than the sword.

Call Jim Stingl at (414) 224-2017 or e-mail at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 


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Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Email Addicts 12-Step Program]

[Martin]

IveonlycheckedminetentimesinthelastelevenminutesIdon'thaveaproblem

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
IcanlivewithoutemailIcanlivewithoutemailIcanlivewithoutemail

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 Original Message 
Subject: RE: Email Addicts 12-Step Program
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:11:01 -0600
From: Henry, Cynthia 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* New 12-step program designed to tackle e-mail addiction

* First of 12 steps: Admit that e-mail is managing you
* Addict: 'E-mail had me by the throat'

PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (Reuters) -- Alcoholics have one, and so do
drug abusers. Now people addicted to e-mail also have a 12-step program
designed to tackle their obsession.

An executive coach in Pennsylvania has devised a plan to teach people
how to manage the electronic tool, which some users say can be as much
an intrusive waste of time as it is fast-paced and efficient.

Developed for cases such as a golfer who checked his BlackBerry after
every shot, and lost a potential client who wanted nothing to do with
his obsession, Marsha Egan's plan taps into deepening concern that
e-mail misuse can cost businesses millions of dollars in lost
productivity. 

"There is a crisis in corporate America, but a lot of CEOs don't know
it," Egan said. "They haven't figured out how expensive it is."

One of Egan's clients cannot walk by a computer -- her own or anyone
else's -- without checking for messages. Other people will not vacation
anywhere they cannot connect to their e-mail systems. Some wait for
e-mail and send themselves a message if one hasn't shown up in several
minutes, Egan said. 

The first of Egan's 12 steps is "admit that e-mail is managing you. Let
go of your need to check e-mail every 10 minutes." ( Read the 12 steps
index.html> )

Other steps include "commit to keeping your inbox empty," "establish
regular times to review your e-mail" and "deal immediately with any
e-mail that can be handled in two minutes or less but create a file for
mails that will take longer." 

Egan says she hosts no 12-step meetings but is planning a monthly
teleconference for "e-mailers anonymous."

Michelle Grace, an insurance agent in Lehighton, Pennsylvania, said she
receives up to 60 messages a day and uses Egan's program to make it less
time-consuming and less stressful.

"E-mail had me by the throat," she said. "When you can't find what you
need, then it becomes a problem."

Now that her e-mail is transferred -- some manually and some
automatically -- into files, Grace said she spends less time hunting for
them.

On average, workers who receive an e-mail take four minutes to read it
and recover from the interruption before they can resume working
productively, Egan said.

She also recommends checking e-mail not more than three or four times a
day.

Some employees resist the lure of e-mail during the regular workday,
only to find themselves putting in extra hours at home to clear the
backlog, she said. One of Egan's clients said he had 3,600 messages in
his inbox. 

Part of the problem is senders who copy messages too widely and are too
vague in their subject lines, so recipients don't know what they need to
open right away, Egan said.

For Grace, relief from her e-mail addiction means she is not checking
her computer every five minutes.

She said she has let her colleagues know that if they need to reach her
immediately, e-mail is not the way to do it.

"I told them, 'If you need me urgently, pick up the phone,'" she said.

Copyright 2007 Reuters
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Re: [scifinoir2] Licensed to pill

[Martin]

Thanks for reminding me that I need to take my daily Singulair before finishing 
this post...
   
  Now...
   
  U...
   
  Me forget what me was about to say...

g123curious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Email Addicts 12-Step Program]

[Martin]

IcanlivewithoutemailIcanlivewithoutemailIcanlivewithoutemail

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 Original Message 
Subject: RE: Email Addicts 12-Step Program
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:11:01 -0600
From: Henry, Cynthia 
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

* New 12-step program designed to tackle e-mail addiction

* First of 12 steps: Admit that e-mail is managing you
* Addict: 'E-mail had me by the throat'

PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (Reuters) -- Alcoholics have one, and so do
drug abusers. Now people addicted to e-mail also have a 12-step program
designed to tackle their obsession.

An executive coach in Pennsylvania has devised a plan to teach people
how to manage the electronic tool, which some users say can be as much
an intrusive waste of time as it is fast-paced and efficient.

Developed for cases such as a golfer who checked his BlackBerry after
every shot, and lost a potential client who wanted nothing to do with
his obsession, Marsha Egan's plan taps into deepening concern that
e-mail misuse can cost businesses millions of dollars in lost
productivity. 

"There is a crisis in corporate America, but a lot of CEOs don't know
it," Egan said. "They haven't figured out how expensive it is."

One of Egan's clients cannot walk by a computer -- her own or anyone
else's -- without checking for messages. Other people will not vacation
anywhere they cannot connect to their e-mail systems. Some wait for
e-mail and send themselves a message if one hasn't shown up in several
minutes, Egan said. 

The first of Egan's 12 steps is "admit that e-mail is managing you. Let
go of your need to check e-mail every 10 minutes." ( Read the 12 steps
index.html> )

Other steps include "commit to keeping your inbox empty," "establish
regular times to review your e-mail" and "deal immediately with any
e-mail that can be handled in two minutes or less but create a file for
mails that will take longer." 

Egan says she hosts no 12-step meetings but is planning a monthly
teleconference for "e-mailers anonymous."

Michelle Grace, an insurance agent in Lehighton, Pennsylvania, said she
receives up to 60 messages a day and uses Egan's program to make it less
time-consuming and less stressful.

"E-mail had me by the throat," she said. "When you can't find what you
need, then it becomes a problem."

Now that her e-mail is transferred -- some manually and some
automatically -- into files, Grace said she spends less time hunting for
them.

On average, workers who receive an e-mail take four minutes to read it
and recover from the interruption before they can resume working
productively, Egan said.

She also recommends checking e-mail not more than three or four times a
day.

Some employees resist the lure of e-mail during the regular workday,
only to find themselves putting in extra hours at home to clear the
backlog, she said. One of Egan's clients said he had 3,600 messages in
his inbox. 

Part of the problem is senders who copy messages too widely and are too
vague in their subject lines, so recipients don't know what they need to
open right away, Egan said.

For Grace, relief from her e-mail addiction means she is not checking
her computer every five minutes.

She said she has let her colleagues know that if they need to reach her
immediately, e-mail is not the way to do it.

"I told them, 'If you need me urgently, pick up the phone,'" she said.

Copyright 2007 Reuters
. All rights
reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or
redistributed. 





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[scifinoir2] Swashbuckler!: Jimmy cracked porn, and man do we care

[ravenadal]

No 15 minutes of shame for porn-story star 
Posted: Feb. 22, 2007


Jim Stingl

   
Jimmy cracked porn, and man do we care. 

People can't get enough of this story of the swashbuckling James Van 
Iveren, who thought he was stopping a rape when he armed himself with 
a sword and burst into his neighbor's apartment.

Turns out he had heard an adult movie being enjoyed by the guy 
upstairs, Bret Stieghorst.

That's a better plot than you're ever going to see in an X-rated 
video, or so I've heard. 

It was Zorro vs. porno, and Zorro lost.

Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, is charged with trespassing, damaging 
property by kicking in the door and disorderly conduct, all while 
armed with a dangerous weapon: a 39-inch sword he got from his dad.

For sheer entertainment value, about the only way to improve this 
story is if Sir Lancelot were wearing a diaper and drove 900 miles to 
catch his neighbor watching porn. What's amazing to me is that both 
Van Iveren and Stieghorst have discussed this embarrassing episode 
with the media.

Stieghorst, 33, the cheeriest crime victim you ever saw, invited at 
least one television crew into his apartment. He let them take close-
ups of the television and speakers he uses to watch DVDs like the one 
in question, "Casa de Culo." That's right, he speaks porn as a second 
language.

"I only bought it for the hot chicks," Stieghorst told a Journal 
Sentinel reporter who passed that quote along to half a million 
readers.

Times must be changing. I thought at least a modicum of shame was 
part of the appeal of porn. In his defense, it was adult porn and he 
wasn't watching at work.

Stieghorst said he's not going to let one medieval attack in his 
living room interfere with his viewing choices, though he might buy 
some headphones.

For a while there, people were lining up to give Van Iveren a medal 
for trying to stop a possible rape with a rapier. But we still 
haven't heard an explanation of why he waited nine hours to unsheathe 
his weapon. The dueling came long after the drooling.

According to Stieghorst, the movie ended at 2:30 a.m. and the rescuer 
didn't show up until 11:30 a.m., demanding to know where he was 
hiding the woman.

And the police, after a careful viewing of the evidence, did detect 
some female screaming in the motion picture but found that the sex 
appeared to be consensual.

As much as any porn that exploits vulnerable and coked-up young women 
can be consensual.

It's fortunate that Stieghorst wasn't watching "War of the Worlds." 
Van Iveren might have shown up with the cavalry.

When he broke into Stieghorst's place, Van Iveren probably didn't 
know whether to run him in or run him through.

He managed to cede the moral high ground to a guy watching porn. It's 
possible he misunderstood the adage - it's "Fences make good 
neighbors," not fencing. 

Van Iveren shouldn't get any prison time, though at least there he 
could try to stop some real rapes. I'm thinking community service at 
an adult video store where he could learn the difference between a 
damsel in distress and that faked female pleasure in porn.

Let's chip in and buy him a phone so he can call police when he 
witnesses a supposed crime.

We don't need any more proof that the porn is mightier than the sword.

Call Jim Stingl at (414) 224-2017 or e-mail at 
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[scifinoir2] The cover-up of a (Black female) soldier's death?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

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Subject:The cover-up of a (Black female) soldier's death?
Date:   Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:28:32 -0600


The cover-up of a soldier's death?
Private First Class LaVena Johnson

*The next Pat Tillman-style cover-up?*


  By Philip Barron
  Posted on February 22, 2007, Printed on February 22, 2007
  http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/barron/48365/
  

Once upon a time lived a young woman from a St. Louis suburb. She was an 
honor roll student, she played the violin, she donated blood and 
volunteered for American Heart Association walks. She elected to put off 
college for a while and joined the Army once out of school. At Fort 
Campbell, KY, she was assigned as a weapons supply manager to the 129th 
Corps Support Battalion.

She was LaVena Johnson, private first class, and she died near Balad, 
Iraq, on July 19, 2005, just eight days shy of her twentieth birthday. 
She was the first woman soldier from Missouri to die while serving in 
Iraq or Afghanistan.

The tragedy of her story begins there.

An Army representative initially told LaVena's father, Dr. John Johnson, 
that his daughter died of "died of self-inflicted, noncombat injuries," 
but initially added that it was not a suicide. The subsequent Army 
investigation reversed this finding and declared LaVena's death a 
suicide, a finding refuted by the soldier's family. In an article in the 
/St. Louis Post-Dispatch/, Dr. Johnson pointed to indications that his 
daughter had endured a physical struggle before she died - two loose 
front teeth, a "busted lip" that had to be reconstructed by the funeral 
home - suggesting that "someone might have punched her in the mouth."

A promise by the office of Representative William Lacy Clay to look into 
the matter produced nothing. The military said that the matter was closed.

Little more on LaVena's death was said until St. Louis CBS affiliate 
KMOV aired a story last night 

 
which disclosed troubling details not previously made public - details 
which belie the Army's assertion that the young Florissant native died 
by her own hand. The video of the report is available on the KMOV 
website 
.

Reporter Matt Sczesny spoke with LaVena's father and examined documents 
and photos sent by Army investigators. So far from supporting the claim 
that LaVena died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, the documents 
provided elements of another scenario altogether:

* Indications of physical abuse that went unremarked by the autopsy
* The absence of psychological indicators of suicidal thoughts;
  indeed, testimony that LaVena was happy and healthy prior to her
  death
* Indications, via residue tests, that LaVena may not even have
  handled the weapon that killed her
* A blood trail outside the tent where Lavena's body was found
* Indications that someone attenpted to set LaVena's body on fire

The Army has resisted calls by Dr. Johnson and by KMOV to reopen its 
investigation.

We have seen in other military deaths, most infamously that of Army 
Ranger and former professional football player Cpl. Pat Tillman, that 
the Army has engaged in an insulting game of deny and delay when it 
comes to uncovering embarrassing facts. Only when public and official 
attention is brought to bear on the matter - as happened, eventually and 
with great effort 
,
 
with the case of Cpl. Tillman - do unpleasant truths come to light.

Astonishing as it seems, it takes that level of outrage to compel the 
Army to find the truth and tell it, to honor its own soldiers. No such 
groundswell has yet emerged in the case of LaVena; not enough voices 
have demanded that someone in the military, anyone, speak for her. At 
first glance, the contrast between the cases of Pat Tillman and LaVena 
Johnson seems vast, but at the core the situations are the same. In each 
case, the death of a young soldier in a dangerous place and time was not 
explained to the families they left behind, the families that gave them 
up so that they could serve us. An honest accounting of their passing is 
all the dead ask of us.

The mother of Pat Tillman put the matter in stark and honest terms:

"This is how they treat a family of a high-profile individual," she
said. "How are they treating others?" 

In the case of Private First Class Johnson, we know the answer.

*Update:* If you are so inclined, you may send a message on this matter 
to your Senator on *the Senate Armed Services Committee *:

*Democrats*

*Carl Levin* , Chairman 
(Michigan)

*Claire McCaskill * 

Re: [SPAM] [scifinoir2] OT: Man With Sword Mistakes Neighbor's Porn for Rape

[Martin]

No, that's a conventional Claymore, according to all the Scots folk I know.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Okay, now I remember the blade. I've seen it. 
Very European. I believe sword's used by some of the principals in George R.R. 
Martin's novels. Speaking of big a$$ swords, did you see the season seven ep of 
"Highlander" when McLeod went home to Scotland? He fought an evil immortal 
there using his family sword: one of those long-ass blades the Scots used to 
cut the legs from charging horses. That blade was at least six feet long. Is it 
the same?

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
It's a big-a$$ blade, averaging five to six feet in length. You have to use it 
more as a staff than a blade, clubbing opponents into submission as much as 
stabbing them. I tried to take it up back when I worked, had a little success 
until my wrists started giving out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which is the hand-and-a-half sword? I recently found 
agreat website on swords, and a cheap book about them on sell at Borders, but 
haven't dived into either yet

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Just flimsy things. I could manage them when I was a little shorter (back when 
I was a paltry 6'2" or so), but when I passed 6'4"...

And, if I could, I'd take up the hand-and-a-half sword, because it would fit 
well with the training I've had in JKT and aikido.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What happened to your wrists?
If given a choice of a weapon to use, what type of sword would you go with? A 
katana sword, a European broadsword, a curved sword similar to those used by 
the Monguls or the Arabs, what?
Ever watch the series "Highlander"? Even though the fights were of course 
stylized for TV, I loved the battles between McLeod and his Japanese sword and 
all the other immortals and their blades. 

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I love swords, too, always preferred them over guns, but I don't have the wrist 
strength for it anymore.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
fenced in high school and a little in college too! There are so few 
Black fencing enthusiasts, I always get excited with I meet one. 

Tracey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
> Although I joke about him carrying a sword--and as someone who fenced 
> in college and owns a foil, I can't talk--speaking personally, if Man 
> must bear weapons I'd prefer swords to guns. Sure, the idea of a guy 
> getting skewered in the gut is disturbing, but so is the sight of a 
> hollow point entering same gut--and the exit wound it leaves. And I 
> know the images of recent years of some of our African brothers 
> literally hacking each other to death with machetes might give some 
> pause. But I contend that's nothing compared to the sight of men too 
> young to drive, spraying hundreds of bullets indiscriminately: boys 
> literally wielding the power of small armies. At least with bladed 
> weapons you have to get up close and personal, and the collateral 
> damage is kept to a minimum. And a potential victim might stand a 
> better chance defending himself against a sword-wielding maniac than a 
> hail of bullets.
>
> Perhaps we should all became modern-day Don Quixotes like this guy, 
> wearing blades on our sides, carrying out ritual combat with rules. 
> Maybe the Crips and Bloods and other gangs should settle their 
> problems with their leaders dueling at dawn. Maybe if people had to 
> fight duels with agreed-upon weapons and seconds standing at the 
> ready, a bit of civilization would come back to warfare? Yeah, right
>
> 
> Sword seized after man mistakes porn for rape
> OCONOMOWOC, Wisconsin (AP) -- A man says he broke into an apartment 
> with a cavalry sword because he thought he heard a woman being raped, 
> but the sound actually was from a pornographic movie his upstairs 
> neighbor was watching.
> "Now I feel stupid," said James Van Iveren, who has been charged in 
> the case. "This really is nothing, nothing but a mistake."
> According to a criminal complaint, the neighbor told police that Van 
> Iveren pounded on the door and kicked it open without warning February 
> 12, damaging the frame and lock.
> "Where is she?" Van Iveren demanded, thrusting the sword at the 
> neighbor, the complaint said. "Where is she?"
> The neighbor told police Van Iveren became increasingly aggressive as 
> he repeated the question, insisting that he had heard a woman being 
> raped. The complaint said that, with the sword pointed at him, the 
> neighbor led Van Iveren throughout the apartment, opening closet doors 
> to prove he was alone.
> The neighbor later played for police the part of the DVD he believed 
> Van Iveren heard downstairs.
> The radio station WTMJ identified the neighbor as Bret Steighorst.
> Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, was charged with

Re: [scifinoir2] Tapping AKA Samantha Carter joins Atlantis Cast

[Martin]

Clearly, they never looked at any of us menfolk in here for that. And I doubt 
that it would've killed the Sam relationship angle.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Great idea! I can just see Rodney being scared/attracted to Vala, and 
her laughing at his nerdy, fumbling attentions. She'd probably find him equal 
parts amusing and irritating. 

Don't know if you knew this, but the original drafts of the Atlantis plot 
called for Rodney McKay to be a Black man--older, of course. Can't have no 
young good looking brother as a genius, now can we? The producers claimed they 
could never find an actor to fit the role. Wonder how the character would have 
played. I'm assuming the crush on Samantha would be gone

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Right, sorry, didn't get your meaning. And no, I doubt that her behavior would 
go over well in Atlantis. But Sam woul have a rival for Rodney's affections, no 
doubt. The writers should do it for that reason alone.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's right, but isn't Vala part of SG-1? I'm meaning 
I'd like to see her survive the SG-1 cancellation and move over to Atlantis, 
although Atlantis is more serious in the main than its predecessor. I wonder if 
her hijinx would go over with Elizabeth?

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
She is on the team. Last season, after the ep in which she lost her memory 
after being kidnapped by the remnants of the Trust, she managed to break up the 
last bit of the ring while addled. They gave her her unit patches at ep's end.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. I'd also love to see Vala (sp?)--played by 
Claudia Black--move over to the team. She really does a great mix of humour, 
sexiness, lovable treachery, and toughness. Versatile actress, given the change 
from her charcter on "Farscape".

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Daniel, IMO, should've been first into Atlantis. Common sense, since he did the 
work that found the location.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although i quickly tire of the "noble savage of 
color"--exhibited by T'elc and Teyla--I think I'd rather see T'elc join the 
Atlantis team than Carter. Or even Daniel Jackons. Absolutely nothing against 
Tapping, I just don't see her in that group either.

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith, re the "Paincauser Jane" series- that deal was in the books before the 
movie even aired. I kid you not. As for Carter joining Atlantis, I don't see 
that, unless they manage to dig up the AU Carter from the restart ep where SG-1 
went back to ancient Egypt, the geeky, awkward one. And I doubt that Rodney 
would see much in her. Most of his thing with Carter, IMO, is the fact that 
she's beautiful *and* his mental equal.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She and Rodney McKay--who loves her like mad--on the 
same show? Interesting. Wonder if she and O'Neal will *finally* get together 
before she flies off to the Pegasus Galaxy?

And what's with SciFi commissioning a "Painkiller Jane" series? The one movie I 
saw was nothing to write home about !

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Tapping Joins Atlantis Cast 
> 
> Stargate SG-1 star Amanda Tapping will join the cast of SCI FI Channel's 
> spinoff series Stargate Atlantis in that show's upcoming fourth season, 
> which commences in the fall, SCI FI announced. Tapping will reprise the 
> role of Lt. Col. Samantha Carter in Atlantis; she played the character 
> in the 10 seasons of SG-1, which goes off the air after completing the 
> final 10 episodes of the current 10th season, starting in April. 
> 
> Atlantis will resume production on the fourth season in Vancouver, 
> Canada, starting next month. Tapping will appear in 14 of Atlantis's 20 
> episodes. The new season will introduce a powerful new race and new cast 
> members and mark the loss of beloved friends. 
> 
> Meanwhile, Jewel Staite (Firefly, Serenity) returns to Atlantis and will 
> appear in eight episodes, reprising her role as Dr. Keller, a physician 
> who joins the Atlantis expedition. Staite previously appeared on the 
> series as Ellia, the Wraith child who was transformed into a human in 
> the season-two episode "Instinct." 
> 
> Season four of Stargate Atlantis will be executive-produced by Brad 
> Wright, Robert C. Cooper, Joseph Mallozzi and Paul Mullie. Mallozzi and 
> Mullie will share the reins as the series' show runners. 
> 
> The final episodes of Stargate SG-1 and the remainder of the third 
> season of Stargate Atlantis will air starting April 13, leading into the 
> series debut of Painkiller Jane. 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 

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[scifinoir2] [Fwd: At the Oscars: I'm Not Celebrating Racial Diversity Just Yet]

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

 Original Message 
Subject:At the Oscars: I'm Not Celebrating Racial Diversity Just Yet
Date:   Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:33:33 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



*At the Oscars: I'm Not Celebrating Racial Diversity Just Yet*
By Yoji Cole

 

I couldn't wait to celebrate the diversity of nominees at this Sunday's 
79th Annual Academy Awards. Never before have I seen so many faces of 
color in the list of nominees.

 

Of this year's 20 Oscar acting nominees, five are black, two are Latina 
and one is Japanese, while among best-picture nominees, much of "Babel" 
is in Arabic, Berber, Spanish and Japanese and "Letters from Iwo Jima" 
is almost entirely in Japanese.

 

All those nominees of color are exciting: Forest Whitaker, Will Smith, 
Eddie Murphy, Jennifer Hudson, Penelope Cruz, Djimon Hounsou, Adriana 
Barraza, Rinko Kikuchi.

 

Moreover, Mexican filmmakers are making a big splash at this year's 
ceremony as Guillermo Del Toro's "Pan's Labyrinth" received a nomination 
for best foreign-language film, along with five other nominations, 
including Best Original Screenplay, Art Direction, Cinematography, 
Makeup and Score. And not to be outdone, Alfonso Cuaron's "Children of 
Men" also received three nominations for Best Adapted Screenplay, 
Cinematography and Film Editing.

 

So why am I not bounding in leaps of joy down Hollywood Boulevard to 
celebrate diversity's success?

 

Well, Moctesuma Esparza, founder and CEO of Maya Cinemas and Maya 
Pictures and  a renowned Latino film producer, opened my eyes to the 
fact that American-born Latinos still are being ignored. Further, films 
created and written by black American producers, directors and writers 
were also forgotten.

 

"I think you're not seeing what you think you're seeing," Esparza said 
to me. "When you're thinking of 'Babel' and 'Pan's Labrynth' and 
'Children of Men' and some of the other actors, actresses and filmmakers 
nominated, these are not American Latinos. These are foreign nationals 
representing their foreign country and industry."

 

Esparza says it's as if black Americans can celebrate the Cotonou, 
Benin-born Djimon Hounsou's nomination as evidence that Hollywood is 
paying attention to the artistry of black-American actors.

 

"That's like saying that Africans from South Africa or Zimbabwe who are 
nominated are satisfying the aspirations of American blacks," said 
Esparza. "These guys grew up in Mexico ... a country where there's no 
racism based on being Mexican. There might be classicism but it's not 
[American] racism."

 

Esparza said he does believe the nominees with Spanish surnames will 
positively affect the efforts of American Latinos to break into 
Hollywood. But so far it's happening on the small screen. One of this 
year's big hits on television was ABC's "Ugly Betty" about an 
American-born Latina working as an assistant at a New York-based fashion 
magazine.

 

And Esparza is not alone in his critique of this year's Oscar nominees.

 

"It seems like Americans are the underdogs now," said Tanya Kersey, 
founder and executive director of the Hollywood Black Film Festival. 
"But for African Americans, it's great that we have truly one-quarter of 
the [actor] Oscar nominations."

 

Kersey notes that while "Dreamgirls" features a black-American cast, its 
writers, directors and producers were white. The problem is that black 
filmmakers, such as John Singleton and Spike Lee, among others, still 
have yet to get the Oscar they deserve, Kersey said.

 

"So we're not talking about a black film in the sense of black stars, 
black producers, black directors," said Kersey. "We're talking about 
films with black people in them. I think people need to pay attention to 
the reality of the situation and don't celebrate too much. Until Spike 
or John or other great black filmmakers get the [Oscar], then we still 
don't have a diverse Hollywood."



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[scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Email Addicts 12-Step Program]

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

 Original Message 
Subject:RE: Email Addicts 12-Step Program
Date:   Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:11:01 -0600
From:   Henry, Cynthia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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* New 12-step program designed to tackle e-mail addiction

* First of 12 steps: Admit that e-mail is managing you
* Addict: 'E-mail had me by the throat'
 
PHILADELPHIA, Pennsylvania (Reuters) -- Alcoholics have one, and so do
drug abusers. Now people addicted to e-mail also have a 12-step program
designed to tackle their obsession.

An executive coach in Pennsylvania has devised a plan to teach people
how to manage the electronic tool, which some users say can be as much
an intrusive waste of time as it is fast-paced and efficient.

Developed for cases such as a golfer who checked his BlackBerry after
every shot, and lost a potential client who wanted nothing to do with
his obsession, Marsha Egan's plan taps into deepening concern that
e-mail misuse can cost businesses millions of dollars in lost
productivity. 

"There is a crisis in corporate America, but a lot of CEOs don't know
it," Egan said. "They haven't figured out how expensive it is."

One of Egan's clients cannot walk by a computer -- her own or anyone
else's -- without checking for messages. Other people will not vacation
anywhere they cannot connect to their e-mail systems. Some wait for
e-mail and send themselves a message if one hasn't shown up in several
minutes, Egan said. 

The first of Egan's 12 steps is "admit that e-mail is managing you. Let
go of your need to check e-mail every 10 minutes." ( Read the 12 steps
 )

Other steps include "commit to keeping your inbox empty," "establish
regular times to review your e-mail" and "deal immediately with any
e-mail that can be handled in two minutes or less but create a file for
mails that will take longer." 

Egan says she hosts no 12-step meetings but is planning a monthly
teleconference for "e-mailers anonymous."

Michelle Grace, an insurance agent in Lehighton, Pennsylvania, said she
receives up to 60 messages a day and uses Egan's program to make it less
time-consuming and less stressful.

"E-mail had me by the throat," she said. "When you can't find what you
need, then it becomes a problem."

Now that her e-mail is transferred -- some manually and some
automatically -- into files, Grace said she spends less time hunting for
them.

On average, workers who receive an e-mail take four minutes to read it
and recover from the interruption before they can resume working
productively, Egan said.

She also recommends checking e-mail not more than three or four times a
day.

Some employees resist the lure of e-mail during the regular workday,
only to find themselves putting in extra hours at home to clear the
backlog, she said. One of Egan's clients said he had 3,600 messages in
his inbox. 

Part of the problem is senders who copy messages too widely and are too
vague in their subject lines, so recipients don't know what they need to
open right away, Egan said.

For Grace, relief from her e-mail addiction means she is not checking
her computer every five minutes.

She said she has let her colleagues know that if they need to reach her
immediately, e-mail is not the way to do it.

"I told them, 'If you need me urgently, pick up the phone,'" she said.

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[scifinoir2] Licensed to pill

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Be sure to turn on sound:

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Re: [SPAM] [scifinoir2] OT: Man With Sword Mistakes Neighbor's Porn for Rape

[KeithBJohnson]

Okay, now I remember the blade. I've seen it. Very European. I believe sword's 
used by some of the principals in George R.R. Martin's novels.  Speaking of big 
a$$ swords, did you see the season seven ep of "Highlander" when McLeod went 
home to Scotland? He fought an evil immortal there using his family sword: one 
of those long-ass blades the Scots used to cut the legs from charging horses. 
That blade was at least six feet long. Is it the same?

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
It's a big-a$$ blade, averaging five to six feet in length. You have to use it 
more as a staff than a blade, clubbing opponents into submission as much as 
stabbing them. I tried to take it up back when I worked, had a little success 
until my wrists started giving out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which is the hand-and-a-half sword? I recently found 
agreat website on swords, and a cheap book about them on sell at Borders, but 
haven't dived into either yet

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Just flimsy things. I could manage them when I was a little shorter (back when 
I was a paltry 6'2" or so), but when I passed 6'4"...

And, if I could, I'd take up the hand-and-a-half sword, because it would fit 
well with the training I've had in JKT and aikido.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What happened to your wrists?
If given a choice of a weapon to use, what type of sword would you go with? A 
katana sword, a European broadsword, a curved sword similar to those used by 
the Monguls or the Arabs, what?
Ever watch the series "Highlander"? Even though the fights were of course 
stylized for TV, I loved the battles between McLeod and his Japanese sword and 
all the other immortals and their blades. 

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I love swords, too, always preferred them over guns, but I don't have the wrist 
strength for it anymore.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
fenced in high school and a little in college too! There are so few 
Black fencing enthusiasts, I always get excited with I meet one. 

Tracey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
> Although I joke about him carrying a sword--and as someone who fenced 
> in college and owns a foil, I can't talk--speaking personally, if Man 
> must bear weapons I'd prefer swords to guns. Sure, the idea of a guy 
> getting skewered in the gut is disturbing, but so is the sight of a 
> hollow point entering same gut--and the exit wound it leaves. And I 
> know the images of recent years of some of our African brothers 
> literally hacking each other to death with machetes might give some 
> pause. But I contend that's nothing compared to the sight of men too 
> young to drive, spraying hundreds of bullets indiscriminately: boys 
> literally wielding the power of small armies. At least with bladed 
> weapons you have to get up close and personal, and the collateral 
> damage is kept to a minimum. And a potential victim might stand a 
> better chance defending himself against a sword-wielding maniac than a 
> hail of bullets.
>
> Perhaps we should all became modern-day Don Quixotes like this guy, 
> wearing blades on our sides, carrying out ritual combat with rules. 
> Maybe the Crips and Bloods and other gangs should settle their 
> problems with their leaders dueling at dawn. Maybe if people had to 
> fight duels with agreed-upon weapons and seconds standing at the 
> ready, a bit of civilization would come back to warfare? Yeah, right
>
> 
> Sword seized after man mistakes porn for rape
> OCONOMOWOC, Wisconsin (AP) -- A man says he broke into an apartment 
> with a cavalry sword because he thought he heard a woman being raped, 
> but the sound actually was from a pornographic movie his upstairs 
> neighbor was watching.
> "Now I feel stupid," said James Van Iveren, who has been charged in 
> the case. "This really is nothing, nothing but a mistake."
> According to a criminal complaint, the neighbor told police that Van 
> Iveren pounded on the door and kicked it open without warning February 
> 12, damaging the frame and lock.
> "Where is she?" Van Iveren demanded, thrusting the sword at the 
> neighbor, the complaint said. "Where is she?"
> The neighbor told police Van Iveren became increasingly aggressive as 
> he repeated the question, insisting that he had heard a woman being 
> raped. The complaint said that, with the sword pointed at him, the 
> neighbor led Van Iveren throughout the apartment, opening closet doors 
> to prove he was alone.
> The neighbor later played for police the part of the DVD he believed 
> Van Iveren heard downstairs.
> The radio station WTMJ identified the neighbor as Bret Steighorst.
> Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, was charged with criminal trespass, 
> criminal damage and disorderly conduct, all while using a dangerous 
> weapon, and is sc

[scifinoir2] Re: WARNING: Two Years And Your TV Goes Black

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

>  Alexandria, Va. (WUSA) -- Exactly 2 years from this week, big changes are 
> coming to your TV.
>
> If you're one of the 34.5 million homes still getting your TV signal over the 
> old rabbit ears, your set is going dark.
>
> The F-C-C has ordered W*USA9 and every other broadcaster to shut off it's 
> analog signal and switch entirely to digital on February 17, 2009.
>
> At the Potomac Yards Best Buy in Alexandria, Manager Luis Castillo switches 
> off an old TV and says, "This is what you'll see on your screen-- black."
>
> What's amazing 2 years out, is that very few people realize they're going to 
> need to do something about that old TV.
>
> "If you don't have one of those boxes, sorry, you won't be able to watch TV," 
> says Castillo.
>
> If you have cable, or satellite TV, no worries, you'll be okay in the 
> upcoming digital conversion.
>
> But if you're watching free over-the-air TV on an analog set, even if it's 
> just in the spare room, you're either going to need to upgrade to a digital 
> TV, or you will have to get a digital to analog converter box which hasn't 
> even come out yet.
>
> But don't panic, the federal government promises to help. "The converter 
> boxes are expected to cost between $50 and $70," says Jonathan Collegio of 
> the National Association of Broadcasters. "And the coupon from the federal 
> government is about $40. So you're looking at a cost of about $10. But the 
> quality of the picture in digital is far superior to analog."
>
> One cool thing about the digital conversion, it makes those old rabbit ears 
> relevant again. At the Alexandria Best Buy, W*USA9's analog signal is fuzzy 
> and unwatchable. But switch to the digital signal on a new digital TV, and 
> you get crystal clear over-the-air TV with no cable or satellite bill.
>
> You can also skip the converter box and just wait for the deadline to buy a 
> new digital TV. "A TV you were buying last year for $4000, I guarantee you 
> can find it now in our stores for half that price," says Castillo.
>
> The F-C-C lent broadcasters extra spectrum to convert from analog to digital. 
> Now the feds want that spectrum back. Some of it will be used for homeland 
> security, and the rest is worth billions of dollars to private communications 
> companies.
>
>
>
>   


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[scifinoir2] [Fwd: The US psychological torture system is finally on trial]

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

 Original Message 
Subject:[latinosineducation] The US psychological torture system is 
finally on trial
Date:   Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:04:28 -0800
From:   Manuel Alcala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The US psychological torture system is finally on trial

America has deliberately driven hundreds, perhaps thousands, of
prisoners insane. Now it is being held to account in a Miami court

Naomi Klein
Friday February 23, 2007
The Guardian

Something remarkable is going on in a Miami courtroom. The cruel
methods US interrogators have used since September 11 to "break"
prisoners are finally being put on trial. This was not supposed to
happen. The Bush administration's plan was to put José Padilla on
trial for allegedly being part of a network linked to international
terrorists. But Padilla's lawyers are arguing that he is not fit to
stand trial because he has been driven insane by the government.

Arrested in May 2002 at Chicago's O'Hare airport, Padilla, a
Brooklyn-born former gang member, was classified as an "enemy
combatant" and taken to a navy prison in Charleston, South Carolina.
He was kept in a cell 9ft by 7ft, with no natural light, no clock and
no calendar. Whenever Padilla left the cell, he was shackled and
suited in heavy goggles and headphones. Padilla was kept under these
conditions for 1,307 days. He was forbidden contact with anyone but
his interrogators, who punctured the extreme sensory deprivation with
sensory overload, blasting him with harsh lights and pounding sounds.
Padilla also says he was injected with a "truth serum", a substance
his lawyers believe was LSD or PCP.

According to his lawyers and two mental health specialists who
examined him, Padilla has been so shattered that he lacks the ability
to assist in his own defence. He is convinced that his lawyers are
"part of a continuing interrogation program" and sees his captors as
protectors. In order to prove that "the extended torture visited upon
Mr Padilla has left him damaged", his lawyers want to tell the court
what happened during those years in the navy brig. The prosecution
strenuously objects, maintaining that "Padilla is competent" and that
his treatment is irrelevant.

The US district judge Marcia Cooke disagrees. "It's not like Mr
Padilla was living in a box. He was at a place. Things happened to him
at that place." The judge has ordered several prison employees to
testify on Padilla's mental state at the hearings, which began
yesterday. They will be asked how a man who is alleged to have engaged
in elaborate anti-government plots now acts, in the words of brig
staff, "like a piece of furniture".

It's difficult to overstate the significance of these hearings. The
techniques used to break Padilla have been standard operating
procedure at Guantánamo Bay since the first prisoners arrived five
years ago. They wore blackout goggles and sound-blocking headphones
and were placed in extended isolation, interrupted by strobe lights
and heavy metal music. These same practices have been documented in
dozens of cases of "extraordinary rendition" carried out by the CIA,
as well as in prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Many have suffered the same symptoms as Padilla. According to James
Yee, a former army Muslim chaplain at Guantánamo, there is an entire
section of the prison called Delta Block for detainees who have been
reduced to a delusional state. "They would respond to me in a
childlike voice, talking complete nonsense. Many of them would loudly
sing childish songs, repeating the song over and over." All the
inmates of Delta Block were on 24-hour suicide watch.

Human Rights Watch has exposed a US-run detention facility near Kabul
known as the "prison of darkness" - tiny pitch-black cells, strange
blaring sounds. "Plenty lost their minds," one former inmate recalled.
"I could hear people knocking their heads against the walls and the
doors."

These standard mind-breaking techniques have never faced scrutiny in
an American court because the prisoners in the jails are foreigners
and have been stripped of the right of habeas corpus - a denial that,
scandalously, was just upheld by a federal appeals court in Washington
DC. There is only one reason Padilla's case is different - he is a US
citizen. The administration did not originally intend to bring Padilla
to trial, but when his status as an enemy combatant faced a supreme
court challenge, the administration abruptly changed course, charging
Padilla and transferring him to civilian custody. That makes Padilla's
case unique - he is the only victim of the post-9/11 legal netherworld
to face an ordinary US trial.

Now that Padilla's mental state is the central issue in the case, the
government prosecutors are presented with a problem. The CIA and the
military have known since the early 1960s that extreme sensory
deprivation and sensory overload cause personality disintegration -
that's the whole point. "The deprivatio

Re: [scifinoir2] Tapping AKA Samantha Carter joins Atlantis Cast

[KeithBJohnson]

Great idea! I can just see Rodney being scared/attracted to Vala, and her 
laughing at his nerdy, fumbling attentions. She'd probably find him equal parts 
amusing and irritating. 

Don't know if you knew this, but the original drafts of the Atlantis plot 
called for Rodney McKay to be a Black man--older, of course. Can't have no 
young good looking brother as a genius, now can we?  The producers claimed they 
could never find an actor to fit the role. Wonder how the character would have 
played. I'm assuming the crush on Samantha would be gone

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Right, sorry, didn't get your meaning. And no, I doubt that her behavior would 
go over well in Atlantis. But Sam woul have a rival for Rodney's affections, no 
doubt. The writers should do it for that reason alone.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's right, but isn't Vala part of SG-1? I'm meaning 
I'd like to see her survive the SG-1 cancellation and move over to Atlantis, 
although Atlantis is more serious in the main than its predecessor. I wonder if 
her hijinx would go over with Elizabeth?

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
She is on the team. Last season, after the ep in which she lost her memory 
after being kidnapped by the remnants of the Trust, she managed to break up the 
last bit of the ring while addled. They gave her her unit patches at ep's end.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. I'd also love to see Vala (sp?)--played by 
Claudia Black--move over to the team. She really does a great mix of humour, 
sexiness, lovable treachery, and toughness. Versatile actress, given the change 
from her charcter on "Farscape".

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Daniel, IMO, should've been first into Atlantis. Common sense, since he did the 
work that found the location.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although i quickly tire of the "noble savage of 
color"--exhibited by T'elc and Teyla--I think I'd rather see T'elc join the 
Atlantis team than Carter. Or even Daniel Jackons. Absolutely nothing against 
Tapping, I just don't see her in that group either.

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith, re the "Paincauser Jane" series- that deal was in the books before the 
movie even aired. I kid you not. As for Carter joining Atlantis, I don't see 
that, unless they manage to dig up the AU Carter from the restart ep where SG-1 
went back to ancient Egypt, the geeky, awkward one. And I doubt that Rodney 
would see much in her. Most of his thing with Carter, IMO, is the fact that 
she's beautiful *and* his mental equal.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She and Rodney McKay--who loves her like mad--on the 
same show? Interesting. Wonder if she and O'Neal will *finally* get together 
before she flies off to the Pegasus Galaxy?

And what's with SciFi commissioning a "Painkiller Jane" series? The one movie I 
saw was nothing to write home about !

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Tapping Joins Atlantis Cast 
> 
> Stargate SG-1 star Amanda Tapping will join the cast of SCI FI Channel's 
> spinoff series Stargate Atlantis in that show's upcoming fourth season, 
> which commences in the fall, SCI FI announced. Tapping will reprise the 
> role of Lt. Col. Samantha Carter in Atlantis; she played the character 
> in the 10 seasons of SG-1, which goes off the air after completing the 
> final 10 episodes of the current 10th season, starting in April. 
> 
> Atlantis will resume production on the fourth season in Vancouver, 
> Canada, starting next month. Tapping will appear in 14 of Atlantis's 20 
> episodes. The new season will introduce a powerful new race and new cast 
> members and mark the loss of beloved friends. 
> 
> Meanwhile, Jewel Staite (Firefly, Serenity) returns to Atlantis and will 
> appear in eight episodes, reprising her role as Dr. Keller, a physician 
> who joins the Atlantis expedition. Staite previously appeared on the 
> series as Ellia, the Wraith child who was transformed into a human in 
> the season-two episode "Instinct." 
> 
> Season four of Stargate Atlantis will be executive-produced by Brad 
> Wright, Robert C. Cooper, Joseph Mallozzi and Paul Mullie. Mallozzi and 
> Mullie will share the reins as the series' show runners. 
> 
> The final episodes of Stargate SG-1 and the remainder of the third 
> season of Stargate Atlantis will air starting April 13, leading into the 
> series debut of Painkiller Jane. 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
> 
> 
> 

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

"There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get 
organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A 
Country"

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Re: [SPAM] [scifinoir2] OT: Man With Sword Mistakes Neighbor's Porn for Rape

[The Yokozuna Of Soul]

I  study swords,  and my  goal is to  reach  a level of expertise and  
gain enough experience to  teach. I study at a place in Charlotte  
where the Sensei is a 6th level Dan (www.budokanusa.com) Karate  is a  
beautiful art  and if that's what speaks to you,  definitely  go  
after it.  I started with Tai Chi originally  but found that I was  
able to express myself better through the sword. My teacher here at  
Budokan also suggested I take jujitsu along with basic sword kata.  
The combination has been great.  But for folks who tend to  lean more  
towards kung fu, I've seen that they really enjoy kendo. Plus, you  
can compete  in kendo,  whereas with live samurai blades...well, that  
would be a short  tournament.

I've been thinking since reading yours and Tracey's post that I may  
want to give fencing a try. It looks like fun, or at  least, Picard  
makes it look like fun.


On Feb 22, 2007, at 10:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Cool, thanks for the advice and the link. Where do you study this  
> art? Do you compete or teach it? Why it as opposed to things like  
> tae kwon do, aiki-jutsi, kempo karate, or Joe Corley All American  
> Karate? :)
>
> -- Original message --
> From: The Yokozuna Of Soul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> This is why this list is so great. I've studied tomaya-ryu iaido
> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyama-ryu ) for years now. You think
> finding Black folks into FENCING is hard? Try finding someone who's
> into (let alone advanced) in samurai arts. Might I suggest that you
> take up kendo? It gives you an all around training that is great for
> what you're looking for. True samurai tradition is to get
> proficient with anything...a stick, beer bottle, postage stamp, all
> deadly weapons. And then if there's nothing around, hand-to-hand
> whoopins.
>
> Daryle
>
> On Feb 22, 2007, at 2:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I loved everything about fencing: the drills, the balance and
> > finesse needed to wield the blade, the feeling when the blade and I
> > were more like one being than two separate things. I learned the
> > basics of sabre and epee fighting as well. I almost lean toward the
> > schools of Chinese kung fu philosophy that ability with weapons is
> > possibly more admirable than empty-hand fighting. Almost. When I
> > *finally* get around to taking martial arts, one of my main goals
> > is to become proficient with bladed weapons--knives as well as
> > swords--and especially, a staff.
> >
> > -- Original message --
> > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > I fenced in high school and a little in college too! There are so
> > few
> > > Black fencing enthusiasts, I always get excited with I meet one.
> > >
> > > Tracey
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Although I joke about him carrying a sword--and as someone who
> > fenced
> > > > in college and owns a foil, I can't talk--speaking personally,
> > if Man
> > > > must bear weapons I'd prefer swords to guns. Sure, the idea of
> > a guy
> > > > getting skewered in the gut is disturbing, but so is the sight
> > of a
> > > > hollow point entering same gut--and the exit wound it leaves.
> > And I
> > > > know the images of recent years of some of our African brothers
> > > > literally hacking each other to death with machetes might give
> > some
> > > > pause. But I contend that's nothing compared to the sight of
> > men too
> > > > young to drive, spraying hundreds of bullets indiscriminately:
> > boys
> > > > literally wielding the power of small armies. At least with  
> bladed
> > > > weapons you have to get up close and personal, and the  
> collateral
> > > > damage is kept to a minimum. And a potential victim might  
> stand a
> > > > better chance defending himself against a sword-wielding maniac
> > than a
> > > > hail of bullets.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps we should all became modern-day Don Quixotes like this
> > guy,
> > > > wearing blades on our sides, carrying out ritual combat with
> > rules.
> > > > Maybe the Crips and Bloods and other gangs should settle their
> > > > problems with their leaders dueling at dawn. Maybe if people
> > had to
> > > > fight duels with agreed-upon weapons and seconds standing at the
> > > > ready, a bit of civilization would come back to warfare? Yeah,
> > right
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Sword seized after man mistakes porn for rape
> > > > OCONOMOWOC, Wisconsin (AP) -- A man says he broke into an
> > apartment
> > > > with a cavalry sword because he thought he heard a woman being
> > raped,
> > > > but the sound actually was from a pornographic movie his  
> upstairs
> > > > neighbor was watching.
> > > > "Now I feel stupid," said James Van Iveren, who has been
> > charged in
> > > > the case. "This really is nothing, nothing but a mistake."
> > > > According to a criminal complaint, the neighbor told police

[scifinoir2] [Fwd: Nation's largest milk company rejects cloned cows]

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

 Original Message 
Subject:Nation's largest milk company rejects cloned cows
Date:   Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:05:26 -0600
From:   Cath K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:   GIRLFRIEND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

WASHINGTON — Milk from cloned cows is not welcome at the nation's biggest

milk company.

Although the government has approved meat and milk from cloned animals
while it conducts further studies, Dean Foods Co. of Dallas said Thursday
that its customers and consumers don't want milk from cloned animals. The
$10 billion company owns Land O'Lakes and Horizon Organic, among dozens of
other brands.

"Numerous surveys have shown that Americans are not interested in buying
dairy products that contain milk from cloned cows and Dean Foods is
responding to the needs of our consumers," the company said in a statement.

Federal scientists say there is virtually no difference between clones and
conventional cows, pigs or goats. The Food and Drug Administration in
December gave preliminary approval to meat and milk from cloned animals and
could grant final approval by year's end.

The government has asked producers to voluntarily keep clones away from the
food supply until final approval is granted.

Smaller companies such as Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream and Organic Valley
previously have said they oppose milk from clones.

Milk companies worry that concern over cloning could turn people away from
dairy products. So far, public opinion appears mixed.

A September poll by the Pew Initiative on Food and Biotechnology found that
64 percent of respondents were uncomfortable with animal cloning. A
December poll by the University of Maryland found that the same percentage
would buy, or consider buying, such food if the government said it was
safe.

Dean Foods spokeswoman Marguerite Copel said the company respects the FDA,
"but we've got a customer and consumer base."

Dean Foods' cloning policy was first reported by the blog
www.chewswise.com.

The company did not say whether it would use milk from the offspring of
cloned animals. Cloning companies say the purpose of cloning is not to put
many cloned livestock into the food supply. Instead, the goal is to make a
genetic copy of a superior animal and then put its offspring into the food
supply.





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Re: [SPAM] [scifinoir2] OT: Man With Sword Mistakes Neighbor's Porn for Rape

[Martin]

It's a big-a$$ blade, averaging five to six feet in length. You have to use it 
more as a staff than a blade, clubbing opponents into submission as much as 
stabbing them. I tried to take it up back when I worked, had a little success 
until my wrists started giving out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  which is the hand-and-a-half sword? I 
recently found agreat website on swords, and a cheap book about them on sell at 
Borders, but haven't dived into either yet

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Just flimsy things. I could manage them when I was a little shorter (back when 
I was a paltry 6'2" or so), but when I passed 6'4"...

And, if I could, I'd take up the hand-and-a-half sword, because it would fit 
well with the training I've had in JKT and aikido.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What happened to your wrists?
If given a choice of a weapon to use, what type of sword would you go with? A 
katana sword, a European broadsword, a curved sword similar to those used by 
the Monguls or the Arabs, what?
Ever watch the series "Highlander"? Even though the fights were of course 
stylized for TV, I loved the battles between McLeod and his Japanese sword and 
all the other immortals and their blades. 

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I love swords, too, always preferred them over guns, but I don't have the wrist 
strength for it anymore.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
fenced in high school and a little in college too! There are so few 
Black fencing enthusiasts, I always get excited with I meet one. 

Tracey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
> Although I joke about him carrying a sword--and as someone who fenced 
> in college and owns a foil, I can't talk--speaking personally, if Man 
> must bear weapons I'd prefer swords to guns. Sure, the idea of a guy 
> getting skewered in the gut is disturbing, but so is the sight of a 
> hollow point entering same gut--and the exit wound it leaves. And I 
> know the images of recent years of some of our African brothers 
> literally hacking each other to death with machetes might give some 
> pause. But I contend that's nothing compared to the sight of men too 
> young to drive, spraying hundreds of bullets indiscriminately: boys 
> literally wielding the power of small armies. At least with bladed 
> weapons you have to get up close and personal, and the collateral 
> damage is kept to a minimum. And a potential victim might stand a 
> better chance defending himself against a sword-wielding maniac than a 
> hail of bullets.
>
> Perhaps we should all became modern-day Don Quixotes like this guy, 
> wearing blades on our sides, carrying out ritual combat with rules. 
> Maybe the Crips and Bloods and other gangs should settle their 
> problems with their leaders dueling at dawn. Maybe if people had to 
> fight duels with agreed-upon weapons and seconds standing at the 
> ready, a bit of civilization would come back to warfare? Yeah, right
>
> 
> Sword seized after man mistakes porn for rape
> OCONOMOWOC, Wisconsin (AP) -- A man says he broke into an apartment 
> with a cavalry sword because he thought he heard a woman being raped, 
> but the sound actually was from a pornographic movie his upstairs 
> neighbor was watching.
> "Now I feel stupid," said James Van Iveren, who has been charged in 
> the case. "This really is nothing, nothing but a mistake."
> According to a criminal complaint, the neighbor told police that Van 
> Iveren pounded on the door and kicked it open without warning February 
> 12, damaging the frame and lock.
> "Where is she?" Van Iveren demanded, thrusting the sword at the 
> neighbor, the complaint said. "Where is she?"
> The neighbor told police Van Iveren became increasingly aggressive as 
> he repeated the question, insisting that he had heard a woman being 
> raped. The complaint said that, with the sword pointed at him, the 
> neighbor led Van Iveren throughout the apartment, opening closet doors 
> to prove he was alone.
> The neighbor later played for police the part of the DVD he believed 
> Van Iveren heard downstairs.
> The radio station WTMJ identified the neighbor as Bret Steighorst.
> Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, was charged with criminal trespass, 
> criminal damage and disorderly conduct, all while using a dangerous 
> weapon, and is scheduled to appear in court March 5. Together, the 
> misdemeanor counts carry a maximum sentence of 33 months in jail.
> Van Iveren said Tuesday that he heard a woman "screaming for help," 
> grabbed the sword, bounded up the stairs, kicked in the apartment door 
> and confronted the man who lived there.
> "I intended to hold it behind my back and knock. But I froze and 
> instead, what happened happened," he told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
> Contesting his neighbor's account, Van Iveren said he didn't look 
> anywhe

RE: [scifinoir2] Woman Sentenced to Two Years for 'McMissile' (or Mebbe Not)

[Martin]

As long as she gets help, that's all that matters. I wonder if our Esteemed 
Guv'mint plans on getting her any help. I mean, her husband's *only* risking 
life and limb in a useless war for oil reserves...

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Now THAT is more 
reasonable...

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
ravenadal
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:56 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Woman Sentenced to Two Years for 'McMissile' (or Mebbe 
Not)

Today's Chicago Tribune (February 23, 2007) article says in its entirety:

STAFFORD - A woman who hurled a cup of ice into a car that cut her off
in traffic was sentenced to probation Wednesday.

Jessica Hall, 25, COULD have gotten 2 years behind bars after being
convicted last month of maliciously throwing a missile into an
occupied vehicle on Interstate 25 in July. 

Hall has been in jail since Jan. 4. Thought she was ordered free on
the Virginia charges, she remained held there on a Mississippi warrant
on suspicion of writing bad checks.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com, "Tracey 
de Morsella (formerly
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Throwing Cup of Ice Into a Car That Cut Her Off Lands Mother of
Three in 
> Prison
> 
> Feb. 20, 2007 â€"
> A mother of three was sentenced to two years in prison for throwing a 
> cup of ice through the window of a car that cut her off in traffic.
> 
> Jessica Hall, a North Carolina mother, drove down I-95 on a hot, sticky 
> and gridlocked day with three kids whimpering in the back of the car, a 
> pregnant sister in the front of the car and her husband serving his 
> third tour of duty in Iraq.
> 
> Suddenly, the same car cut in front of Hall twice, and it was more than 
> she could take. She snapped.
> 
> She tossed a large McDonald's cup filled with ice through the window of 
> the other car.
> 
> "It was a dumb decision to do what I did," Hall said later.
> 
> Hall's outburst didn't do any real damage, but it did land her in
prison 
> with a two-year sentence.
> 
> "I had to drop everything, all my life, my kids, everything," Hall said.
> 
> Her three kids are living with relatives until her husband gets back 
> from Iraq.
> 
> "It's tearing the family apart. You know, we're holding on by really 
> thin threads," said Jesse Hall, the woman's father. "One of the little 
> girls asked that question 'is my momma coming home?' and I say soon."
> 
> Does the punishment fit the crime?
> 
> "What's disturbing about this case is the real lack of proportionality 
> in the sentencing," Court TV's Lisa Bloom said. "Two years in prison, 
> two years for her kids not to have a parent. That seems unduly harsh."
> 
> Even the occupants of the other car â€" sticky and angry at the time
â€" are 
> shocked at the final sentence.
> 
> But the prosecutor argued that the cup was a missile and could have 
> caused major damage.
> 
> "But I'm sure prosecutors want to send a message by saying acts of road 
> rage are unacceptable," Bloom said. "They're violent, they cause 
> injuries and it's going to stop right here with this case."
>

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Re: [scifinoir2] Tapping AKA Samantha Carter joins Atlantis Cast

[Martin]

Right, sorry, didn't get your meaning. And no, I doubt that her behavior would 
go over well in Atlantis. But Sam woul have a rival for Rodney's affections, no 
doubt. The writers should do it for that reason alone.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  That's right, but isn't Vala part of SG-1? 
I'm meaning I'd like to see her survive the SG-1 cancellation and move over to 
Atlantis, although Atlantis is more serious in the main than its predecessor. I 
wonder if her hijinx would go over with Elizabeth?

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
She is on the team. Last season, after the ep in which she lost her memory 
after being kidnapped by the remnants of the Trust, she managed to break up the 
last bit of the ring while addled. They gave her her unit patches at ep's end.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed. I'd also love to see Vala (sp?)--played by 
Claudia Black--move over to the team. She really does a great mix of humour, 
sexiness, lovable treachery, and toughness. Versatile actress, given the change 
from her charcter on "Farscape".

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Daniel, IMO, should've been first into Atlantis. Common sense, since he did the 
work that found the location.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although i quickly tire of the "noble savage of 
color"--exhibited by T'elc and Teyla--I think I'd rather see T'elc join the 
Atlantis team than Carter. Or even Daniel Jackons. Absolutely nothing against 
Tapping, I just don't see her in that group either.

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith, re the "Paincauser Jane" series- that deal was in the books before the 
movie even aired. I kid you not. As for Carter joining Atlantis, I don't see 
that, unless they manage to dig up the AU Carter from the restart ep where SG-1 
went back to ancient Egypt, the geeky, awkward one. And I doubt that Rodney 
would see much in her. Most of his thing with Carter, IMO, is the fact that 
she's beautiful *and* his mental equal.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She and Rodney McKay--who loves her like mad--on the 
same show? Interesting. Wonder if she and O'Neal will *finally* get together 
before she flies off to the Pegasus Galaxy?

And what's with SciFi commissioning a "Painkiller Jane" series? The one movie I 
saw was nothing to write home about !

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Tapping Joins Atlantis Cast 
> 
> Stargate SG-1 star Amanda Tapping will join the cast of SCI FI Channel's 
> spinoff series Stargate Atlantis in that show's upcoming fourth season, 
> which commences in the fall, SCI FI announced. Tapping will reprise the 
> role of Lt. Col. Samantha Carter in Atlantis; she played the character 
> in the 10 seasons of SG-1, which goes off the air after completing the 
> final 10 episodes of the current 10th season, starting in April. 
> 
> Atlantis will resume production on the fourth season in Vancouver, 
> Canada, starting next month. Tapping will appear in 14 of Atlantis's 20 
> episodes. The new season will introduce a powerful new race and new cast 
> members and mark the loss of beloved friends. 
> 
> Meanwhile, Jewel Staite (Firefly, Serenity) returns to Atlantis and will 
> appear in eight episodes, reprising her role as Dr. Keller, a physician 
> who joins the Atlantis expedition. Staite previously appeared on the 
> series as Ellia, the Wraith child who was transformed into a human in 
> the season-two episode "Instinct." 
> 
> Season four of Stargate Atlantis will be executive-produced by Brad 
> Wright, Robert C. Cooper, Joseph Mallozzi and Paul Mullie. Mallozzi and 
> Mullie will share the reins as the series' show runners. 
> 
> The final episodes of Stargate SG-1 and the remainder of the third 
> season of Stargate Atlantis will air starting April 13, leading into the 
> series debut of Painkiller Jane. 
> 
> 
> 
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