[scifinoir2] Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys
Absurd Vaccine Marketing -- Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys School-age boys are now being advised to get vaccinated with Gardasil, Merck’s cervical cancer vaccine, according to mainstream media reports. Previously, the vaccine was only recommended for girls. The new male recommendation is based on the notion that boys could get throat cancer if they have oral sex with an HPV-infected girl. According to some, however, recommending Gardasil to boys is little more than a scare campaign aimed at gaining market share from teenage boys. Even the advice to give mandatory Gardasil vaccinations to young girls is simply disease mongering designed to sell vaccines. This is because girls who have HPV do not automatically get cervical cancer. Girls who have healthy immune systems, and who lead healthy lifestyles, have little risk of developing cervical cancer from HPV. It is only girls who have compromised immune systems that may be vulnerable. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/09/18/absurd-vaccine-marketing-cervical-cancer-vaccinations-for-boys.aspx
[scifinoir2] Baboon adopts chicken at zoo
VILNIUS (Reuters) - A lonely baboon in a private Lithuanian zoo has adopted a chicken he saved from certain death last month and the two have formed a fast friendship, the zoo's director said Friday. ADVERTISEMENT The chicken was intended as food for other animals in the zoo, but escaped and was sheltered by Mitis, a six-year-old Hamadryas Baboon, Edvardas Legeckas, who runs the zoo near the port city Klaipeda in western Lithuania, told Reuters. Mitis has been fed chicken meat before, but this time he fell in love with his food, Legeckas said. He plays with the chicken, cleans its feathers, sleeps with it, and takes care as if it was his own baby child, the zoo director said. But I am not sure how long this affair would last, because baboon may finally realize this is food. Baboons, with their distinctive long dog-like muzzles and heavy powerful jaws, are omnivorous, but usually prefer fruit. In the wild, they live in close-knit social groups. Obviously this baboon needed someone to communicate with, the director said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070917/od_nm/lithuania_chicken_dc_1;_ylt=AhumpltBybVrh_Nu.NNd9oME1vAI Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Censorship and Delayed Yahoo Posts
Have you guys noticed that your posts are appearing hours after send them? In the past they would be posted instantly. It was almost like instant messaging. Recently I read that certain liberal newsletters were being filtered and put in spam or bulk mail folders of people with yahoo, MSN or hotmail accounts. Since September 7 it is almost impossible to subscribe and receive these newsletters. From what understand, if you try to click on the link to the offending site via a past email, you will not be taken to the site itself, but the site of your email host. This and our experience of a few years ago leads me to believe our messages are being delayed so they can filter our emails for some type of censorship. Am I being paranoid? Hopefully, this will post before tomorrow Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Censorship and Delayed Yahoo Posts
I notice it all the day, but curiously, it seems to happen to me mostly on weekends, especially Friday and Saturday nights. It's not based on content, from what I can tell, as my posts on cartoons and TV shows get delayed as often as my more inflammatory ones on politics. I've attributed to the mail system hiccupping, but is there more to it? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you guys noticed that your posts are appearing hours after send them? In the past they would be posted instantly. It was almost like instant messaging. Recently I read that certain liberal newsletters were being filtered and put in spam or bulk mail folders of people with yahoo, MSN or hotmail accounts. Since September 7 it is almost impossible to subscribe and receive these newsletters. From what understand, if you try to click on the link to the offending site via a past email, you will not be taken to the site itself, but the site of your email host. This and our experience of a few years ago leads me to believe our messages are being delayed so they can filter our emails for some type of censorship. Am I being paranoid? Hopefully, this will post before tomorrow Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys
I'm gonna have to call a couple of my exes on this. Both are doctors. Off the top, sounds fishy, on a par with the HPV vaccination for girls last year. Or was that earlier this year? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absurd Vaccine Marketing -- Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys School-age boys are now being advised to get vaccinated with Gardasil, Merckâs cervical cancer vaccine, according to mainstream media reports. Previously, the vaccine was only recommended for girls. The new male recommendation is based on the notion that boys could get throat cancer if they have oral sex with an HPV-infected girl. According to some, however, recommending Gardasil to boys is little more than a scare campaign aimed at gaining market share from teenage boys. Even the advice to give mandatory Gardasil vaccinations to young girls is simply disease mongering designed to sell vaccines. This is because girls who have HPV do not automatically get cervical cancer. Girls who have healthy immune systems, and who lead healthy lifestyles, have little risk of developing cervical cancer from HPV. It is only girls who have compromised immune systems that may be vulnerable. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/09/18/absurd-vaccine-marketing-cervical-cancer-vaccinations-for-boys.aspx There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Censorship and Delayed Yahoo Posts
Sometimes, my posts lag. Others, I get almost instantaneous kickback on. And the liberal filtering has been going on at Microsoft-in-the-Head-Central for *years*. It's why I dumped the accounts I had with them back in the 90s. Place is GOP Central now. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you guys noticed that your posts are appearing hours after send them? In the past they would be posted instantly. It was almost like instant messaging. Recently I read that certain liberal newsletters were being filtered and put in spam or bulk mail folders of people with yahoo, MSN or hotmail accounts. Since September 7 it is almost impossible to subscribe and receive these newsletters. From what understand, if you try to click on the link to the offending site via a past email, you will not be taken to the site itself, but the site of your email host. This and our experience of a few years ago leads me to believe our messages are being delayed so they can filter our emails for some type of censorship. Am I being paranoid? Hopefully, this will post before tomorrow Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Censorship and Delayed Yahoo Posts
I put *nothing* past Yahu. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice it all the day, but curiously, it seems to happen to me mostly on weekends, especially Friday and Saturday nights. It's not based on content, from what I can tell, as my posts on cartoons and TV shows get delayed as often as my more inflammatory ones on politics. I've attributed to the mail system hiccupping, but is there more to it? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you guys noticed that your posts are appearing hours after send them? In the past they would be posted instantly. It was almost like instant messaging. Recently I read that certain liberal newsletters were being filtered and put in spam or bulk mail folders of people with yahoo, MSN or hotmail accounts. Since September 7 it is almost impossible to subscribe and receive these newsletters. From what understand, if you try to click on the link to the offending site via a past email, you will not be taken to the site itself, but the site of your email host. This and our experience of a few years ago leads me to believe our messages are being delayed so they can filter our emails for some type of censorship. Am I being paranoid? Hopefully, this will post before tomorrow Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Dole lettuce recalled in U.S., Canada
Well, I'm not too worried, because I'm not sick yet. With my health as it is, food poisoning tends to pop up quickly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see it tied to a particular store so Kroger might have had the bad batch as well as Publix or anyone else. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, crap. I polished off a head of Dole yesterday, and I tossed the packaging. Was any of this sold at Kroger, Keith? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dole lettuce recalled in U.S., Canada By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 19 minutes ago A division of Dole Food Co. issued an international recall of bagged salad Monday after a sample taken from a store in Canada tested positive for E. coli, the company said. There have been no reports of illness, company officials said. The voluntary recall affects all packages of Dole's Hearts Delight salad mix sold in the United States and Canada with a best if used by date of September 19, 2007, and a production code of A24924A or A24924B, Dole said. The product was sold in Ontario, Quebec and the Maritime Provinces in Canada and in Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Michigan, Mississippi, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and neighboring U.S. states starting the weekend before last, said Marty Ordman, a Dole spokesman. The romaine, green leaf and butter lettuce hearts that went into the blend were grown in California, Colorado and Ohio, then processed at Dole's plant in Springfield, Ohio on Sept. 6, according to Ordman. Eighty-eight cases were distributed in Canada and 755 cases in the U.S., he said. The company's move came a day after the Canadian Food Inspection Agency warned consumers not to eat Hearts Delight. Our overriding concern is for consumer safety, Eric Schwartz, president of the Dole Fresh Vegetable division said in a statement. He said the company was working with U.S. and Canadian health agencies, as well as those in various states. The Food and Drug Administration was talking with Westlake Village, Calif.-based Dole about the situation, agency spokesman Michael Herndon said. The Canadian agency said it would be looking to find out at what point the salad blend, which is imported into Canada, became contaminated and to see if any other products are affected, spokesman Garfield Balsom said. Last year, an E. coli outbreak traced to bagged baby spinach was blamed for the deaths of three people and for sickening hundreds more across the U.S. State and federal authorities ultimately identified a central California cattle ranch next to spinach fields belonging to one of Dole's suppliers as being the source of the bacteria. Food contaminated with this strain of E. coli may not look or smell spoiled but health officials say the bacteria can cause life-threatening illnesses. Symptoms include severe abdominal pain and bloody diarrhea; some people can have seizures or strokes and some may need blood transfusions and kidney dialysis, while others may live with permanent kidney damage. ___ Associated Press writer Rob Gillies in Toronto and Andrew Bridges in Washington contributed to this report. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] ...and Killer Rats
Licensing issues (read money). It's also tied up the release of any eps on DVD. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why doesn't SciFi air MST3K? i'd love to watch the old reruns, even -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Killer Shrews *was* done on MST3K, third season if memory serves. Haven't seen Food of the Gods in forever. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Talking about all these bad films and killer rabbits got me thinking bout two classics of bad scifi cinema dealing with giant killer rats. I submit for your approval The Killer Shrews and The Food of the Gods. These movies are so bad you have to laugh. Tracey, just reading these reviews I found online made me laugh out loud, especially the dogs wearing carpet remnants line! If these pics come on tV, nothing more i like to do than sit down with friends and laugh my a off at them. They're perfect fodder for MST3000. Again, they're good camp, which the new SciFi Originals can't usually say. Read these short review, and *please* go to the links (especially BadMovies.org, which has quite a list of bad flicks), and check out some pictures! Freakin' hilarious!!! The Killer Shrews Summary: A disparate group are trapped on a remote island by a hurricane. On the island, a doctor works to make humans twice as small as we already are. This, apparently, will help prevent over population. Unfortunately, his experiments have also created some giant shrews. As the shrews run out of smaller animals to eat, they move in on the people in the house. Review: http://www.badmovies.org/movies/killershrews/ Excellent piece of vintage schlock in a tidy package, the movie only runs about seventy minutes. Thorne and Rook are delivering supplies to the island research center (Who am I kidding, it's an adobe house with a tall wooden palisade around part of it.) run by Dr. Craigis when a hurricane looms near. The good captain decides to weather the storm ashore, despite the doctor wanting him to unload immediately and then depart with Ann. Thorne is a little confused by all this hubbub until Ann breaks down and tells him that the island is infested by several hundred DOGS WEARING CARPET REMNANTS! (Hehehe! Okay, she really said Giant Shrews.) And this guy immediately believes her, another prime example of men acting like morons around blonde Swedish women. Hey, in this case it saved his life, maybe it's a natural survival instinct... ...ahm. With so many shrews running around the island's natural food supply is nearly exhausted and they begin eating people. This is bad, soon the characters are battling for their lives as shrews burrow through the walls. Once the cast has thinned out a bit Thorne creates a tank from empty drums and the remaining actors make a desperate run for the ship. I shouldn't have to explain how funny it is to watch somebody scream in terror at a Collie wearing carpet remnants. The pooch is obviously doing the happy dog and expecting a belly rub in half these scenes, it's just good stuff. *** The Food of the Gods Summary: Morgan and his friends are on a hunting trip on a remote Canadian island when they are attacked by a swarm of giant wasps. Looking for help, Morgan stumbles across a barn inhabited by an enormous killer chicken. After doing some exploring, they discover the entire island is crawling with animals that have somehow grown to giant size. The most dangerous of all of these, however, are the rats, who are mobilizing to do battle with the human intruders. Review excerpt: http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/f/food-of-the-gods.html Even if you've never thought about what you might do if faced with predatory giant rats, rest assured that you would probably handle the situation with more aplomb than the characters do in this dreary movie. Morgan races around the island concocting ridiculous schemes to kill the oversized rodents, including electrocution, drowning, homemade bombs, etc. He's kind of like MacGyver, only his inventions aren't that clever and he's played by a never-was actor... okay, he's exactly like MacGyver. But when push comes to shove Morgan finds comfort in a magically auto-reloading shotgun. Someone alert Charlton Heston! And amazingly, he even has an arch-enemy in the personage (ratonage?) of an albino rodent that is apparently leading the rat swarm telepathically. We call him Moe, because Moe is their leader. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners.
RE: [scifinoir2] Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys
The HPV vaccine controversy/Merck Money Grab was earlier this year. It was interesting to note that the several deaths and life-threatening reactions attributed to the vaccine over the summer were not reported with anything approaching the raging furor that this vaccine was touted as a “miracle” vaccine earlier in the year. From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:41 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys I'm gonna have to call a couple of my exes on this. Both are doctors. Off the top, sounds fishy, on a par with the HPV vaccination for girls last year. Or was that earlier this year? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Absurd Vaccine Marketing -- Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys School-age boys are now being advised to get vaccinated with Gardasil, Merck’s cervical cancer vaccine, according to mainstream media reports. Previously, the vaccine was only recommended for girls. The new male recommendation is based on the notion that boys could get throat cancer if they have oral sex with an HPV-infected girl. According to some, however, recommending Gardasil to boys is little more than a scare campaign aimed at gaining market share from teenage boys. Even the advice to give mandatory Gardasil vaccinations to young girls is simply disease mongering designed to sell vaccines. This is because girls who have HPV do not automatically get cervical cancer. Girls who have healthy immune systems, and who lead healthy lifestyles, have little risk of developing cervical cancer from HPV. It is only girls who have compromised immune systems that may be vulnerable. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/09/18/absurd-vaccine-marketing-cervical-cancer-vaccinations-for-boys.aspx There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys
And isn't that scary? James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The HPV vaccine controversy/Merck Money Grab was earlier this year. It was interesting to note that the several deaths and life-threatening reactions attributed to the vaccine over the summer were not reported with anything approaching the raging furor that this vaccine was touted as a âmiracleâ vaccine earlier in the year. From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:41 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys I'm gonna have to call a couple of my exes on this. Both are doctors. Off the top, sounds fishy, on a par with the HPV vaccination for girls last year. Or was that earlier this year? Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Absurd Vaccine Marketing -- Cervical Cancer Vaccinations for Boys School-age boys are now being advised to get vaccinated with Gardasil, Merckââ¬â¢s cervical cancer vaccine, according to mainstream media reports. Previously, the vaccine was only recommended for girls. The new male recommendation is based on the notion that boys could get throat cancer if they have oral sex with an HPV-infected girl. According to some, however, recommending Gardasil to boys is little more than a scare campaign aimed at gaining market share from teenage boys. Even the advice to give mandatory Gardasil vaccinations to young girls is simply disease mongering designed to sell vaccines. This is because girls who have HPV do not automatically get cervical cancer. Girls who have healthy immune systems, and who lead healthy lifestyles, have little risk of developing cervical cancer from HPV. It is only girls who have compromised immune systems that may be vulnerable. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/09/18/absurd-vaccine-marketing-cervical-cancer-vaccinations-for-boys.aspx There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Dole lettuce recalled in U.S., Canada
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm not too worried, because I'm not sick yet. With my health as it is, food poisoning tends to pop up quickly. Further bit I just picked up off Yahoo. http://www.dole.com/CompanyInfo/SafeSalad/LatestNews_PR.jsp I'm off the hook. The recall is for nine U.S. states. Can't remember them offhand, but it's in the bulletin. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see it tied to a particular store so Kroger might have had the bad batch as well as Publix or anyone else. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, crap. I polished off a head of Dole yesterday, and I tossed the packaging. Was any of this sold at Kroger, Keith? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dole lettuce recalled in U.S., Canada By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 19 minutes ago A division of Dole Food Co. issued an international recall of bagged salad Monday after a sample taken from a store in Canada tested positive for E. coli, the company said. There have been no reports of illness, company officials said. The voluntary recall affects all packages of Dole's Hearts Delight salad mix sold in the United States and Canada with a best if used by date of September 19, 2007, and a production code of A24924A or A24924B, Dole said. The product was sold in Ontario, Quebec and the Maritime Provinces in Canada and in Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Michigan, Mississippi, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and neighboring U.S. states starting the weekend before last, said Marty Ordman, a Dole spokesman. The romaine, green leaf and butter lettuce hearts that went into the blend were grown in California, Colorado and Ohio, then processed at Dole's plant in Springfield, Ohio on Sept. 6, according to Ordman. Eighty-eight cases were distributed in Canada and 755 cases in the U.S., he said. The company's move came a day after the Canadian Food Inspection Agency warned consumers not to eat Hearts Delight. Our overriding concern is for consumer safety, Eric Schwartz, president of the Dole Fresh Vegetable division said in a statement. He said the company was working with U.S. and Canadian health agencies, as well as those in various states. The Food and Drug Administration was talking with Westlake Village, Calif.-based Dole about the situation, agency spokesman Michael Herndon said. The Canadian agency said it would be looking to find out at what point the salad blend, which is imported into Canada, became contaminated and to see if any other products are affected, spokesman Garfield Balsom said. Last year, an E. coli outbreak traced to bagged baby spinach was blamed for the deaths of three people and for sickening hundreds more across the U.S. State and federal authorities ultimately identified a central California cattle ranch next to spinach fields belonging to one of Dole's suppliers as being the source of the bacteria. Food contaminated with this strain of E. coli may not look or smell spoiled but health officials say the bacteria can cause life-threatening illnesses. Symptoms include severe abdominal pain and bloody diarrhea; some people can have seizures or strokes and some may need blood transfusions and kidney dialysis, while others may live with permanent kidney damage. ___ Associated Press writer Rob Gillies in Toronto and Andrew Bridges in Washington contributed to this report. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Dole lettuce recalled in U.S., Canada
Oh, crap, no I'm *not* off the hook. Neighboring states, and Tennessee is just north of me... Martin Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'm not too worried, because I'm not sick yet. With my health as it is, food poisoning tends to pop up quickly. Further bit I just picked up off Yahoo. http://www.dole.com/CompanyInfo/SafeSalad/LatestNews_PR.jsp I'm off the hook. The recall is for nine U.S. states. Can't remember them offhand, but it's in the bulletin. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see it tied to a particular store so Kroger might have had the bad batch as well as Publix or anyone else. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, crap. I polished off a head of Dole yesterday, and I tossed the packaging. Was any of this sold at Kroger, Keith? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dole lettuce recalled in U.S., Canada By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer1 hour, 19 minutes ago A division of Dole Food Co. issued an international recall of bagged salad Monday after a sample taken from a store in Canada tested positive for E. coli, the company said. There have been no reports of illness, company officials said. The voluntary recall affects all packages of Dole's Hearts Delight salad mix sold in the United States and Canada with a best if used by date of September 19, 2007, and a production code of A24924A or A24924B, Dole said. The product was sold in Ontario, Quebec and the Maritime Provinces in Canada and in Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Michigan, Mississippi, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee and neighboring U.S. states starting the weekend before last, said Marty Ordman, a Dole spokesman. The romaine, green leaf and butter lettuce hearts that went into the blend were grown in California, Colorado and Ohio, then processed at Dole's plant in Springfield, Ohio on Sept. 6, according to Ordman. Eighty-eight cases were distributed in Canada and 755 cases in the U.S., he said. The company's move came a day after the Canadian Food Inspection Agency warned consumers not to eat Hearts Delight. Our overriding concern is for consumer safety, Eric Schwartz, president of the Dole Fresh Vegetable division said in a statement. He said the company was working with U.S. and Canadian health agencies, as well as those in various states. The Food and Drug Administration was talking with Westlake Village, Calif.-based Dole about the situation, agency spokesman Michael Herndon said. The Canadian agency said it would be looking to find out at what point the salad blend, which is imported into Canada, became contaminated and to see if any other products are affected, spokesman Garfield Balsom said. Last year, an E. coli outbreak traced to bagged baby spinach was blamed for the deaths of three people and for sickening hundreds more across the U.S. State and federal authorities ultimately identified a central California cattle ranch next to spinach fields belonging to one of Dole's suppliers as being the source of the bacteria. Food contaminated with this strain of E. coli may not look or smell spoiled but health officials say the bacteria can cause life-threatening illnesses. Symptoms include severe abdominal pain and bloody diarrhea; some people can have seizures or strokes and some may need blood transfusions and kidney dialysis, while others may live with permanent kidney damage. ___ Associated Press writer Rob Gillies in Toronto and Andrew Bridges in Washington contributed to this report. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
Keith, since when did such trivialities as continuity mean jack-spit to those H'Wood boys? This may have been posted at some time in the past, but I found this recently. It's Joe Strazyncki's (sp?) reboot of Trek. Here's hoping it posts... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
Can¹t take place on the Enterprise. Most of these people didn¹t serve on the ship until Pike left, and Chekov was the last to come aboard. This must take place at the academy or some post academy training base. It¹s sounding like it¹s the story of how they all met one another in their youth. What would be a shame is if it¹s a bunch of one off stories describing everyone in their youth, like the TNG episode about Picard and his heart. On 9/18/07 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
Didn't get your posting, but got your point... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith, since when did such trivialities as continuity mean jack-spit to those H'Wood boys? This may have been posted at some time in the past, but I found this recently. It's Joe Strazyncki's (sp?) reboot of Trek. Here's hoping it posts... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
You guys assume they are going to stick with the story, timelines and profiles that we know. Even the series that involved Roddenberry and Berman did not always do that. Enterprise is playing on scifi channel and I notice them playing fast and loose with Trek History all the time Daryle wrote: Can¹t take place on the Enterprise. Most of these people didn¹t serve on the ship until Pike left, and Chekov was the last to come aboard. This must take place at the academy or some post academy training base. It¹s sounding like it¹s the story of how they all met one another in their youth. What would be a shame is if it¹s a bunch of one off stories describing everyone in their youth, like the TNG episode about Picard and his heart. On 9/18/07 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Original Message Subject:The top 10 big stories the US news media missed in the past year Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:26:00 -0500 From: Susan Smith Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Censored! /The top 10 big stories the US news media missed in the past year/ By Amanda Witherell 1. GOOD-BYE, HABEAS CORPUS The Military Commissions Act, passed in September 2006 as a last gasp of the Republican-controlled Congress and signed into law by Bush that Oct. 17, made significant changes to the nation's judicial system. The law allows the president to designate any person an alien unlawful enemy combatant, shunting that individual into an alternative court system in which the writ of habeas corpus no longer applies, the right to a speedy trial is gone, and justice is meted out by a military tribunal that can admit evidence obtained through coercion and presented without the accused in the courtroom, all under the guise of preserving national security. Habeas corpus, a constitutional right cribbed from the Magna Carta, protects against arbitrary imprisonment. Alexander Hamilton, writing in the Federalist Papers, called it the greatest defense against the favorite and most formidable instruments of tyranny. The Military Commissions Act has been seen mostly as a method for dealing with Guantánamo Bay detainees, and most journalists have reported that it doesn't have any impact on Americans. On Oct. 19, 2006, editors at the /New York Times /wrote, in quite definitive language, this law does not apply to American citizens. Investigative journalist Robert Parry disagrees. The right of habeas corpus no longer exists for any of us, he wrote in the online journal/ Consortium./ Deep down in the lower sections of the act, the language shifts from the very specific alien unlawful enemy combatant to the vague any person subject to this chapter. Why does it contain language referring to 'any person' and then adding in an adjacent context a reference to people acting 'in breach of allegiance or duty to the United States'? Parry wrote. Who has 'an allegiance or duty to the United States' if not an American citizen? Reached by phone, Parry told the /Guardian/ that this loose phraseology could be interpreted very narrowly or very broadly. He said he's consulted with lawyers who are experienced in drafting federal security legislation, and they agreed that the any person terminology is troubling. It could be fixed very simply, but the Bush administration put through this very vaguely worded law, and now there are a lot of differences of opinion on how it could be interpreted, Parry said. Though US Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) moved quickly to remedy the situation with the Habeas Corpus Restoration Act, that legislation has yet to pass Congress, which some suspect is because too many Democrats don't want to seem soft on terrorism. Until tested by time, exactly how much the language of the Military Commissions Act may be manipulated will remain to be seen. /Sources: Repeal the Military Commissions Act and Restore the Most American Human Right, Thom Hartmann, Common Dreams Web site, www.commondreams.org/views07/0212-24.htm http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0212-24.htm, Feb. 12, 2007; Still No Habeas Rights for You, Robert Parry, /Consortium/ (online journal of investigative reporting), consortiumnews.com/2007/020307.html http://consortiumnews.com/2007/020307.html, Feb. 3, 2007; Who Is 'Any Person' in Tribunal Law? Robert Parry, /Consortium/, consortiumnews.com/2006/101906.html http://consortiumnews.com/2006/101906.html, Oct. 19, 2006/ 2. MARTIAL LAW: COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU The Military Commissions Act was part of a one-two punch to civil liberties. While the first blow to habeas corpus received some attention, there was almost no media coverage of a private Oval Office ceremony held the same day the military act was signed at which Bush signed the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, a $532 billion catchall bill for defense spending. Tucked away in the deeper recesses of that act, section 1076 allows the president to declare a public emergency and dispatch federal troops to take over National Guard units and local police if he determines them unfit for maintaining order. This is essentially a revival of the Insurrection Act, which was repealed by Congress in 1878, when it passed the Posse Comitatus Act in response to Northern troops overstaying their welcome in the reconstructed South. That act wiped out a potentially tyrannical amount of power by reinforcing the idea that the federal government should patrol the nation's borders and let the states take care of their own territories. The Warner act defines a public emergency as a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any state or
Re: [scifinoir2] Censorship and Delayed Yahoo Posts
I do not think specific posts are causing it, I was wondering if the filtering applications they are using are causing it [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice it all the day, but curiously, it seems to happen to me mostly on weekends, especially Friday and Saturday nights. It's not based on content, from what I can tell, as my posts on cartoons and TV shows get delayed as often as my more inflammatory ones on politics. I've attributed to the mail system hiccupping, but is there more to it? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Have you guys noticed that your posts are appearing hours after send them? In the past they would be posted instantly. It was almost like instant messaging. Recently I read that certain liberal newsletters were being filtered and put in spam or bulk mail folders of people with yahoo, MSN or hotmail accounts. Since September 7 it is almost impossible to subscribe and receive these newsletters. From what understand, if you try to click on the link to the offending site via a past email, you will not be taken to the site itself, but the site of your email host. This and our experience of a few years ago leads me to believe our messages are being delayed so they can filter our emails for some type of censorship. Am I being paranoid? Hopefully, this will post before tomorrow Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
Lady speaks the truth. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys assume they are going to stick with the story, timelines and profiles that we know. Even the series that involved Roddenberry and Berman did not always do that. Enterprise is playing on scifi channel and I notice them playing fast and loose with Trek History all the time Daryle wrote: Can¹t take place on the Enterprise. Most of these people didn¹t serve on the ship until Pike left, and Chekov was the last to come aboard. This must take place at the academy or some post academy training base. It¹s sounding like it¹s the story of how they all met one another in their youth. What would be a shame is if it¹s a bunch of one off stories describing everyone in their youth, like the TNG episode about Picard and his heart. On 9/18/07 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
Keith, I'll send it straight to you. Forgot that groups don't allow attachments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't get your posting, but got your point... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith, since when did such trivialities as continuity mean jack-spit to those H'Wood boys? This may have been posted at some time in the past, but I found this recently. It's Joe Strazyncki's (sp?) reboot of Trek. Here's hoping it posts... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
Naw. I saw the rumor on the scifi news sites when she got called in to audition and posted it hear. So, we just knew what they were up to ahead of the decision to actually cast her Daryle wrote: Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
indeed. So, what? they gonna use the Borg time travel incident in First Contact to explain the skewed ages of the Enterprise gang? That's what BB used to explain all the changes for teh series Enterprise -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] You guys assume they are going to stick with the story, timelines and profiles that we know. Even the series that involved Roddenberry and Berman did not always do that. Enterprise is playing on scifi channel and I notice them playing fast and loose with Trek History all the time Daryle wrote: Can¹t take place on the Enterprise. Most of these people didn¹t serve on the ship until Pike left, and Chekov was the last to come aboard. This must take place at the academy or some post academy training base. It¹s sounding like it¹s the story of how they all met one another in their youth. What would be a shame is if it¹s a bunch of one off stories describing everyone in their youth, like the TNG episode about Picard and his heart. On 9/18/07 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] How to Write a Movie for the Sci-fi Channel in Six Easy Steps
http://d2dvd.blogspot.com/2007/08/for-those-wanting-to-write-scifi.html For Those Wanting to Write a Scifi Channel Original: The Scifi Channel as most of you know runs an original made-for-cable movie every Saturday night. What you may not know is that there are certain structural conditions they have in place for screenplays they co-produce and air. This comes to you courtesy of The Retromedia Forum (see sidebar where I urge all of you to register and join in the fun) and the experience of writer-director Steve Latshaw (LIGHTSPEED, PLANET RAPTOR: RAPTOR ISLAND 2, AMERICAN BLACK BEAUTY ) : Actually, based on a conversation I had with their director of development in 2005... . 1. They prefer a seven act structure. . 2. First act runs around 17 minutes... opens with a 3 minute (3 page) teaser right off the top that features the monster attacking. . 3. Remaining six acts run 8-15 minutes. Each act (including the first act) must end with a cliffhanger. They monitor ratings - literally - every minute; any fall off is noted as audience disinterest. . 4. Concept must be simple for the monster, story, etc. Don't bog down with excessively confusing plot. . 5. Pacing / tone must be immediate and fast. Hit the ground running. They liked the immediacy of series like 24, where everything is happening NOW. High tension, characters in immediate trouble that gets worse. This is very important. . 6. No expanded or lengthy coda scenes. Kill the monster, heroes left alive, boom, into closing credits. Fast ending. . They used, as a perfect example for tone, an excellent Brit flick called DOG SOLDIERS. They loved that movie. --- STEVE LATSHAW -- Just like there are different script structures between theatrical and television, there are different script structures for different networks, just as there will be different script structures for the web. They are all by design. Edit to add: My buddy, Jeff O'Brien ( INSECTICIDAL) just sent me this: A pal who pitched to Cinetel a few months back says they were looking for eight acts, the eighth act being a brief coda - and also that the immediate threat should be taken care of and killed, but foreshadow a greater threat still out there - sequelitis. FYI - Cinetel is one of the companies that regularly produces these movies for SciFi. Their needs may differ slightly from those of the network - but not by much. Your mileage may vary.
[scifinoir2] Fw: World Science: A threat-detection system built into our brains?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cool science stuff. * Built-in brain templates may clue tots to threats: Do babies know something about spiders before ever seeing one? http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/070917_spider.htm * Worrisome quiet in genes may predict lung cancer: When it's quiet -- almost too quiet -- in movies, it signals something may be about to go wrong. Lung cancer may work similarly, researchers say. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070917_genequiet.htm * Good fences make good neighbors, scientists find: Could the cold reasonableness of math prevent the burning irrationality of ethnic strife? http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070913_ethnic.htm * Cold probably didn't end Neanderthals: study Scientists report new clues in the mystery of the demise of Neanderthal people, around 28,000 years ago in Europe. http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070912_neanderthal.htm Invite friends to join World Science! Do your friends or colleagues a favor. Just click here to open an invitation email you can send them so they can join you in subscribing to World Science at no charge. Feel free to change the email text (although you might want to leave the subscription instructions unchanged.) This is the World Science newsletter. To cancel your subscription, please reply to this email address with cancel in the subject line. To subscribe, write to this email address with subscribe in the subject line. To change the address where you receive the newsletter, simply subscribe the new address and cancel the old one. Any article on the World Science site may be reproduced on another website, on condition that it is reproduced along with a link to the World Science homepage, http://www.world-science.net. Linking to the page of the original article is optional. Vote in the National Cheney Impeachment Poll http://www.usalone.com/blogvoices.php?Cheney%20Impeachment%3F Add this text to your own email and blog signatures! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.16/1005 - Release Date: 9/13/2007 11:45 AM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Iron Man Trailer
If I remember correctly the first Spider-Man teaser was the Twin Towers web spot. It didn't appear in the movie but it certainly whet the appetite for what was coming. I would be a little disappointed if the Iron Man vs. jets sequence doesn't appear in the film but like other folks have mentioned it looks like a potentially great take on Iron Man. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hated Top Gun. The trailer was *fun*. It had me sold on the idea that the entire movie might be fun. Now, it's basically a creation meant to *sell* the movie. I feel cheated. Maybe not you, but that's the wonder of diversity speaking. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You were only happy because of the jet scene? The rest of the trailer, it meant nothing. it was just hey, jets!? You may want to watch Top Gun. JJ Mohareb On 9/16/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin, it bothers me. What if you look up a woman on Yahu Personals, and she says that she's five-six, long brown hair and drives a Lamborghini? And, when yous how up for the date, it's five-six after she puts on the six-inch platforms, the long brown hair was from Elmo's Wig Emporium and the Lamborghini belongs to her jealous husband? I saw this thing and got happy. I thought for sure that I'd be seeing this, and now I learn I won't be. False advertising. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] justinmohareb%40gmail.com wrote: According to him, one SCENE with IM and jets is not in the movie. And that gets an SFW. JJ Mohareb On 9/16/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]truthseeker_013% 40yahoo.com wrote: Folks, I fear that I've picked up some disturbing news about this from a friend who runs another website. According to him, this trailer isn't even in the movie, was shot just for ad purposes. http://www.revolutionsf.com/article.html?id=3726 Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.comyokozuna% 40globalsoulmedia.com wrote: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/ My take: AAbsolutely. Yes. Sorry, folks. This is pretty dang gone awesome. I can almost tolerate Gwyneth Paltrow in it, just because Robert Downey, Jr. is perfect. The Dark Knight had better bring it, or Marvel wins yet again. This is so far the only one of these comic movies I would like to see in HD. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Iron Man Trailer
Sony¹s teaser trailer for the original Spider-Man movie had a helicopter trapped in a web between the twin towers. Obviously that scene never made the movie. Did not make the first Spider-Man any less of a great picture. It¹s a comic book movie. This news about the trailer is like putting an Alex Ross cover on a book of Charlie Brown comic strips. If you¹re into what¹s inside, it doesn¹t really matter what the cover looks like. Iron Man WILL fly in this movie. Jon¹s an idiot if he ignores the feedback to this trailer. This is a world where a fan¹s parody video turned into actual Juggernaut dialogue in the last X Men movie. There may not be jets, but the suit will fly. On 9/17/07 8:18 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hated Top Gun. The trailer was *fun*. It had me sold on the idea that the entire movie might be fun. Now, it's basically a creation meant to *sell* the movie. I feel cheated. Maybe not you, but that's the wonder of diversity speaking. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com wrote: You were only happy because of the jet scene? The rest of the trailer, it meant nothing. it was just hey, jets!? You may want to watch Top Gun. JJ Mohareb On 9/16/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Justin, it bothers me. What if you look up a woman on Yahu Personals, and she says that she's five-six, long brown hair and drives a Lamborghini? And, when yous how up for the date, it's five-six after she puts on the six-inch platforms, the long brown hair was from Elmo's Wig Emporium and the Lamborghini belongs to her jealous husband? I saw this thing and got happy. I thought for sure that I'd be seeing this, and now I learn I won't be. False advertising. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com justinmohareb%40gmail.com wrote: According to him, one SCENE with IM and jets is not in the movie. And that gets an SFW. JJ Mohareb On 9/16/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Folks, I fear that I've picked up some disturbing news about this from a friend who runs another website. According to him, this trailer isn't even in the movie, was shot just for ad purposes. http://www.revolutionsf.com/article.html?id=3726 Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.comyokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com wrote: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/ My take: AAbsolutely. Yes. Sorry, folks. This is pretty dang gone awesome. I can almost tolerate Gwyneth Paltrow in it, just because Robert Downey, Jr. is perfect. The Dark Knight had better bring it, or Marvel wins yet again. This is so far the only one of these comic movies I would like to see in HD. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek casting dept. starts reading SciFi Noir
No, they'll go with the divergent timeline resultant from Yesterday's Enterprise. Kidding, folks, KIDDING! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: indeed. So, what? they gonna use the Borg time travel incident in First Contact to explain the skewed ages of the Enterprise gang? That's what BB used to explain all the changes for teh series Enterprise -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) You guys assume they are going to stick with the story, timelines and profiles that we know. Even the series that involved Roddenberry and Berman did not always do that. Enterprise is playing on scifi channel and I notice them playing fast and loose with Trek History all the time Daryle wrote: Can¹t take place on the Enterprise. Most of these people didn¹t serve on the ship until Pike left, and Chekov was the last to come aboard. This must take place at the academy or some post academy training base. It¹s sounding like it¹s the story of how they all met one another in their youth. What would be a shame is if it¹s a bunch of one off stories describing everyone in their youth, like the TNG episode about Picard and his heart. On 9/18/07 10:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: something just occurred to me. Is this going to take place on the Starship Enterprise? If so, how can you have young crew members, when the crew was mostly in their early to mid 30's when the series aired??? Kirk was 33 or so at best when the series started, Spock was 36, Scotty 44, Sulu 29, Dr. McCoy 39!! Chekov and Uhura were the youngest at 21 and 27, respectively. So how old is the crew supposed to be? If young means under 30, then they're gonna have to change the entire timeline to have this crew come together in their 20s and early 30s on the Enterprise. This goes back to my irritation at Hollywood's youth obsssession now. The original series used older actors (Kelley, for example, was 44, though playing younger, and Nichols was 34) to play mature characters. Why de-age them so much, such as in the case of Dr. McCoy? -- Original message -- From: Daryle Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e 55f5f3989888be78 Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par By Borys Kit Sept 18, 2007 J.J. Abrams is slowly bringing his crew together for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the Star Trek movie series. Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise. Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew. Saldana will join Anton Yelchin as a young Chekov, the Russian-born navigator, as well as Zachary Quinto as a young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, is on board as well. On the original TV series and in the movies, Uhura was played by Nichelle Nichols. Abrams is directing and producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008. Saldana is one of the stars of James Cameron's sci-fi epic Avatar, which is currently filming. She will next be seen in Vantage Point with Matthew Fox, Dennis Quaid and Forest Whitaker. She is repped by Gersh and Brillstein Entertainment Partners. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Iron Man Trailer
Perhaps I overrreacted to all of this. But I've been lied to so many times in this life that it evokes anger in me. Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sony¹s teaser trailer for the original Spider-Man movie had a helicopter trapped in a web between the twin towers. Obviously that scene never made the movie. Did not make the first Spider-Man any less of a great picture. It¹s a comic book movie. This news about the trailer is like putting an Alex Ross cover on a book of Charlie Brown comic strips. If you¹re into what¹s inside, it doesn¹t really matter what the cover looks like. Iron Man WILL fly in this movie. Jon¹s an idiot if he ignores the feedback to this trailer. This is a world where a fan¹s parody video turned into actual Juggernaut dialogue in the last X Men movie. There may not be jets, but the suit will fly. On 9/17/07 8:18 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hated Top Gun. The trailer was *fun*. It had me sold on the idea that the entire movie might be fun. Now, it's basically a creation meant to *sell* the movie. I feel cheated. Maybe not you, but that's the wonder of diversity speaking. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com wrote: You were only happy because of the jet scene? The rest of the trailer, it meant nothing. it was just hey, jets!? You may want to watch Top Gun. JJ Mohareb On 9/16/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Justin, it bothers me. What if you look up a woman on Yahu Personals, and she says that she's five-six, long brown hair and drives a Lamborghini? And, when yous how up for the date, it's five-six after she puts on the six-inch platforms, the long brown hair was from Elmo's Wig Emporium and the Lamborghini belongs to her jealous husband? I saw this thing and got happy. I thought for sure that I'd be seeing this, and now I learn I won't be. False advertising. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:justinmohareb%40gmail.com justinmohareb%40gmail.com wrote: According to him, one SCENE with IM and jets is not in the movie. And that gets an SFW. JJ Mohareb On 9/16/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Folks, I fear that I've picked up some disturbing news about this from a friend who runs another website. According to him, this trailer isn't even in the movie, was shot just for ad purposes. http://www.revolutionsf.com/article.html?id=3726 Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.comyokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com wrote: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/ My take: AAbsolutely. Yes. Sorry, folks. This is pretty dang gone awesome. I can almost tolerate Gwyneth Paltrow in it, just because Robert Downey, Jr. is perfect. The Dark Knight had better bring it, or Marvel wins yet again. This is so far the only one of these comic movies I would like to see in HD. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Iron Man Trailer
I literally just said the exact same thing about the Spider Man trailer. I think Yahoo IS eating our posts. On 9/18/07 5:13 PM, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember correctly the first Spider-Man teaser was the Twin Towers web spot. It didn't appear in the movie but it certainly whet the appetite for what was coming. I would be a little disappointed if the Iron Man vs. jets sequence doesn't appear in the film but like other folks have mentioned it looks like a potentially great take on Iron Man. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hated Top Gun. The trailer was *fun*. It had me sold on the idea that the entire movie might be fun. Now, it's basically a creation meant to *sell* the movie. I feel cheated. Maybe not you, but that's the wonder of diversity speaking. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You were only happy because of the jet scene? The rest of the trailer, it meant nothing. it was just hey, jets!? You may want to watch Top Gun. JJ Mohareb On 9/16/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin, it bothers me. What if you look up a woman on Yahu Personals, and she says that she's five-six, long brown hair and drives a Lamborghini? And, when yous how up for the date, it's five-six after she puts on the six-inch platforms, the long brown hair was from Elmo's Wig Emporium and the Lamborghini belongs to her jealous husband? I saw this thing and got happy. I thought for sure that I'd be seeing this, and now I learn I won't be. False advertising. Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] justinmohareb%40gmail.com wrote: According to him, one SCENE with IM and jets is not in the movie. And that gets an SFW. JJ Mohareb On 9/16/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]truthseeker_013% 40yahoo.com wrote: Folks, I fear that I've picked up some disturbing news about this from a friend who runs another website. According to him, this trailer isn't even in the movie, was shot just for ad purposes. http://www.revolutionsf.com/article.html?id=3726 Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.comyokozuna% 40globalsoulmedia.com wrote: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/ironman/ My take: AAbsolutely. Yes. Sorry, folks. This is pretty dang gone awesome. I can almost tolerate Gwyneth Paltrow in it, just because Robert Downey, Jr. is perfect. The Dark Knight had better bring it, or Marvel wins yet again. This is so far the only one of these comic movies I would like to see in HD. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] How to Write a Movie for the Sci-fi Channel in Six Easy Steps
(grabbing fresh paper) Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://d2dvd.blogspot.com/2007/08/for-those-wanting-to-write-scifi.html For Those Wanting to Write a Scifi Channel Original: The Scifi Channel as most of you know runs an original made-for-cable movie every Saturday night. What you may not know is that there are certain structural conditions they have in place for screenplays they co-produce and air. This comes to you courtesy of The Retromedia Forum (see sidebar where I urge all of you to register and join in the fun) and the experience of writer-director Steve Latshaw (LIGHTSPEED, PLANET RAPTOR: RAPTOR ISLAND 2, AMERICAN BLACK BEAUTY ) : Actually, based on a conversation I had with their director of development in 2005... . 1. They prefer a seven act structure. . 2. First act runs around 17 minutes... opens with a 3 minute (3 page) teaser right off the top that features the monster attacking. . 3. Remaining six acts run 8-15 minutes. Each act (including the first act) must end with a cliffhanger. They monitor ratings - literally - every minute; any fall off is noted as audience disinterest. . 4. Concept must be simple for the monster, story, etc. Don't bog down with excessively confusing plot. . 5. Pacing / tone must be immediate and fast. Hit the ground running. They liked the immediacy of series like 24, where everything is happening NOW. High tension, characters in immediate trouble that gets worse. This is very important. . 6. No expanded or lengthy coda scenes. Kill the monster, heroes left alive, boom, into closing credits. Fast ending. . They used, as a perfect example for tone, an excellent Brit flick called DOG SOLDIERS. They loved that movie. --- STEVE LATSHAW -- Just like there are different script structures between theatrical and television, there are different script structures for different networks, just as there will be different script structures for the web. They are all by design. Edit to add: My buddy, Jeff O'Brien ( INSECTICIDAL) just sent me this: A pal who pitched to Cinetel a few months back says they were looking for eight acts, the eighth act being a brief coda - and also that the immediate threat should be taken care of and killed, but foreshadow a greater threat still out there - sequelitis. FYI - Cinetel is one of the companies that regularly produces these movies for SciFi. Their needs may differ slightly from those of the network - but not by much. Your mileage may vary. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] OT: web site featuring sketches and podcast
All, Please check out my website listed below. I post sketches Monday, Tuesday, Thursday Friday plus a podcast every Wednesday. Feedback would be GREATLY appreciated. Gerald http://www.undergroundartistry.com Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
[scifinoir2] Avatar: Book Three- Keith You Excited???
Keith: Avatar Book Three premiers on Friday. Nicktoons have been showing season one and two all week to lead up to it. Been a little under the weather this week so I have been watching a few. The promos for the new season look great. Are you excited? Have you been watching the marathon? Tracey Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] State Senator sues God to stop plagues, terror threats
A Nebraska lawmaker is taking his complaints about frivolous lawsuits
limits all the way to the top.
State Sen. Ernie Chambers is suing God.
It's a lawsuit against a defendant who has perpetrated much harm and
damage on the human race, Chambers said on CNN.
Chambers says his frivolous lawsuit against the Lord was meant to
protest a suit filed against a Nebraska judge who banned the words
rape and victim from a woman's rape trial.
Some Nebraska lawmakers are trying to pass legislation preventing
frivolous lawsuits, but Chambers says anyone should be able to file a
lawsuit against anyone else.
The Constitution requires that the courthouse doors be open, so you
cannot prohibit the filing of suits, Chambers tells a local Fox
affiliate. Anyone can sue anyone they choose, even God.
In his suit, Chambers seeks an injunction against God ordering the deity
to stop natural disasters and terror threats. Fox News notes that
Chambers is not a Christian.
Apparently this Omaha senator, he also skips morning prayers during the
legislative session and often criticizes Christians, a Fox host notes.
So apparently this guy is not a man of faith, which is fine, but it's a
little unusual he's suing God, I don't think he's going to get a response.
The lawsuit notes that Chambers tried several times to contact the
defendant, KETV reported.
“Plaintiff, despite reasonable efforts to effectuate personal service
upon Defendant ('Come out, come out, wherever you are') has been unable
to do so,” the suit says.
These video clips are from CNN's American Morning and Fox's Fox
Friends, broadcast September 18.
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/State_Senator_sues_God_for_plagues_0918.html
[scifinoir2] Alternate-day Fasting: How Good Is It For Your Health?
Science Daily — Researchers report that fasting or eating half as much as usual every other day may shrink your fat cells and boost mechanisms that break down fats. Consuming less calories and increasing physical activity is usually what people do to lose weight and stay healthy. But some people prefer to adopt a diet which consists of eating as much as they want one day while fasting the next. On each fasting day, these people consume energy-free beverages, tea, coffee, and sugar-free gum and they drink as much water as they need. Although many people claim that this diet, called alternate-day fasting (ADF), help them lose weight and improved their health, the effects on health and disease risk of ADF are not clear. Krista Varady and colleagues studied the effects of alternate-day fasting on 24 male mice for four weeks. To assess the impact of ADF on the health of the mice, the scientists not only tested mice that followed and didn't follow an ADF diet, but they also studied mice that followed the diet only partially: a group of mice consumed 50 percent of their regular diet every other day (ADF-50%) and another consumed 75 percent of their regular diet every other day (ADF-25%). The scientists noticed that the ADF-100% mice lost weight and the fat cells of both the ADF-100% and ADF-50% groups shrunk by more than half and by 35 percent, respectively. Also, in these two groups of mice, fat under the skin -- but not abdominal fat -- was broken down more than in mice that did not follow the diet. These results suggest that complete and modified ADF regimens seem to protect against obesity and type 2 diabetes but do not result in fat or weight loss. More studies will be needed to confirm whether the long-term effects of ADF regimens are beneficial for health and reduce disease risk, the scientists conclude. Article: Effects of modified alternate-day fasting regimens on adipocyte size, triglyceride metabolism and plasma adiponectin levels in mice, by Krista A. Varady, D. J. Roohk, Y. C. Loe, B. K. McEvoy-Hein, and M. K. Hellerstein Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070917144537.htm
