[scifinoir2] Jackson won't helm 'The Hobbit'
As Hollywood Insider reported earlier today, Peter Jackson will executive produce The Hobbit and a sequel, both set to go into pre-production as soon as possible. But although MGM president Harry Sloan told Hollywood Insider there was a chance Jackson himself might end up directing the films, Jackson’s manager Ken Kamins tells HI that was not possible: “Peter won’t be directing the films because he felt the fans have waited long enough for The Hobbit, Kamis said. It will take the better part of every day of the next four years to write, direct, and produce the two Hobbit films. Given his current obligations to both The Lovely Bones and Tintin, waiting for Peter, Fran [Walsh, Jackson's life/creative partner), and Philippa [Boyens, co-writer/co-producer] to write, direct, and produce The Hobbit would require the fans wait even longer. By serving as executive producers and having approval over all creative elements of both films, Peter can ensure that the films will be made with the same intimacy and care as if they were writing and directing themselves.” Despite rumors that Sam Raimi, Alfonso Cuarón, or Guillermo del Toro will be taking over directing duties, sources say that no decisions have been made on that subject, nor has a writer been chosen. According to New Line co-chief Bob Shaye, the studio plans to meet with Jackson in early 2008 and begin the development process. “All decisions about writers and directors will be made in conjunction with Peter,” Shaye told HI. Another source confirmed that Jackson, Walsh, and Boyens will have director, writer, and cast approval. It will take some time before anyone begins penning a script for The Hobbit because of the ongoing writers’ strike and Jackson's schedule -- the director is in Pennsylvania shooting The Lovely Bones until February. But surely Jackson is planning a big ole bender back in New Zealand, right? “Honestly, I haven’t talked to Peter!” said Kamins, laughing. “He just got home from Pennsylvania last night!” http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/12/no-jackson-will.html
Re: [scifinoir2] Speaking of Will Smith
how long before his rep has grown enough to do that? -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think Smith has done his research and knows what we know about the market. He is a smart man, so he is going to put his money into what sells...maybe later, if he has such a mind to do so, he'll do the films you talk about...By then, his reputation alone will pull the audience he need for success...The Happyness film is a quasi-example of that... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith: I decide to read what I missed before on Smith's Profile on Internet Movie Database and I saw that the man has really stepped up his activity as a producer in recent years. In addition to Hancock, he has eight flicks in various stages of production. With just a cursory glance, none look like they are Black or Black love, but some look interesting. Just some food for thought.. All of your points are valid, but there is one thing I do not get the impression that you have considered. Black on Black love in film does not even a high profile topic within the Black community or among Blacks in the entertainment industry. I guess I'm saying that for years people have been saying that there are no positive Black stories in Hollywood and a few people took some risks and we are starting to see these stories. We had to hear it or a long time before there was noticeable movement in that area. With two biopics, I would include Smith among those people who is seeking to address that issue. I also wonder if most African Americans feel that niche is being filled with the Black films we see that barely make it to the big screen. I do not see the same type of push in Holly weird (even among Blacks) for that type of story. I could be way off base. Is it true, do Black in Hollywood not really push for the Black on Black thing? Speaking of that..it just hit me...with the exception of McMillan adaptations, Angela Bassett is always paired with a white male. I take that back, she had a non-existent relationship with the Black guy on Alias. I say non-existent, because you did not know about it until they were deep into it. Please note: I was moving out of the country at the time, so it is possible I missed some episodes that covered when they were getting together. If that is the case please let me know [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that brings us full circle back to my question: why does a man who's pulled in well over a hundred million in up front salary in the last few years not take a stand and fight for a Black woman as his love interest in a film? -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ironpigs3%40yahoo.com Will Smith actually owns his own production company Overbrook Entertainment. I think he pretty much does whatever he wants to at this point. This is from the IMDB: Graduate of Philly's legendary Overbrook High School, whose alumni include Wilt Chamberlain, Hal Lear, Wali Jones, Walt Hazzard, The Dovells, The Orlons, DeeDee Sharp, etc. and in tribute to his student years there, his production company is called Overbrook Entertainment. The company produce the following movies: Ali, Showtime, I-Robot, Hitch, Saving Face, ATL, and Pursuit of Happiness. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Agreed. Most at his level have made just that move, but for some reason (perhaps kids as you suggest) Smith hasn't taken the plunge. If he does, it will be interesting to see what he does. Justin Mohareb wrote: At this point, it's pretty much possible for an established star to put their own production company together, pick a project they want, and get it done themselves. I'm pretty sure he could put something together for a couple million dollars if he wanted to. Look at some of the stuff Clooney has done (Good Night, Good Luck) or the Bobby Kennedy movie. These were projects the creators believed in, so they made them happen. Maybe when his kids are older. JJ Mohareb On Dec 18, 2007 4:39 PM, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com wrote: Hummminteresting concept. But I'm sure he still a slave to corporate. Now that you bring this up I can't even remember a movie of his that has a black female as his co-star. I was sure that he would link up with a Gab. Union, Janet, Halle, or one of them sisters for a role. But i guess cause he's in sci-fi so much that a lot of his roles didn't call for a love interest or they went the safe route with a Spanish chick. But maybe he will shock us all -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
[scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith
Smart man. I think that trumps a Baltimore woman. Of course, you guys all know from experience with me that we Philly women are as meek as church mice...right, Right, RIGHT?!?!?!? :) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, James A. Landrith, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronx woman. (James sits in corner, quietly minding Ps and Qs for 14 years and counting) ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com .. Original Message ... On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (whispering close to the screen after shutting study room doors) It aint just Baltimore women...
[scifinoir2] Re: Ever Seen the Horror Film Black Sheep?
Yeah. Shaun was good, but the idea of Killer sheep gives me the willies (sp) I live some gory movies once I see them, but i'm usually slow to go out of my way to seem them. While I was Mexico, I had on demand and there were video stores, but I just did not rent much. I also missed a lot of stuff that did not get down there, so with a rental que of almost 200, I put off the killer sheep-- besides, my husband and brother in law are already making fun of some of my more adventuresome movie nite rental choices. i would never live the sheep down --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: check the trailer at Apple's site. It's not bad at all, just kinda funny. you get hints of the gore. But didn't you watch Shaun of the Dead? I heard that's pretty gory? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] No the description on Netflix kind of terrified me. after I got done laughing at the concept of killer sheep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didja check the trailer? -- Original message -- From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] All jokes aside, huh? Oh my gosh, that's hilarious!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the jokes about sheep put me in mind of this film i've been hearing about for months, Black Sheep. With taglines like There are forty million sheep in New Zealand. They're all pissed off and The violence of the lambs, it sounds like a hoot. It's supposed to be very violent, very gory (the sheep routinely eat human entrails), and very funny. Sounds like a blast, reminds me of an updated version of camp classics like The Food of the Gods or Night of the Lepus, but with more blood, and FX courtesy of WETA! Check out the trailer, it's hilarious. http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/blacksheep/internationaltrailer/ Synopsis: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_sheep/about.php This blood-soaked horror comedy is the story of Henry Oldfield (Nathan Meister), a New Zealander with an unfortunate phobia...of sheep. When Henry was a boy, his father was killed in a herding accident on the land, and Henry fled to the big city. Now, years later, he has returned to sell his half of the farm and--at the behest of his therapist--to face his fears. Meanwhile, Henry's sadistic older brother Angus (Peter Feeney) has taken over the family business, and become widely known for his controversial genetic experiments on the animals. When two animal activists release one of Angus's genetically-altered lambs, Henry's trip quickly turns into his worst nightmare, as the lamb's zombie-like bite turns sheep and people into vicious flesh-eaters. Henry joins forces with one of the animal activists (Danielle Mason), and together they try to escape the sheep and find an antidote for the virus. Director Jonathon King cleverly plays on the silliness of the normally docile, dimwitted lamb as terrifying monster, and his shots of the sheep swarming over the hills induce equal parts thrills and laughter. However, the storyline could perhaps have benefited from a bit less action, and a bit more plot, as the suspense and jokes begin to fizzle by the end. The excellent WETA WORKSHOP (known for its work on the LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy) delivers hilariously gory special effects. Faces are eaten off, humans throw their own limbs, and heads explode, culminating in a raucous bloodbath that will likely earn BLACK SHEEP cult status among the EVIL DEAD crowd. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Iâll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really donât want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Ever Seen the Horror Film Black Sheep?
Maybe if I show the trailer to the guys, they will trust me to add it to movie nite --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm adding that to my Netflix right now that trailer is the funniest thing ever. On Dec 19, 2007 2:38 PM, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been on my Netflix for a while. I'll have to move it up the list. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: i haven't seen it yet... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ I've been too afraid. Don't know why. Did you like it? KeithBJohnson@ wrote: All the jokes about sheep put me in mind of this film i've been hearing about for months, Black Sheep. With taglines like There are forty million sheep in New Zealand. They're all pissed off and The violence of the lambs, it sounds like a hoot. It's supposed to be very violent, very gory (the sheep routinely eat human entrails), and very funny. Sounds like a blast, reminds me of an updated version of camp classics like The Food of the Gods or Night of the Lepus, but with more blood, and FX courtesy of WETA! Check out the trailer, it's hilarious. http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/blacksheep/internationaltrai ler/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/blacksheep/internationaltra iler/ Synopsis: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_sheep/about.php http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_sheep/about.php This blood-soaked horror comedy is the story of Henry Oldfield (Nathan Meister), a New Zealander with an unfortunate phobia...of sheep. When Henry was a boy, his father was killed in a herding accident on the land, and Henry fled to the big city. Now, years later, he has returned to sell his half of the farm and--at the behest of his therapist--to face his fears. Meanwhile, Henry's sadistic older brother Angus (Peter Feeney) has taken over the family business, and become widely known for his controversial genetic experiments on the animals. When two animal activists release one of Angus's genetically-altered lambs, Henry's trip quickly turns into his worst nightmare, as the lamb's zombie-like bite turns sheep and people into vicious flesh-eaters. Henry joins forces with one of the animal activists (Danielle Mason), and together they try to escape the sheep and find an antidote for the virus. Director Jonathon King cleverly plays on the silliness of the normally docile, dimwitted lamb as terrifying monster, and his shots of the sheep swarming over the hills induce equal parts thrills and laughter. However, the storyline could perhaps have benefited from a bit less action, and a bit more plot, as the suspense and jokes begin to fizzle by the end. The excellent WETA WORKSHOP (known for its work on the LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy) delivers hilariously gory special effects. Faces are eaten off, humans throw their own limbs, and heads explode, culminating in a raucous bloodbath that will likely earn BLACK SHEEP cult status among the EVIL DEAD crowd. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Jackson won't helm 'The Hobbit'
Martin is greatly saddened by this news... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Hollywood Insider reported earlier today, Peter Jackson will executive produce The Hobbit and a sequel, both set to go into pre-production as soon as possible. But although MGM president Harry Sloan told Hollywood Insider there was a chance Jackson himself might end up directing the films, Jacksonâs manager Ken Kamins tells HI that was not possible: âPeter wonât be directing the films because he felt the fans have waited long enough for The Hobbit, Kamis said. It will take the better part of every day of the next four years to write, direct, and produce the two Hobbit films. Given his current obligations to both The Lovely Bones and Tintin, waiting for Peter, Fran [Walsh, Jackson's life/creative partner), and Philippa [Boyens, co-writer/co-producer] to write, direct, and produce The Hobbit would require the fans wait even longer. By serving as executive producers and having approval over all creative elements of both films, Peter can ensure that the films will be made with the same intimacy and care as if they were writing and directing themselves.â Despite rumors that Sam Raimi, Alfonso Cuarón, or Guillermo del Toro will be taking over directing duties, sources say that no decisions have been made on that subject, nor has a writer been chosen. According to New Line co-chief Bob Shaye, the studio plans to meet with Jackson in early 2008 and begin the development process. âAll decisions about writers and directors will be made in conjunction with Peter,â Shaye told HI. Another source confirmed that Jackson, Walsh, and Boyens will have director, writer, and cast approval. It will take some time before anyone begins penning a script for The Hobbit because of the ongoing writersâ strike and Jackson's schedule -- the director is in Pennsylvania shooting The Lovely Bones until February. But surely Jackson is planning a big ole bender back in New Zealand, right? âHonestly, I havenât talked to Peter!â said Kamins, laughing. âHe just got home from Pennsylvania last night!â http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/12/no-jackson-will.html There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith
We certainly are, Tracey. Just ask my husband.:-) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart man. I think that trumps a Baltimore woman. Of course, you guys all know from experience with me that we Philly women are as meek as church mice...right, Right, RIGHT?!?!?!? :) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, James A. Landrith, Jr. james@ wrote: Bronx woman. (James sits in corner, quietly minding Ps and Qs for 14 years and counting) ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com .. Original Message ... On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Astromancer cwbadie@ wrote: (whispering close to the screen after shutting study room doors) It aint just Baltimore women...
[scifinoir2] Comics to Film
On an earlier thread someone mentioned that the latest Batman film was their favorite comic adaptation. I really like it as well and it got me to thinking about some of my other faves. I think V for Vendetta is my personal favorite and I loved, loved, loved Hellboy. I really dug the most recent Batman as well as the first Spiderman. I wasn't so fond of the X-Men though I did like them. Anyone else got some pics or recommends. I am thinking of updating my netflix queue Bosco Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film
I still hold Spider-Man 2 as the best ever made. I think ³American Splendor² was pretty well done, and recently I saw, for the first time in its entirety, ³The Punisher². The acting, well, is pretty horrible, but if you can stand the X-Men movies, Punisher¹s worth a rental. On 12/20/07 4:41 PM, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On an earlier thread someone mentioned that the latest Batman film was their favorite comic adaptation. I really like it as well and it got me to thinking about some of my other faves. I think V for Vendetta is my personal favorite and I loved, loved, loved Hellboy. I really dug the most recent Batman as well as the first Spiderman. I wasn't so fond of the X-Men though I did like them. Anyone else got some pics or recommends. I am thinking of updating my netflix queue Bosco __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith
Um...Yes...please don't hurt me... tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart man. I think that trumps a Baltimore woman. Of course, you guys all know from experience with me that we Philly women are as meek as church mice...right, Right, RIGHT?!?!?!? :) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, James A. Landrith, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bronx woman. (James sits in corner, quietly minding Ps and Qs for 14 years and counting) ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com .. Original Message ... On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (whispering close to the screen after shutting study room doors) It aint just Baltimore women... Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film
I just saw the trailer for Hellboy 2. It looks to be every bit as good as the first one. I'll miss John Hurt but I think this could be truly fun B --- Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still hold Spider-Man 2 as the best ever made. I think ³American Splendor² was pretty well done, and recently I saw, for the first time in its entirety, ³The Punisher². The acting, well, is pretty horrible, but if you can stand the X-Men movies, Punisher¹s worth a rental. On 12/20/07 4:41 PM, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On an earlier thread someone mentioned that the latest Batman film was their favorite comic adaptation. I really like it as well and it got me to thinking about some of my other faves. I think V for Vendetta is my personal favorite and I loved, loved, loved Hellboy. I really dug the most recent Batman as well as the first Spiderman. I wasn't so fond of the X-Men though I did like them. Anyone else got some pics or recommends. I am thinking of updating my netflix queue Bosco __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Ever Seen the Horror Film Black Sheep?
I think that would be a good idea...I think... tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe if I show the trailer to the guys, they will trust me to add it to movie nite --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm adding that to my Netflix right now that trailer is the funniest thing ever. On Dec 19, 2007 2:38 PM, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been on my Netflix for a while. I'll have to move it up the list. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: i haven't seen it yet... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ I've been too afraid. Don't know why. Did you like it? KeithBJohnson@ wrote: All the jokes about sheep put me in mind of this film i've been hearing about for months, Black Sheep. With taglines like There are forty million sheep in New Zealand. They're all pissed off and The violence of the lambs, it sounds like a hoot. It's supposed to be very violent, very gory (the sheep routinely eat human entrails), and very funny. Sounds like a blast, reminds me of an updated version of camp classics like The Food of the Gods or Night of the Lepus, but with more blood, and FX courtesy of WETA! Check out the trailer, it's hilarious. http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/blacksheep/internationaltrai ler/ http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/blacksheep/internationaltra iler/ Synopsis: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_sheep/about.php http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_sheep/about.php This blood-soaked horror comedy is the story of Henry Oldfield (Nathan Meister), a New Zealander with an unfortunate phobia...of sheep. When Henry was a boy, his father was killed in a herding accident on the land, and Henry fled to the big city. Now, years later, he has returned to sell his half of the farm and--at the behest of his therapist--to face his fears. Meanwhile, Henry's sadistic older brother Angus (Peter Feeney) has taken over the family business, and become widely known for his controversial genetic experiments on the animals. When two animal activists release one of Angus's genetically-altered lambs, Henry's trip quickly turns into his worst nightmare, as the lamb's zombie-like bite turns sheep and people into vicious flesh-eaters. Henry joins forces with one of the animal activists (Danielle Mason), and together they try to escape the sheep and find an antidote for the virus. Director Jonathon King cleverly plays on the silliness of the normally docile, dimwitted lamb as terrifying monster, and his shots of the sheep swarming over the hills induce equal parts thrills and laughter. However, the storyline could perhaps have benefited from a bit less action, and a bit more plot, as the suspense and jokes begin to fizzle by the end. The excellent WETA WORKSHOP (known for its work on the LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy) delivers hilariously gory special effects. Faces are eaten off, humans throw their own limbs, and heads explode, culminating in a raucous bloodbath that will likely earn BLACK SHEEP cult status among the EVIL DEAD crowd. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- -- Blogs: The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Coming Soon Street Sweet NYC http://www.streetsweetnyc.com Get your fix on cupcake bliss. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Hellboy II Open To Third Film
Hellboy II Open To Third Film Guillermo del Toro, who directed and co-wrote the upcoming SF sequel Hellboy II: The Golden Army, told SCI FI Wire that he and Hellboy creator Mike Mignola fashioned the follow-up so that it lays the groundwork for a possible sequel. But if there isn't a third film, the movie also effectively closes out the story, he added. The way Mike and I did approach this was, when we were told, 'Think about something, if you want, for a sequel,' we went away and said, 'Let's talk about it,' del Toro said in an interview. Do we want to continue the story? We did the first one saying, 'That's it. It's a self-concluding story.' And I said, 'Let's come up with an arc that makes sense for us for the second and third movie.' In the new film, the Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense team--Hellboy (Ron Perlman), Liz Sherman (Selma Blair), Abe Sapien (Doug Jones) and Johann--jumps to action when the truce is broken between mankind and the invisible realm of the fantastic. A greedy, merciless figure (Blade II's Luke Goss) seizes the opportunity to try to take over the Earth. We said, 'This is the story. This is how we end in the third movie,' del Toro said. And then I went in and wrote a self-conclusive screenplay [for the second movie]. So if there's never a third one, I'm perfectly at peace. Hellboy II: The Golden Army opens July 11, 2008. --Ian Spelling http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46615 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit
Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit Spider-Man director Sam Raimi will return to his genre roots to helm Drag Me to Hell, a supernatural thriller he wrote with his brother, Ivan Raimi, Variety reported. After Drag Me to Hell, Raimi is expected to helm the Hobbit films for New Line and MGM now that Peter Jackson, who will executive-produce the movies, has made it clear he won't direct them, the trade paper reported. Hell, a morality tale about the unwitting recipient of a supernatural curse, will go into production early next year. It will be financed through Ghost House, a joint venture Raimi and Rob Tapert formed several years ago with Mandate Pictures. Raimi and Tapert will produce with Grant Curtis, and Josh Donen will executive-produce with Mandate's Nathan Kahane and Joe Drake. Tapert said the Raimis wrote the script well before the formation of Ghost House. It was originally written under the title The Curse and completed right after the siblings collaborated on 1992's Army of Darkness, which Sam Raimi directed. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46618 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] 4400 Is Canceled
Peters: 4400 Is Canceled http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46613 Scott Peters, creator of USA Network's The 4400, announced on the show's official forum that the series has been canceled. It's with great sadness that I pass along to you the information I've just received: The 4400 has been canceled, Peters wrote on Dec. 18. We've had a great time bringing you this story and submersing you in the lives of all these incredible characters. Thank you especially to the folks on the board here whose tireless devotion to the show is nothing short of remarkable. Cast member Jacqueline McKenzie posted her own reaction to the news on her MySpace.com page. I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone here for writing those petitions! she said, referring to a fan campaign to save the show. I know I speak for all the cast: We really appreciate the support and dedication of our fans! Thank you! Peters, who is also an executive producer, said that he broke the news to cast member Joel Gretsch. We had a great talk about what we all accomplished and how much we'll miss our family that is our crew and our cast ... and our fans, Peters wrote. But at least we got to go out with a bang! I had an awesome time directing the last episode. I think I got to make almost every single cast member cry (on camera). How much fun was that? Peters helmed the final episode of the series, The Great Leap Forward, which aired on Sept. 16, 2007. The show ran for four seasons on USA. (USA Network is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] USA Cancels Dead Zone
I only saw a few of the episodes of the last season but it lost something. i could not watch it anymore http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46619 USA Cancels Dead Zone USA Network has officially canceled The Dead Zone, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The Dead Zone ran for six seasons. It was based on characters from Stephen King's book and was created by the late Michael Piller and his son, Shawn. Its premiere set a record for a series debut on basic cable, with 6.4 million viewers. The Dead Zone starred Anthony Michael Hall and Nicole de Boer. (USA Network is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Wayans in GI Joe?
Wayans in Joe? Heavy G.I. Joe casting buzz. by IGN Staff http://movies.ign.com/articles/842/842579p1.html December 19, 2007 - The G.I. Joe casting news just keeps coming! Yesterday, we relayed multiple reports that P2 actress Rachel Nichols and South Korean film star Byung-hun Lee had been cast as Scarlett and Storm Shadow. IGN checked with contacts at Paramount Pictures who confirmed that the two actors have indeed been cast in the Stephen Sommers-directed production. Today, there's even more Joe casting buzz with the role of Heavy Duty rumored to go to a somewhat surprising choice. According to BlackFilm.com, Marlon Wayans has been offered the part of the heavy ordinance specialist and wanna-be chef. It's up to Wayans, of course, to accept. The offer is surprising in that Wayans doesn't exactly have the build we would've expected for a character like Heavy Duty. It'd be much easier to picture someone like Omar Epps, Wayans' BFF, in the role... but we digress. Should the Requiem for a Dream and Scary Movie star join the cast, he's gonna need to hit the gym and bulk up in order to meet fan expectations. Heavy Duty, a.k.a. Lamont Morris, first appeared in issue #130 of the G.I. Joe comic. Other confirmed Joe cast members are Ray Park, who's playing Snake Eyes, and Sienna Miller, who is set to play The Baroness. The live-action film will be casting up quickly for a February production start, so keep watching for more news. G.I. Joe is set to open on August 7, 2009. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit
I thought the reason Jackson wasn't directing was because he had another project in the works and it would take to long to get to the Hobbit. Seems like the same might be true of Raimi. I say we start a petition to bring Jackson back to the helm B --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit Spider-Man director Sam Raimi will return to his genre roots to helm Drag Me to Hell, a supernatural thriller he wrote with his brother, Ivan Raimi, Variety reported. After Drag Me to Hell, Raimi is expected to helm the Hobbit films for New Line and MGM now that Peter Jackson, who will executive-produce the movies, has made it clear he won't direct them, the trade paper reported. Hell, a morality tale about the unwitting recipient of a supernatural curse, will go into production early next year. It will be financed through Ghost House, a joint venture Raimi and Rob Tapert formed several years ago with Mandate Pictures. Raimi and Tapert will produce with Grant Curtis, and Josh Donen will executive-produce with Mandate's Nathan Kahane and Joe Drake. Tapert said the Raimis wrote the script well before the formation of Ghost House. It was originally written under the title The Curse and completed right after the siblings collaborated on 1992's Army of Darkness, which Sam Raimi directed. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46618 Yahoo! Groups Links I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [scifinoir2] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit
Huh I thought Jackson was directing. Will we have elves doing martial arts now? Will young master Toby make an appearance as young Bilbo? Will Halle Berry be cast as the first black eleven princess? Will we see heads and guts at the great dwarf battle? **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit
With Bruce Campbell as Gandalf. On Dec 20, 2007 8:33 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit Spider-Man director Sam Raimi will return to his genre roots to helm Drag Me to Hell, a supernatural thriller he wrote with his brother, Ivan Raimi, Variety reported. -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit
i am worried, still, that Jackson isn't going to direct. The only hope is that he, Fran, and the rest have major influence on the script and tone. And i can at least take heart in the fact that WETA will handle the FX, as I've never been impressed with the effects in the Spider-Man films, which have always been too obviously CGI... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit Spider-Man director Sam Raimi will return to his genre roots to helm Drag Me to Hell, a supernatural thriller he wrote with his brother, Ivan Raimi, Variety reported. After Drag Me to Hell, Raimi is expected to helm the Hobbit films for New Line and MGM now that Peter Jackson, who will executive-produce the movies, has made it clear he won't direct them, the trade paper reported. Hell, a morality tale about the unwitting recipient of a supernatural curse, will go into production early next year. It will be financed through Ghost House, a joint venture Raimi and Rob Tapert formed several years ago with Mandate Pictures. Raimi and Tapert will produce with Grant Curtis, and Josh Donen will executive-produce with Mandate's Nathan Kahane and Joe Drake. Tapert said the Raimis wrote the script well before the formation of Ghost House. It was originally written under the title The Curse and completed right after the siblings collaborated on 1992's Army of Darkness, which Sam Raimi directed. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46618 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit
For the needed combination of action, whimsy, drama, and true magic, I think I prefer Guillermo del Toro to sub for Jackson in directing these films. Wonder why he wasn't considered, or was he? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit Spider-Man director Sam Raimi will return to his genre roots to helm Drag Me to Hell, a supernatural thriller he wrote with his brother, Ivan Raimi, Variety reported. After Drag Me to Hell, Raimi is expected to helm the Hobbit films for New Line and MGM now that Peter Jackson, who will executive-produce the movies, has made it clear he won't direct them, the trade paper reported. Hell, a morality tale about the unwitting recipient of a supernatural curse, will go into production early next year. It will be financed through Ghost House, a joint venture Raimi and Rob Tapert formed several years ago with Mandate Pictures. Raimi and Tapert will produce with Grant Curtis, and Josh Donen will executive-produce with Mandate's Nathan Kahane and Joe Drake. Tapert said the Raimis wrote the script well before the formation of Ghost House. It was originally written under the title The Curse and completed right after the siblings collaborated on 1992's Army of Darkness, which Sam Raimi directed. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46618 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit
...or Alfonso Cuaron -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith Johnson) For the needed combination of action, whimsy, drama, and true magic, I think I prefer Guillermo del Toro to sub for Jackson in directing these films. Wonder why he wasn't considered, or was he? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit Spider-Man director Sam Raimi will return to his genre roots to helm Drag Me to Hell, a supernatural thriller he wrote with his brother, Ivan Raimi, Variety reported. After Drag Me to Hell, Raimi is expected to helm the Hobbit films for New Line and MGM now that Peter Jackson, who will executive-produce the movies, has made it clear he won't direct them, the trade paper reported. Hell, a morality tale about the unwitting recipient of a supernatural curse, will go into production early next year. It will be financed through Ghost House, a joint venture Raimi and Rob Tapert formed several year s ago with Mandate Pictures. Raimi and Tapert will produce with Grant Curtis, and Josh Donen will executive-produce with Mandate's Nathan Kahane and Joe Drake. Tapert said the Raimis wrote the script well before the formation of Ghost House. It was originally written under the title The Curse and completed right after the siblings collaborated on 1992's Army of Darkness, which Sam Raimi directed. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46618 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] USA Cancels Dead Zone
if i have anything to look forward to, it's that I only watched the first season of both the Dead Zone and The 4400, so i have a lot of good times coming up on DVD. Dead Zone surprised me with later seasons in how dark and complex it seemed to be, especially with the minister and his connection to the evil politician. What was that about, and what do you think the show has lost? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only saw a few of the episodes of the last season but it lost something. i could not watch it anymore http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46619 USA Cancels Dead Zone USA Network has officially canceled The Dead Zone, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The Dead Zone ran for six seasons. It was based on characters from Stephen King's book and was created by the late Michael Piller and his son, Shawn. Its premiere set a record for a series debut on basic cable, with 6.4 million viewers. The Dead Zone starred Anthony Michael Hall and Nicole de Boer. (USA Network is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.) Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit
yeah, he's gotta direct! -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought the reason Jackson wasn't directing was because he had another project in the works and it would take to long to get to the Hobbit. Seems like the same might be true of Raimi. I say we start a petition to bring Jackson back to the helm B --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit Spider-Man director Sam Raimi will return to his genre roots to helm Drag Me to Hell, a supernatural thriller he wrote with his brother, Ivan Raimi, Variety reported. After Drag Me to Hell, Raimi is expected to helm the Hobbit films for New Line and MGM now that Peter Jackson, who will executive-produce the movies, has made it clear he won't direct them, the trade paper reported. Hell, a morality tale about the unwitting recipient of a supernatural curse, will go into production early next year. It will be financed through Ghost House, a joint venture Raimi and Rob Tapert formed several years ago with Mandate Pictures. Raimi and Tapert will produce with Grant Curtis, and Josh Donen will executive-produce with Mandate's Nathan Kahane and Joe Drake. Tapert said the Raimis wrote the script well before the formation of Ghost House. It was originally written under the title The Curse and completed right after the siblings collaborated on 1992's Army of Darkness, which Sam Raimi directed. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46618 Yahoo! Groups Links I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Firefly Bargain
I was at Target tonight on my way home from work. I was cruising the DVD's looking for a film for one my sons and I noticed an endcap with Firefly Box Sets for $19.99. If you don't own this series, and you absolutely should, and you live near a Target, now is your chance. If it's not my favorite Sci-Fi series of all time, it's definitely top 5 for me. Sooo Gd. I'll be in my bunk Bosco Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[scifinoir2] Credit cards after death
This is so easy to see happening, customer service being what it is today. A lady died this past January, and Citibank billed her for February and March for their annual service charges on her credit card, and then added late fees and interest on the monthly charge. The balance had been $0.00, now is somewhere around $60.00! A family member placed a call to Citibank: . Family Member: I am calling to tell you that she died in January. . Bank: The account was never closed and the late fees and charges still apply. . Family Member: Maybe, you should turn it over to collections. . Bank: Since it is two months past due, it already has been. . Family Member: So, what will they do when they find out she is dead? . Bank: Either report her account to the frauds division or report her to the credit bureau, maybe both! . Family Member: Do you think God will be mad at her? . Bank: Excuse me? . Family Member: Did you just get what I was telling you - the part about her being dead? . Bank: Sir, you'll have to speak to my supervisor. Supervisor gets on the phone: o Family Member: I'm calling to tell you, she died in January. o Bank: The account was never closed and the late fees and charges still apply. o Family Member: You mean you want to collect from her estate? o Bank: (Stammer) Are you her lawyer? o Family Member: No, I'm her great nephew. (Lawyer info given) o Bank: Could you fax us a certificate of death? o Family Member: Sure. (fax number is given) After they get the fax: . Bank: Our system just isn't set-up for death. I don't know what more I can do to help. . Family Member: Well, if you figure it out, great! If not, you could just keep billing her. I don't think she will care. . Bank: Well, the late fees and charges do still apply. . Family Member: Would you like her new billing address? . Bank: That might help. . Family Member: Odessa Memorial Cemetery , Highway 129, Plot Number 69. . Bank: Sir, that's a cemetery! ! . Family Member: What do you do with dead people on your planet? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith
Yes...6-foot, fanged, clawed, fire-breathing Church mice! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meta Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:34 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith We certainly are, Tracey. Just ask my husband.:-) Meta --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart man. I think that trumps a Baltimore woman. Of course, you guys all know from experience with me that we Philly women are as meek as church mice...right, Right, RIGHT?!?!?!? :) --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com, James A. Landrith, Jr. james@ wrote: Bronx woman. (James sits in corner, quietly minding Ps and Qs for 14 years and counting) ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com .. Original Message ... On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Astromancer cwbadie@ wrote: (whispering close to the screen after shutting study room doors) It aint just Baltimore women... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith
Maurice, Martin? I'm afraid... Meta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We certainly are, Tracey. Just ask my husband.:-) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart man. I think that trumps a Baltimore woman. Of course, you guys all know from experience with me that we Philly women are as meek as church mice...right, Right, RIGHT?!?!?!? :) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, James A. Landrith, Jr. james@ wrote: Bronx woman. (James sits in corner, quietly minding Ps and Qs for 14 years and counting) ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com .. Original Message ... On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Astromancer cwbadie@ wrote: (whispering close to the screen after shutting study room doors) It aint just Baltimore women... Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so Ill only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really dont want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith
Maurice? Maurice who? :o) (arms flailing, running screaming past Independence Hall) Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:13 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith Maurice, Martin? I'm afraid... Meta [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:hettrek%40yahoo.com com wrote: We certainly are, Tracey. Just ask my husband.:-) Meta --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Smart man. I think that trumps a Baltimore woman. Of course, you guys all know from experience with me that we Philly women are as meek as church mice...right, Right, RIGHT?!?!?!? :) --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com, James A. Landrith, Jr. james@ wrote: Bronx woman. (James sits in corner, quietly minding Ps and Qs for 14 years and counting) ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com .. Original Message ... On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:23:13 -0800 (PST) Astromancer cwbadie@ wrote: (whispering close to the screen after shutting study room doors) It aint just Baltimore women... Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really don't want to get them interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Speaking of Will Smith
It started with Six Degrees Of Seperation in my humble opinion... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how long before his rep has grown enough to do that? -- Original message -- From: Astromancer I think Smith has done his research and knows what we know about the market. He is a smart man, so he is going to put his money into what sells...maybe later, if he has such a mind to do so, he'll do the films you talk about...By then, his reputation alone will pull the audience he need for success...The Happyness film is a quasi-example of that... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Keith: I decide to read what I missed before on Smith's Profile on Internet Movie Database and I saw that the man has really stepped up his activity as a producer in recent years. In addition to Hancock, he has eight flicks in various stages of production. With just a cursory glance, none look like they are Black or Black love, but some look interesting. Just some food for thought.. All of your points are valid, but there is one thing I do not get the impression that you have considered. Black on Black love in film does not even a high profile topic within the Black community or among Blacks in the entertainment industry. I guess I'm saying that for years people have been saying that there are no positive Black stories in Hollywood and a few people took some risks and we are starting to see these stories. We had to hear it or a long time before there was noticeable movement in that area. With two biopics, I would include Smith among those people who is seeking to address that issue. I also wonder if most African Americans feel that niche is being filled with the Black films we see that barely make it to the big screen. I do not see the same type of push in Holly weird (even among Blacks) for that type of story. I could be way off base. Is it true, do Black in Hollywood not really push for the Black on Black thing? Speaking of that..it just hit me...with the exception of McMillan adaptations, Angela Bassett is always paired with a white male. I take that back, she had a non-existent relationship with the Black guy on Alias. I say non-existent, because you did not know about it until they were deep into it. Please note: I was moving out of the country at the time, so it is possible I missed some episodes that covered when they were getting together. If that is the case please let me know [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that brings us full circle back to my question: why does a man who's pulled in well over a hundred million in up front salary in the last few years not take a stand and fight for a Black woman as his love interest in a film? -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco Will Smith actually owns his own production company Overbrook Entertainment. I think he pretty much does whatever he wants to at this point. This is from the IMDB: Graduate of Philly's legendary Overbrook High School, whose alumni include Wilt Chamberlain, Hal Lear, Wali Jones, Walt Hazzard, The Dovells, The Orlons, DeeDee Sharp, etc. and in tribute to his student years there, his production company is called Overbrook Entertainment. The company produce the following movies: Ali, Showtime, I-Robot, Hitch, Saving Face, ATL, and Pursuit of Happiness. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: Agreed. Most at his level have made just that move, but for some reason (perhaps kids as you suggest) Smith hasn't taken the plunge. If he does, it will be interesting to see what he does. Justin Mohareb wrote: At this point, it's pretty much possible for an established star to put their own production company together, pick a project they want, and get it done themselves. I'm pretty sure he could put something together for a couple million dollars if he wanted to. Look at some of the stuff Clooney has done (Good Night, Good Luck) or the Bobby Kennedy movie. These were projects the creators believed in, so they made them happen. Maybe when his kids are older. JJ Mohareb On Dec 18, 2007 4:39 PM, Mike Street wrote: Hummminteresting concept. But I'm sure he still a slave to corporate. Now that you bring this up I can't even remember a movie of his that has a black female as his co-star. I was sure that he would link up with a Gab. Union, Janet, Halle, or one of them sisters for a role. But i guess cause he's in sci-fi so much that a lot of his roles didn't call for a love interest or they went the safe route with a Spanish chick. But maybe he will shock us all -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm