[scifinoir2] marijuana farm in nunnery tops 2007 weird news

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

  BERLIN (Reuters) - From a Greek nunnery turned into a marijuana farm 
by two men posing as gardeners to a South African man with a gunshot 
wound told by a doctor to "walk the pain off," the world was full of 
weird news in 2007.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071230/od_nm/year_dc_1

A Moscow woman set fire to her ex-husband's penis as he sat naked 
watching television and drinking vodka. The couple divorced three years 
ago but continued to share a small flat.

"I was burning like a torch," the wounded ex-husband told Tvoi Den 
newspaper. "I don't know what I did to deserve this."

In another unusual living arrangement, a German man left his dead mother 
seated in her favorite armchair at their shared home for two years after 
her death of natural causes at age 92.

Yet not everything that smelled like a corpse was really dead in 2007. 
In the German town of Kaiserslautern, police broke into a darkened flat 
expecting to find a corpse after neighbors complained of a nasty smell 
seeping out into the hallway.

But instead they found a tenant with very smelly feet asleep in bed next 
to a pile of extremely foul-smelling laundry.

There were sadly many deaths in 2007 that were hardly noticed, such as 
in Zagreb, where a Croatian man who boarded a night tram and died in his 
seat rode through the city for more than six hours before the driver 
discovered he was dead.

CORGI MEAT BALLS?

Unusual diets made headlines in 2007 -- such as: "No more crispy duck at 
Beijing toilets." Food stalls attached to Beijing's public toilets were 
banned ahead of the Olympics after complaints over toilets with poor 
sanitation.

Also in China, 66-year-old Jiang Musheng said 40 years of swallowing 
live tree frogs and rats helped him avoid intestinal pain and made him 
strong.

British artist Mark McGowan ate a meal of meatballs made from a dead 
corgi dog in a protest against animal cruelty. He said the corgi, which 
died from natural causes, tasted terrible.

Criminals filled odd news headlines around the world. In the United 
States, two Colorado men were accused of plotting to kill a man with 
rattlesnakes in a dispute over a $60,000 poker debt.

"It's a story out of the Wild West -- there's poker, rattlesnakes and 
unsavory characters," said Lance Clem, of the Colorado Bureau of 
Investigation. "You've got a bunch of snakes becoming involved with a 
bunch of snakes."

In Sarajevo, two armed men disguised as Muslim women in burqas held up a 
bank and escaped with $40,000.

A Zimbabwe man stole a bus because he needed transport to get his 
driving license.

A German bus driver threw a 20-year-old off because he said she was too 
sexy for his bus. "He opened the door and shouted 'Your cleavage is 
distracting me every time I look into my mirror and I can't concentrate 
on the traffic'," the woman said.

In La Paz, the winner of a Bolivian beauty contest was stripped of her 
title moments after her coronation when judges noticed she was wearing 
false hair plaits.

Climate change found its way into weird news. A Hummer owner in Russia's 
St. Petersburg gave activists the green light to pelt his oversized 
vehicle with rotten eggs and tomatoes.

A 60-year-old German man stunned lawyers during his appeal hearing on a 
flashing conviction by stripping off in court.

Every story needs a happy ending and Bangkok delivered for this one. A 
76-year-old Malay Muslim woman from southern Thailand got on the wrong 
bus 25 years ago and got lost, ending up living as a beggar at the other 
end of the country.

But in 2007 she was finally reunited with her family.

(Editing by Alison Williams)


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Happy New Year

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Hey Grayson!

Thanks for weighing in with a New Years greeting.  Loud mouth that I am 
on this list, I lurk on most other, so I understand the joys of 
Lurking.  However, I hope you find time to post here in the New Year

By the way, I just set up a fold of links for members who have books 
they want to let members know about.  Why don't you post a link to your 
book web site at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/links/Our_Members__Books_001199251275/
Short Link at:
*http://tinyurl.com/2cj95e

A belated welcome to the group
*grayson.reyescole wrote:
> Hey Y'all
>
> I'm new to this community and haven't posted at all, but I have to 
> say I really love it, too. The conversation is thought-provoking but 
> still fun. I havfe to feel at home in a place where people who watch 
> Omega Man and get the same kick out of it that I do... Which is 
> different from the kick I get out of Plan 9 from Outer Space.
>
> Anyhow, hopefully 2008 will afford me more time to be an active 
> participant, but just so you all know, I'm glad to be here. Thanks 
> for having me.
>
>
> Happy New Year!
>
> Grayson Reyes-Cole
> Author of The Delicious Dark Side
> Sometimes hilarious, sometimes dark, always sexy, The Delicious Dark 
> Side is waiting for you...
> www.graysonreyescole.com
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
> Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Back at you!  You guys are great!
>>
>> Daryle wrote:
>> 
>>> This is my absolute favorite online community of all time. It is 
>>>   
> also now
>   
>>> the only one I actively contribute to.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for a fun and interesting  year.
>>>
>>> May you  all  have a safe and prosperous 2008.
>>>
>>>
>>> Daryle
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[scifinoir2] Re: Happy New Year

[grayson.reyescole]

Hey Y'all

I'm new to this community and haven't posted at all, but I have to 
say I really love it, too. The conversation is thought-provoking but 
still fun. I havfe to feel at home in a place where people who watch 
Omega Man and get the same kick out of it that I do... Which is 
different from the kick I get out of Plan 9 from Outer Space.

Anyhow, hopefully 2008 will afford me more time to be an active 
participant, but just so you all know, I'm glad to be here. Thanks 
for having me.


Happy New Year!

Grayson Reyes-Cole
Author of The Delicious Dark Side
Sometimes hilarious, sometimes dark, always sexy, The Delicious Dark 
Side is waiting for you...
www.graysonreyescole.com

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella (formerly 
Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Back at you!  You guys are great!
> 
> Daryle wrote:
> > This is my absolute favorite online community of all time. It is 
also now
> > the only one I actively contribute to.
> >
> > Thank you all for a fun and interesting  year.
> >
> > May you  all  have a safe and prosperous 2008.
> >
> >
> > Daryle
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RE: [scifinoir2] Ways to Avoid A Good Southern Ass-Whuppin'

[james]

All I can think of now is the the cross-examination of a witness in My
Cousin Vinny.

"Were these magic grits?  Did you buy them from the same place Jack got
his bean stalk beans?"

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> "Never order a grit. Waitresses do not find this amusing.
>
> Martin (speaking from personal experience...)"
>
>
> LOLLOLLOL
>
>  Maurice Jennings
> Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
> KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
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RE: [scifinoir2] Ways to Avoid A Good Southern Ass-Whuppin'

[Reece Jennings]

"Never order a grit. Waitresses do not find this amusing.

Martin (speaking from personal experience...)"
 
 
LOLLOLLOL
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:42 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Ways to Avoid A Good Southern Ass-Whuppin'



LMNAO!

And, if I may, adding one more...

Never order a grit. Waitresses do not find this amusing.

Martin (speaking from personal experience...)

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: 

This seems like a little different version than I remember but hey...you
never know. 


Don't fake a Southern accent. This will incite a riot, and you will get
your ass kicked. 

~` ~
Don't order filet mignon or pasta primavera at Waffle House. It's just a
diner. They serve breakfast 24 hours a day. Let them cook something they
know. If you confuse them, they'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
We are fully aware of how high the humidity is, so shut the hell up.
Just spend your money and get the hell out of here, or we'll kick your
ass. 

~` ~
Don't order a bottle of pop or a can of soda down here. Down here it's
called 'Drink.' Nobody gives a flying rat's ass whether it's Pepsi, RC,
Dr. Pepper, 7-Up or whatever...it's still a Drink. Accept it. Doing
otherwise can lead to an ass-kicking. 

~` ~
We know our heritage. Most of us are more literate than you (e.g.,Eudora
Welty, Tennessee Williams, William Faulkner); most of us are also better
educated, and generally a lot nicer. Don't refer to us as a bunch of
hillbillies or we'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
We have plenty of business sense (e.g., Fred Smith of Fed Ex, Sam
Walton, Oprah, Turner Broadcasting, MTV, Netscape). Naturally, we do,
sometimes, have small lapses in judgment. If you keep reminding us of
the fact, we will kick your ass. 

~` ~
Don't laugh at our Civil War monuments. 
If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg
instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you'd be paying taxes to
Richmond instead of Washington. If you visit Stone Mountain and complain
about the carving, we'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
Don't laugh at our Southern names (Merleen, John Luther, Tammy Lynn,
Inez, Billy Ray, Sissy, Clovis, etc.) or we will just HAVE to kick your
ass. 

~` ~
Don't order wheat toast at Cracker Barrel. Everyone will instantly know
that you're a Yankee. Eat your biscuits like God intended -- with gravy.
And don't put sugar on your grits, or we'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
Don't talk about how much better things are at home because we know
better. 
Many of us have visited Northern hell-holes like Detroit, Chicago, and
DC, and we have the scars to prove it. If you don't like it here, Delta
is ready when you are. Move your ass on home before it gets kicked. 

~` ~
Yes, we know how to speak proper English. We talk this way because we
don't want to sound like you. We don't care if you don't understand what
we are saying. All other Southerners understand what we are saying, and
that's all that matters. Now, go away and leave us alone, or we'll kick
your ass. 

~` ~
Don't complain that the South is dirty and polluted. None of OUR lakes
or rivers have caught fire recently. If you whine about OURscenic
beauty, we'll kick your ass all the way back to Boston Harbor or Lake
Erie. 

~` ~
Don't ridicule our Southern manners. We say sir and ma'am. We hold doors
open for others. We offer our seats to old folks because such things are
expected of civilized people. Behave yourselves around our sweet little
gray-haired grandmothers or they'll kick some manners into your ass just
like they did ours. 

~` ~
So you think we're quaint, or losers, because most of us live in the
countryside? That's because we have enough sense to not live in filthy,
smelly, crime-infested places like New York, Baltimore or Boston. Make
fun of our fresh air, and we'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
Last, but not least, DO NOT DARE to come down here and tell us how to
cook. This will get your ass shot (right after it is kicked). You're
lucky we let you come down here at all. Criticize our cooking, and you
will go home in a pine box... minus your ass! 


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RE: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Reece Jennings]

Amen, Martin.  Amen!
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:37 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone



I'll take Reece's mindset to heart, and brand this a intention.

A few years back, my younger sister handed me a couple of copied pages from
a huge book of horoscopes she'd read at work. Normally, I pay these things
about as much mind as I do Harlequin romance novels (one of mine last week
said that I needed to be careful in my financial investments- as if a guy on
a fixed income can make investments :P), but this one had me down to a t,
right down to my ability to handle the affairs of others, no matter how
little I knew them, with aplomb, but that the most difficult task I would
ever undertake would be in taking the reins of my own life. That latter is
precisely what I intend.

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: I don't make resolutions any more. I do have intentions, though...

I intend to ramp up my business for saving people from foreclosure, etc. I
have been so wrapped up
in my parents' issues with getting older, losing mental grip, physical
deals, assisted living, nursing homes,
bypass surgery, SARS, blood
clots...HH!

Ahem...anyway, I'm going to find time to devote to my business.

I already kept one intention. I changed the locks on my house about an hour
ago and took my lady friend's
alarm code out of my system. I packed up all of her stuff into 2 suitcases,
and called her to let her know I
was bringing it by.

I'm a cranky old fart! I can't handle the emotional stretching with my
parents and a relationship with a woman.
Maybe I'll turn gay and get a boyfriend. Then we can just have sex when we
want. Guys understand that kind
of behavior. NOT EEEWWW!!! LOLLOLLOL

I need a moment... :o)

Maurice Jennings
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Subject: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

What New Years Resolutions Have you made? However about last year? Did you
keep the ones that you made last year?

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Favorite Trek Movie Re: [scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Search for Spock did it for me as well.  I know you say your shocked 
that Shatner would be excluded from the new Movie because he is the star 
around which the show is based.  However, if you look back throughout 
the series and the movies, I think you might see that frequently Spock 
is used to bring characters together, to explain key points of a story 
through his vantage point, or he takes  some action that for me often 
drives the story.  In Wrath of Khan, he did that famous "needs of the 
many line," as you pointed out, "The Search for Spock" had the emotional 
impact of Kirk and McCoy risking all to save him, and on the voyage 
home, he provided comic relief to show them being the fish out of water 
here on earth in the nineties.  While I think Kirk is a key ingredient 
to the Trek legacy that without him it would not likely even exist, I 
think that for some reason Spock touches the fans in a deeper way, if 
that is at all possible for a "space western"

u...I went off topic.  oh well, what are you thoughts?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Funny about Bourne: everyone i know or read says the third film is the best 
> in the series. Due to all the amazing action and fight scenes, no doubt. Yet 
> i still think the first film is the best, because along with the action, it 
> had the great suspense and mystery as Jason (and we) tried to figure out who 
> he was.  The mix of the suspense, the action, the locales, and his 
> relationship with his lady made that film really enjoyable. I *love* the 
> third film, but it didn't reach me as emotionally as the first.
> this happens to me a lot. For example,  from the Star Trek trilogy of films 
> with the OS crew that started with Khan, most people I know love the Trek 
> films "Wrath of Khan" (great over-the-top action and acting) or "The Voyage 
> Home" (fun and funny ).   I love those, but the one that stays with me most 
> is "The Search for Spock" with its emotional impact of Kirk and McCoy risking 
> all to save a friend.The beginning of Spock's death replayed on black and 
> white, the obvious sadness of Sarek when he thinks Spock's essence is gone? 
> Powerful. The scene of the Enterprise falling from the sky, Kirk looking at 
> saying "My God, Bones, What have i done". Chokes me up even now. Kirk's son 
> David killed. Sad. The Klingon Bird of Prey soaring through the Vulcan skies 
> to Mount
> Seleya? Moving. And the final scene when Spock says "Jim...your name is Jim". 
> Sends me soaring. all the action and FX and aliens in those movies, and it's 
> the emotional bits in "Search for Spock" that i keep going back too.
>
> Friends will love a movie that's chock full of action and fight and FX, and I 
> may like a similar film that's similarly action-packed but a little deeper 
> emotionally, and they roll their eyes at me.
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Alvin and the C-Munks (already covered this sordid affair here)
>
> All 3 Bourne movies (DVD marathon today) - excellent as always
>
> Over the Hedge - enjoyed this one in the theatre and again on DVD
>
> Spent the rest of the time on History Channel.
>
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> Tracey said:
>
>   
>> Hey Gang:
>>
>> What movies did you watch over the holidays? The would include in the
>> 
> theatre, on DVD, and on TV. What movies did you like and which were
> duds?
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[scifinoir2] Re: Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[tdemorsella]

I enjoyed the third movie, but the first and the second reminded me of
the First two of the aliens series.  Both were extremely well done, in
but very different flavors.  The third was good, I enjoyed it, I got
what I came for, but I did not feel the excitement and "emotional
investment that I felt during the first two films.  I don't know why,
but nevertheless I have no complaints 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Funny about Bourne: everyone i know or read says the third film is
the best in the series. Due to all the amazing action and fight
scenes, no doubt. Yet i still think the first film is the best,
because along with the action, it had the great suspense and mystery
as Jason (and we) tried to figure out who he was.  The mix of the
suspense, the action, the locales, and his relationship with his lady
made that film really enjoyable. I *love* the third film, but it
didn't reach me as emotionally as the first.
> this happens to me a lot. For example,  from the Star Trek trilogy
of films with the OS crew that started with Khan, most people I know
love the Trek films "Wrath of Khan" (great over-the-top action and
acting) or "The Voyage Home" (fun and funny ).   I love those, but the
one that stays with me most is "The Search for Spock" with its
emotional impact of Kirk and McCoy risking all to save a friend.   
The beginning of Spock's death replayed on black and white, the
obvious sadness of Sarek when he thinks Spock's essence is gone?
Powerful. The scene of the Enterprise falling from the sky, Kirk
looking at saying "My God, Bones, What have i done". Chokes me up even
now. Kirk's son David killed. Sad. The Klingon Bird of Prey soaring
through the Vulcan skies to Mount
> Seleya? Moving. And the final scene when Spock says "Jim...your name
is Jim". Sends me soaring. all the action and FX and aliens in those
movies, and it's the emotional bits in "Search for Spock" that i keep
going back too.
> 
> Friends will love a movie that's chock full of action and fight and
FX, and I may like a similar film that's similarly action-packed but a
little deeper emotionally, and they roll their eyes at me.
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Alvin and the C-Munks (already covered this sordid affair here)
> 
> All 3 Bourne movies (DVD marathon today) - excellent as always
> 
> Over the Hedge - enjoyed this one in the theatre and again on DVD
> 
> Spent the rest of the time on History Channel.
> 
> __
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> Tracey said:
> 
> > Hey Gang:
> >
> > What movies did you watch over the holidays? The would include in the
> theatre, on DVD, and on TV. What movies did you like and which were
> duds?
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Mike Street]

You have to not think of it as a diet but as just a change in eatting
habits. I have moments when I want to woof down a whole Papa John's
pizza.

Weight Wathers is the best cause you can actually eat. I tried South
Beach but I can't get into it. The Abs diet is the only other diet I
would recommend.

On Jan 1, 2008 10:49 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> good luck, and glad your health is stabilized. I don't do "diets" much,
> preferring to change my diet rather than go on a diet, if that makes sense.
> But as a way to get started on good eating and health and learn about the
> best ways to feed your body, Weight Watchers is very good in my opinion. I
> always favor diet plans that don't force you to buy their food, and WW helps
> you learn to make intelligent choices with the food you buy. That's the only
> real way to go. Another good one to help kickstart things is South Beach. It
> starts with a 2 -4 week plan that can be pretty rough: giving up sugars,
> carbs, red meat, etc. But that functions as a detox and addiction killing
> period and is worth it. I did the Phase I (the two week bland diet) and I
> dropped pounds and inches like crazy.
>
>  The thing is, most addictions to food--and we Americans are addicted to
> things like white bread, white rice, white sugar, starches, processed foods,
> salt, caffeine, etc.--can be broken in about 2 -4 weeks. Force yourself to
> give up some of the bad stuff for that time, and your cravings will drop
> remarkably. It's the easiest/hardest thing you can do, but most of us just
> never take the time to try the weaning off period.
>
>
>  -- Original message --
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Didn't make any last year, but my goals this year:
>
>  1 - To really lose weight this year. Now that my health is back in check
>  (had a nasty H-flu infection all summer and most of the fall), I would
>  like to dump at least 50 pounds. I had previously dumped 60 pounds on
>  Atkins, but gained it all back after a varicocelectomy that required more
>  than the normal period of recovery, combined with stress on the job and a
>  different commute that involves more car transport and less walking in the
>  Metro. The Wife has talked me into trying Weight Watchers this time.
>
>  2 - To blog more. My syndication agreement requires a specified minimum
>  number of entries per week, but I'd been pre-occupied and too fatigued
>  earlier this year to keep up due to employment chaos and spousal
>  illnesses.
>
>  3 - Attend 20 year class reunion without jacking anyone up. No doubt I
>  will run into some of the worthless ass-goblins who tormented my small,
>  unpopular self for years before I left to join the USMC. From what I've
>  researched, few of them amounted to jack. My intent is to get through the
>  evening homicide-free. :)
>
>  I'll stop here. There are a few more, but they involve whip cream and
>  Gina Torres. Mr. Fishburne may object...
>
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>  Tracey said:
>
>  > What New Years Resolutions Have you made? However about last year? Did
>  > you keep the ones that you made last year?
>  >
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Re: [scifinoir2] "National Treasure 2" Rules Box Office - :(

[KeithBJohnson]

too true! But then, I cut my teeth driving on I-30 between Dallas-Fort Worth 
late night. It was me and the truckers, battling for supremacy; when i wasn't 
there, i was negotiating the fast and fluid traffic of Houston. All that combat 
experience makes me about as home on the Atlanta roads as Speed Racer going up 
against the Car Acrobatic Team

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
For those who've never had the pleasure of living in-slash-visiting Atlanta, 
Keith's wife doesn't like driving on the freeways because she likes living...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i feel you. When i take days off i rarely spend all 
day at the house. I will work in the yard for a while, maybe do some chores. 
But after a few hours i get lonely and need to be around people. So I always go 
to the gym and take classes, then meet a friend for lunch, or my wife. Or, i'll 
just go to the bookstore or the park to be around people. although i love to 
write, i don't often write in solitude. I like to go to a coffee shop or the 
park and write. that's one reason i don't like watching movies at home only. i 
really miss interacting with people at the theatre.

I think some of this is because i was often very lonely as a child. but a lot 
of it is due to my personality. I really am a strong extrovert.

As for where you live, i pay a hell of a lot more mortgage for living IP 
(Inside the Perimeter, the loop around Atlanta) than I'd pay if I lived in the 
suburbs. The main issue was quality of life: I like the diversity closer in, 
the proximity to malls and theatres and downtown (though I'm ten miles away 
from the city), and the better choices in roads. In the 'burbs, there's usually 
only one or two roads that one can take to get to the city, and they often get 
clogged and backed up. Living closer in, one has more choices of taking 
surface, residential streets to get around. My wife doesn't like driving on the 
freeway much, and we can get all the way to downtown Atlanta without ever 
getting on the freeway. if we lived in the 'burbs, she'd have to get on 
congested roads every day. I'd lie to live truly down closer to the city, but a 
house the size of the one i have now (2300 square feet), in the same condition 
(1981) would cost half a million on the low end

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
You know, after a decade of working at home, I really enjoyed my stint 
at Merrill Lynch and sometimes think about going in to work a Microsoft 
once I'm well. I loved the interaction with the people and the laid 
back atmosphere of the IT department. I still miss that and them. It 
was a fun place before O'Neal's influence could be felt. It puts you on 
on a social auto-pilot that you hinted at below that is difficult to 
maintain when you are self-employed, and are not required to go out. 
Right now, I live in the suburbs because my husband wanted to be able to 
reach me if I had an emergency and was incapacitated. Also its cheaper 
out here and we had to live off one salary during me illness. However, 
I've been trying to explain to my Mom that why we want to move to an 
active part of the city is because it is easier to roll out of bed and 
do things. In the past, if I had easy access to activities, I stayed 
more social. If it required a lot of effort to get through, eventually 
I would stop the activity. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Having to go to work everyday helped me, as there are some folks there I'm 
> able to talk and joke with (none in my immediate group, unfortunately). 
> Having gone through this before with my dad's death, and during a period when 
> I was unemployed for a few months, I literally have been forcing myself to 
> get up and out: going to movies, bookstores, going out to eat, hitting the 
> gym. Christmas was the worst, because this is the first Christmas in a decade 
> where I couldn't go back to Texas to be with family (had to work). it was sad 
> and lonely being here in Atlanta, but again I forced myself to smile when I 
> wanted to cry, to laugh when I wanted to yell.
>
> Having this group to talk to about stuff really helps too-more than you'd 
> believe.
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of 
> death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately 
> during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married 
> and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want 
> to inflict it on them.
>
> Reece Jennings wrote:
> 
>> I hear you!
>>
>> Maurice Jennings
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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

[KeithBJohnson]

very cool

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Well, I played football for about 20 years. Ended in the Air Force. My
coach was going
to get me a scholarship to USC or UCLA, but we played an all-star game
against a Marine
team from Japan. I was a wide receiver. I never got hit so hard in my
life! Never wanted to 
play tackle football again!

When I got to CT, my younger brother was already an official, and he talked
me into trying it.
He was one of my mentors. I have never regretted doing it. In fact, Youth
football pays 
quite well. We make 60 bucks a game, and we officiate at least 3 games on a
Sunday.
They pay cash. It's not about the money, though...not completely!

And talk about firsts...we had NO Referees (White-Hats) in our association
up until 2000. 
I pushed my brother to do it before me, but he was splitting his time
between coaching his
sons and doing games. So I became the first White Hat in our association.
You don't get
more money, but you're the crew chief. Great position!

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:44 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

that's quite interesting. how'd you get into that?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> 
High school and youth football. I've done some Semi-pro games, and a couple
of college 
scrimmages.

Maurice Jennings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
Behalf Of KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

i forgot that; what do you referee?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> 
I am a Zebra (note the capitalization!), and I know and agree with the
words.
We are human, and mistakes with calls, while hard to take, are sometimes
made.
That's the reason for instant replay. I have some calls I've made that I
would
give anything to take back.

But to put hands on a player...NEVER!!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

I ahve many words for zebras. Most of them would get this group shut down
again.

In so many words, that was the live-action version of that Bud commercial,
in which the zebra overhears a defensive coordinator exhorting his squad
with promises of beer for a good hit, which drives the zebra to make a
monster hit on the quarterback, and do a full celebration over the fallen
player. He got too caught up in the moment, forgot that he was there to be
neutral.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
WTF?? What's up with this umpire that he's tackling and choking players--in
more than one game? Shouldn't he just get out of the way if the melee gets
out of hand? Heck, what does he do if a maddened player inadvertently starts
whaling on him--bring mace or a stun gun to the stadium?
Maybe this ump needs to audition for the new American Gladiators!!
**
[From Wisconsis radio and AP sources]
GREEN BAY - After saying earlier in the week that it wouldn't take
discipline umpire Jim Quirk, who pulled Green Bay Packers linebacker Nick
Barnett down from behind in a choke hold during a skirmish during last
Sunday's game at Chicago, the NFL announced Friday that it fined Quirk for
"inappropriate physi

Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[KeithBJohnson]

good luck, and glad your health is stabilized. I don't do "diets" much, 
preferring to change my diet rather than go on a diet, if that makes sense. But 
as a way to get started on good eating and health and learn about the best ways 
to feed your body, Weight Watchers is very good in my opinion. I always favor 
diet plans that don't force you to buy their food, and WW helps you learn to 
make intelligent choices with the food you buy. That's the only real way to go. 
  Another good one to help kickstart things is South Beach. It starts with a 2 
-4 week plan that can be pretty rough: giving up sugars, carbs, red meat, etc. 
But that functions as a detox and addiction killing period and is worth it. I 
did the Phase I (the two week bland diet) and I dropped pounds and inches like 
crazy.

The thing is, most addictions to food--and we Americans are addicted to things 
like white bread, white rice, white sugar, starches, processed foods, salt, 
caffeine, etc.--can be broken in about 2 -4 weeks. Force yourself to give up 
some of the bad stuff for that time, and your cravings will drop remarkably. 
It's the easiest/hardest thing you can do, but most of us just never take the 
time to try the weaning off period.

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Didn't make any last year, but my goals this year:

1 - To really lose weight this year. Now that my health is back in check
(had a nasty H-flu infection all summer and most of the fall), I would
like to dump at least 50 pounds. I had previously dumped 60 pounds on
Atkins, but gained it all back after a varicocelectomy that required more
than the normal period of recovery, combined with stress on the job and a
different commute that involves more car transport and less walking in the
Metro. The Wife has talked me into trying Weight Watchers this time.

2 - To blog more. My syndication agreement requires a specified minimum
number of entries per week, but I'd been pre-occupied and too fatigued
earlier this year to keep up due to employment chaos and spousal
illnesses.

3 - Attend 20 year class reunion without jacking anyone up. No doubt I
will run into some of the worthless ass-goblins who tormented my small,
unpopular self for years before I left to join the USMC. From what I've
researched, few of them amounted to jack. My intent is to get through the
evening homicide-free. :)

I'll stop here. There are a few more, but they involve whip cream and
Gina Torres. Mr. Fishburne may object...

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Tracey said:

> What New Years Resolutions Have you made? However about last year? Did
> you keep the ones that you made last year?
>


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

[KeithBJohnson]

you know V-103 (the main "urban" station here in Atlanta, for those who don't 
know) threw him a big-A birthday bash just a few weeks ago? Again, i don't 
subscribe to the witch hunt mentality of judging people before conviction, but 
this is a little beyond that...

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Woody Allen is someone I've *never* been a fan of, which drives some of my 
close friends to distraction, since they adore his stuff. His Youth Movement 
sealed the deal on him for me. As for that pedo rapper- let us never speak of 
him again. Unless it's the day he's going into Joliet for the rest of his 
life...

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Lou 
Rawls was on my list too. I think he still is. got no desire to 
see or hear him. I think over the past few years, there has been an 
increase in the number of entertainers whose lives and opinions we have 
been exposed to. Afterward we are bombarded with these views. So, I 
get disgusted, boycott them and over time, I sometimes find I can 
separate. Seinfeld is an example of something i can not watch. i don't 
see ever getting over that one. I really don't have a desire to see 
Uncle Jed and the family, but I notice now he does not upset me like he 
did when I first tried watching it after hearing what he did. I've seen 
the Scifi movies of Charleton Heston we mentioned so many time, I do not 
have a desire to watch, but again, I'm not driven away the way I used to 
and I can again think of those movies affectionately. Ironically, this 
happened some time after he announced he had Alzheimer's. It's like I 
felt he was punished enough. Not that he cares what I think

I'm not sure, but I think death, debilitating illness, or real hard 
times allows me to sometimes reacquire my affection for characters, 
shows, movies or the work of an asshole performer. 

Then again, I'm going on 20 years with Woody Allen. I did watch two of 
his movies over the past few years and felt guilty both times. I guess 
I'm not a big enough fan, so I have not watched any Woody stuff since. 
For a long time, I could not watch anything by John Wayne, now, if I 
here a movie he did is good, I will sometimes check it out. Clint 
Eastwood has been accused for domestic abuse on numerous occasions. I 
love his work in front of and behind the camera. Avoided him for a long 
time. Now I watch his stuff. Maybe I can watch his stuff because I do 
not hear about him kicking anyone's A** anymore. There are so many 
more. These people in Hollywood often seem ethically challenged. 

Maybe over the years, I have become ethically challenged as well. Don't 
know. 

Martin wrote:
> Tracey, I usually can't make that distinction. If someone famous does 
> something egregious, that's it for me, with regards to them. Wesley Snipes is 
> a prime example, for the reported way he regards women. Same with Lou Rawls. 
> I used to love his music until I learned of his barely-disguised misogyny. 
> After that, I tossed every album of his I had. Yes, kids, *albums*. Worth 
> *plenty*, had I bothered to sell them. Dislike is dislike, for me.
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Too much work for me. I have just learned to separate the characters 
> these people play from their characters. Otherwise, I'd be avoiding 
> more than a quarter of what I watch. So I like uncle Jed and Barnaby 
> Jones, but dislike Buddy Epson
>
> Martin wrote:
> 
>> Tracey, I'm not having that difficulty...
>>
>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
>> was thinking about Uncle Jed today. When I heard that, I was 
>> crushed. Same thing with him, try as I might, I can not hate him
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> the problem comes in when good hearted people with good intentions do 
>>> horrible things--which i think is probably the greater problem in humanity 
>>> than that caused by truly "evil" men doing evil things. I really don't 
>>> believe the likes of Heston or Stewart hate people; at least, not in the 
>>> way a Klansman might hate me. They honestly think their worldview is better 
>>> for everyone--me included. Again, it's the well-meaning people who rule us 
>>> with well-intentioned force that's the problem.
>>>
>>> By the way, add Buddy Ebsen to that group of extreme conservatives. Don't 
>>> know if you knew this, but the lady who played Miss Jane on "The Beverly 
>>> Hillbillies" --Nancy Kulp--ran for Congress as a Democrat from 
>>> Pennsylvania. Without warning her, Ebsen taped a radio ad for her 
>>> Republican opponent. The ad ended with the line, "I love you Nancy, but 
>>> you're too liberal for me". Culp was defeated by a 2-to-1 vote. This was in 
>>> the Reagan years, and her liberalism and probably known lifestyle (Kulp was 
>>> gay) probably would have lost her the election anyway, but Ebsen's 
>>> backstabbing betrayal devastated Culp

Re: [scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[KeithBJohnson]

Funny about Bourne: everyone i know or read says the third film is the best in 
the series. Due to all the amazing action and fight scenes, no doubt. Yet i 
still think the first film is the best, because along with the action, it had 
the great suspense and mystery as Jason (and we) tried to figure out who he 
was.  The mix of the suspense, the action, the locales, and his relationship 
with his lady made that film really enjoyable. I *love* the third film, but it 
didn't reach me as emotionally as the first.
this happens to me a lot. For example,  from the Star Trek trilogy of films 
with the OS crew that started with Khan, most people I know love the Trek films 
"Wrath of Khan" (great over-the-top action and acting) or "The Voyage Home" 
(fun and funny ).   I love those, but the one that stays with me most is "The 
Search for Spock" with its emotional impact of Kirk and McCoy risking all to 
save a friend.The beginning of Spock's death replayed on black and white, 
the obvious sadness of Sarek when he thinks Spock's essence is gone? Powerful. 
The scene of the Enterprise falling from the sky, Kirk looking at saying "My 
God, Bones, What have i done". Chokes me up even now. Kirk's son David killed. 
Sad. The Klingon Bird of Prey soaring through the Vulcan skies to Mount
Seleya? Moving. And the final scene when Spock says "Jim...your name is Jim". 
Sends me soaring. all the action and FX and aliens in those movies, and it's 
the emotional bits in "Search for Spock" that i keep going back too.

Friends will love a movie that's chock full of action and fight and FX, and I 
may like a similar film that's similarly action-packed but a little deeper 
emotionally, and they roll their eyes at me.

-- Original message -- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Alvin and the C-Munks (already covered this sordid affair here)

All 3 Bourne movies (DVD marathon today) - excellent as always

Over the Hedge - enjoyed this one in the theatre and again on DVD

Spent the rest of the time on History Channel.

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Tracey said:

> Hey Gang:
>
> What movies did you watch over the holidays? The would include in the
theatre, on DVD, and on TV. What movies did you like and which were
duds?
>


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[GWashin891]

Mars Rising series on the science channel-had it's faults but still is a good 
series.

Outlaw Star anime series-forgot I brought it but also a good anime series a 
cross between Cowboy Bebop and Firefly (with a lot cooler ship).

And various other crap.


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Re: [scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[KeithBJohnson]

Planned to see several, but my wife wasn't feeling all that hot, so we only saw 
"Juno" at the theatre. Very good movie, glad I saw it. Outside of that, i 
watched a bunch of by-the-numbers westerns and romances on Lifetime and 
Hallmark Channels, and caught up on recordings of Legion and Batman.

And yes---i said I watched Lifetime Channel! I'm man enough to be comfortable 
watching a sappy love story with my wife! :)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Hey Gang: 
> 
> What movies did you watch over the holidays? The would include in the 
> theatre, on DVD, and on TV. What movies did you like and which were duds? 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[Mike Street]

Alvin and the Chipmunks = It was for kids...I was just transportation
and movie admission

Panic in Year Zero = Excellent movie!!

The Omega Man = Good movie, I Am Legend is better.

The Last Man on Earth = Good movie

Robot Chicken Season 2 = Funniest show on TV ever. But I'm an 80's kid
so I get all of the references.

F**K: A Documentary = The history of the word fuck. It was good and
pretty funny.

Re: [scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

All good except for Alvin. You know might sentiments on this issue

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Alvin and the C-Munks (already covered this sordid affair here)
>
> All 3 Bourne movies (DVD marathon today) - excellent as always
>
> Over the Hedge - enjoyed this one in the theatre and again on DVD
>
> Spent the rest of the time on History Channel.
>
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>
> Tracey said:
>
>   
>> Hey Gang:
>>
>> What movies did you watch over the holidays?  The would include in the
>> 
> theatre, on DVD, and on TV.  What movies did you like and which were
> duds?
>   
>
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[james]

Alvin and the C-Munks (already covered this sordid affair here)

All 3 Bourne movies (DVD marathon today) - excellent as always

Over the Hedge - enjoyed this one in the theatre and again on DVD

Spent the rest of the time on History Channel.

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Tracey said:

> Hey Gang:
>
> What movies did you watch over the holidays?  The would include in the
theatre, on DVD, and on TV.  What movies did you like and which were
duds?
>

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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I'm just looking out for you and our interests.  Don't want you 
suffering from any concussions.  Then we'd be left without your witter 
repartee.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (pretending you didn't say that)
>
>
>   
>> Tracey said:  I think the wife might too.
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> I'll stop here.  There are a few more, but they involve whip cream and
>>> Gina Torres.  Mr. Fishburne may object...
>>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Hmmm six miles huh?   By the way, loved " Things That Should Be Left in 
2007" on your Urban Blog
*http://tinyurl.com/2ryzdx*

Mike Street wrote:
> My blog is below in my sig file.
>
> I ran about 6 miles, 3 times per week. But I've been eating like a pig
> over the holidays so it's time to get back on track. But for me if I
> run 6 miles I lose about 2-3lbs per week and mix that with the diet
> and it's all good.
>
>   


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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[james]

(pretending you didn't say that)


>Tracey said:  I think the wife might too.
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> Gina Torres.  Mr. Fishburne may object...
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[scifinoir2] Movies Watched Over The Holiday

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Hey Gang:

What movies did you watch over the holidays?  The would include in the 
theatre, on DVD, and on TV.  What movies did you like and which were duds?


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Mike Street]

My blog is below in my sig file.

I ran about 6 miles, 3 times per week. But I've been eating like a pig
over the holidays so it's time to get back on track. But for me if I
run 6 miles I lose about 2-3lbs per week and mix that with the diet
and it's all good.

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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I think the wife might too. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

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Where is your blog?  How did you loose weight?


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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

[Reece Jennings]

Well, I played football for about 20 years.  Ended in the Air Force.  My
coach was going
to get me a scholarship to USC or UCLA, but we played an all-star game
against a Marine
team from Japan.  I was a wide receiver.  I never got hit so hard in my
life!  Never wanted to 
play tackle football again!
 
When I got to CT, my younger brother was already an official, and he talked
me into trying it.
He was one of my mentors.  I have never regretted doing it.  In fact, Youth
football pays 
quite well.  We make 60 bucks a game, and we officiate at least 3 games on a
Sunday.
They pay cash.  It's not about the money, though...not completely!
 
And talk about firsts...we had NO Referees (White-Hats) in our association
up until 2000.  
I pushed my brother to do it before me, but he was splitting his time
between coaching his
sons and doing games.  So I became the first White Hat in our association.
You don't get
more money, but you're the crew chief.  Great position!
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:44 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player



that's quite interesting. how'd you get into that?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> 
High school and youth football. I've done some Semi-pro games, and a couple
of college 
scrimmages.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

i forgot that; what do you referee?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> 
I am a Zebra (note the capitalization!), and I know and agree with the
words.
We are human, and mistakes with calls, while hard to take, are sometimes
made.
That's the reason for instant replay. I have some calls I've made that I
would
give anything to take back.

But to put hands on a player...NEVER!!!

Maurice Jennings
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

I ahve many words for zebras. Most of them would get this group shut down
again.

In so many words, that was the live-action version of that Bud commercial,
in which the zebra overhears a defensive coordinator exhorting his squad
with promises of beer for a good hit, which drives the zebra to make a
monster hit on the quarterback, and do a full celebration over the fallen
player. He got too caught up in the moment, forgot that he was there to be
neutral.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
WTF?? What's up with this umpire that he's tackling and choking players--in
more than one game? Shouldn't he just get out of the way if the melee gets
out of hand? Heck, what does he do if a maddened player inadvertently starts
whaling on him--bring mace or a stun gun to the stadium?
Maybe this ump needs to audition for the new American Gladiators!!
**
[From Wisconsis radio and AP sources]
GREEN BAY - After saying earlier in the week that it wouldn't take
discipline umpire Jim Quirk, who pulled Green Bay Packers linebacker Nick
Barnett down from behind in a choke hold during a skirmish during last
Sunday's game at Chicago, the NFL announced Friday that it fined Quirk for
"inappropriate physical contact with players."
Quirk was notified he was fined one game check ($8,

RE: [scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

[Reece Jennings]

(Ducking and staring into space fearfully...) Me?  Sure!  I'm fine!
Why is everybody watching me?
 
Look out!
 
LOLLOL!!!
 
Seriously, I had so much other stuff going on with racial stuff at school, I
didn't even notice some of the perverted stuff that happened to me in my
home.
Besides, I was a little kid, so I probably didn't have a clue that there was
a problem
with that kind of discipline.
 
But now...I have all kinds of power tools in my basement...g...
 
:o)
 
I'm in no WAY close to what people define as 'normal'.  And I like it that
way.
 
H...maybe that's why...anyway, I've only had a couple of fights in my
life.
Once a guy stood on my back after I fell face down in a puddle of water.  I
waited 
until he got off.  I stood up quietly, then punched him full in the face
once.  I think I broke
his nose.  He was definitely bloody and freaked out.  I stood over him and
quietly said,
"Don't do that any more."  Then I walked quietly away.  
 
The other time a guy bit me in the back.  I waited until he finished.  I got
up and grabbed
him full in the crotch and twisted while he screamed.  I continued until I
figured he had 
gotten the idea that biting me was a bad thing.  Then I walked away.
 
Nobody bothered me after that.  
 
I could kill somebody with no compunction if they hurt one of my children or
grandchildren.
But then, couldn't we all?  
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:06 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol,
research finds



I'm fine, as much as I can be, minus the hardware. The question is, after
that experience, are *you*?

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: "I'm sure that you all enjoyed your last meals."

A little Freudian slip, perhaps...YIKES! I hope you're doing well. Seems
that
you are. I only smoked once. When I was 5, I took a drag on mom's
cigarette.

She walked in and caught me. I smoked the pack. I still can't stomach the
smell
of a cigarette butt. I get physically ill.

The she quit smoking cold turkey. Of course I wanted to pay her back, but
when
I got older, I realized that, in her way, she did me a favor...and I thank
her for it!

Maurice Jennings
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol,
research finds

Irregardless of race or menthol inclusion, I can't fathom the stupididty of
smoking. And, for anyone who smokes voluntarily here, I'd be happy to
forward you pics of what my right lung looked like after they pulled it out
of me. On second thought, I can't. I'm sure that you all enjoyed your last
meals.

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com> wrote:
www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-quitting_side_31dec31,0,6314512.story
chicagotribune.com

African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

By Deborah L. Shelton

Tribune staff reporter

December 31, 2007

Smoking rates in Chicago and nationwide currently hover at about 21
percent, down by half from 1965, federal statistics show.

Yet smoking among African-Americans rose in 2006, to 23 percent from
21 percent.

In North Lawndale and some other parts of Chicago, as many as 39
percent of African-American adults smoke, said Joseph West, an
epidemiologist who works with a community-based smoking cessation
program at Sinai Urban Health Institute.

"Three decades have gone by and the smoking rate in this community
hasn't changed," West said.

Smoking patterns could help explain why rates among African-Americans
tend to be higher, said Pebbles Fagan of the National Cancer Institute.

More than three-quarters of white people smoke non-menthol cigarettes,
and typically they light up for the first time when they are under
age. African-Americans usually begin when they are adults, and
three-quarters smoke menthol brands, government data show.

Some studies have found that menthol cigarettes contain higher levels
of tar and nicotine. Menthol also has been shown to lower the body's
ability to metabolize nicotine, which results in greater exposure.

When West does interv

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

[Reece Jennings]

SURE!  What the heck...!!!
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:20 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player



Thank you. I was worried there. Are you available to ref the National
Championship?

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: No offense taken at all, Martin! In fact, we Zebras, ok, zebras
(chuckle!)
NEED to
get feedback from fans, coaches, etc. I've become a much better official
because
I was taught to listen to feedback by some great officials who were my
mentors...

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

No disrespect intended, Reece, and forgive me if any was taken. I know what
you mean by wishing that you'd been able to take back some calls (not
personally). It just bothers me no end that so many refs suffer from the
ego-trip borne of having life-or-death power over the destinies of games.
"Tuck Rule and "Snow Plow" come readliy to mind.

Martin (not a Patriots fan on general principles- they've never done
anything to offend me)

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote:
I am a Zebra (note the capitalization!), and I know and agree with the
words.
We are human, and mistakes with calls, while hard to take, are sometimes
made.
That's the reason for instant replay. I have some calls I've made that I
would
give anything to take back.

But to put hands on a player...NEVER!!!

Maurice Jennings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

I ahve many words for zebras. Most of them would get this group shut down
again.

In so many words, that was the live-action version of that Bud commercial,
in which the zebra overhears a defensive coordinator exhorting his squad
with promises of beer for a good hit, which drives the zebra to make a
monster hit on the quarterback, and do a full celebration over the fallen
player. He got too caught up in the moment, forgot that he was there to be
neutral.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
WTF?? What's up with this umpire that he's tackling and choking players--in
more than one game? Shouldn't he just get out of the way if the melee gets
out of hand? Heck, what does he do if a maddened player inadvertently starts
whaling on him--bring mace or a stun gun to the stadium?
Maybe this ump needs to audition for the new American Gladiators!!
**
[From Wisconsis radio and AP sources]
GREEN BAY - After saying earlier in the week that it wouldn't take
discipline umpire Jim Quirk, who pulled Green Bay Packers linebacker Nick
Barnett down from behind in a choke hold during a skirmish during last
Sunday's game at Chicago, the NFL announced Friday that it fined Quirk for
"inappropriate physical contact with players."
Quirk was notified he was fined one game check ($8,150) by NFL executive
vice president of football operations Ray Anderson. Quirk can appeal the
fine to commissioner Roger Goodell. Quirk was notified in person at the NFL
office on Friday morning, when Goodell spoke to Quirk in his office. Goodell
also spoke by phone on Thursday to Barnett and Packers coach Mike McCarthy,
the league said.
The fine includes a similar incident involving Falcons running back Jason
Snelling on a kickoff return in the Atlanta-Tampa Bay game on Dec. 16,
according to an NFL spokesman. Quirk was also i

Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Martin]

Two things into this, James.

1) Does "homicide-free" exclude maimings? Because...well, you know.

2) I want mpegs of you and Gina. In exchange, I'd be happy to run interference 
with the Mister.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Didn't make any last 
year, but my goals this year:
 
 1 - To really lose weight this year.  Now that my health is back in check
 (had a nasty H-flu infection all summer and most of the fall), I would
 like to dump at least 50 pounds.  I had previously dumped 60 pounds on
 Atkins, but gained it all back after a varicocelectomy that required more
 than the normal period of recovery, combined with stress on the job and a
 different commute that involves more car transport and less walking in the
 Metro.  The Wife has talked me into trying Weight Watchers this time.
 
 2 - To blog more.  My syndication agreement requires a specified minimum
 number of entries per week, but I'd been pre-occupied and too fatigued
 earlier this year to keep up due to employment chaos and spousal
 illnesses.
 
 3 - Attend 20 year class reunion without jacking anyone up.  No doubt I
 will run into some of the worthless ass-goblins who tormented my small,
 unpopular self for years before I left to join the USMC.  From what I've
 researched, few of them amounted to jack.  My intent is to get through the
 evening homicide-free.  :)
 
 I'll stop here.  There are a few more, but they involve whip cream and
 Gina Torres.  Mr. Fishburne may object...
 
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 > What New Years Resolutions Have you made?  However about last year?  Did
 > you keep the ones that you made last year?
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Re: [scifinoir2] Ways to Avoid A Good Southern Ass-Whuppin'

[Justin Mohareb]

As a foreigner, I will assume this is a lot funnier if you live in the
US, right?

Justin Mohareb

On Jan 1, 2008 8:17 PM, Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  This seems like a little different version than I remember but hey...you
>  never know.
>


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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Martin]

Didn't make any last year, because I'd given p the notion years earlier, 
because I often lacked the wherewithall to get them launched or sustained. I've 
already said what my "intention" for '08 is.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What 
New Years Resolutions Have you made?  However about last year?  Did 
you keep the ones that you made last year?


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

[Martin]

I'd forgotten all about that attack on Halle.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They 
are really bad.  Plus, Snipes caused Halley Berry to lose hearing 
in one ear by beating abusing her, and arrange.  additionally, a friend 
of mine who use to work for Miles Davis, had to take someone I use to 
model with to the hospital after she was assaulted by some guys arranged 
by Snipes.  She thought she was getting together with him alone, only he 
had other plans.  This happened at a time when Snipes was looking to do 
Davis' biopic. It's had seeing him as the sensitive guy in all the Black 
films he did with women after reading what he said and knowing what he 
did to someone I used to work with

Martin wrote:
> Both men have, at one time or another, made statements that weren't entirely 
> flattering toward women. Havign been raised primarily by women, I didn't 
> appreciate the sentiments. If I can find the actual words, I'll post them.
>
> RaAyyMOND C  wrote:  What did Lou Rawls, and Wesley Snipes did?
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> Tracey, I usually can't make that distinction. If someone famous does 
> something egregious, that's it for me, with regards to them. Wesley Snipes is 
> a prime example, for the reported way he regards women. Same with Lou Rawls. 
> I used to love his music until I learned of his barely-disguised misogyny. 
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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[james]

Didn't make any last year, but my goals this year:

1 - To really lose weight this year.  Now that my health is back in check
(had a nasty H-flu infection all summer and most of the fall), I would
like to dump at least 50 pounds.  I had previously dumped 60 pounds on
Atkins, but gained it all back after a varicocelectomy that required more
than the normal period of recovery, combined with stress on the job and a
different commute that involves more car transport and less walking in the
Metro.  The Wife has talked me into trying Weight Watchers this time.

2 - To blog more.  My syndication agreement requires a specified minimum
number of entries per week, but I'd been pre-occupied and too fatigued
earlier this year to keep up due to employment chaos and spousal
illnesses.

3 - Attend 20 year class reunion without jacking anyone up.  No doubt I
will run into some of the worthless ass-goblins who tormented my small,
unpopular self for years before I left to join the USMC.  From what I've
researched, few of them amounted to jack.  My intent is to get through the
evening homicide-free.  :)

I'll stop here.  There are a few more, but they involve whip cream and
Gina Torres.  Mr. Fishburne may object...

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Tracey said:

> What New Years Resolutions Have you made?  However about last year?  Did
> you keep the ones that you made last year?
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Ways to Avoid A Good Southern Ass-Whuppin'

[Martin]

LMNAO!

And, if I may, adding one more...

Never order a grit. Waitresses do not find this amusing.

Martin (speaking from personal experience...)

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 This seems like a little different version than I remember but hey...you
 never know. 
  
 
 Don't fake a Southern accent. This will incite a riot, and you will get
 your ass kicked. 
 
 ~` ~
 Don't order filet mignon or pasta primavera at Waffle House. It's just a
 diner. They serve breakfast 24 hours a day. Let them cook something they
 know. If you confuse them, they'll kick your ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 We are fully aware of how high the humidity is, so shut the hell up.
 Just spend your money and get the hell out of here, or we'll kick your
 ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 Don't order a bottle of pop or a can of soda down here. Down here it's
 called 'Drink.' Nobody gives a flying rat's ass whether it's Pepsi, RC,
 Dr. Pepper, 7-Up or whatever...it's still a Drink. Accept it. Doing
 otherwise can lead to an ass-kicking. 
 
 ~` ~
 We know our heritage. Most of us are more literate than you (e.g.,Eudora
 Welty, Tennessee Williams, William Faulkner); most of us are also better
 educated, and generally a lot nicer. Don't refer to us as a bunch of
 hillbillies or we'll kick your ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 We have plenty of business sense (e.g., Fred Smith of Fed Ex, Sam
 Walton, Oprah, Turner Broadcasting, MTV, Netscape). Naturally, we do,
 sometimes, have small lapses in judgment. If you keep reminding us of
 the fact, we will kick your ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 Don't laugh at our Civil War monuments. 
 If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg
 instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you'd be paying taxes to
 Richmond instead of Washington. If you visit Stone Mountain and complain
 about the carving, we'll kick your ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 Don't laugh at our Southern names (Merleen, John Luther, Tammy Lynn,
 Inez, Billy Ray, Sissy, Clovis, etc.) or we will just HAVE to kick your
 ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 Don't order wheat toast at Cracker Barrel. Everyone will instantly know
 that you're a Yankee. Eat your biscuits like God intended -- with gravy.
 And don't put sugar on your grits, or we'll kick your ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 Don't talk about how much better things are at home because we know
 better. 
 Many of us have visited Northern hell-holes like Detroit, Chicago, and
 DC, and we have the scars to prove it. If you don't like it here, Delta
 is ready when you are. Move your ass on home before it gets kicked. 
 
 ~` ~
 Yes, we know how to speak proper English. We talk this way because we
 don't want to sound like you. We don't care if you don't understand what
 we are saying. All other Southerners understand what we are saying, and
 that's all that matters. Now, go away and leave us alone, or we'll kick
 your ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 Don't complain that the South is dirty and polluted. None of OUR lakes
 or rivers have caught fire recently. If you whine about OURscenic
 beauty, we'll kick your ass all the way back to Boston Harbor or Lake
 Erie. 
 
 ~` ~
 Don't ridicule our Southern manners. We say sir and ma'am. We hold doors
 open for others. We offer our seats to old folks because such things are
 expected of civilized people. Behave yourselves around our sweet little
 gray-haired grandmothers or they'll kick some manners into your ass just
 like they did ours. 
 
 ~` ~
 So you think we're quaint, or losers, because most of us live in the
 countryside? That's because we have enough sense to not live in filthy,
 smelly, crime-infested places like New York, Baltimore or Boston. Make
 fun of our fresh air, and we'll kick your ass. 
 
 ~` ~
 Last, but not least, DO NOT DARE to come down here and tell us how to
 cook. This will get your ass shot (right after it is kicked). You're
 lucky we let you come down here at all. Criticize our cooking, and you
 will go home in a pine box... minus your ass! 
  
 
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RE: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Martin]

I'll take Reece's mindset to heart, and brand this a intention.

A few years back, my younger sister handed me a couple of copied pages from a 
huge book of horoscopes she'd read at work. Normally, I pay these things about 
as much mind as I do Harlequin romance novels (one of mine last week said that 
I needed to be careful in my financial investments- as if a guy on a fixed 
income can make investments :P), but this one had me down to a t, right down to 
my ability to handle the affairs of others, no matter how little I knew them, 
with aplomb, but that the most difficult task I would ever undertake would be 
in taking the reins of my own life. That latter is precisely what I intend.

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I don't 
make resolutions any more.  I do have intentions, though...
 
 I intend to ramp up my business for saving people from foreclosure, etc.  I
 have been so wrapped up
 in my parents' issues with getting older, losing mental grip, physical
 deals, assisted living, nursing homes,
 bypass surgery, SARS, blood
 clots...HH!
 
 Ahem...anyway, I'm going to find time to devote to my business.
 
 I already kept one intention.  I changed the locks on my house about an hour
 ago and took my lady friend's
 alarm code out of my system.  I packed up all of her stuff into 2 suitcases,
 and called her to let her know I
 was bringing it by.
 
 I'm a cranky old fart!  I can't handle the emotional stretching with my
 parents and a relationship with a woman.
 Maybe I'll turn gay and get a boyfriend.  Then we can just have sex when we
 want.  Guys understand that kind
 of behavior.  NOT  EEEWWW!!!  LOLLOLLOL
 
 I need a moment...   :o)
 
 Maurice Jennings
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 Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:29 PM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone
 
 What New Years Resolutions Have you made?  However about last year?  Did you
 keep the ones that you made last year?
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Martin]

Mike, I remember you posting your blog URL when you first joined us. Could I 
trouble you for it again? I've lost it in the dogpile of my notes.

Mike Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   To lose 
more weight. I lost about 30lbs in the end of 2007. And to get
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RE: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Reece Jennings]

Good for you, Mike!
 
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Behalf Of Mike Street
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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To lose more weight. I lost about 30lbs in the end of 2007. And to get
more traffic going to my blog


 


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Re: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Mike Street]

To lose more weight. I lost about 30lbs in the end of 2007. And to get
more traffic going to my blog

RE: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Reece Jennings]

I don't make resolutions any more.  I do have intentions, though...

I intend to ramp up my business for saving people from foreclosure, etc.  I
have been so wrapped up
in my parents' issues with getting older, losing mental grip, physical
deals, assisted living, nursing homes,
bypass surgery, SARS, blood
clots...HH!

Ahem...anyway, I'm going to find time to devote to my business.

I already kept one intention.  I changed the locks on my house about an hour
ago and took my lady friend's
alarm code out of my system.  I packed up all of her stuff into 2 suitcases,
and called her to let her know I
was bringing it by.

I'm a cranky old fart!  I can't handle the emotional stretching with my
parents and a relationship with a woman.
Maybe I'll turn gay and get a boyfriend.  Then we can just have sex when we
want.  Guys understand that kind
of behavior.  NOT  EEEWWW!!!  LOLLOLLOL

I need a moment...   :o)

 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
 
 

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Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:29 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

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RE: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi

[Reece Jennings]

Truly a classic!
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 5:08 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi



I still LMNAO everytime I hear that one, Reece!

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: You've got 2 of my all-time favorites right there! I LOVED the last
line
said to the guy getting into the spaceship in 'To Serve
Man'...LOLLOLLOL!

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I managed to catch one of my personal favorites, with Burgess Meredith
playing the guy who only wanted to read. I'm hoping to catch "To Serve Man"
before long.



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[scifinoir2] Ways to Avoid A Good Southern Ass-Whuppin'

[Reece Jennings]

 

This seems like a little different version than I remember but hey...you
never know. 
 


 
Don't fake a Southern accent. This will incite a riot, and you will get
your ass kicked. 

~` ~
Don't order filet mignon or pasta primavera at Waffle House. It's just a
diner. They serve breakfast 24 hours a day. Let them cook something they
know. If you confuse them, they'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
We are fully aware of how high the humidity is, so shut the hell up.
Just spend your money and get the hell out of here, or we'll kick your
ass. 

~` ~
Don't order a bottle of pop or a can of soda down here. Down here it's
called 'Drink.' Nobody gives a flying rat's ass whether it's Pepsi, RC,
Dr. Pepper, 7-Up or whatever...it's still a Drink. Accept it. Doing
otherwise can lead to an ass-kicking. 

~` ~
We know our heritage. Most of us are more literate than you (e.g.,Eudora
Welty, Tennessee Williams, William Faulkner); most of us are also better
educated, and generally a lot nicer. Don't refer to us as a bunch of
hillbillies or we'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
We have plenty of business sense (e.g., Fred Smith of Fed Ex, Sam
Walton, Oprah, Turner Broadcasting, MTV, Netscape). Naturally, we do,
sometimes, have small lapses in judgment. If you keep reminding us of
the fact, we will kick your ass. 

~` ~
Don't laugh at our Civil War monuments. 
If Lee had listened to Longstreet and flanked Meade at Gettysburg
instead of sending Pickett up the middle, you'd be paying taxes to
Richmond instead of Washington. If you visit Stone Mountain and complain
about the carving, we'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
Don't laugh at our Southern names (Merleen, John Luther, Tammy Lynn,
Inez, Billy Ray, Sissy, Clovis, etc.) or we will just HAVE to kick your
ass. 

~` ~
Don't order wheat toast at Cracker Barrel. Everyone will instantly know
that you're a Yankee. Eat your biscuits like God intended -- with gravy.
And don't put sugar on your grits, or we'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
Don't talk about how much better things are at home because we know
better. 
Many of us have visited Northern hell-holes like Detroit, Chicago, and
DC, and we have the scars to prove it. If you don't like it here, Delta
is ready when you are. Move your ass on home before it gets kicked. 

~` ~
Yes, we know how to speak proper English. We talk this way because we
don't want to sound like you. We don't care if you don't understand what
we are saying. All other Southerners understand what we are saying, and
that's all that matters. Now, go away and leave us alone, or we'll kick
your ass. 

~` ~
Don't complain that the South is dirty and polluted. None of OUR lakes
or rivers have caught fire recently. If you whine about OURscenic
beauty, we'll kick your ass all the way back to Boston Harbor or Lake
Erie. 

~` ~
Don't ridicule our Southern manners. We say sir and ma'am. We hold doors
open for others. We offer our seats to old folks because such things are
expected of civilized people. Behave yourselves around our sweet little
gray-haired grandmothers or they'll kick some manners into your ass just
like they did ours. 

~` ~
So you think we're quaint, or losers, because most of us live in the
countryside? That's because we have enough sense to not live in filthy,
smelly, crime-infested places like New York, Baltimore or Boston. Make
fun of our fresh air, and we'll kick your ass. 

~` ~
Last, but not least, DO NOT DARE to come down here and tell us how to
cook. This will get your ass shot (right after it is kicked). You're
lucky we let you come down here at all. Criticize our cooking, and you
will go home in a pine box... minus your ass! 
 



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RE: [scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

[Martin]

I'm fine, as much as I can be, minus the hardware. The question is, after that 
experience, are *you*?

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   "I'm 
sure that you all enjoyed your last meals."
  
 A little Freudian slip, perhaps...YIKES!  I hope you're doing well.  Seems
 that
 you are.  I only smoked once.  When I was 5, I took a drag on mom's
 cigarette.
  
 She walked in and caught me.  I smoked the pack.  I still can't stomach the
 smell
 of a cigarette butt.  I get physically ill.
  
 The she quit smoking cold turkey.  Of course I wanted to pay her back, but
 when
 I got older, I realized that, in her way, she did me a favor...and I thank
 her for it!
 
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:14 PM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol,
 research finds
 
 Irregardless of race or menthol inclusion, I can't fathom the stupididty of
 smoking. And, for anyone who smokes voluntarily here, I'd be happy to
 forward you pics of what my right lung looked like after they pulled it out
 of me. On second thought, I can't. I'm sure that you all enjoyed your last
 meals.
 
 ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com> wrote:
 www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-quitting_side_31dec31,0,6314512.story
 chicagotribune.com
 
 African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds
 
 By Deborah L. Shelton
 
 Tribune staff reporter
 
 December 31, 2007
 
 Smoking rates in Chicago and nationwide currently hover at about 21
 percent, down by half from 1965, federal statistics show.
 
 Yet smoking among African-Americans rose in 2006, to 23 percent from
 21 percent.
 
 In North Lawndale and some other parts of Chicago, as many as 39
 percent of African-American adults smoke, said Joseph West, an
 epidemiologist who works with a community-based smoking cessation
 program at Sinai Urban Health Institute.
 
 "Three decades have gone by and the smoking rate in this community
 hasn't changed," West said.
 
 Smoking patterns could help explain why rates among African-Americans
 tend to be higher, said Pebbles Fagan of the National Cancer Institute.
 
 More than three-quarters of white people smoke non-menthol cigarettes,
 and typically they light up for the first time when they are under
 age. African-Americans usually begin when they are adults, and
 three-quarters smoke menthol brands, government data show.
 
 Some studies have found that menthol cigarettes contain higher levels
 of tar and nicotine. Menthol also has been shown to lower the body's
 ability to metabolize nicotine, which results in greater exposure.
 
 When West does intervention work in black neighborhoods, he said,
 people often tell him they want to quit but can't afford prescription
 medications and treatments such as patches.
 
 But individual cigarettes, or "loosies," are readily available for 50
 cents.
 
 West said more of the state's tobacco settlement money should be
 directed to poor communities.
 
 "We need to begin to look at where we spend those tobacco revenues in
 terms of investing in young people and communities," he said.
 
 --
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  com
 
 See also "As smoking ban looms, science tries to snuff urge," Page 1
 
 Copyright C 2007, Chicago Tribune
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for "Cloverfield"

[Martin]

But...the Candy Man...doesn't he mix it up with love, and make the world taste 
good?

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Or the 
Candy Man...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I will not watch the SciFi 
Channel's "most dangerous night on television".
 
 I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect...
 
 "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and 
 do not even consider watching the so-called "most dangerous night on 
 television". It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is 
 rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of 
 campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a 
 scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no 
 exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, 
 but it will not happen.
 
 Now, repeat after me...
 I will not watch The Scifi Channel's "most dangerous night on television"
 I will not watch The Scifi Channel's "most dangerous night on television"
 I will not watch The Scifi Channel's "most dangerous night on television"
 
 Astromancer wrote:
 > Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or 
 > insects
 >
 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 > Even so, I like shows with sea monsters
 >
 > Martin wrote:
 > 
 >> Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi...
 >>
 >> Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all 
 >> have one common element.
 >>
 >> Hideous eight-legged creatures.
 >>
 >> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" wrote: I found script 
 >> reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to 
 >> know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm 
 >> actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used 
 >> to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with 
 >> the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly 
 >> too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was 
 >> for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. 
 >>
 >> Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of 
 >> this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, 
 >> so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film 
 >> school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, 
 >> shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for 
 >> the character development as well as the chills and thrills
 >>
 >> I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my 
 >> Netflix que
 >>
 >> I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic 
 >> bomb experience. But I have no idea
 >>
 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 >> 
 >>> thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know 
 >>> what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. 
 >>> Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll 
 >>> wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be 
 >>> surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though.
 >>>
 >>> I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something 
 >>> that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level 
 >>> of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, 
 >>> frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with 
 >>> Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think 
 >>> of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads 
 >>> of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All 
 >>> Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, 
 >>> entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can 
 >>> recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. 
 >>>
 >>> I hear the movie "The Host" was really good, but it didn't do big box 
 >>> office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six 
 >>> million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's "House of 
 >>> 1000 Corpses", which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but 
 >>> only four million overseas.
 >>>
 >>> Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves 
 >>> or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? 
 >>>
 >>> -- Original message -- 
 >>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
 >>> Try these sites from imdb
 >>>
 >>> There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, 
 >>> through which you can find other characters in the movie. 
 >>> "Rob"--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins
 >>>
 >>> www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 
 >>> 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

They are really bad.  Plus, Snipes caused Halley Berry to lose hearing 
in one ear by beating abusing her, and arrange.  additionally, a friend 
of mine who use to work for Miles Davis, had to take someone I use to 
model with to the hospital after she was assaulted by some guys arranged 
by Snipes.  She thought she was getting together with him alone, only he 
had other plans.  This happened at a time when Snipes was looking to do 
Davis' biopic. It's had seeing him as the sensitive guy in all the Black 
films he did with women after reading what he said and knowing what he 
did to someone I used to work with

Martin wrote:
> Both men have, at one time or another, made statements that weren't entirely 
> flattering toward women. Havign been raised primarily by women, I didn't 
> appreciate the sentiments. If I can find the actual words, I'll post them.
>
> RaAyyMOND C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  What did Lou Rawls, and 
> Wesley Snipes did?
>
>
> Tracey, I usually can't make that distinction. If someone famous does 
> something egregious, that's it for me, with regards to them. Wesley Snipes is 
> a prime example, for the reported way he regards women. Same with Lou Rawls. 
> I used to love his music until I learned of his barely-disguised misogyny. 
> After that, I tossed every album of his I had. Yes, kids, *albums*. Worth 
> *plenty*, had I bothered to sell them. Dislike is dislike, for me.
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Re: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I love those two.  unfortunately while I was sick I watched too many 
episodes.  It comes all day marathons and late night.  So I am taking a 
break from my New Years tradition.  Kind of miss it, but we watched 
Daybreak today, so that was fun too

Martin wrote:
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> playing the guy who only wanted to read. I'm hoping to catch "To Serve Man" 
> before long.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sci Fi Channel is running its yearly 
> "Twilight Zone" marathon now through tomorrow evening. They just finished 
> showing a good one with Johnathan Winters and Jack Klugman, where Klugman is 
> a pool player who challenges Winters' ghost for title of the best ever. Later 
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[scifinoir2] New Year's Resolutions everyone

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

What New Years Resolutions Have you made?  However about last year?  Did 
you keep the ones that you made last year?


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Happy New Year

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Back at you!  You guys are great!

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Re: [scifinoir2] Happy New Year

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Re: [scifinoir2] A cold, hard look at science's hottest mysteries: dark energy

[Amy Harlib]

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Thanks for that fascinating acience article!
Happy New Year,
Amy


www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-telescope_31dec31,1,6396217.story
chicagotribune.com

A cold, hard look at one of science's hottest mysteries
Dark energy -- it's gravity's worst enemy and the hottest mystery in
science. Now, a giant telescope at the South Pole could help us learn
more.

By William Mullen

Tribune staff reporter

December 31, 2007

AMUNDSEN-SCOTT STATION, Antarctica


Anywhere on Earth this would be a big telescope, as high as a
seven-story building, with a main mirror measuring 32 1/2 feet across.
But here at the South Pole, it seems especially large, looming over a
barren plain of ice that gets colder than anywhere else on the planet.
Scientists built the instrument at the end of the world so they can
search for clues that might identify the most powerful, plentiful but
elusive substance in the universe -- dark energy.

First described just nine years ago, dark energy is a mysterious force
so powerful that it will decide the fate of the universe. Having
already overruled the laws of gravity, it is pushing galaxies away
from one another, causing the universe to expand at an ever faster rate.

Though dark energy is believed to account for 70 percent of the
universe's mass, it is invisible and virtually undetectable. Nobody
knows what it is, where it is or how it behaves.

"If you see it in your basement," jokes University of Chicago
cosmologist Rocky Kolb, "you better get back on your medication." But
he knows better than most the high priority the world's governments
and scientists have placed on coming to a fuller understanding of the
invisible force.

"Many think dark energy is the most important problem in physics
today," said Kolb, who recently served as chairman of the Dark Energy
Task Force, convened in 2005 by the U.S. Department of Energy, NASA
and the National Science Foundation.

Figuring out what dark energy is would explain the history and future
of the universe and generate new understanding of physical laws that,
applied to human invention, almost certainly will change the way we
live -- just as breakthroughs in quantum mechanics brought us the
computer chip.

Swinging its massive mirror skyward, the South Pole Telescope for the
last few months has begun to search the southern polar heavens for
shreds of evidence of the elusive stuff. Controlled remotely from the
University of Chicago, the $19.2 million telescope has quickly
succeeded in its first mission: finding unknown galaxy clusters, clues
to the emergence of dark energy.

The construction crew

The U. of C. has a stronger astronomy presence at the pole than
perhaps any other institution, having built several smaller
experimental telescopes here over the last 20 years. This scope,
however, was by far the most ambitious project.

Its components had to be custom-built by scientists and craftsmen in
several different parts of the world, then shipped to Antarctica in
pieces for final assembly. The largest sections of the telescope were
carefully designed so each could fit into ski-equipped military
transport planes. It took 25 flights to ferry 260 tons of telescope
components.

Late last year, a crew composed mostly of graduate students spent
eight hours a day outdoors to help put them all together.

"It gets really, really cold, because you aren't moving much," said
Joachin Vieira, 28, a graduate student in physics. "There's steel
behind you, steel in front of you, and you're holding steel tools."

His crew was assembling a 10-meter aluminum mirror and attaching it to
a carbon fiber backing designed to keep the mirror rigid in the
powerful South Pole winds.

Earlier they had spent three months doing a dry run on the mirror
assembly in the blazing summer heat of Kilgore, Texas. At the pole,
temperatures never warmed beyond 20 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.
Crew members said it took hours after coming back indoors before their
fingers loosened enough to type on their computers.

"We have to get these pieces into place to within 1/2000th of an inch
of accuracy," said Jeff McMahon, 29, a postdoctoral physics student.
"If you move, you risk screwing it up, so you stand motionless at 20
degrees below zero."

Also out there, slinging two-by-fours alongside ironworkers putting
together the telescope's main structure, was John Carlstrom, a veteran
South Pole astronomer and University of Chicago astrophysicist who is
heading up the international team that designed and constructed the
telescope.

Senior scientists at six other institutions are collaborating with
Carlstrom's Chicago team, including the University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign, University of California at Berkeley, NASA's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory, and Harvard, Case Western Reserve and McGill
Universities. The project is funded mainly by the National Science
Foundation with additional money coming from two California donors --
the Kavli Foundation and the Gordon and Betty Moore

RE: [scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

[Reece Jennings]

"I'm sure that you all enjoyed your last meals."
 
A little Freudian slip, perhaps...YIKES!  I hope you're doing well.  Seems
that
you are.  I only smoked once.  When I was 5, I took a drag on mom's
cigarette.
 
She walked in and caught me.  I smoked the pack.  I still can't stomach the
smell
of a cigarette butt.  I get physically ill.
 
The she quit smoking cold turkey.  Of course I wanted to pay her back, but
when
I got older, I realized that, in her way, she did me a favor...and I thank
her for it!

 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:14 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol,
research finds



Irregardless of race or menthol inclusion, I can't fathom the stupididty of
smoking. And, for anyone who smokes voluntarily here, I'd be happy to
forward you pics of what my right lung looked like after they pulled it out
of me. On second thought, I can't. I'm sure that you all enjoyed your last
meals.

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  com> wrote:
www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-quitting_side_31dec31,0,6314512.story
chicagotribune.com

African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

By Deborah L. Shelton

Tribune staff reporter

December 31, 2007

Smoking rates in Chicago and nationwide currently hover at about 21
percent, down by half from 1965, federal statistics show.

Yet smoking among African-Americans rose in 2006, to 23 percent from
21 percent.

In North Lawndale and some other parts of Chicago, as many as 39
percent of African-American adults smoke, said Joseph West, an
epidemiologist who works with a community-based smoking cessation
program at Sinai Urban Health Institute.

"Three decades have gone by and the smoking rate in this community
hasn't changed," West said.

Smoking patterns could help explain why rates among African-Americans
tend to be higher, said Pebbles Fagan of the National Cancer Institute.

More than three-quarters of white people smoke non-menthol cigarettes,
and typically they light up for the first time when they are under
age. African-Americans usually begin when they are adults, and
three-quarters smoke menthol brands, government data show.

Some studies have found that menthol cigarettes contain higher levels
of tar and nicotine. Menthol also has been shown to lower the body's
ability to metabolize nicotine, which results in greater exposure.

When West does intervention work in black neighborhoods, he said,
people often tell him they want to quit but can't afford prescription
medications and treatments such as patches.

But individual cigarettes, or "loosies," are readily available for 50
cents.

West said more of the state's tobacco settlement money should be
directed to poor communities.

"We need to begin to look at where we spend those tobacco revenues in
terms of investing in young people and communities," he said.

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See also "As smoking ban looms, science tries to snuff urge," Page 1

Copyright C 2007, Chicago Tribune

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RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

[Martin]

Thank you. I was worried there. Are you available to ref the National 
Championship?

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  No offense taken at all, 
Martin! In fact, we Zebras, ok, zebras (chuckle!)
NEED to
get feedback from fans, coaches, etc. I've become a much better official
because
I was taught to listen to feedback by some great officials who were my
mentors...

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:39 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

No disrespect intended, Reece, and forgive me if any was taken. I know what
you mean by wishing that you'd been able to take back some calls (not
personally). It just bothers me no end that so many refs suffer from the
ego-trip borne of having life-or-death power over the destinies of games.
"Tuck Rule and "Snow Plow" come readliy to mind.

Martin (not a Patriots fan on general principles- they've never done
anything to offend me)

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote:
I am a Zebra (note the capitalization!), and I know and agree with the
words.
We are human, and mistakes with calls, while hard to take, are sometimes
made.
That's the reason for instant replay. I have some calls I've made that I
would
give anything to take back.

But to put hands on a player...NEVER!!!

Maurice Jennings
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

I ahve many words for zebras. Most of them would get this group shut down
again.

In so many words, that was the live-action version of that Bud commercial,
in which the zebra overhears a defensive coordinator exhorting his squad
with promises of beer for a good hit, which drives the zebra to make a
monster hit on the quarterback, and do a full celebration over the fallen
player. He got too caught up in the moment, forgot that he was there to be
neutral.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
WTF?? What's up with this umpire that he's tackling and choking players--in
more than one game? Shouldn't he just get out of the way if the melee gets
out of hand? Heck, what does he do if a maddened player inadvertently starts
whaling on him--bring mace or a stun gun to the stadium?
Maybe this ump needs to audition for the new American Gladiators!!
**
[From Wisconsis radio and AP sources]
GREEN BAY - After saying earlier in the week that it wouldn't take
discipline umpire Jim Quirk, who pulled Green Bay Packers linebacker Nick
Barnett down from behind in a choke hold during a skirmish during last
Sunday's game at Chicago, the NFL announced Friday that it fined Quirk for
"inappropriate physical contact with players."
Quirk was notified he was fined one game check ($8,150) by NFL executive
vice president of football operations Ray Anderson. Quirk can appeal the
fine to commissioner Roger Goodell. Quirk was notified in person at the NFL
office on Friday morning, when Goodell spoke to Quirk in his office. Goodell
also spoke by phone on Thursday to Barnett and Packers coach Mike McCarthy,
the league said.
The fine includes a similar incident involving Falcons running back Jason
Snelling on a kickoff return in the Atlanta-Tampa Bay game on Dec. 16,
according to an NFL spokesman. Quirk was also involved in another incident
just before halftime of the Arizona-Washington game on Oct. 21, when he took
Cardinals lineman Elton Brown to the ground with a similar move.
The NFL made the announcement after the Friday locker-room availability
period was over. Asked during the availability whether he'd gotten the
apology from Quirk he was looking for, Barnett said, "No ... well, sort
of."

Barnett might not file a formal grievance against NFL official Jim Quirk
after all. The Green Bay Packers linebacker's agent says he is more
interested in having the league admit that Quirk's rough treatment of
Barnett was wrong.

"Look, I don't think there's a lot to be gained by a grievance," agent Chuck
Price said Thursday. "All we're trying to do is to protect Nick."...Price
previously 

Re: [scifinoir2] "National Treasure 2" Rules Box Office - :(

[Martin]

What is this *water* you speak of?

Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Yeah but how much does it cost 
to get water?

B
--- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> $600K for a *small townhouse? In Georgia, that's a big-A$$ mansion
> in Buckhead!
> 
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One of the
> things that appeals to me about Seattle is that there are 
> lots of independent coffee houses where the self-employed (writers 
> included) seem to work. Out in the suburbs there are all
> Starbucks--its 
> not the same. Anyway, when we move I'm going to try working at a
> few 
> of the coffee houses sometimes to break out the monotony
> 
> I understand your circumstances. Seattle is one of the few places
> where 
> mortgages are going up. $600,000 for a small townhouse is the going
> 
> rate. I'm going to rent for a while and seek out fixer upper, 
> investment rental properties in areas that are up and coming, but
> not 
> where i would not to live. I used to rent out flip houses with my
> dad 
> after we rehabbed them when he was alive. Long ago my husband used
> to 
> be a contractor. We are in for some serious times with the real
> estate 
> market and banking, and I do not want to be a victim of that. Once 
> things calm down, or if we find a fixer upper in the right areas,
> then 
> we would buy. unfortunately, with employment growing here, the Lake
> 
> being so deep, traveling on the highway is a nightmare that is only
> 
> going to get worse. So being close to town is no longer an
> advantage. 
> While there all people from all over the world living out here, the
> 
> religious right seem to rule out side with the liberal leading in
> town. 
> People are friendly in town and reserved outside. Strange area.
> Like 
> my neighbors though
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i feel you. When i take days off i rarely spend all day at the
> house. I will work in the yard for a while, maybe do some chores.
> But after a few hours i get lonely and need to be around people. So
> I always go to the gym and take classes, then meet a friend for
> lunch, or my wife. Or, i'll just go to the bookstore or the park to
> be around people. although i love to write, i don't often write in
> solitude. I like to go to a coffee shop or the park and write.
> that's one reason i don't like watching movies at home only. i
> really miss interacting with people at the theatre.
> >
> > I think some of this is because i was often very lonely as a
> child. but a lot of it is due to my personality. I really am a
> strong extrovert.
> >
> > As for where you live, i pay a hell of a lot more mortgage for
> living IP (Inside the Perimeter, the loop around Atlanta) than I'd
> pay if I lived in the suburbs. The main issue was quality of life:
> I like the diversity closer in, the proximity to malls and theatres
> and downtown (though I'm ten miles away from the city), and the
> better choices in roads. In the 'burbs, there's usually only one or
> two roads that one can take to get to the city, and they often get
> clogged and backed up. Living closer in, one has more choices of
> taking surface, residential streets to get around. My wife doesn't
> like driving on the freeway much, and we can get all the way to
> downtown Atlanta without ever getting on the freeway. if we lived
> in the 'burbs, she'd have to get on congested roads every day. I'd
> lie to live truly down closer to the city, but a house the size of
> the one i have now (2300 square feet), in the same condition (1981)
> would cost half a million on the low end
> >
> > -- Original message -- 
> > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > You know, after a decade of working at home, I really enjoyed my
> stint 
> > at Merrill Lynch and sometimes think about going in to work a
> Microsoft 
> > once I'm well. I loved the interaction with the people and the
> laid 
> > back atmosphere of the IT department. I still miss that and them.
> It 
> > was a fun place before O'Neal's influence could be felt. It puts
> you on 
> > on a social auto-pilot that you hinted at below that is difficult
> to 
> > maintain when you are self-employed, and are not required to go
> out. 
> > Right now, I live in the suburbs because my husband wanted to be
> able to 
> > reach me if I had an emergency and was incapacitated. Also its
> cheaper 
> > out here and we had to live off one salary during me illness.
> However, 
> > I've been trying to explain to my Mom that why we want to move to
> an 
> > active part of the city is because it is easier to roll out of
> bed and 
> > do things. In the past, if I had easy access to activities, I
> stayed 
> > more social. If it required a lot of effort to get through,
> eventually 
> > I would stop the activity. 
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >> Having to go to work everyday helped me, as there are some folks
> there I'm able to talk and joke 

Re: [scifinoir2] "National Treasure 2" Rules Box Office - :(

[Martin]

For those who've never had the pleasure of living in-slash-visiting Atlanta, 
Keith's wife doesn't like driving on the freeways because she likes living...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i feel you. When i take days off i rarely 
spend all day at the house. I will work in the yard for a while, maybe do some 
chores. But after a few hours i get lonely and need to be around people. So I 
always go to the gym and take classes, then meet a friend for lunch, or my 
wife. Or, i'll just go to the bookstore or the park to be around people. 
although i love to write, i don't often write in solitude. I like to go to a 
coffee shop or the park and write. that's one reason i don't like watching 
movies at home only. i really miss interacting with people at the theatre.

I think some of this is because i was often very lonely as a child. but a lot 
of it is due to my personality. I really am a strong extrovert.

As for where you live, i pay a hell of a lot more mortgage for living IP 
(Inside the Perimeter, the loop around Atlanta) than I'd pay if I lived in the 
suburbs. The main issue was quality of life: I like the diversity closer in, 
the proximity to malls and theatres and downtown (though I'm ten miles away 
from the city), and the better choices in roads. In the 'burbs, there's usually 
only one or two roads that one can take to get to the city, and they often get 
clogged and backed up. Living closer in, one has more choices of taking 
surface, residential streets to get around. My wife doesn't like driving on the 
freeway much, and we can get all the way to downtown Atlanta without ever 
getting on the freeway. if we lived in the 'burbs, she'd have to get on 
congested roads every day. I'd lie to live truly down closer to the city, but a 
house the size of the one i have now (2300 square feet), in the same condition 
(1981) would cost half a million on the low end

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
You know, after a decade of working at home, I really enjoyed my stint 
at Merrill Lynch and sometimes think about going in to work a Microsoft 
once I'm well. I loved the interaction with the people and the laid 
back atmosphere of the IT department. I still miss that and them. It 
was a fun place before O'Neal's influence could be felt. It puts you on 
on a social auto-pilot that you hinted at below that is difficult to 
maintain when you are self-employed, and are not required to go out. 
Right now, I live in the suburbs because my husband wanted to be able to 
reach me if I had an emergency and was incapacitated. Also its cheaper 
out here and we had to live off one salary during me illness. However, 
I've been trying to explain to my Mom that why we want to move to an 
active part of the city is because it is easier to roll out of bed and 
do things. In the past, if I had easy access to activities, I stayed 
more social. If it required a lot of effort to get through, eventually 
I would stop the activity. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Having to go to work everyday helped me, as there are some folks there I'm 
> able to talk and joke with (none in my immediate group, unfortunately). 
> Having gone through this before with my dad's death, and during a period when 
> I was unemployed for a few months, I literally have been forcing myself to 
> get up and out: going to movies, bookstores, going out to eat, hitting the 
> gym. Christmas was the worst, because this is the first Christmas in a decade 
> where I couldn't go back to Texas to be with family (had to work). it was sad 
> and lonely being here in Atlanta, but again I forced myself to smile when I 
> wanted to cry, to laugh when I wanted to yell.
>
> Having this group to talk to about stuff really helps too-more than you'd 
> believe.
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of 
> death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately 
> during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married 
> and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want 
> to inflict it on them.
>
> Reece Jennings wrote:
> 
>> I hear you!
>>
>> Maurice Jennings
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>> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Astromancer
>> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "National Treasure 2" Rules Box Office - :(
>>
>>
>>
>> I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more...
>>
>> Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yah

RE: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi

[Martin]

I still LMNAO everytime I hear that one, Reece!

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  You've got 2 of my all-time 
favorites right there! I LOVED the last line
said to the guy getting into the spaceship in 'To Serve
Man'...LOLLOLLOL!

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:18 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi

I managed to catch one of my personal favorites, with Burgess Meredith
playing the guy who only wanted to read. I'm hoping to catch "To Serve Man"
before long.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote: Sci
Fi Channel is running its yearly "Twilight Zone" marathon now through
tomorrow evening. They just finished showing a good one with Johnathan
Winters and Jack Klugman, where Klugman is a pool player who challenges
Winters' ghost for title of the best ever. Later tonight is the classic "The
Monsters are Due on Maple Street".

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

[Martin]

Woody Allen is someone I've *never* been a fan of, which drives some of my 
close friends to distraction, since they adore his stuff. His Youth Movement 
sealed the deal on him for me. As for that pedo rapper- let us never speak of 
him again. Unless it's the day he's going into Joliet for the rest of his 
life...

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
Lou Rawls was on my list too. I think he still is. got no desire to 
see or hear him. I think over the past few years, there has been an 
increase in the number of entertainers whose lives and opinions we have 
been exposed to. Afterward we are bombarded with these views. So, I 
get disgusted, boycott them and over time, I sometimes find I can 
separate. Seinfeld is an example of something i can not watch. i don't 
see ever getting over that one. I really don't have a desire to see 
Uncle Jed and the family, but I notice now he does not upset me like he 
did when I first tried watching it after hearing what he did. I've seen 
the Scifi movies of Charleton Heston we mentioned so many time, I do not 
have a desire to watch, but again, I'm not driven away the way I used to 
and I can again think of those movies affectionately. Ironically, this 
happened some time after he announced he had Alzheimer's. It's like I 
felt he was punished enough. Not that he cares what I think

I'm not sure, but I think death, debilitating illness, or real hard 
times allows me to sometimes reacquire my affection for characters, 
shows, movies or the work of an asshole performer. 

Then again, I'm going on 20 years with Woody Allen. I did watch two of 
his movies over the past few years and felt guilty both times. I guess 
I'm not a big enough fan, so I have not watched any Woody stuff since. 
For a long time, I could not watch anything by John Wayne, now, if I 
here a movie he did is good, I will sometimes check it out. Clint 
Eastwood has been accused for domestic abuse on numerous occasions. I 
love his work in front of and behind the camera. Avoided him for a long 
time. Now I watch his stuff. Maybe I can watch his stuff because I do 
not hear about him kicking anyone's A** anymore. There are so many 
more. These people in Hollywood often seem ethically challenged. 

Maybe over the years, I have become ethically challenged as well. Don't 
know. 

Martin wrote:
> Tracey, I usually can't make that distinction. If someone famous does 
> something egregious, that's it for me, with regards to them. Wesley Snipes is 
> a prime example, for the reported way he regards women. Same with Lou Rawls. 
> I used to love his music until I learned of his barely-disguised misogyny. 
> After that, I tossed every album of his I had. Yes, kids, *albums*. Worth 
> *plenty*, had I bothered to sell them. Dislike is dislike, for me.
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Too much work for me. I have just learned to separate the characters 
> these people play from their characters. Otherwise, I'd be avoiding 
> more than a quarter of what I watch. So I like uncle Jed and Barnaby 
> Jones, but dislike Buddy Epson
>
> Martin wrote:
> 
>> Tracey, I'm not having that difficulty...
>>
>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
>> was thinking about Uncle Jed today. When I heard that, I was 
>> crushed. Same thing with him, try as I might, I can not hate him
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> the problem comes in when good hearted people with good intentions do 
>>> horrible things--which i think is probably the greater problem in humanity 
>>> than that caused by truly "evil" men doing evil things. I really don't 
>>> believe the likes of Heston or Stewart hate people; at least, not in the 
>>> way a Klansman might hate me. They honestly think their worldview is better 
>>> for everyone--me included. Again, it's the well-meaning people who rule us 
>>> with well-intentioned force that's the problem.
>>>
>>> By the way, add Buddy Ebsen to that group of extreme conservatives. Don't 
>>> know if you knew this, but the lady who played Miss Jane on "The Beverly 
>>> Hillbillies" --Nancy Kulp--ran for Congress as a Democrat from 
>>> Pennsylvania. Without warning her, Ebsen taped a radio ad for her 
>>> Republican opponent. The ad ended with the line, "I love you Nancy, but 
>>> you're too liberal for me". Culp was defeated by a 2-to-1 vote. This was in 
>>> the Reagan years, and her liberalism and probably known lifestyle (Kulp was 
>>> gay) probably would have lost her the election anyway, but Ebsen's 
>>> backstabbing betrayal devastated Culp. I had a hard time thinking of Uncle 
>>> Jed/Barnaby Miller the same way after that.
>>>
>>> -- Original message -- 
>>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>> That's what I read, but I did not know whether it had been updated. 
>>> Since reading the Wikipedia profile, at le

Re: Can you Stand Cruise? Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

[Martin]

Mike, he doesn't need the media's help for that. Remember "Oprah"?

Mike Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  I think people don't like Tom 
Cruise cause he is a Scientolgist and
doesn't promote Christianity left and right. So the media does as much
possible to make him look like he's crazy and is evil. Fact of the
matter is that he had 5 back to back to back movies that grossed over
$100 mil. and not many actors have accomplished that.

On Dec 31, 2007 4:25 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Cruise is a conundrum. I used to like his work back in the day. Knew
> he was a nut, but most of his antics were kept under raps, so I could
> ignore the noise of the real him. Then, he got rid of his long-time
> handlers and let the world see the real him, and now its like I have to
> get mentally prepared to watch him. I find myself sneering at the TV
> when he is on it. There is one exception. I absolutely love him as the
> psycho, assassin in Collateral. I guess he is a good maniac both on
> the screen and off. I hope to see more of that type of work.
> Unfortunately, he craves the adulation of playing the hero, so I'm not
> really expecting to see more of that type of performance for a long time
> to come
>
> Bosco Bosco wrote:
> > In some cases, like Tom Cruise, I just find the person so
> > objectionable that I can't watch their work because their personality
> > intrudes on the experience and ruins it for me.
> >
> > Bosco
> > --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Too much work for me. I have just learned to separate the
> >> characters
> >> these people play from their characters. Otherwise, I'd be
> >> avoiding
> >> more than a quarter of what I watch. So I like uncle Jed and
> >> Barnaby
> >> Jones, but dislike Buddy Epson
> >>
> >> Martin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Tracey, I'm not having that difficulty...
> >>>
> >>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> >>>
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was thinking
> >> about Uncle Jed today. When I heard that, I was
> >>
> >>> crushed. Same thing with him, try as I might, I can not hate him
> >>>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  the problem comes in when good hearted people with good
> 
> >> intentions do horrible things--which i think is probably the
> >> greater problem in humanity than that caused by truly "evil" men
> >> doing evil things. I really don't believe the likes of Heston or
> >> Stewart hate people; at least, not in the way a Klansman might hate
> >> me. They honestly think their worldview is better for everyone--me
> >> included. Again, it's the well-meaning people who rule us with
> >> well-intentioned force that's the problem.
> >>
>  By the way, add Buddy Ebsen to that group of extreme
> 
> >> conservatives. Don't know if you knew this, but the lady who played
> >> Miss Jane on "The Beverly Hillbillies" --Nancy Kulp--ran for
> >> Congress as a Democrat from Pennsylvania. Without warning her,
> >> Ebsen taped a radio ad for her Republican opponent. The ad ended
> >> with the line, "I love you Nancy, but you're too liberal for me".
> >> Culp was defeated by a 2-to-1 vote. This was in the Reagan years,
> >> and her liberalism and probably known lifestyle (Kulp was gay)
> >> probably would have lost her the election anyway, but Ebsen's
> >> backstabbing betrayal devastated Culp. I had a hard time thinking
> >> of Uncle Jed/Barnaby Miller the same way after that.
> >>
>  -- Original message --
>  From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> 
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
>  That's what I read, but I did not know whether it had been
> 
> >> updated.
> >>
>  Since reading the Wikipedia profile, at least I understand why I
> 
> >> have
> >>
>  liked him and why it is so hard to let go. The man was a card
>  carrying,outspoken liberal for years. It also shed like on
> 
> >> another star
> >>
>  I've admired who was all the way to the right... Jimmy Stewart.
> 
> >> It
> >>
>  seems the same thing happened to him. It still saddens me that
> 
> >> Heston
> >>
>  got so ugly in his old age
> 
>  Bosco Bosco wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Not necessarily, According to the IMDB. He's still alive:
> >
> > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm032/bio
> >
> > and Wikipedia as well
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleton_Heston
> >
> >
> > --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> He's dead? I had know idea
> >>
> >> Astromancer wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I don't know...I do know he's dead now...
> >>>
> >>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hasn't he
> >

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

[Martin]

Hmmm...
   
  Fire ants. Wonder if I could write a script that gets Tommy-Boy lying in a 
bed of one...

Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I lost the ability to stomache him when he began spouting his
knowledge of pharmacueticals, psychiatry and post partum depression.
That's when I relaized he was the typical ignorant white male
blowhard who thinks he's qualified to tell all other people how to
live. It sickened me to the point that I just couldn't stand to look
at him anymore. I've not seen a film he's made since then. He's less
of a boycott for me and more of just can't seperate his characters
from the actor issue.

Given his obvious penchant for the Chump Cracker Paternalistic
thought process, I'd rather lay in a bed of fire ants naked than
watch one of his flicks, even if they're great films.

Bosco
--- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ditto that on Tommy-Boy. Can't stand the man, from a personality
> standpoint and that Scientology thing (a dear friend of mine had a
> run-in with that bunch, and it left her scarred emotionally), but I
> have forced myself to watch a few of his movies ("Far and Away"
> this weekend, "Days of Thunder" the weekend before, "The Last
> Samurai" the weekend before), and all of his performances were
> top-flight. He's got chops. If he could only clam up and act, he'd
> be fine by my lights.
> 
> Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do that
> sometimes. In some cases when I disagree with an actor,
> director or a writer's opinions on something, I don't have a
> problem
> enjoying their work in spite of my differences of point of view,
> opinion etc.
> 
> On the other hand when an actor, writer, or director's opinion's
> veer
> into actions or behavior I find objectionable, I sometimes feel the
> need to boycott their work. For me Heston is one of those people
> whom
> I can no longer watch because of how they have behaved. It's much
> like boycotting a product manufacturer. I frequently write the
> person, their studios, and agency and tell them. I don't think they
> care or pay attention but it seems silly to boycott and not at
> least
> inform the company, person etc. 
> 
> In some cases, like Tom Cruise, I just find the person so
> objectionable that I can't watch their work because their
> personality
> intrudes on the experience and ruins it for me. 
> 
> Bosco
> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Too much work for me. I have just learned to separate the
> > characters 
> > these people play from their characters. Otherwise, I'd be
> > avoiding 
> > more than a quarter of what I watch. So I like uncle Jed and
> > Barnaby 
> > Jones, but dislike Buddy Epson
> > 
> > Martin wrote:
> > > Tracey, I'm not having that difficulty...
> > >
> > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was thinking
> > about Uncle Jed today. When I heard that, I was 
> > > crushed. Same thing with him, try as I might, I can not hate
> him
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > >> the problem comes in when good hearted people with good
> > intentions do horrible things--which i think is probably the
> > greater problem in humanity than that caused by truly "evil" men
> > doing evil things. I really don't believe the likes of Heston or
> > Stewart hate people; at least, not in the way a Klansman might
> hate
> > me. They honestly think their worldview is better for
> everyone--me
> > included. Again, it's the well-meaning people who rule us with
> > well-intentioned force that's the problem.
> > >>
> > >> By the way, add Buddy Ebsen to that group of extreme
> > conservatives. Don't know if you knew this, but the lady who
> played
> > Miss Jane on "The Beverly Hillbillies" --Nancy Kulp--ran for
> > Congress as a Democrat from Pennsylvania. Without warning her,
> > Ebsen taped a radio ad for her Republican opponent. The ad ended
> > with the line, "I love you Nancy, but you're too liberal for me".
> > Culp was defeated by a 2-to-1 vote. This was in the Reagan years,
> > and her liberalism and probably known lifestyle (Kulp was gay)
> > probably would have lost her the election anyway, but Ebsen's
> > backstabbing betrayal devastated Culp. I had a hard time thinking
> > of Uncle Jed/Barnaby Miller the same way after that.
> > >>
> > >> -- Original message -- 
> > >> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > >> That's what I read, but I did not know whether it had been
> > updated. 
> > >> Since reading the Wikipedia profile, at least I understand why
> I
> > have 
> > >> liked him and why it is so hard to let go. The man was a card 
> > >> carrying,outspoken liberal for years. It also shed like on
> > another star 
> > >> I've admired who was all the way to the right... Jimmy
> Stewart.
> > It 
> > >> seems the same thing happened to him. It still saddens me that
> > Heston 
> > >> got so ugly in his old age
> > 

RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

[KeithBJohnson]

that's quite interesting. how'd you get into that?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
High school and youth football. I've done some Semi-pro games, and a couple
of college 
scrimmages.

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:32 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

i forgot that; what do you referee?

-- Original message -- 
From: "Reece Jennings" mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com>
yahoo.com> 
I am a Zebra (note the capitalization!), and I know and agree with the
words.
We are human, and mistakes with calls, while hard to take, are sometimes
made.
That's the reason for instant replay. I have some calls I've made that I
would
give anything to take back.

But to put hands on a player...NEVER!!!

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On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player

I ahve many words for zebras. Most of them would get this group shut down
again.

In so many words, that was the live-action version of that Bud commercial,
in which the zebra overhears a defensive coordinator exhorting his squad
with promises of beer for a good hit, which drives the zebra to make a
monster hit on the quarterback, and do a full celebration over the fallen
player. He got too caught up in the moment, forgot that he was there to be
neutral.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote:
WTF?? What's up with this umpire that he's tackling and choking players--in
more than one game? Shouldn't he just get out of the way if the melee gets
out of hand? Heck, what does he do if a maddened player inadvertently starts
whaling on him--bring mace or a stun gun to the stadium?
Maybe this ump needs to audition for the new American Gladiators!!
**
[From Wisconsis radio and AP sources]
GREEN BAY - After saying earlier in the week that it wouldn't take
discipline umpire Jim Quirk, who pulled Green Bay Packers linebacker Nick
Barnett down from behind in a choke hold during a skirmish during last
Sunday's game at Chicago, the NFL announced Friday that it fined Quirk for
"inappropriate physical contact with players."
Quirk was notified he was fined one game check ($8,150) by NFL executive
vice president of football operations Ray Anderson. Quirk can appeal the
fine to commissioner Roger Goodell. Quirk was notified in person at the NFL
office on Friday morning, when Goodell spoke to Quirk in his office. Goodell
also spoke by phone on Thursday to Barnett and Packers coach Mike McCarthy,
the league said.
The fine includes a similar incident involving Falcons running back Jason
Snelling on a kickoff return in the Atlanta-Tampa Bay game on Dec. 16,
according to an NFL spokesman. Quirk was also involved in another incident
just before halftime of the Arizona-Washington game on Oct. 21, when he took
Cardinals lineman Elton Brown to the ground with a similar move.
The NFL made the announcement after the Friday locker-room availability
period was over. Asked during the availability whether he'd gotten the
apology from Quirk he was looking for, Barnett said, "No ... well, sort
of."

Barnett might not file a formal grievance against NFL official Jim Quirk
after all. The Green Bay Packers linebacker's agent says he is more
interested in having the league admit that Quirk's rough treatment of
Barnett was wrong.

"Look, I don't think there's a lot to be gained by a grievance," agent Chuck
Price said Thursday. "All we're trying to do is to protect Nick."...Price
previously told several media outlets he was considering filing a grievance
with the league over the incident. League officials haven't announced any
action against Barnett or the official.

Price says Barnett gets fined all the time for actions that aren't as
serious, such as wearing the wrong color wristband or committing a routine
face mask penalty during a game.

"This guy comes with a WWF choke hold, and just gets let go," Price said.

Packers coach Mike McCarthy called Quirk's ac

RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator

[Martin]

LMNAO

Reece Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  (DEEP 
VOICE)...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:37 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator

And we love you too, man!

In an understandably manly way, mind you.

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote:
LOL! Just a little end-of-year fun! And because I love you folks!

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On
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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 9:47 AM
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Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator

True...Now why are you messin' wit our heads??

Reece Jennings mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>
wrote: "In my opinion the new mac OS is nothing more than apple embracing
the 
Windows OS at the cost of mac fans."

Amen. It's the old show me the money formula. When Apple became 
Big corporate, I'm sure they realized that the BIG money wasn't in the
colleges,
because even though students used MACs in school, the corporate world
basically
runs on Dunkin' Donuts and Microsoft...

Corporations have no fans.

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On
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Plug Pulled on Netscape Navigator

In a message dated 12/30/07 10:48:25 PM, KeithBJohnson@
 comcast.net writes:

> a good friend of mine has been working with Linux for the last three years

> and puts it on all laptops and desktops he has. My goal for this winter is
to 
> build two computers. One i will keep as a Windows machine simply for ease
of 
> storing existing files. Probably keep it as XP, 'casue i don't care for 
> Vista. The real goal, though, is to build a Linux box.
> 

Actually a friend of mine is seriously thinking about switching to Linux 
instead of moving over to OS 10.5 because it's more geared to Intel Macs
instead 
of normal PPC macs (like his). He hates the idea that he has to upgrade to a

new type of mac that has little-to-no difference performance wise because of

an OS change. And after looking at the stats of both of them I agree with 
him. In my opinion the new mac OS is nothing more than apple embracing the 
Windows OS at the cost of mac fans.

As for Netscape Navigator. It was the first browser I used-and used it for 
a while before I settle upon Firefox and Safari so it will aways have a fond

spot in my heart. But yeah AOL did killed it and Firefox has surpassed it so

to let it die a peaceful death.

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might say something that interests the Community, and you really, really
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RE: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi

[Reece Jennings]

Heck, yes!  And talking about dated, I remember Flash Gordon telling Ming
he was going to catch him because his spaceship traveled at the fantastic
speed of 1200 miles per hour!  I guess that sparkler drive could really go!
 
But  as we know, at the time these episodes were made, there was no way
concepts were near where they are now...I give the credit for taking a stab
at what the future might hold.  Makes for good laughs now, though!
 
Like somebody will be laughing at our stuff in 25 years!
 
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yeah, i meant to mention the one with Meredith having time to read. That was
a good one. "It's a Good Life" is today at 2:50--a classic! And the great
"Living Doll" ("I'm Talking Tina--and you'd better be nice to me!") is at
4:20 today. Also today is the ep starring a young Robert Redford as the man
who wants help from the old lady afraid to die.
You know, even though much of the science in Zone is dated (people walking
around in atomic wastelands with no problems, alien planets only a few
million miles away) the drama, acting, and writing still remain among the
best TV ever, and is still immensely enjoyable.

-- Original message -- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I managed to catch one of my personal favorites, with Burgess Meredith
playing the guy who only wanted to read. I'm hoping to catch "To Serve Man"
before long.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote: Sci
Fi Channel is running its yearly "Twilight Zone" marathon now through
tomorrow evening. They just finished showing a good one with Johnathan
Winters and Jack Klugman, where Klugman is a pool player who challenges
Winters' ghost for title of the best ever. Later tonight is the classic "The
Monsters are Due on Maple Street".

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RE: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi

[Reece Jennings]

You've got 2 of my all-time favorites right there!  I LOVED the last line
said to the guy getting into the spaceship in 'To Serve
Man'...LOLLOLLOL!
 
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Behalf Of Martin
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi



I managed to catch one of my personal favorites, with Burgess Meredith
playing the guy who only wanted to read. I'm hoping to catch "To Serve Man"
before long.

KeithBJohnson@  comcast.net wrote: Sci
Fi Channel is running its yearly "Twilight Zone" marathon now through
tomorrow evening. They just finished showing a good one with Johnathan
Winters and Jack Klugman, where Klugman is a pool player who challenges
Winters' ghost for title of the best ever. Later tonight is the classic "The
Monsters are Due on Maple Street".

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Re: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi

[KeithBJohnson]

yeah, i meant to mention the one with Meredith having time to read. That was a 
good one. "It's a Good Life" is today at 2:50--a classic! And the great "Living 
Doll" ("I'm Talking Tina--and you'd better be nice to me!") is at 4:20 today. 
Also today is the ep starring a young Robert Redford as the man who wants help 
from the old lady afraid to die.
You know, even though much of the science in Zone is dated (people walking 
around in atomic wastelands with no problems, alien planets only a few million 
miles away) the drama, acting, and writing still remain among the best TV ever, 
and is still immensely enjoyable.

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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I managed to catch one of my personal favorites, with Burgess Meredith playing 
the guy who only wanted to read. I'm hoping to catch "To Serve Man" before long.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sci Fi Channel is running its yearly "Twilight Zone" 
marathon now through tomorrow evening. They just finished showing a good one 
with Johnathan Winters and Jack Klugman, where Klugman is a pool player who 
challenges Winters' ghost for title of the best ever. Later tonight is the 
classic "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street".

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organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Sweeney Todd

[Martin]

I've heard that it was. It's on my list as well.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  just got back from seeing "Juno". Very good 
movie

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
"Atonement" I do want to see.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to catch "Juno", which I hear is good, and plan to 
see tomorrow. It stars up-and-coming Canadian actress Ellen Page ("Hard Candy", 
Kitty in the "X-Men") as a young pregnant teen who makes a matter-of-fact 
decision to give up her child. I hear it's funny, well-written, and well acted.
"Atonement" is also getting rave reviews. I hope to see that on New Year's day.

Not surprised about Sweeny Todd. Most critics are raving about it, but it 
didn't seem like anything that'd hold my attention.

-- Original message -- 
From: Bosco Bosco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
So I just got back in from watching Sweeney Todd with my girlfriend
and my kids. They all liked it pretty well. I was not too impressed.
It looked good. It was typically "Burton" dark. The costumes were
really nice and there are some truly funny moments throughout the
film. Overall, it's just a bore. It's way way way too long and
there's not enough plot or character to carry the length of the film.
Additionally there are no likeable, at least for me, characters. So
while there are some good bits, I just couldn't find enough good
things to bring me into the story. Frankly, if you take out the dark
parts and the gore, and there is a lot of blood, it's just another
generic two dimensional musical with an underdeveloped plot.

I guess I'm also bummed that I don't go to that many movies at the
theater and I feel like I wasted my money on this one.

Bosco

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

[Martin]

Both men have, at one time or another, made statements that weren't entirely 
flattering toward women. Havign been raised primarily by women, I didn't 
appreciate the sentiments. If I can find the actual words, I'll post them.

RaAyyMOND C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  What did Lou Rawls, and Wesley 
Snipes did?


Tracey, I usually can't make that distinction. If someone famous does something 
egregious, that's it for me, with regards to them. Wesley Snipes is a prime 
example, for the reported way he regards women. Same with Lou Rawls. I used to 
love his music until I learned of his barely-disguised misogyny. After that, I 
tossed every album of his I had. Yes, kids, *albums*. Worth *plenty*, had I 
bothered to sell them. Dislike is dislike, for me.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Happy New Year

[Martin]

This isn't the only place I live online, but I couldn't imagine life without 
this group.

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
This is my absolute favorite online community of all time. It is also now
the only one I actively contribute to.

Thank you all for a fun and interesting year.

May you all have a safe and prosperous 2008.

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[scifinoir2] OT Fwd: [milliways-L] RIAA Declares Using Brain to Remember Songs is Criminal Copyright Infr

[Martin]

Okay, now. Who's guilty?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:24:34 -0600
Subject: [milliways-L] RIAA Declares Using Brain to Remember Songs is Criminal 
Copyright
Infr

[newstarget.com]

On the heels of the RIAA's recent decision to criminalize consumers who
rip songs from albums they've purchased to their computers (or iPods),
the association has now gone one step further and declared that
"remembering songs" using your brain is criminal copyright infringement.
"The brain is a recording device," explained RIAA president Cary
Sherman. 
"The act of listening is an unauthorized act of copying music to that
recording device, and the act of recalling or remembering a song is
unauthorized playback." The RIAA also said it would begin sending
letters to tens of millions of consumers thought to be illegally
remembering songs... 

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Re: [scifinoir2] "Twilight Zone" Marathon on Sci Fi

[Martin]

I managed to catch one of my personal favorites, with Burgess Meredith playing 
the guy who only wanted to read. I'm hoping to catch "To Serve Man" before long.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sci Fi Channel is running its yearly 
"Twilight Zone" marathon now through tomorrow evening. They just finished 
showing a good one with Johnathan Winters and Jack Klugman, where Klugman is a 
pool player who challenges Winters' ghost for title of the best ever. Later 
tonight is the classic "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street".

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Re: [scifinoir2] A cold, hard look at science's hottest mysteries: dark energy

[Martin]

Now this is fun stuff. This could ultimately elad to the solution of the Theory 
of Everything, and put me right out of a secondary line of work.

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-telescope_31dec31,1,6396217.story
chicagotribune.com

A cold, hard look at one of science's hottest mysteries
Dark energy -- it's gravity's worst enemy and the hottest mystery in
science. Now, a giant telescope at the South Pole could help us learn
more.

By William Mullen

Tribune staff reporter

December 31, 2007

AMUNDSEN-SCOTT STATION, Antarctica


Anywhere on Earth this would be a big telescope, as high as a
seven-story building, with a main mirror measuring 32 1/2 feet across.
But here at the South Pole, it seems especially large, looming over a
barren plain of ice that gets colder than anywhere else on the planet.
Scientists built the instrument at the end of the world so they can
search for clues that might identify the most powerful, plentiful but
elusive substance in the universe -- dark energy.

First described just nine years ago, dark energy is a mysterious force
so powerful that it will decide the fate of the universe. Having
already overruled the laws of gravity, it is pushing galaxies away
from one another, causing the universe to expand at an ever faster rate.

Though dark energy is believed to account for 70 percent of the
universe's mass, it is invisible and virtually undetectable. Nobody
knows what it is, where it is or how it behaves.

"If you see it in your basement," jokes University of Chicago
cosmologist Rocky Kolb, "you better get back on your medication." But
he knows better than most the high priority the world's governments
and scientists have placed on coming to a fuller understanding of the
invisible force.

"Many think dark energy is the most important problem in physics
today," said Kolb, who recently served as chairman of the Dark Energy
Task Force, convened in 2005 by the U.S. Department of Energy, NASA
and the National Science Foundation.

Figuring out what dark energy is would explain the history and future
of the universe and generate new understanding of physical laws that,
applied to human invention, almost certainly will change the way we
live -- just as breakthroughs in quantum mechanics brought us the
computer chip.

Swinging its massive mirror skyward, the South Pole Telescope for the
last few months has begun to search the southern polar heavens for
shreds of evidence of the elusive stuff. Controlled remotely from the
University of Chicago, the $19.2 million telescope has quickly
succeeded in its first mission: finding unknown galaxy clusters, clues
to the emergence of dark energy.

The construction crew

The U. of C. has a stronger astronomy presence at the pole than
perhaps any other institution, having built several smaller
experimental telescopes here over the last 20 years. This scope,
however, was by far the most ambitious project.

Its components had to be custom-built by scientists and craftsmen in
several different parts of the world, then shipped to Antarctica in
pieces for final assembly. The largest sections of the telescope were
carefully designed so each could fit into ski-equipped military
transport planes. It took 25 flights to ferry 260 tons of telescope
components.

Late last year, a crew composed mostly of graduate students spent
eight hours a day outdoors to help put them all together.

"It gets really, really cold, because you aren't moving much," said
Joachin Vieira, 28, a graduate student in physics. "There's steel
behind you, steel in front of you, and you're holding steel tools."

His crew was assembling a 10-meter aluminum mirror and attaching it to
a carbon fiber backing designed to keep the mirror rigid in the
powerful South Pole winds.

Earlier they had spent three months doing a dry run on the mirror
assembly in the blazing summer heat of Kilgore, Texas. At the pole,
temperatures never warmed beyond 20 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.
Crew members said it took hours after coming back indoors before their
fingers loosened enough to type on their computers.

"We have to get these pieces into place to within 1/2000th of an inch
of accuracy," said Jeff McMahon, 29, a postdoctoral physics student.
"If you move, you risk screwing it up, so you stand motionless at 20
degrees below zero."

Also out there, slinging two-by-fours alongside ironworkers putting
together the telescope's main structure, was John Carlstrom, a veteran
South Pole astronomer and University of Chicago astrophysicist who is
heading up the international team that designed and constructed the
telescope.

Senior scientists at six other institutions are collaborating with
Carlstrom's Chicago team, including the University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign, University of California at Berkeley, NASA's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory, and Harvard, Case Western Reserve and McGill
Universities. The project is funded mainly by the National Science
Foundation wi

Re: [scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

[Martin]

Irregardless of race or menthol inclusion, I can't fathom the stupididty of 
smoking. And, for anyone who smokes voluntarily here, I'd be happy to forward 
you pics of what my right lung looked like after they pulled it out of me. On 
second thought, I can't. I'm sure that you all enjoyed your last meals.

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-quitting_side_31dec31,0,6314512.story
chicagotribune.com

African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

By Deborah L. Shelton

Tribune staff reporter

December 31, 2007

Smoking rates in Chicago and nationwide currently hover at about 21
percent, down by half from 1965, federal statistics show.

Yet smoking among African-Americans rose in 2006, to 23 percent from
21 percent.

In North Lawndale and some other parts of Chicago, as many as 39
percent of African-American adults smoke, said Joseph West, an
epidemiologist who works with a community-based smoking cessation
program at Sinai Urban Health Institute.

"Three decades have gone by and the smoking rate in this community
hasn't changed," West said.

Smoking patterns could help explain why rates among African-Americans
tend to be higher, said Pebbles Fagan of the National Cancer Institute.

More than three-quarters of white people smoke non-menthol cigarettes,
and typically they light up for the first time when they are under
age. African-Americans usually begin when they are adults, and
three-quarters smoke menthol brands, government data show.

Some studies have found that menthol cigarettes contain higher levels
of tar and nicotine. Menthol also has been shown to lower the body's
ability to metabolize nicotine, which results in greater exposure.

When West does intervention work in black neighborhoods, he said,
people often tell him they want to quit but can't afford prescription
medications and treatments such as patches.

But individual cigarettes, or "loosies," are readily available for 50
cents.

West said more of the state's tobacco settlement money should be
directed to poor communities.

"We need to begin to look at where we spend those tobacco revenues in
terms of investing in young people and communities," he said.

--

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

See also "As smoking ban looms, science tries to snuff urge," Page 1

Copyright © 2007, Chicago Tribune



 


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[scifinoir2] Re: Happy New Year

[maidmarian_thepoet]

Thanks, may it be so for us all.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> This is my absolute favorite online community of all time. It is
also now
> the only one I actively contribute to.
> 
> Thank you all for a fun and interesting  year.
> 
> May you  all  have a safe and prosperous 2008.
> 
> 
> Daryle
>

[scifinoir2] African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

[ravenadal]

www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-quitting_side_31dec31,0,6314512.story
chicagotribune.com

African-American smoking rates tied to menthol, research finds

By Deborah L. Shelton

Tribune staff reporter

December 31, 2007

Smoking rates in Chicago and nationwide currently hover at about 21
percent, down by half from 1965, federal statistics show.

Yet smoking among African-Americans rose in 2006, to 23 percent from
21 percent.

In North Lawndale and some other parts of Chicago, as many as 39
percent of African-American adults smoke, said Joseph West, an
epidemiologist who works with a community-based smoking cessation
program at Sinai Urban Health Institute.

"Three decades have gone by and the smoking rate in this community
hasn't changed," West said.

Smoking patterns could help explain why rates among African-Americans
tend to be higher, said Pebbles Fagan of the National Cancer Institute.

More than three-quarters of white people smoke non-menthol cigarettes,
and typically they light up for the first time when they are under
age. African-Americans usually begin when they are adults, and
three-quarters smoke menthol brands, government data show.

Some studies have found that menthol cigarettes contain higher levels
of tar and nicotine. Menthol also has been shown to lower the body's
ability to metabolize nicotine, which results in greater exposure.

When West does intervention work in black neighborhoods, he said,
people often tell him they want to quit but can't afford prescription
medications and treatments such as patches.

But individual cigarettes, or "loosies," are readily available for 50
cents.

West said more of the state's tobacco settlement money should be
directed to poor communities.

"We need to begin to look at where we spend those tobacco revenues in
terms of investing in young people and communities," he said.

--

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

See also "As smoking ban looms, science tries to snuff urge," Page 1

Copyright © 2007, Chicago Tribune

[scifinoir2] A cold, hard look at science's hottest mysteries: dark energy

[ravenadal]

www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-telescope_31dec31,1,6396217.story
chicagotribune.com

A cold, hard look at one of science's hottest mysteries
Dark energy -- it's gravity's worst enemy and the hottest mystery in
science. Now, a giant telescope at the South Pole could help us learn
more.

By William Mullen

Tribune staff reporter

December 31, 2007

AMUNDSEN-SCOTT STATION, Antarctica
 

Anywhere on Earth this would be a big telescope, as high as a
seven-story building, with a main mirror measuring 32 1/2 feet across.
But here at the South Pole, it seems especially large, looming over a
barren plain of ice that gets colder than anywhere else on the planet.
Scientists built the instrument at the end of the world so they can
search for clues that might identify the most powerful, plentiful but
elusive substance in the universe -- dark energy.

First described just nine years ago, dark energy is a mysterious force
so powerful that it will decide the fate of the universe. Having
already overruled the laws of gravity, it is pushing galaxies away
from one another, causing the universe to expand at an ever faster rate.

Though dark energy is believed to account for 70 percent of the
universe's mass, it is invisible and virtually undetectable. Nobody
knows what it is, where it is or how it behaves.

"If you see it in your basement," jokes University of Chicago
cosmologist Rocky Kolb, "you better get back on your medication." But
he knows better than most the high priority the world's governments
and scientists have placed on coming to a fuller understanding of the
invisible force.

"Many think dark energy is the most important problem in physics
today," said Kolb, who recently served as chairman of the Dark Energy
Task Force, convened in 2005 by the U.S. Department of Energy, NASA
and the National Science Foundation.

Figuring out what dark energy is would explain the history and future
of the universe and generate new understanding of physical laws that,
applied to human invention, almost certainly will change the way we
live -- just as breakthroughs in quantum mechanics brought us the
computer chip.

Swinging its massive mirror skyward, the South Pole Telescope for the
last few months has begun to search the southern polar heavens for
shreds of evidence of the elusive stuff. Controlled remotely from the
University of Chicago, the $19.2 million telescope has quickly
succeeded in its first mission: finding unknown galaxy clusters, clues
to the emergence of dark energy.

The construction crew

The U. of C. has a stronger astronomy presence at the pole than
perhaps any other institution, having built several smaller
experimental telescopes here over the last 20 years. This scope,
however, was by far the most ambitious project.

Its components had to be custom-built by scientists and craftsmen in
several different parts of the world, then shipped to Antarctica in
pieces for final assembly. The largest sections of the telescope were
carefully designed so each could fit into ski-equipped military
transport planes. It took 25 flights to ferry 260 tons of telescope
components.

Late last year, a crew composed mostly of graduate students spent
eight hours a day outdoors to help put them all together.

"It gets really, really cold, because you aren't moving much," said
Joachin Vieira, 28, a graduate student in physics. "There's steel
behind you, steel in front of you, and you're holding steel tools."

His crew was assembling a 10-meter aluminum mirror and attaching it to
a carbon fiber backing designed to keep the mirror rigid in the
powerful South Pole winds.

Earlier they had spent three months doing a dry run on the mirror
assembly in the blazing summer heat of Kilgore, Texas. At the pole,
temperatures never warmed beyond 20 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.
Crew members said it took hours after coming back indoors before their
fingers loosened enough to type on their computers.

"We have to get these pieces into place to within 1/2000th of an inch
of accuracy," said Jeff McMahon, 29, a postdoctoral physics student.
"If you move, you risk screwing it up, so you stand motionless at 20
degrees below zero."

Also out there, slinging two-by-fours alongside ironworkers putting
together the telescope's main structure, was John Carlstrom, a veteran
South Pole astronomer and University of Chicago astrophysicist who is
heading up the international team that designed and constructed the
telescope.

Senior scientists at six other institutions are collaborating with
Carlstrom's Chicago team, including the University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign, University of California at Berkeley, NASA's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory, and Harvard, Case Western Reserve and McGill
Universities. The project is funded mainly by the National Science
Foundation with additional money coming from two California donors --
the Kavli Foundation and the Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation.

A thoughtful, soft-spoken man, Carlstrom honed his skills at physical
l