Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

[Mr. Worf]

This is slightly off topic, but I think that corporations have too much
influence over the artistic decision making of most of the tv shows and
movies as of late. STV and DS9 could have been better shows if they weren't
being milked for every dollar.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:00 AM, B. Smith  wrote:

> Well I needed my weekly Supernatural fix and I liked Reaper as well. Plus I
> watched Everybody Hates Chris and The Game. I also liked their shortlived
> show Easy Money. Now that everything but Supernatural is gone they are
> sliding off my radar.
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>  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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> In fact with the possible exception of Jericho (which I still think is one
> > of CBS' unregonized gems) it would make me very happy if it actually did
> > just go away. As it is now it's not only unwatchable it's now insulting.
> > But that's just me.
> >
> >
> > -GTW
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> > In a message dated 5/31/09 3:04:26 PM, dar...@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > The CW ain't exactly GM. If it went away tomorrow I wonder f anybody
> > > would even notice. I haven't watched the channel in...
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> > > On May 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying
> > > > this $60/month internet bill, save myself the money.
> > > >
> > > > To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my
> > > > TV; BET, Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said.
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[scifinoir2] Re: Blacks in Space: If sci-fi is the future, why is it so white?

[Curtis, Jr.]

I'm sorry. I just realized you made this post.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella"  wrote:
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> George
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> Great Find!!
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> Thanks
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> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of George Arterberry
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:15 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
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> Star Trek's Lt. Uhura was a science-fiction pioneer in the 1970s -- a black 
> woman answering the phone, I mean computer, in space. Uhura, played by 
> actress Nichelle Nichols, was the communications officer, a role that would 
> go on to be a popular one for futuristic minorities. While she was 
> groundbreaking in that she was a black woman who survived quite well in 
> space, her story lines were few, her adventures were stunted, and her 
> romances were nonexistent. The philandering Capt. Kirk had to be forced to 
> kiss the comely Uhura -- apparently in the future, interracial lip-lock is 
> just as controversial as it was in the 1970s.
> 
> Nichols paved the way for Kandyse McClure's character Petty Officer Dualla, a 
> black woman who also starts out answering the phone, on the critically 
> acclaimed Battlestar Galactica series remake that wrapped this year. Dualla 
> fares better than Uhura in that she gets her own story line, experiences a 
> real romance, and has some adventures. But she commits suicide in the final 
> season of the series.
> 
> And these are the two primary options for blacks in space: Either you're 
> marginalized or killed off. (Or, in the worst-case scenario, you're 
> marginalized and still die.)
> 
> So when word got out that director J.J. Abrams was set to re-envision the 
> original Star Trek, with a big-budget film released last month, I was looking 
> out for Lt. Uhura. And she is certainly there, played by actress Zoë 
> Saldana. She's right where we left her in the 1970s, still answering the 
> phone.
> 
> Science-fiction story lines might take place in the future, but they are 
> written in the now. They reflect the mind-set of the creators and the times 
> they live in. If most science-fiction films are to be believed, in the future 
> English is the main language. Not only do human beings still exist, they are 
> almost all white and they have mastered quantum physics. I'm sure none of 
> this has anything to do with the genre being dominated by the American film 
> industry and predominantly white, male writers. They've merely looked into 
> their crystal ball and seen the future. And the future is white!
> 
> Actor Joe Morton, who appeared in both writer/director John Sayles' 1984 cult 
> classic The Brother From Another Planet and 1991 blockbuster Terminator 2: 
> Judgment Day, recalls an old Richard Pryor joke. "Hollywood didn't think we'd 
> be around in the future," Morton says, "so why put us in the sci-fi movies?"
> 
> He continues, "If you are a 50- to 60-year-old white producer in Hollywood, 
> for the ‘heroic image' you're not going to think of a black man or woman. 
> Consequently, black roles in sci-fi are tokens. He was the communications 
> expert. The communications expert would also then be the first one to be 
> killed. First one to die." When George Lucas offered Samuel L. Jackson a role 
> in the final Star Wars prequel as the Jedi Mace Windu, Jackson agreed on the 
> condition his character not die "like some punk."
> 
> This is understandable coming from an actor who dies in many films, including 
> a few sci-fi flicks (Jurassic Park and Deep Blue Sea), often a few minutes 
> after his opening scene. And Jackson is not alone. Actress Bianca Lawson only 
> lasted for three episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer before her character, a 
> Jamaican vampire-slayer named Kendra, is killed off. Charles S. Dutton is 
> heavily featured in the third film of the Alien franchise, but his character 
> dies a horrid, painful death. In the bug-killing, utopian/ fascism parody 
> Starship Troopers, all the minority characters are purposeless and 
> peripheral. The lone black female washes out of boot camp after accidentally 
> killing a fellow recruit.
>

[scifinoir2] Blacks in Space: If sci-fi is the future, why is it so white?

[Curtis, Jr.]

Blacks in Space 
  
If sci-fi is the future, why is it so white?  
  
Danielle C. Belton | May 29, 2009  
  
 
Star Trek's Lt. Uhura was a science-fiction pioneer in the 1970s -- a black 
woman answering the phone, I mean computer, in space. Uhura, played by actress 
Nichelle Nichols, was the communications officer, a role that would go on to be 
a popular one for futuristic minorities. While she was groundbreaking in that 
she was a black woman who survived quite well in space, her story lines were 
few, her adventures were stunted, and her romances were nonexistent. The 
philandering Capt. Kirk had to be forced to kiss the comely Uhura -- apparently 
in the future, interracial lip-lock is just as controversial as it was in the 
1970s. 
Nichols paved the way for Kandyse McClure's character Petty Officer Dualla, a 
black woman who also starts out answering the phone, on the critically 
acclaimed Battlestar Galactica series remake that wrapped this year. Dualla 
fares better than Uhura in that she gets her own story line, experiences a real 
romance, and has some adventures. But she commits suicide in the final season 
of the series. 

And these are the two primary options for blacks in space: Either you're 
marginalized or killed off. (Or, in the worst-case scenario, you're 
marginalized and still die.) 

So when word got out that director J.J. Abrams was set to re-envision the 
original Star Trek, with a big-budget film released last month, I was looking 
out for Lt. Uhura. And she is certainly there, played by actress Zoë Saldana. 
She's right where we left her in the 1970s, still answering the phone. 

Science-fiction story lines might take place in the future, but they are 
written in the now. They reflect the mind-set of the creators and the times 
they live in. If most science-fiction films are to be believed, in the future 
English is the main language. Not only do human beings still exist, they are 
almost all white and they have mastered quantum physics. I'm sure none of this 
has anything to do with the genre being dominated by the American film industry 
and predominantly white, male writers. They've merely looked into their crystal 
ball and seen the future. And the future is white! 

Actor Joe Morton, who appeared in both writer/director John Sayles' 1984 cult 
classic The Brother From Another Planet and 1991 blockbuster Terminator 2: 
Judgment Day, recalls an old Richard Pryor joke. "Hollywood didn't think we'd 
be around in the future," Morton says, "so why put us in the sci-fi movies?" 

He continues, "If you are a 50- to 60-year-old white producer in Hollywood, for 
the `heroic image' you're not going to think of a black man or woman. 
Consequently, black roles in sci-fi are tokens. He was the communications 
expert. The communications expert would also then be the first one to be 
killed. First one to die." When George Lucas offered Samuel L. Jackson a role 
in the final Star Wars prequel as the Jedi Mace Windu, Jackson agreed on the 
condition his character not die "like some punk." 

This is understandable coming from an actor who dies in many films, including a 
few sci-fi flicks (Jurassic Park and Deep Blue Sea), often a few minutes after 
his opening scene. And Jackson is not alone. Actress Bianca Lawson only lasted 
for three episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer before her character, a Jamaican 
vampire-slayer named Kendra, is killed off. Charles S. Dutton is heavily 
featured in the third film of the Alien franchise, but his character dies a 
horrid, painful death. In the bug-killing, utopian/ fascism parody Starship 
Troopers, all the minority characters are purposeless and peripheral. The lone 
black female washes out of boot camp after accidentally killing a fellow 
recruit. 

The controversial death of Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje's character Mr. Eko on 
ABC's Lost at the hands (does it have hands?) of the "smoke monster" led many 
minority fans to believe there was a conspiracy to cleanse the show of all its 
black and Latino characters. Before Eko was gobbled up by the dark, bilious 
puff, minority actors Harold Perrineau and Michelle Rodriguez had also been 
written off the show. 

This isn't to say that minorities are always relegated to minor guest 
characters who are doomed to die a purposeless death. In Terminator 2, Morton's 
character dies trying to save the world. Morpheus, the rebel leader played by 
Laurence Fishburne in The Matrix, guides the hero to his true path, and Capt. 
Benjamin Sisko of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was the first African American 
actor to lead a starship on the long-running franchise. While his character was 
thin the first few seasons, eventually the writers gave Sisko well-rounded 
stories and a passionate personality that separated him from the more stoic but 
popular Capt. Jean Luc-Picard from the previous series. Sisko was an 
improvement over the castrated black characters of Star Trek: The Next 
Generation, which included Giordi LaForge, a 

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

[Reece Jennings]

Thanks, Fate!  Good to know!

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 10:55 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!






Reece,

actually we call all flag officers "sir".  regardless of sex, unless they
specify it.  being a Marine i have had 2 report 2 female commanders,
captains, and admirals and called them sir.  only  a handful will correct u
on it.  and then only if u r directly in their command.  

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Reece Jennings  wrote:




From: Reece Jennings 
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 10:18 PM





And probably not female, either!
 
I just watched a short special on Black Marines in WWII, and especially
Okinawa.  There were NO 
photos of them, and they were left out of the latest movies, too.
Ironically, a white woman who 
believes in honoring ALL war veterans dug out tons of pictures from the
National Archives in DC.
 
So, if there HAS been any progress, they will portray this amazing admiral
just as she is, warts and
all.  Because being human and overcoming a lot of what that means is what
makes sheroes and heroes.
 
And maybe one day, as in BSG, ALL flag officers will be called 'sir'.  I
thought that was the coolest!
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:58 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!





This was posted when it happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the
morning when I posted it and did not put a subject on it.  I have a feeling
her role will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be
downplayed and not Black.  I hope I am wrong



From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!









Martin, 

you are right.  we did this when it first broke.  thin Amy slept on this
one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:


From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM


I thought we did post this.





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Subject : [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
>From : "Amy" 
To : 


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The
Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of
the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia
pirates. 

"It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in
for a long while," Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank
of admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to
command a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the
Army's Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

"Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0
she told the Navy Times. "We are quite capable of staying out here and doing
this mission." 

Howard's task force operates with U.S. warships deployed to the eastern
Africa area as well as those sent from allied nations. Before her assignment
to the strike group, Howard was the senior military assistant to the
Secretary of the Navy. 













http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

[Reece Jennings]

Have you seen 'Flags of our Fathers'?  Same thing, with all Marines shown as
white.

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 12:28 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!






I'm not a veteran, yet I agree with you. When I heard that about the
Brother, I decided not to see that movie...

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From: "Augustus Augustus" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 6:14:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!






Trace,

that is the exact reason that i have yet to watch and never will watch world
trade center.  the nick cage movie about the firefighters.  there was a
Marine (and u know how i feel about my beloved United States Marine Corps -
Ohh Rah!) who was pivotal in helping the fire fighters and getting the
people organized in the rescue effort.  he was a Black Marine and in the
movie they used a white guy.  they producers later said right b4 it was
released - when they started getting flak about it, that they did not know
his skin color and that they only assumed that he was white.  that pissed me
off even more.  2 me they were saying that they just assume that all heroic
figures are White!  damn.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Tracey de Morsella 
wrote:




From: Tracey de Morsella 
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 5:58 PM





This was posted when it happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the
morning when I posted it and did not put a subject on it.  I have a feeling
her role will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be
downplayed and not Black.  I hope I am wrong

 

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!

 







Martin, 

you are right.  we did this when it first broke.  thin Amy slept on this
one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:


From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM


I thought we did post this.





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Subject : [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
>From : "Amy" 
To : 


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The
Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of
the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia
pirates. 

"It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in
for a long while," Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank
of admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to
command a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the
Army's Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

"Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0
she told the Navy Times. "We are quite capable of staying out here and doing
this mission." 

Howard's task force operates with U.S. warships deployed to the eastern
Africa area as well as those sent from allied nations. Before her assignment
to the strike group, Howard was the senior military assistant to the
Secretary of the Navy. 













http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

[Martin Baxter]

Fortunately, I don't have to tune in for "Supernatural" myself. A friend DVRs 
it, and I watch it with him and his wife when I visit them on Saturdays.





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 From : "B. Smith" 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Well I needed my weekly Supernatural fix and I liked Reaper as well. Plus I 
watched Everybody Hates Chris and The Game. I also liked their shortlived show 
Easy Money. Now that everything but Supernatural is gone they are sliding off 
my radar. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  wrote:
>
> NO, G. It's NOT "just you"... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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 From : gwashin...@...
> 
 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
In fact with the possible exception of Jericho (which I still think is one 
> of CBS' unregonized gems) it would make me very happy if it actually did 
> just go away. As it is now it's not only unwatchable it's now insulting. 
> But that's just me.
> 
> 
> -GTW
> 
> In a message dated 5/31/09 3:04:26 PM, dar...@... writes:
> 
> 
> > The CW ain't exactly GM. If it went away tomorrow I wonder f anybody 
> > would even notice. I haven't watched the channel in...
> > 
> > On May 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying 
> > > this $60/month internet bill, save myself the money.
> > >
> > > To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my 
> > > TV; BET, Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> **
> An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy 
> Steps! 
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> bcd=MayExcfooterNO62)
> 
> 
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Pontypool

[Aubrey Leatherwood]

Oh I think it would be LOVELY as a radio drama, which I think means that it was 
just well done in all aspects. On another, I have to say that the incessant 
chant "Sidnery Briar is alive." was just so creepy and beautiful and insanely 
relevant to what was happening in the film on both a conscious and subconsciuos 
level. Yep, glad you got to see it when and how you did.

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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pontypool








I saw it the same weekend Watchmen came out. Mchattie and the two female leads 
were all in attendance. There was a q&a, but Canuck sheepishness took over and 
no one actually asked any questions. In retrospect, I regret not letting Mr. 
Mchattie know that that was the best movie I'd seen him in that weekend. 


My wife pointed out that it would work very well as either a stage play or a 
radio drama, which is a little ironic. 


Justin

On 1-Jun-09, at 12:53 PM, "B. Smith"  wrote:






I really want to see it but none of our theaters is showing it and I don't have 
the IFC pay channel.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole  
wrote:
>
> We just watched this movie. Have to admit I loved it. Has anyone else seen 
> it? The entire movie takes place in a remote Ontario radio station, with a 
> charismatic Stephen McHattie playing the grizzled radio host trying to report 
> on a bizarre phenomenon outside without any anchor in reality or context in 
> which to put the strange things he's hearing through the phone in lines, from 
> other radio stations, and even his reporters in the field. There were many 
> awesome quotes but here is my favorite:
> 
> "That was our own Ken Looney interviewing a screaming baby coming from Mary 
> Gulf's eldest son's dying gasp. That was a little baby. A tiny little baby."
> 
> Oh yeah... and there's Honey the missing cat.
>  
> Grayson Reyes-Cole 
> http://www.graysonreyescole.com 
> Facebook
> Bright Star 
> The Builder
>


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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Pontypool

[Justin Mohareb]

I saw it the same weekend Watchmen came out. Mchattie and the two  
female leads were all in attendance. There was a q&a, but Canuck  
sheepishness took over and no one actually asked any questions. In  
retrospect, I regret not letting Mr. Mchattie know that that was the  
best movie I'd seen him in that weekend.


My wife pointed out that it would work very well as either a stage  
play or a radio drama, which is a little ironic.


Justin

On 1-Jun-09, at 12:53 PM, "B. Smith"  wrote:




I really want to see it but none of our theaters is showing it and I  
don't have the IFC pay channel.


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole  
 wrote:

>
> We just watched this movie. Have to admit I loved it. Has anyone  
else seen it? The entire movie takes place in a remote Ontario radio  
station, with a charismatic Stephen McHattie playing the grizzled  
radio host trying to report on a bizarre phenomenon outside without  
any anchor in reality or context in which to put the strange things  
he's hearing through the phone in lines, from other radio stations,  
and even his reporters in the field. There were many awesome quotes  
but here is my favorite:

>
> "That was our own Ken Looney interviewing a screaming baby coming  
from Mary Gulf's eldest son's dying gasp. That was a little baby. A  
tiny little baby."

>
> Oh yeah... and there's Honey the missing cat.
>
> Grayson Reyes-Cole
> http://www.graysonreyescole.com
> Facebook
> Bright Star
> The Builder
>


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[RE][scifinoir2] Potty Break: RunPee.com lets you know when to go

[Martin Baxter]

rave... ever so diligent in his caring for the public. (filing that away for 
future need) Three cheers!

Huzzah!

Huzzah!

HUZZAH!





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 From : "ravenadal" 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


(So at the 50-minute mark in "Star Trek," when Capt. Pike leaves the bridge, 
you might want to leave for the john.)

~rave!

Strategies for movie bathroom breaks

by Mark Milian - Jun. 1, 2009 12:00 AM

Los Angeles Times

How many times have you been sitting in a movie theater and felt that familiar 
pressure in your bladder, but didn't want to leave because you had a feeling 
that the awesome battle scene you'd heard so much about was coming up soon?

Probably not that often, right? It's a problem that was almost too ridiculous 
to be solved. But thanks to the wonders of the Internet, somebody did.

RunPee (www.runpee.com) shows a list of the boring parts in many of the popular 
movies in theaters and tells you how far into the flick they appear. It even 
gives you a synopsis of the part you'd be missing.

So at the 50-minute mark in "Star Trek," when Capt. Pike leaves the bridge, you 
might want to leave for the john. If that large Coke hasn't hit you yet, you 
could wait another 10 minutes and pop out when Spock has his tender moment.

The site also can be a sort of movie critic for especially bad flicks. For 
example, RunPee recommends you take a permanent bathroom break 30 minutes into 
"Hannah Montana: The Movie."

"Go home right after the previews," the description reads. "You won't miss 
anything."

Because the site is based on the Flash programming language, it won't work on 
many cell phones, which hinders its on-the-go utility. You could either print 
it out before you leave for the movies or wait for the iPhone app, which should 
be out by the end of next month.

Think you can hold it till then?






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

[B. Smith]

Well I needed my weekly Supernatural fix and I liked Reaper as well. Plus I 
watched Everybody Hates Chris and The Game. I also liked their shortlived show 
Easy Money. Now that everything but Supernatural is gone they are sliding off 
my radar. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter"  wrote:
>
> NO, G. It's NOT "just you"... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 19:48:29 EDT
> 
 From : gwashin...@...
> 
 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
In fact with the possible exception of Jericho (which I still think is one 
> of CBS' unregonized gems) it would make me very happy if it actually did 
> just go away. As it is now it's not only unwatchable it's now insulting. 
> But that's just me.
> 
> 
> -GTW
> 
> In a message dated 5/31/09 3:04:26 PM, dar...@... writes:
> 
> 
> > The CW ain't exactly GM. If it went away tomorrow I wonder f anybody 
> > would even notice. I haven't watched the channel in...
> > 
> > On May 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying 
> > > this $60/month internet bill, save myself the money.
> > >
> > > To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my 
> > > TV; BET, Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Pontypool

[B. Smith]

I really want to see it but none of our theaters is showing it and I don't have 
the IFC pay channel.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Grayson Reyes-Cole  
wrote:
>
> We just watched this movie. Have to admit I loved it. Has anyone else seen 
> it? The entire movie takes place in a remote Ontario radio station, with a 
> charismatic Stephen McHattie playing the grizzled radio host trying to report 
> on a bizarre phenomenon outside without any anchor in reality or context in 
> which to put the strange things he's hearing through the phone in lines, from 
> other radio stations, and even his reporters in the field. There were 
> many awesome quotes but here is my favorite:
> 
> "That was our own Ken Looney interviewing a screaming baby coming from Mary 
> Gulf's eldest son's dying gasp. That was a little baby. A tiny little baby."
> 
> Oh yeah... and there's Honey the missing cat.
>  
> Grayson Reyes-Cole 
> http://www.graysonreyescole.com 
> Facebook
> Bright Star 
> The Builder
>

[scifinoir2] Potty Break: RunPee.com lets you know when to go

[ravenadal]

(So at the 50-minute mark in "Star Trek," when Capt. Pike leaves the bridge, 
you might want to leave for the john.)

~rave!

Strategies for movie bathroom breaks

by Mark Milian - Jun. 1, 2009 12:00 AM

Los Angeles Times

How many times have you been sitting in a movie theater and felt that familiar 
pressure in your bladder, but didn't want to leave because you had a feeling 
that the awesome battle scene you'd heard so much about was coming up soon?

Probably not that often, right? It's a problem that was almost too ridiculous 
to be solved. But thanks to the wonders of the Internet, somebody did.

RunPee (www.runpee.com) shows a list of the boring parts in many of the popular 
movies in theaters and tells you how far into the flick they appear. It even 
gives you a synopsis of the part you'd be missing.

So at the 50-minute mark in "Star Trek," when Capt. Pike leaves the bridge, you 
might want to leave for the john. If that large Coke hasn't hit you yet, you 
could wait another 10 minutes and pop out when Spock has his tender moment.

The site also can be a sort of movie critic for especially bad flicks. For 
example, RunPee recommends you take a permanent bathroom break 30 minutes into 
"Hannah Montana: The Movie."

"Go home right after the previews," the description reads. "You won't miss 
anything."

Because the site is based on the Flash programming language, it won't work on 
many cell phones, which hinders its on-the-go utility. You could either print 
it out before you leave for the movies or wait for the iPhone app, which should 
be out by the end of next month.

Think you can hold it till then?

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[scifinoir2] Re: Topic: What is the worst idea for a sequel?

[ravenadal]

A post-apocalyptic tale based on a novella by Harlan Ellison. A boy 
communicates telepathically with his dog as they scavenge for food and sex.  
Come on! If that doesn't scream sequel, I don't know what does! "A Boy and his 
Dog" (AKA "Psycho Boy and his Killer Dog") begs to be remade!  Especially if 
they can convene a cast as stellar as the first one:  Don ("Miami Vice") 
Johnson as "the boy," Tim McIntire as the voice of "Blood, the dog," and Jason 
Robards as "the Beaver," uh, I mean as "Lou Craddock."  And it positively MUST 
get greenlit if they find a director as good as the incomparable L.Q. Jones.

Vic: We coulda used her three more times! 
Blood: Ah, war is hell. 
--
Blood: A cautous young fellow named Lodge / Had seatbelts installed in his 
Dodge. / When his date was strapped in / He committed a sin / Without even 
leaving the garage. That's clever, isn't it? 

~rave!


--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Charles Sheehan-Miles  wrote:
>
> A Boy and His Dog Return?
> 
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > What would be the worst idea for a tv or movie sequel?
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Topic: What is the worst idea for a sequel?

[Charles Sheehan-Miles]

A Boy and His Dog Return?

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> What would be the worst idea for a tv or movie sequel?
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Movies set for remake

[Martin Baxter]

(standing ovation)





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 Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Movies set for remake

 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 20:55:39 + (UTC)

 From : Keith Johnson 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


You know what? I'd prefer a return of the great cartoon "The Real Ghostbusters" 
over a movie franchise. The first movie was good, but I just don't know that I 
feel the magic and comedy of it can be recaptured, whether by the original cast 
or a new class. But the cartoon? Ah, there was a quality show! The first two or 
three seasons were incredible, with great stories, atmospheric music, and an 
enjoyable Slimer. This was before the animation style changed, Slimer went from 
uttering unintelligble sounds to talking like a child, and the title was 
changed to "Slimer and the Real ghostbusters". Those later kid-friendly seasons 
were crap... 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:10:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Movies set for remake 








Time travel with Robocop or Ghostbusters? 

I too would like to see remakes of both. I think that the original Robocop was 
very dark and sarcastic. The following sequels did not grasp it. There were 
also the tv show. Anyone remember that? 

Ghostbusters would be cool to see with the new CGI stuff. I can imagine a 200ft 
monster full of souls, newspapers, bicycles and anything else in the region. 
Then someone saying, "well I can say one good thing about this, at least the 
city is a little cleaner" :) Hmmm maybe I should write the script. :) 

Also another interesting film that would be good is the Blob. (adding to my 
grossout thoughts for the moment.) 


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:27 PM, < wlro...@aol.com > wrote: 






I may be the only person that feels this way but I would love to see another 
Ghostbusters movie and would love to see another Robocop. But I am sure it will 
be darker and lets all hope that time travel is not involved. 
--Lavender 




From: Mr. Worf 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:10 PM 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Movies set for remake 

This was taken from one of the classes I'm in. I don't have the source of the 
article. 

Movies set for remake 

"Robocop" 

If the Terminator can get tuned up for a revival, why not that other 1980s 
mechanical hero? After several fits and starts, MGM announced in March that a 
reboot of “Robocop” would be in theaters in 2010. Darren Aronofsky (“The 
Wrestler,” “Requiem for a Dream”) is directing the remake of Paul Verhoeven’s 
bloody movie about a Detroit cop who is gunned down but then put back on patrol 
as a cyborg with troubled soul 


"The Terminator" 

It’s not a remake, but filmmaker McG’s plan to revive the killer robot 
franchise with a new sequel next summer starring Christian Bale as John Connor 
has been circled by fans after a strong showing this past summer at Comic-Con 
International. “Terminator Salvation” is set in the future and shows the grim 
war between humans and Skynet with its murderous metallic armies. The plan is 
for a full trilogy … 


"When Worlds Collide" 

Steven Spielberg is one of the producers and Stephen Sommers (“The Mummy,” “Van 
Helsing”), infamous for his “give me more” attitude toward CGI effects, is 
directing. Like the original 1951 film produced by George Pal, this “Worlds,” 
due in theaters next year, is about the mad scramble to build a spaceship to 
save humanity before Earth is destroyed by a rogue planet entering its orbit. 
The problem comes when there aren’t enough seats for everybody on Earth. 

Gail says: The conflict is, of course, a remake of the old ethical dilemma used 
in every beginning ethics class since time began: If the lifeboat only has room 
for 12 people and there are 13 to be saved who gets left behind? 


"Ghostbusters" 

There’s talk of making a third installment in the hugely successful sci-fi 
comedy franchise and bringing back the original crew -- Bill Murray, Dan 
Aykroyd, Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson -- as well as some new-blood, 
second-generation busters. Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky, writers for “The 
Office,” are at work on the script for Columbia Pictures and Murray, in the 
past the most reluctant to return to the franchise, has said publicly that he’s 
open to the idea. There was talk of Seth Rogen being a likely cast addition but 
don’t bother calling him: “It sounds,” he said in October, “like the worst idea 
ever." 


"Logan's Run" 

This is a remake that can’t seem to find sanctuary even after a decade of 
attempts. A few years ago, Bryan Singer (“The X-Men,” “The Usual Suspects”) was 
all set to re-imagine the 1976 movie about a society where everyone submits to 
state-ordered execution parlors on their 30th birthday or gets hunted down by 
agents called Sandmen (the age was 21 in the 1967 novel by William F. Nolan and 
George Clayton Johnson that served as sour

Re: [scifinoir2] Topic: What is the worst idea for a sequel?

[Martin Baxter]

Keith, my friend... it's far too early in the morning to be screaming in 
horror... ;-D





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 Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Topic: What is the worst idea for a sequel?

 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 21:03:38 + (UTC)

 From : Keith Johnson 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Suggestions (of what NOT to do): 

* Cocoon - Return of the Return 
* Gilligan's Island - The Next Wave 
* Far Out Space Nuts - Lost in the Cosmos 
* Homeboys (Still) in Space 
* Jaws - The Revenge Continues 
* Bad Boys - The New Crew 
* 


- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:57:55 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Topic: What is the worst idea for a sequel? 








What would be the worst idea for a tv or movie sequel? 







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

[Martin Baxter]

Tracey, I hope not. Maybe having a President of color in the mix will help the 
filmmaker who undertakes the project get it right.





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 Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!

 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 14:58:15 -0700

 From : "Tracey de Morsella" 

 To : 


This was posted when it happened. Unfortunately, it was three in the morning 
when I posted it and did not put a subject on it. I have a feeling her role 
will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be downplayed and not 
Black. I hope I am wrong

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Augustus Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!

 







Martin, 

you are right. we did this when it first broke. thin Amy slept on this one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:


From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM


I thought we did post this.





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Subject : [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral 
Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
>From : "Amy" 
To : 


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The 
Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of the 
Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less 
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear 
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy 
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia 
pirates. 

“It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in for a 
long while,” Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank of 
admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to command a 
U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the 
Army’s Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain 
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

“Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0 she 
told the Navy Times. “We are quite capable of staying out here and doing this 
mission.” 

Howard’s task force operates with U.S. warships deployed to the eastern Africa 
area as well as those sent from allied nations. Before her assignment to the 
strike group, Howard was the senior military assistant to the Secretary of the 
Navy. 













http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds 












http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Teenage mutant ninja turtles?

[Martin Baxter]

That would make sense. Though it is a sad indictment on the system, shelving a 
movie project because its badly-conceived and executed marketing ploy failed. 
:-(





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 From : "Mr. Worf" 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Maybe they shelved it? I don't think that the video game or the short lived
tv show did very well. I remember seeing reviews of the video game. It was
pretty horrible.

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

> I haven't been able to find mention of the TMNT movie more recent than
> February, Mr Worf. And I heard about the He-Man movie last month.
>
>
>
>
>
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
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> Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Teenage mutant ninja turtles?
>
> Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 04:52:33 -0700
>
> From : "Mr. Worf" 
>
> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> I remember a few months back that they were talking about a new movie
> (maybe
> last summer?) then the video game came out. It was bad then I saw a couple
> of new cartoon versions. After that there was nothing.
>
> Also there was talk about a He-man movie too.
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
> > I heard it was in the pipe, as late as January. Nothing since. Not that I
> > need it, mind you. I'd rather have the animated stuff.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Date : Sat, 30 May 2009 23:58:47 -0700
> >
> > From : "Mr. Worf"
> >
> > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> > Wasn't there a new movie coming out?
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
>
>
>
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

[Martin Baxter]

NO, G. It's NOT "just you"... 





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 Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 19:48:29 EDT

 From : gwashin...@aol.com

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


In fact with the possible exception of Jericho (which I still think is one 
of CBS' unregonized gems) it would make me very happy if it actually did 
just go away. As it is now it's not only unwatchable it's now insulting. 
But that's just me.


-GTW

In a message dated 5/31/09 3:04:26 PM, dar...@darylelockhart.com writes:


> The CW ain't exactly GM. If it went away tomorrow I wonder f anybody 
> would even notice. I haven't watched the channel in...
> 
> On May 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
> 
> > Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying 
> > this $60/month internet bill, save myself the money.
> >
> > To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my 
> > TV; BET, Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said.
> 




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Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

[Martin Baxter]

Daryle, Smith launched it with a boom. Problem was, the show couldn't sustain 
the boom.





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 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 19:50:18 -0400

 From : Daryle Lockhart 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


THAT'S IT!! that's what I watched..the first episode of "Reaper", 
which was directed by Kevin Smith! I never watched the show again, 
and I never turned back to the CW again!


On May 31, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Martin Baxter wrote:

> Daryle, if it weren't for Reaper, I wouldn't know that it existed.
>
>
>
>
>
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
>
> Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black 
> People
>
> Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 14:58:02 -0400
>
> From : Daryle Lockhart 
>
> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> The CW ain't exactly GM. If it went away tomorrow I wonder f anybody
> would even notice. I haven't watched the channel in...
>
> On May 31, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>> Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying
>> this $60/month internet bill, save myself the money.
>>
>> To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my
>> TV; BET, Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:27 -
>>
>> From : "ravenadal"
>>
>> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>
>>
>> www.chicagotribune.com/features/arts/chi-0524-cwmay24,0,3868838.story
>>
>> chicagotribune.com
>>
>> TELEVISION
>>
>> CW bets on beautiful people
>>
>> By Maria Elena Fernandez
>>
>> Tribune Newspapers
>>
>> May 24, 2009
>>
>>
>> NEW YORK -- Last season was do-or-die for the CW network -- and it
>> did not die. The two scripted shows the young network needed the
>> most, the freshman "90210" and the sophomore "Gossip Girl,"
>> succeeded well enough to show that the CW can reach its target
>> audience of 18- to 34-year-old women as well as create a brand. And
>> veteran series "One Tree Hill," "Supernatural" and "America's Next
>> Top Model" continued to perform well.
>>
>> Next season, the network, which canceled its only comedies, "The
>> Game" and "Everybody Hates Chris," will air only dramas and reality
>> shows starring young, attractive people in alluring settings. The
>> network announced three new dramas for fall and one for midseason,
>> and will order new reality series for midseason, CW President Dawn
>> Ostroff said last week during a press conference after her
>> presentation to advertisers at Madison Square Garden.
>>
>> "Honestly, I think we've had a lot of disappointments in comedy,"
>> Ostroff said. "It's not to say that we couldn't find the right
>> comedy. But we did several shows, like 'Chris' and 'Aliens in
>> America,' which we were really proud of. We thought they were
>> different. They were about something. The writing was wonderful,
>> and we just couldn't make a go of it. So we decided to stick with
>> what's working for us now."
>>
>> Of the new series, the most highly anticipated is the remake of
>> "Melrose Place," the Fox hit and spinoff of the original "Beverly
>> Hills, 90210." Fans of the Heather Locklear-starring series will be
>> pleased about the return of Laura Leighton, as the resurrected
>> Sydney -- does anyone really die on TV anymore? -- and Thomas
>> Calabro as Michael Mancini. From the clip shown at Madison Square
>> Garden, there is a love triangle of sorts involving Sydney, Michael
>> and his son, and a death in the pool. "Melrose Place" will air
>> Tuesdays after "90210."
>>
>> Also on the fall roster is "The Beautiful Life," set in the high-
>> fashion modeling world and, yes, it's full of beautiful people.
>> "The Vampire Diaries" is centered on two vampire brothers vying for
>> the same woman.
>>
>> Ostroff also ordered a midseason drama, "Parental Discretion
>> Advised," which is set in Portland, Ore., and is the story of a 16-
>> year-old girl who has lived in the foster system her whole life and
>> finds her biological parents, who had her when they were in high
>> school.
>>
>> The CW probably will pick up another midseason drama, but Ostroff
>> said she wanted to wait and see how the season plays out before
>> making a decision. The network developed six drama pilots,
>> including a "Gossip Girl" spinoff starring Brittany Snow, which
>> aired as part of a "Gossip Girl" episode earlier this month and was
>> not received very well by fans. That series could make an
>> appearance next year, Ostroff said.
>>
>> Although it's been reported that "Smallville," which will air
>> Fridays, will enter its ninth and final season next year, Ostroff
>> said a final decision had not been made, and she hoped the show
>> could continue.
>>
>> Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
>
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.co

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[Martin Baxter]

Say it again, Brother Fate!





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 Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!

 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 19:52:08 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


again, this is y i am not going 2 go and pay 4 "avatar"  casting ang as a white 
guy?  come on.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Reece Jennings  wrote:

From: Reece Jennings 
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 10:20 PM











 
 
 


 
 



"Only when 
lions have historians will hunters 
cease being heroes" -  African 
Proverb
 
This has 
always been my favorite quote.  We need to represent ourselves.  We 
have some that are doing it.
It's a great 
start!
 
 



From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
[mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: 
Sunday, May 31, 2009 7:10 PM
To: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY 
DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama 
Captain! !!




This touches on a pet peeve of mine about hollywood. When they are writing, 
or casting films they often list white characters. This may or may not be 
intentional, but the end result if you multiply that by how many different 
commercials, movies etc are cast you see an imbalance in the number of white vs 
any other race. This is really evident when casting lead roles. 


On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Augustus Augustus  
wrote:


 


 
 
 
 Trace,

that is the exact reason that i have yet to 
 watch and never will watch world trade center.  the nick cage movie 
 about the firefighters.  there was a Marine (and u know how i feel 
 about my beloved United States Marine Corps - Ohh Rah!) who was pivotal 
 in helping the fire fighters and getting the people organized in the 
 rescue effort.  he was a Black Marine and in the movie they used a 
 white guy.  they producers later said right b4 it was released - 
 when they started getting flak about it, that they did not know his skin 
 color and that they only assumed that he was white.  that pissed me 
 off even more.  2 me they were saying that they just assume that 
 all heroic figures are White!  damn.

Fate.

--- On 
 Sun, 5/31/09, Tracey de Morsella  
 wrote:

 
From: 
 Tracey de Morsella 
Subject: 
 RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
 Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Sunday, May 
 31, 2009, 5:58 PM


 
 
 
 
 
 This was 
 posted when it happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the 
 morning when I posted it and did not put a subject on it.  I have 
 a feeling her role will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it 
 will be downplayed and not Black.  I hope I am wrong
  
 
 
 From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On 
Behalf Of 
 Augustus Augustus
 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 
 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T 
 WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama 
 Captain! !!
 
  
 



 
 
 
 
 
 Martin, 

you are right.  we did this when it 
 first broke.  thin Amy slept on this 
 one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter 
  wrote:
 
 
From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: 
 WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The 
 Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
To: scifino...@yahoogro 
 ups.com
 
 
 
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 
AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I thought we did post 
 this.




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Subject : [scifinoir2] Fw: 
 WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral 
 Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
Date : 
 Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
>From : "Amy" 
 
To : 
 


ahar...@earthlink. 
 net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE 
 SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk 
 Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! 
 I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black 
 woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 
 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 
 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 
 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the 
 kidnapping and rescue of the Maersk Alabama Captain 
 Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less 
 well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a 
 black woman, Rear Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard 
 received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's 
 counter-piracy task force just three days before the 
 Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia pirates. 
 

“It 's probably one of the most exciting missions 
 the Navy has been on in for a long while,” Howard told the 
 Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. 
 Naval Academy class to reach the ran

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[Martin Baxter]

(standing ovation)





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Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!

 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 22:20:28 -0400

 From : "Reece Jennings" 

 To : 


"Only when lions have historians will hunters cease being heroes" - African
Proverb
 
This has always been my favorite quote. We need to represent ourselves. We
have some that are doing it.
It's a great start!
 
 

 _ 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 7:10 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!





This touches on a pet peeve of mine about hollywood. When they are writing,
or casting films they often list white characters. This may or may not be
intentional, but the end result if you multiply that by how many different
commercials, movies etc are cast you see an imbalance in the number of white
vs any other race. This is really evident when casting lead roles. 



On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Augustus Augustus 
 yahoo.com> wrote:




Trace,

that is the exact reason that i have yet to watch and never will watch world
trade center. the nick cage movie about the firefighters. there was a
Marine (and u know how i feel about my beloved United States Marine Corps -
Ohh Rah!) who was pivotal in helping the fire fighters and getting the
people organized in the rescue effort. he was a Black Marine and in the
movie they used a white guy. they producers later said right b4 it was
released - when they started getting flak about it, that they did not know
his skin color and that they only assumed that he was white. that pissed me
off even more. 2 me they were saying that they just assume that all heroic
figures are White! damn.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Tracey de Morsella 
 aladvantage.com> wrote:




From: Tracey de Morsella 
 aladvantage.com>
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifino...@yahoogro  ups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 5:58 PM





This was posted when it happened. Unfortunately, it was three in the
morning when I posted it and did not put a subject on it. I have a feeling
her role will not be featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be
downplayed and not Black. I hope I am wrong

 

From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Augustus Augustus 


Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM

To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!



 







Martin, 

you are right. we did this when it first broke. thin Amy slept on this
one.

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:


From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!

To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 

Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM

I thought we did post this.





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Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !!
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 -0400
>From : "Amy" 
To : 


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The
Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the kidnapping and rescue of
the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips have been widely reported, less
well-known is that ship which saved him was commanded by a black woman, Rear
Admiral Michelle Howard. 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's counter-piracy
task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama was attacked by Somalia
pirates. 

"It 's probably one of the most exciting missions the Navy has been on in
for a long while," Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank
of admiral. In 1999, Howard became the f irst African-American woman to
command a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the
Army's Command and General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, Combined Task Force 151, will remain
deterring and disrupting piracy off the Horn of Africa. 

"Right now, the policy is, fight piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0
she told the Navy Times. "We are quite capable of staying out here and doing
this mission." 

Howard's task force operates wit

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS???? - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!!!!!

[Martin Baxter]

Fate, that would really freak me out, looking at a female officer and calling 
her "sir".





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Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!

 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 19:54:47 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Reece,

actually we call all flag officers "sir".  regardless of sex, unless they 
specify it.  being a Marine i have had 2 report 2 female commanders, captains, 
and admirals and called them sir.  only  a handful will correct u on it.  and 
then only if u r directly in their command.  

Fate.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Reece Jennings  wrote:

From: Reece Jennings 
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain!!!
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 10:18 PM











 
 
 


 
 


And 
probably not female, either!
 
I just 
watched a short special on Black Marines in WWII, and especially Okinawa.  
There were NO 
photos 
of them, and they were left out of the latest movies, too.  Ironically, a 
white woman who 
believes 
in honoring ALL war veterans dug out tons of pictures from the National 
Archives 
in DC.
 
So, if 
there HAS been any progress, they will portray this amazing admiral just as she 
is, warts and
all.  Because being human and overcoming a lot of what that 
means is what makes sheroes and heroes.
 
And 
maybe one day, as in BSG, ALL flag officers will be called 'sir'.  I 
thought that was the coolest!
 



From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
[mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tracey de 
Morsella
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:58 PM
To: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY 
DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama 
Captain! !!






This was posted 
when it happened.  Unfortunately, it was three in the morning when I posted 
it and did not put a subject on it.  I have a feeling her role will not be 
featured in the movie, and if it is, it will be downplayed and not Black.  
I hope I am wrong 
 


From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
[mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Augustus 
Augustus
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:47 PM
To: 
scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY 
DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama 
Captain! !! 
 



 

 
 
 
 Martin, 

you are right.  we did this when 
 it first broke.  thin Amy slept on this one.

Fate.

--- 
 On Sun, 5/31/09, Martin Baxter 
  wrote: 
 
From: Martin Baxter 
 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Fw: WHY 
 DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama 
 Captain! !!
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: 
 Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:27 AM 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I thought we did 
 post this.



 
 -[ Received 
 Mail Content ]--
Subject : [scifinoir2] Fw: WHY 
 DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman Admiral Rescuced The Maersk 
 Alabama Captain! !!
Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 07:18:04 
 -0400
>From : "Amy" 
To 
 : 
 ups.com>


ahar...@earthlink. net 
What a story! 
 

Subject: Fw: WHY DIDN'T WE SEE THIS - A Black Woman 
 Admiral Rescuced The Maersk Alabama Captain! !! 
 




Darned media!! I did not know this!!! 
 

Ship commanded by Black woman admiral rescued Maersk Alabama 
 captain 

20 

By James Wright 
AFRO Staff Writer 
 



Admiral Michelle Howard (Courtesy Photo) 
 

(April 26, 2009) - While the facts surrounding the 
 kidnapping and rescue of the Maersk Alabama Captain Richard Phillips 
 have been widely reported, less well-known is that ship which saved 
 him was commanded by a black woman, Rear Admiral Michelle Howard. 
 

Howard received the assignment of leading 20 the U.S. Navy's 
 counter-piracy task force just three days before the Maersk Alabama 
 was attacked by Somalia pirates. 

“It 's probably one of the 
 most exciting missions the Navy has been on in for a long while,” 
 Howard told the Navy Times. 

Howard is the first of her 1982 
 U.S. Naval Academy class to reach the rank of admiral. In 1999, 
 Howard became the f irst African-American woman to command a U.S. 
 Navy ship, the USS Rushmore. 

She holds a masters degree in 
 Military Science Arts and Sci ences from the Army’s Command and 
 General Staff College . 

Howard said the mission of her unit, 
 Combined Task Force 151, will remain deterring and disrupting piracy 
 off the Horn of Africa. 

“Right now, the policy is, fight 
 piracy, and I am all about that policy,8 0 she told the Navy Times. 
 “We are quite capable of staying out here and doing this mission.” 
 

Howard’s task force operates with U.S. warships deployed to 
 the eastern Africa area as well as those sent from allied nations. 
 Before her assignment to the strike group, Howard was the senior 
 military assistant to the Secretary of the Navy. 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

[Martin Baxter]

AAUUUGH!

The WORD! The V-WORD! It burns my eyes! My very 
SOUL

(deep rbeathing, re-gathering centers...)

Okay, a story I heard once, regarding the reason for UPN's existence. Paramount 
was reportedly ticked off at the short shrift that TNG and DSNine had been 
given in syndication. (Here in Atlanta, the station that carried it, Channel 
46, aired the wrong show *twice* ebfore finally ariring the final ep.) To that 
end, Paramount decided that they wanted all of Trek under one umbrella. To that 
end, they whipped up UPN, and threw out the V-Word Series as its first Trek 
offering. But, and I can't find any corroboration for this part, Paramouunt 
could'nt get TOS back from Skiffy. Don't ask me how, folks. I just pass this 
on...





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 Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 20:14:03 -0700 (PDT)

 From : Augustus Augustus 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Worf,

when STTNG was on, UPN did not exist.  UPN was the network the 
launchedwait for 
it.
 Voyager!

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Mr. Worf  wrote:

From: Mr. Worf 
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:53 PM











 
 
 


 
 UPN was the only network that aired STNG when it was on. 

I think the CW and whatever that other new network is called lack direction and 
any true programming plans. I remember when they started the network. It was 4 
or 5 months before their website was finished. Not well planned. 


On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:05 AM, ravenadal  wrote:

CW is the unholy alliance between former netlets UPN (Unfortunate Programming 
for Negroes)and the WB (the Wayans Brothers Network).



~(no)rave!



--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, "Reece Jennings"  wrote:

>

> What is CW?

>

>   _

>

> From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogro ups.com] On

> Behalf Of Martin Baxter

> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 11:41 AM

> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

> Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Well, DAY-UM... if i don't exist, then I might as well stop paying this

> $60/month internet bill, save myself the money.

>

> To date, there are three channels I've removed from memory on my TV; BET,

> Golf Channel and CW. 'Nuff said.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -[ Received Mail Content ]--

> Subject : [scifinoir2] The CW: Ain't No Beautiful Black People

> Date : Sun, 31 May 2009 12:48:27 -

> From : "ravenadal" 

> To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

>

> www.chicagotribune. com/features/ arts/chi- 0524-cwmay24, 0,3868838. story

>

> chicagotribune. com

>

> TELEVISION

>

> CW bets on beautiful people

>

> By Maria Elena Fernandez

>

> Tribune Newspapers

>

> May 24, 2009

>

>

> NEW YORK -- Last season was do-or-die for the CW network -- and it did not

> die. The two scripted shows the young network needed the most, the freshman

> "90210" and the sophomore "Gossip Girl," succeeded well enough to show that

> the CW can reach its target audience of 18- to 34-year-old women as well as

> create a brand. And veteran series "One Tree Hill," "Supernatural" and

> "America's Next Top Model" continued to perform well.

>

> Next season, the network, which canceled its only comedies, "The Game" and

> "Everybody Hates Chris," will air only dramas and reality shows starring

> young, attractive people in alluring settings. The network announced three

> new dramas for fall and one for midseason, and will order new reality series

> for midseason, CW President Dawn Ostroff said last week during a press

> conference after her presentation to advertisers at Madison Square Garden.

>

> "Honestly, I think we've had a lot of disappointments in comedy," Ostroff

> said. "It's not to say that we couldn't find the right comedy. But we did

> several shows, like 'Chris' and 'Aliens in America,' which we were really

> proud of. We thought they were different. They were about something. The

> writing was wonderful, and we just couldn't make a go of it. So we decided

> to stick with what's working for us now."

>

> Of the new series, the most highly anticipated is the remake of "Melrose

> Place," the Fox hit and spinoff of the original "Beverly Hills, 90210." Fans

> of the Heather Locklear-starring series will be pleased about the return of

> Laura Leighton, as the resurrected Sydney -- does anyone really die on TV

> anymore? -- and Thomas Calabro as Michael Mancini. From the clip shown at

> Madison Square Garden, there is a love triangle of sorts involving Sydney,

> Michael and his son, and a death in the pool. "Melrose Place" will air

> Tuesdays after "90210."

>

> Also on the fall roster is "The B

[RE][scifinoir2] Pontypool

[Martin Baxter]

Haven't seen it, but I do plan on it.





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We just watched this movie. Have to admit I loved it. Has anyone else seen it? 
The entire movie takes place in a remote Ontario radio station, with a 
charismatic Stephen McHattie playing the grizzled radio host trying to report 
on a bizarre phenomenon outside without any anchor in reality or context in 
which to put the strange things he's hearing through the phone in lines, from 
other radio stations, and even his reporters in the field. There were many 
awesome quotes but here is my favorite:

"That was our own Ken Looney interviewing a screaming baby coming from Mary 
Gulf's eldest son's dying gasp. That was a little baby. A tiny little baby."

Oh yeah... and there's Honey the missing cat.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Movies set for remake

[Martin Baxter]

Yes, keith, it was all out at about the same time. And the less you remember 
about that, the better off your psyche will be.





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I don't remember much of Extreme Ghostbusters. Think I watched a couple of eps, 
but didn't like it much. Was it out around the same time as that Starship 
Troopers CGI toon, the horrible Speed Racer sequel series, and the incredibly 
awful Highlander animated series? 

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The Extreme Ghostbusters show (which was a sequel to the "Real Ghostbusters") 
was also a good sereis which managed to capture the feel of both-while using 
younger characters mixed in with the older ones (first only Egon and Jennie 
with the others joining in later on). And while the show lasted 1-or-2 seasons 
(I think it lasted 11/2) it never became watered down. Infact it was pretty 
'edgy' at times for a saturday/evening toon show. 


-GTW 


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You know what? I'd prefer a return of the great cartoon "The Real Ghostbusters" 
over a movie franchise. The first movie was good, but I just don't know that I 
feel the magic and comedy of it can be recaptured, whether by the original cast 
or a new class. But the cartoon? Ah, there was a quality show! The first two or 
three seasons were incredible, with great stories, atmospheric music, and an 
enjoyable Slimer. This was before the animation style changed, Slimer went from 
uttering unintelligble sounds to talking like a child, and the title was 
changed to "Slimer and the Real ghostbusters". Those later kid-friendly seasons 
were crap... 






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Re: [scifinoir2] Deadliest Warrior: Shaka Zulu vs William Wallace

[Martin Baxter]

Would you believe me if I told you I nodded off on this *again*? I'm going to 
have to make myself check it out online.





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You are correct 

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I'm not even sure if some would be able to adapt, Keith. I really can't 
see a samurai or a ninja being able to use a broadsword, for example. The 
dynamics of handling and using a katana are completely different. 






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Right, and that was my point. I'd love to see a fantasy matchup with guys from 
different eras using the same weaponry. Of course, then you're really stepping 
out, as you'd have to basically extrapolate like crazy to predict how a guy 
from a land of brass weapons would learn to use a bow and arrow, or a steel 
broadsword or something. 
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One of Zulu's strengths was his battle tactics. I read somewhere that his skill 
on the battlefield was as good as any contemporary general of his time. If the 
Zulus were able to obtain more weapons (They had the guns but no one would sell 
them bullets.) they more than likely would have completely repelled the British 
Empire from that region of the world. 


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Martin Baxter < truthseeker...@lycos.com > 
wrote: 


That would be cool, Keith, to set the whole thing in a bracket system and play 
down toward a finale. 





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Yeah, I caught it, it was good. I really love this show. It gets a bit tough 
when they take people from different eras and match them: steel against brass, 
armour against bare skin, guns against swords. that was the case with Shaka: 
his "spit poison" and wooden shield couldn't compete with an eight (six?) foot 
long sword. What I'd really like to see is a normalized matchup in those cases. 
For example, that Scottish sword was actually used just as often to simply 
sweep the legs of horses to cut them off as it was to attack me. And, deadly or 
not, a sword that long simply can't be swung quickly, maneuvered with finesse, 
or wielded for too long. So, a Zulu warrior with Shaka's speed and agility, 
upgraded with weapons and armour contemporary to William Wallace, would no 
doubt win the day. 

I am hoping that they do matches later on that pit all the winners against each 
other... 

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So, anyone catch this week's DW? 

Instead of "Generic guy vs Generic guy", they set up William Wallace & 

Shaka Zulu. 

Once again we see, if you have a piece of equipment that will blind 
your opponent, Leave that at home! 

You can see the followup here: 

http://www.spike.com/video/aftermath-william/3178462 

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