Re: [scifinoir2] Alert. Alert. Alert.

[wlrouge]

Opps, I am late. 
--Lavender


From: Augustus Augustus 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:05 AM
To: Black SciFi 
Cc: Sci Fi 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Alert. Alert. Alert.




  BSG is running on SyFy right now.  that lovely series finale 'Daybreak 
Parts 1, 2 and 3 start at 1pm (EST).  i know u all are going 2 rewatch it 
right?  :-)

  Fate.
 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?

[Keith Johnson]

"Supervolt"? 

- Original Message - 
From: "B. Smith"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:43:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend? 






And he prefers to be called Supervolt. LOL! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> 
> wow, can't believe I did that! You're right: Black "Vulcan" was the character 
> in the Super Friends cartoon, while Black Lightning is the original. I 
> understand there was a copyright dispute with the character's creator, which 
> is why Vulcan was created for the 'toon. Black Vulcan has shown up on those 
> Harvey Birdman things, where he's some sort of superstud, I believe. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "B. Smith"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:28:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *cough*Black Lighning*cough* 
> 
> An easy mistake to make. LOL 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> > 
> > In addition to Steel, I can think of minor characters (at the time) that 
> > have been in his books, such as Black Racer (the paralyzed man who's one of 
> > the New Gods, the avatar of Death, but only mobile when this Aspect is upon 
> > him), Black Vulcan (who seems to be more prominent in recent JL books, and 
> > has a daughter with similar powers), and, as already mentioned, Vixen. 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Keith Johnson"  
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:16:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Steel is probably his most enduring friend of color. He was introduced 
> > during the "Reign of the Supermen" arc. This took place after Supes' 
> > "death" by doomsday. Several beings appeared bearing aspects of Superman's 
> > appearance/powers, and there was speculation that one of them might have 
> > been his reincarnation. This was aided by a storyline where a comatose 
> > Johnathan Kent met Clark in the spirit world, and tried to shepherd his 
> > soon away from the light of eternal rest that was beckoning him. one 
> > assumed his spirit came back into our world, but where? I was a bit 
> > disappointed that alone among the stand in heroes--the Cyborg Superman, 
> > Superboy, the Eradicator--Steel was the only one not considered to possibly 
> > be a reincarnation of Superman. He was known from the start as a separate 
> > being. 
> > 
> > Anyway, over the years, Steel has been Superman's friend, partner, fellow 
> > warrior, lieutenant, and confidant. With the possible exception of Emil 
> > Hamilton, he knows more about Kryptonian tech than anyone, helping superman 
> > upgrade the Fortress --once moving it to a "pocket" universe--retool his 
> > robot servants, fix his Kryptonian battle armour, etc. Steel has a young 
> > niece who's a genius, and who has likewise helped with the Kryptonian tech. 
> > A long running theme a few years back was how she upgraded the main robot 
> > helper in the Fortress to speak hip-hop slang. Little mechanized creature 
> > would say stuff like "yo, Supes, that bad guy is fierce. You better bring 
> > yo' A-game, dog!" Cute. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Justin Mohareb"  
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Just out of curiosity, can anyone remember a significant POC that 
> > Superman interacted with on a regular basis? 
> > 
> > Super or non. Seriously, is Metropolis just the least metrpolutan city 
> > in the world? 
> > 
> > Justin 
> > 
> 


 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?

[Justin Mohareb]

"We don't call Aquaman Whitefish!"

Justin

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:43 PM, B. Smith wrote:
>
>
> And he prefers to be called Supervolt. LOL!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>>
>> wow, can't believe I did that! You're right: Black "Vulcan" was the
>> character in the Super Friends cartoon, while Black Lightning is the
>> original. I understand there was a copyright dispute with the character's
>> creator, which is why Vulcan was created for the 'toon. Black Vulcan has
>> shown up on those Harvey Birdman things, where he's some sort of superstud,
>> I believe.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "B. Smith" 
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:28:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *cough*Black Lighning*cough*
>>
>> An easy mistake to make. LOL
>>
>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote:
>> >
>> > In addition to Steel, I can think of minor characters (at the time) that
>> > have been in his books, such as Black Racer (the paralyzed man who's one of
>> > the New Gods, the avatar of Death, but only mobile when this Aspect is upon
>> > him), Black Vulcan (who seems to be more prominent in recent JL books, and
>> > has a daughter with similar powers), and, as already mentioned, Vixen.
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Keith Johnson" 
>> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:16:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Steel is probably his most enduring friend of color. He was introduced
>> > during the "Reign of the Supermen" arc. This took place after Supes' 
>> > "death"
>> > by doomsday. Several beings appeared bearing aspects of Superman's
>> > appearance/powers, and there was speculation that one of them might have
>> > been his reincarnation. This was aided by a storyline where a comatose
>> > Johnathan Kent met Clark in the spirit world, and tried to shepherd his 
>> > soon
>> > away from the light of eternal rest that was beckoning him. one assumed his
>> > spirit came back into our world, but where? I was a bit disappointed that
>> > alone among the stand in heroes--the Cyborg Superman, Superboy, the
>> > Eradicator--Steel was the only one not considered to possibly be a
>> > reincarnation of Superman. He was known from the start as a separate being.
>> >
>> > Anyway, over the years, Steel has been Superman's friend, partner,
>> > fellow warrior, lieutenant, and confidant. With the possible exception of
>> > Emil Hamilton, he knows more about Kryptonian tech than anyone, helping
>> > superman upgrade the Fortress --once moving it to a "pocket"
>> > universe--retool his robot servants, fix his Kryptonian battle armour, etc.
>> > Steel has a young niece who's a genius, and who has likewise helped with 
>> > the
>> > Kryptonian tech. A long running theme a few years back was how she upgraded
>> > the main robot helper in the Fortress to speak hip-hop slang. Little
>> > mechanized creature would say stuff like "yo, Supes, that bad guy is 
>> > fierce.
>> > You better bring yo' A-game, dog!" Cute.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Justin Mohareb" 
>> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Just out of curiosity, can anyone remember a significant POC that
>> > Superman interacted with on a regular basis?
>> >
>> > Super or non. Seriously, is Metropolis just the least metrpolutan city
>> > in the world?
>> >
>> > Justin
>> >
>>
>
> 



-- 
Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy.
http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com

[scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?

[B. Smith]

And he prefers to be called Supervolt. LOL!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> wow, can't believe I did that! You're right: Black "Vulcan" was the character 
> in the Super Friends cartoon, while Black Lightning is the original. I 
> understand there was a copyright dispute with the character's creator, which 
> is why Vulcan was created for the 'toon. Black Vulcan has shown up on those 
> Harvey Birdman things, where he's some sort of superstud, I believe. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "B. Smith"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:28:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *cough*Black Lighning*cough* 
> 
> An easy mistake to make. LOL 
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> > 
> > In addition to Steel, I can think of minor characters (at the time) that 
> > have been in his books, such as Black Racer (the paralyzed man who's one of 
> > the New Gods, the avatar of Death, but only mobile when this Aspect is upon 
> > him), Black Vulcan (who seems to be more prominent in recent JL books, and 
> > has a daughter with similar powers), and, as already mentioned, Vixen. 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Keith Johnson"  
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:16:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Steel is probably his most enduring friend of color. He was introduced 
> > during the "Reign of the Supermen" arc. This took place after Supes' 
> > "death" by doomsday. Several beings appeared bearing aspects of Superman's 
> > appearance/powers, and there was speculation that one of them might have 
> > been his reincarnation. This was aided by a storyline where a comatose 
> > Johnathan Kent met Clark in the spirit world, and tried to shepherd his 
> > soon away from the light of eternal rest that was beckoning him. one 
> > assumed his spirit came back into our world, but where? I was a bit 
> > disappointed that alone among the stand in heroes--the Cyborg Superman, 
> > Superboy, the Eradicator--Steel was the only one not considered to possibly 
> > be a reincarnation of Superman. He was known from the start as a separate 
> > being. 
> > 
> > Anyway, over the years, Steel has been Superman's friend, partner, fellow 
> > warrior, lieutenant, and confidant. With the possible exception of Emil 
> > Hamilton, he knows more about Kryptonian tech than anyone, helping superman 
> > upgrade the Fortress --once moving it to a "pocket" universe--retool his 
> > robot servants, fix his Kryptonian battle armour, etc. Steel has a young 
> > niece who's a genius, and who has likewise helped with the Kryptonian tech. 
> > A long running theme a few years back was how she upgraded the main robot 
> > helper in the Fortress to speak hip-hop slang. Little mechanized creature 
> > would say stuff like "yo, Supes, that bad guy is fierce. You better bring 
> > yo' A-game, dog!" Cute. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Justin Mohareb"  
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Just out of curiosity, can anyone remember a significant POC that 
> > Superman interacted with on a regular basis? 
> > 
> > Super or non. Seriously, is Metropolis just the least metrpolutan city 
> > in the world? 
> > 
> > Justin 
> >
>

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading Obama conspiracy theories

[efhaynes]

What kills me is people take what these guys say as fact no matter the 
delivery. I was in Indiana yesterday on business and the fact that Beck was 
there doing a "Rally for America" was touted. I guess I let my facial 
expression slip because I was asked if liked Mr. Beck.

I said no and left it at that.

Gerald


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Martin Baxter" 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:34:12 
To: 
Cc: SciFi horror fantasy   mailing 
list; ; 
; ; ; 
SciFiNoir2 mailing list
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN 
spreading Obama conspiracy theories


Both of those clowns are scary because of the sh*t they trumpet all over the 
nation's carpets, but Dobbs, IMO, is a step worse, because he's *sane*. He 
monotones his bile, whereas Beck screams his. People are more apt to laugh at 
Beck, while they'll nod and say, "You know, he might have a point..." at Dobbs' 
words.




-[ Received Mail Content ]--
 Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading 
Obama conspiracy theories
 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:16:55 +
 From : efhay...@yahoo.com
 To : "SciFi horror fantasy mailing list" 
,gregorytow...@yahoo.com
 Cc : 
april_hay...@bellsouth.net,mmean...@yahoo.com,mmean...@gmail.com,"SciFiNoir2 
mailing list" 

The Lou Dobbs problem on CNN pales in comparison to Glenn Beck on Fox News. In 
the past two weeks, Beck has claimed that (1) Obama is trying to institute some 
back door reparations program with the programs he's trying to implement and 
(2) flat out called Obama a racist because of response to the Gates issue.

Gerald 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gregory Townes 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:20:56 
To: 
Cc: ; ; ; Cinthai Townes; ; vincent townes; Michelle Townes; junior white
Subject: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading Obama conspiracy 
theories














Hi, 
 CNN host Lou Dobbs is promoting debunked "birther" conspiracy 
theories by asserting that Obama needs to "produce a birth 
certificate"--even though he already has. 
I signed a petition with MoveOn and Media Matters calling on CNN to 
address their Lou Dobbs problem. Can you join me at the link below? 
http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/?r_by=16683-10341083-FxW_Npx&rc=mailto 
Thanks! 
References 
Visible links 
. http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/?r_by=16683-10341083-FxW_Npx&rc=mailto 
 


 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading Obama conspiracy theories

[Martin Baxter]

Both of those clowns are scary because of the sh*t they trumpet all over the 
nation's carpets, but Dobbs, IMO, is a step worse, because he's *sane*. He 
monotones his bile, whereas Beck screams his. People are more apt to laugh at 
Beck, while they'll nod and say, "You know, he might have a point..." at Dobbs' 
words.





-[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading 
Obama conspiracy theories

 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:16:55 +

 From : efhay...@yahoo.com

 To : "SciFi horror fantasy mailing list" 
,gregorytow...@yahoo.com

 Cc : 
april_hay...@bellsouth.net,mmean...@yahoo.com,mmean...@gmail.com,"SciFiNoir2 
mailing list" 


The Lou Dobbs problem on CNN pales in comparison to Glenn Beck on Fox News. In 
the past two weeks, Beck has claimed that (1) Obama is trying to institute some 
back door reparations program with the programs he's trying to implement and 
(2) flat out called Obama a racist because of response to the Gates issue.

Gerald 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gregory Townes 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:20:56 
To: 
Cc: ; ; ; Cinthai Townes; ; vincent townes; Michelle Townes; junior white
Subject: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading Obama conspiracy 
theories














Hi, 
 CNN host Lou Dobbs is promoting debunked "birther" conspiracy 
theories by asserting that Obama needs to "produce a birth 
certificate"--even though he already has. 
I signed a petition with MoveOn and Media Matters calling on CNN to 
address their Lou Dobbs problem. Can you join me at the link below? 
http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/?r_by=16683-10341083-FxW_Npx&rc=mailto 
Thanks! 
References 
Visible links 
. http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/?r_by=16683-10341083-FxW_Npx&rc=mailto 
 


 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?

[Keith Johnson]

wow, can't believe I did that! You're right: Black "Vulcan" was the character 
in the Super Friends cartoon, while Black Lightning is the original. I 
understand there was a copyright dispute with the character's creator, which is 
why Vulcan was created for the 'toon. Black Vulcan has shown up on those Harvey 
Birdman things, where he's some sort of superstud, I believe. 

- Original Message - 
From: "B. Smith"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:28:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend? 






*cough*Black Lighning*cough* 

An easy mistake to make. LOL 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> 
> In addition to Steel, I can think of minor characters (at the time) that have 
> been in his books, such as Black Racer (the paralyzed man who's one of the 
> New Gods, the avatar of Death, but only mobile when this Aspect is upon him), 
> Black Vulcan (who seems to be more prominent in recent JL books, and has a 
> daughter with similar powers), and, as already mentioned, Vixen. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Keith Johnson"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:16:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Steel is probably his most enduring friend of color. He was introduced during 
> the "Reign of the Supermen" arc. This took place after Supes' "death" by 
> doomsday. Several beings appeared bearing aspects of Superman's 
> appearance/powers, and there was speculation that one of them might have been 
> his reincarnation. This was aided by a storyline where a comatose Johnathan 
> Kent met Clark in the spirit world, and tried to shepherd his soon away from 
> the light of eternal rest that was beckoning him. one assumed his spirit came 
> back into our world, but where? I was a bit disappointed that alone among the 
> stand in heroes--the Cyborg Superman, Superboy, the Eradicator--Steel was the 
> only one not considered to possibly be a reincarnation of Superman. He was 
> known from the start as a separate being. 
> 
> Anyway, over the years, Steel has been Superman's friend, partner, fellow 
> warrior, lieutenant, and confidant. With the possible exception of Emil 
> Hamilton, he knows more about Kryptonian tech than anyone, helping superman 
> upgrade the Fortress --once moving it to a "pocket" universe--retool his 
> robot servants, fix his Kryptonian battle armour, etc. Steel has a young 
> niece who's a genius, and who has likewise helped with the Kryptonian tech. A 
> long running theme a few years back was how she upgraded the main robot 
> helper in the Fortress to speak hip-hop slang. Little mechanized creature 
> would say stuff like "yo, Supes, that bad guy is fierce. You better bring yo' 
> A-game, dog!" Cute. 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Justin Mohareb"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just out of curiosity, can anyone remember a significant POC that 
> Superman interacted with on a regular basis? 
> 
> Super or non. Seriously, is Metropolis just the least metrpolutan city 
> in the world? 
> 
> Justin 
> 


 

[scifinoir2] Re: [Black SciFi Horror Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading Obama conspiracy theories

[efhaynes]

The Lou Dobbs problem on CNN pales in comparison to Glenn Beck on Fox News. In 
the past two weeks, Beck has claimed that (1) Obama is trying to institute some 
back door reparations program with the programs he's trying to implement and 
(2) flat out called Obama a racist because of response to the Gates issue.

Gerald  
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Gregory Townes 

Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:20:56 
To: 
Cc: ; ; 
; Cinthai 
Townes; ; vincent 
townes; Michelle Townes; junior 
white
Subject: [Black SciFi Horror  Fantasy Club] Re: CNN spreading Obama conspiracy 
theories














Hi, 
 CNN host Lou Dobbs is promoting debunked "birther" conspiracy 
theories by asserting that Obama needs to "produce a birth 
certificate"--even though he already has. 
I signed a petition with MoveOn and Media Matters calling on CNN to 
address their Lou Dobbs problem. Can you join me at the link below? 
http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/?r_by=16683-10341083-FxW_Npx&rc=mailto 
Thanks! 
References 
Visible links 
. http://civ.moveon.org/stopdobbs/?r_by=16683-10341083-FxW_Npx&rc=mailto 
 


  

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?

[Justin Mohareb]

Plus, Batman was even on a team with Black Lightning.

Justin

On 2009-07-29, at 3:22 PM, Augustus Augustus   
wrote:


at least Batman was kool with Static.  even revealed his secret  
identity 2 him.


Fate.

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, B. Smith  wrote:

From: B. Smith 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 2:28 PM


*cough*Black Lighning*cough*

An easy mistake to make. LOL

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson  
 wrote:

>
> In addition to Steel, I can think of minor characters (at the  
time) that have been in his books, such as Black Racer (the  
paralyzed man who's one of the New Gods, the avatar of Death, but  
only mobile when this Aspect is upon him), Black Vulcan (who seems  
to be more prominent in recent JL books, and has a daughter with  
similar powers), and, as already mentioned, Vixen.

>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Keith Johnson" 
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:16:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Steel is probably his most enduring friend of color. He was  
introduced during the "Reign of the Supermen" arc. This took place  
after Supes' "death" by doomsday. Several beings appeared bearing  
aspects of Superman's appearance/powers, and there was speculation  
that one of them might have been his reincarnation. This was aided  
by a storyline where a comatose Johnathan Kent met Clark in the  
spirit world, and tried to shepherd his soon away from the light of  
eternal rest that was beckoning him. one assumed his spirit came  
back into our world, but where? I was a bit disappointed that alone  
among the stand in heroes--the Cyborg Superman, Superboy, the  
Eradicator-- Steel was the only one not considered to possibly be a  
reincarnation of Superman. He was known from the start as a separate  
being.

>
> Anyway, over the years, Steel has been Superman's friend, partner,  
fellow warrior, lieutenant, and confidant. With the possible  
exception of Emil Hamilton, he knows more about Kryptonian tech than  
anyone, helping superman upgrade the Fortress --once moving it to a  
"pocket" universe--retool his robot servants, fix his Kryptonian  
battle armour, etc. Steel has a young niece who's a genius, and who  
has likewise helped with the Kryptonian tech. A long running theme a  
few years back was how she upgraded the main robot helper in the  
Fortress to speak hip-hop slang. Little mechanized creature would  
say stuff like "yo, Supes, that bad guy is fierce. You better bring  
yo' A-game, dog!" Cute.

>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Justin Mohareb" 
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada  
Eastern

> Subject: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Just out of curiosity, can anyone remember a significant POC that
> Superman interacted with on a regular basis?
>
> Super or non. Seriously, is Metropolis just the least metrpolutan  
city

> in the world?
>
> Justin
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?

[Augustus Augustus]

at least Batman was kool with Static.  even revealed his secret identity 2 
him.  
 
Fate.

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, B. Smith  wrote:


From: B. Smith 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 2:28 PM


  



*cough*Black Lighning*cough*

An easy mistake to make. LOL

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> In addition to Steel, I can think of minor characters (at the time) that have 
> been in his books, such as Black Racer (the paralyzed man who's one of the 
> New Gods, the avatar of Death, but only mobile when this Aspect is upon him), 
> Black Vulcan (who seems to be more prominent in recent JL books, and has a 
> daughter with similar powers), and, as already mentioned, Vixen. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Keith Johnson"  
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:16:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Steel is probably his most enduring friend of color. He was introduced during 
> the "Reign of the Supermen" arc. This took place after Supes' "death" by 
> doomsday. Several beings appeared bearing aspects of Superman's 
> appearance/powers, and there was speculation that one of them might have been 
> his reincarnation. This was aided by a storyline where a comatose Johnathan 
> Kent met Clark in the spirit world, and tried to shepherd his soon away from 
> the light of eternal rest that was beckoning him. one assumed his spirit came 
> back into our world, but where? I was a bit disappointed that alone among the 
> stand in heroes--the Cyborg Superman, Superboy, the Eradicator-- Steel was 
> the only one not considered to possibly be a reincarnation of Superman. He 
> was known from the start as a separate being. 
> 
> Anyway, over the years, Steel has been Superman's friend, partner, fellow 
> warrior, lieutenant, and confidant. With the possible exception of Emil 
> Hamilton, he knows more about Kryptonian tech than anyone, helping superman 
> upgrade the Fortress --once moving it to a "pocket" universe--retool his 
> robot servants, fix his Kryptonian battle armour, etc. Steel has a young 
> niece who's a genius, and who has likewise helped with the Kryptonian tech. A 
> long running theme a few years back was how she upgraded the main robot 
> helper in the Fortress to speak hip-hop slang. Little mechanized creature 
> would say stuff like "yo, Supes, that bad guy is fierce. You better bring yo' 
> A-game, dog!" Cute. 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Justin Mohareb"  
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just out of curiosity, can anyone remember a significant POC that 
> Superman interacted with on a regular basis? 
> 
> Super or non. Seriously, is Metropolis just the least metrpolutan city 
> in the world? 
> 
> Justin
>

















  

[scifinoir2] Transparent aluminium is 'new state of matter'

[brent wodehouse]

http://www.physorg.com/news167925273.html

Transparent aluminium is 'new state of matter'

July 27th, 2009


(PhysOrg.com) -- Oxford scientists have created a transparent form of
aluminium by bombarding the metal with the world’s most powerful soft
X-ray laser. 'Transparent aluminium' previously only existed in science
fiction, featuring in the movie Star Trek IV, but the real material is an
exotic new state of matter with implications for planetary science and
nuclear fusion.


In this week’s Nature Physics an international team, led by Oxford
University scientists, report that a short pulse from the FLASH laser
‘knocked out’ a core electron from every aluminium atom in a sample
without disrupting the metal’s crystalline structure. This turned the
aluminium nearly invisible to extreme ultraviolet radiation.

''What we have created is a completely new state of matter nobody has seen
before,’ said Professor Justin Wark of Oxford University’s Department of
Physics, one of the authors of the paper. ‘Transparent aluminium is just
the start. The physical properties of the matter we are creating are
relevant to the conditions inside large planets, and we also hope that by
studying it we can gain a greater understanding of what is going on during
the creation of 'miniature stars' created by high-power laser implosions,
which may one day allow the power of nuclear fusion to be harnessed here
on Earth.’

The discovery was made possible with the development of a new source of
radiation that is ten billion times brighter than any synchrotron in the
world (such as the UK’s Diamond Light Source). The FLASH laser, based in
Hamburg, Germany, produces extremely brief pulses of soft X-ray light,
each of which is more powerful than the output of a power plant that
provides electricity to a whole city.

The Oxford team, along with their international colleagues, focused all
this power down into a spot with a diameter less than a twentieth of the
width of a human hair. At such high intensities the aluminium turned
transparent.

Whilst the invisible effect lasted for only an extremely brief period - an
estimated 40 femtoseconds - it demonstrates that such an exotic state of
matter can be created using very high power X-ray sources.

Professor Wark added: ‘What is particularly remarkable about our
experiment is that we have turned ordinary aluminium into this exotic new
material in a single step by using this very powerful laser. For a brief
period the sample looks and behaves in every way like a new form of
matter. In certain respects, the way it reacts is as though we had changed
every aluminium atom into silicon: it’s almost as surprising as finding
that you can turn lead into gold with light!’

The researchers believe that the new approach is an ideal way to create
and study such exotic states of matter and will lead to further work
relevant to areas as diverse as planetary science, astrophysics and
nuclear fusion power.

A report of the research, 'Turning solid aluminium transparent by intense
soft X-ray photoionization', is published in Nature Physics. The research
was carried out by an international team led by Oxford University
scientists Professor Justin Wark, Dr Bob Nagler, Dr Gianluca Gregori,
William Murphy, Sam Vinko and Thomas Whitcher.

Re: [scifinoir2] Did Anyone See Shatner

[brent wodehouse]

Classic Palin; incoherent free association, as rendered by Shatner as Beat
Poet. Awesome. :-)


"Bosco Bosco"  wrote:

>on Conan reciting the Palin speech? A career highlight fer sure.
>
>Google: Watch Palin get Shatnerized and be amazed. Garaunteed Hilarity
>
>Bosco

[scifinoir2] Re: Does Superman have a black friend?

[B. Smith]

*cough*Black Lighning*cough*

An easy mistake to make. LOL

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> In addition to Steel, I can think of minor characters (at the time) that have 
> been in his books, such as Black Racer (the paralyzed man who's one of the 
> New Gods, the avatar of Death, but only mobile when this Aspect is upon him), 
> Black Vulcan (who seems to be more prominent in recent JL books, and has a 
> daughter with similar powers), and, as already mentioned, Vixen. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Keith Johnson"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:16:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Steel is probably his most enduring friend of color. He was introduced during 
> the "Reign of the Supermen" arc. This took place after Supes' "death" by 
> doomsday. Several beings appeared bearing aspects of Superman's 
> appearance/powers, and there was speculation that one of them might have been 
> his reincarnation. This was aided by a storyline where a comatose Johnathan 
> Kent met Clark in the spirit world, and tried to shepherd his soon away from 
> the light of eternal rest that was beckoning him. one assumed his spirit came 
> back into our world, but where? I was a bit disappointed that alone among the 
> stand in heroes--the Cyborg Superman, Superboy, the Eradicator--Steel was the 
> only one not considered to possibly be a reincarnation of Superman. He was 
> known from the start as a separate being. 
> 
> Anyway, over the years, Steel has been Superman's friend, partner, fellow 
> warrior, lieutenant, and confidant. With the possible exception of Emil 
> Hamilton, he knows more about Kryptonian tech than anyone, helping superman 
> upgrade the Fortress --once moving it to a "pocket" universe--retool his 
> robot servants, fix his Kryptonian battle armour, etc. Steel has a young 
> niece who's a genius, and who has likewise helped with the Kryptonian tech. A 
> long running theme a few years back was how she upgraded the main robot 
> helper in the Fortress to speak hip-hop slang. Little mechanized creature 
> would say stuff like "yo, Supes, that bad guy is fierce. You better bring yo' 
> A-game, dog!" Cute. 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Justin Mohareb"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:52:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Does Superman have a black friend? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just out of curiosity, can anyone remember a significant POC that 
> Superman interacted with on a regular basis? 
> 
> Super or non. Seriously, is Metropolis just the least metrpolutan city 
> in the world? 
> 
> Justin
>

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who Arrested Him

[Keith Johnson]

Only twelve sons? That doesn't seem like a lot. I know people nowadays who have 
that many, especially some of my relatives from the country! What about 
daughters? 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Cc: tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com, "Daryle Lockhart" 
, afrikanm...@hotmail.com, "Albert Fields" 
, bettil...@msn.com, "CINQUE" 
, "Cleo" , 
dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, "GTW" 
, "Jeffrey Ballou" , "Kai 
Pettaway" , kalpub...@aol.com, "Kera" , 
kimbe...@luftworld.com, "Leroy Hughes" , "Logic" 
, "Martin Baxter" , "Marvalous" 
, "Michael Gordon" , "michael v w 
gordon" , "ravenadal" , 
rs...@yahoo.com, "Seku Brathwaite" , "Valery Jean" 
, "Wendell Theophilus Smith" 
, "Whitney J Evans" , 
williamsf...@speakeasy.net, "Zanfordino Anthony" , 
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:34:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop 
Who Arrested Him 






Keith, I just found this link saying that, according to legend, Niall 
had at least 12 sons. Other links say that as many as 8.3% of all men on the 
planet carry his DNA. 

http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2007/12/28/famous-dna-review-part-iii-niall-of-the-nine-hostages/
 

(apologies -- hotlinking again taking the day off) 






-[ Received Mail Content ]-- 
Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who 
Arrested Him 
Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:01:59 + (UTC) 
>From : Keith Johnson  
To : tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com 
Cc : " Lockhart, Daryle " , afrikanm...@hotmail.com, 
Albert Fields , bettil...@msn.com, CINQUE 
, Cleo , 
dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, GTW 
, Jeffrey Ballou , Kai Pettaway 
, kalpub...@aol.com, Kera , 
kimbe...@luftworld.com, Leroy Hughes , Logic 
, Martin Baxter , Marvalous 
, Michael Gordon , michael v w gordon 
, ravenadal , 
rs...@yahoo.com, Seku Brathwaite , Valery Jean 
, Wendell Theophilus Smith , Whitney J Evans , 
williamsf...@speakeasy.net, Zanfordino Anthony , 
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 

the article doesn't say how many offspring this Irish breeder supposedly 
sired... 

- Original Message - 
From: "Tracey de Morsella" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Cc: " Lockhart, Daryle " , afrikanm...@hotmail.com, "Albert Fields" , 
bettil...@msn.com, "CINQUE" , "Cleo" , dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, 
duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, "GTW" , "Jeffrey Ballou" , "Kai 
Pettaway" , kalpub...@aol.com, keithbjohn...@comcast.net, "Kera" , 
kimbe...@luftworld.com, "Leroy Hughes" , "Logic" , "Martin Baxter" , 
"Marvalous" , "Michael Gordon" , "michael v w gordon" , "ravenadal" , 
rs...@yahoo.com, "Seku Brathwaite" , "Valery Jean" , "Wendell Theophilus Smith" 
, "Whitney J Evans" , williams! f...@speakeasy.net, "Zanfordino Anthony" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:17:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who Arrested Him 




Henry Louis Gates Jr. , the black professor at the center of the racial story 
involving his arrest outside his Harvard University-owned house, has spoken 
proudly of his Irish roots . 

Strangely enough, he and the Cambridge, Mass., police officer who arrested him, 
Sgt. James Crowley , both trace their ancestry back to the legendary Niall of 
the Nine Hostages . 

In a PBS series on African-American ancestry that he hosted in 2008, Gates 
discovered his Irish roots when he found he was descended from an Irish 
immigrant and a slave girl. 

He went to Trinity College in Dublin to have his DNA analyzed. There he found 
that he shared 10 of the 11 DNA matches with offspring of Niall of the Nine 
Hostages, the fourth century warlord who created one of the dominant strains of 
Irish genealogy because he had so many offspring. 

onically, James Crowley , whose name in Gaelic means "hardy warrior," is also 
descended from the same line as Gates, having very close links to Niall of the 
Nine Hostages. 

So the two men who took part in what is now an infamous confrontation outside 
the Gates home near Harvard this month are actually related through common 
Irish lineage -- one of the more extraordinary aspects of the incident that has 
sparked worldwide headlines. 

Gates is one of many famous African-Americans with Irish heritage, including 
President Barack Obama and award-winning author Alice Walker. 

On the PBS series, Gates visits Trinity College to find his roots, and says to 
the genealogist, "Do I look like an Irishman to you? I'm here to find my roots. 
I've been looking all over Africa and I couldn't find anybody, so I ended up 
here. 

"I'm descended from a white man, he says. "A white man who slept with a black 
slave. And we know from the analysis of my DNA that ... goes back to Ireland. 
So maybe you can help me." 

When the genealogist tells him he do

[RE][scifinoir2] Spotlight on noir

[Martin Baxter]

Hawt DAY-um!

The name "Ian Rankin" in that guaranteed my participation.





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 Subject : [scifinoir2] Spotlight on noir

 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:30:08 -

 From : "ravenadal" 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Hard-boiled crime stories punch up the world of graphic novels

http://pheehah.notlong.com

Spotlight on noir
Hard-boiled crime stories punch up the world of graphic novels

By Geoff Boucher | Tribune Newspapers
 July 29, 2009

LOS ANGELES -- Even when the movies ended up bad -- and they usually did -- 
crime novelist Donald E. Westlake never had a problem taking Hollywood money 
for his ideas. But with his signature creation, the ruthless career criminal 
known simply as Parker, Westlake insisted that the names be changed to protect 
the guilty.

Westlake, who died at age 75 last New Year's Eve, saw seven movies made from 
his Parker novels (which were published under his pseudonym Richard Stark), but 
in each film the main character's name was changed; even when Lee Marvin, 
Robert Duvall or Mel Gibson was in the role, Westlake wouldn't entrust his 
favorite brand name to anyone else. That changed, though, in the final months 
of Westlake's life in an unexpected way that had nothing to do with Hollywood.

A Nova Scotia-based illustrator named Darwyn Cooke and a San Diego book editor 
named Scott Dunbier convinced the aging author that the ideal visual medium for 
his terse, bare-knuckled tales of mayhem was the graphic novel. And, after 
Westlake saw Cooke's spare and stylized artwork (between the vintage cool of 
"Mad Men" and the storytelling flair of Milton Caniff's "Steve Canyon" comic 
strips), he enthusiastically agreed. The result hit shelves this month: the 
graphic novel "The Hunter" (IDW Publishing, $24.99), a meticulously faithful 
adaptation of the 1962 novel of the same name.

The Cooke adaptation is already being hailed as a masterpiece by key 
tastemakers in the comics world, and last week it met the public as Cooke and 
Dunbier took it to Comic-Con International in San Diego, the massive 
pop-culture expo that is a sort of Cannes for capes or a Sundance for sci-fi. 
Cooke was on two panels, including a program titled "A Darker Shade of Ink: 
Crime and Noir in Comics."





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

[scifinoir2] Spotlight on noir

[ravenadal]

Hard-boiled crime stories punch up the world of graphic novels

http://pheehah.notlong.com

Spotlight on noir
Hard-boiled crime stories punch up the world of graphic novels

By Geoff Boucher | Tribune Newspapers
July 29, 2009

LOS ANGELES -- Even when the movies ended up bad -- and they usually did -- 
crime novelist Donald E. Westlake never had a problem taking Hollywood money 
for his ideas. But with his signature creation, the ruthless career criminal 
known simply as Parker, Westlake insisted that the names be changed to protect 
the guilty.

Westlake, who died at age 75 last New Year's Eve, saw seven movies made from 
his Parker novels (which were published under his pseudonym Richard Stark), but 
in each film the main character's name was changed; even when Lee Marvin, 
Robert Duvall or Mel Gibson was in the role, Westlake wouldn't entrust his 
favorite brand name to anyone else. That changed, though, in the final months 
of Westlake's life in an unexpected way that had nothing to do with Hollywood.

A Nova Scotia-based illustrator named Darwyn Cooke and a San Diego book editor 
named Scott Dunbier convinced the aging author that the ideal visual medium for 
his terse, bare-knuckled tales of mayhem was the graphic novel. And, after 
Westlake saw Cooke's spare and stylized artwork (between the vintage cool of 
"Mad Men" and the storytelling flair of Milton Caniff's "Steve Canyon" comic 
strips), he enthusiastically agreed. The result hit shelves this month: the 
graphic novel "The Hunter" (IDW Publishing, $24.99), a meticulously faithful 
adaptation of the 1962 novel of the same name.

The Cooke adaptation is already being hailed as a masterpiece by key 
tastemakers in the comics world, and last week it met the public as Cooke and 
Dunbier took it to Comic-Con International in San Diego, the massive 
pop-culture expo that is a sort of Cannes for capes or a Sundance for sci-fi. 
Cooke was on two panels, including a program titled "A Darker Shade of Ink: 
Crime and Noir in Comics."

[scifinoir2] Can blue M&Ms prevent paralysis?

[ravenadal]

http://xuule.notlong.com

Scientists can't yet explain why green M&Ms seem to hold seductive powers or 
why the brown-hued chocolates appear to bring bad luck.

But new research shows that an artificial dye that is chemically similar to the 
one used in blue M&Ms may hold promise in treating spinal cord injuries, 
according to a study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The compound, called Brilliant Blue G--was injected into the veins of rats 
within 15 minutes of receiving a paralyzing injury. The rats given the BBG 
solution temporarily turned blue and regained their ability to walk, albeit 
with a limp. 

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who Arrested Him

[Martin Baxter]

Keith, I just found this link saying that, according to legend, Niall had at 
least 12 sons. Other links say that as many as 8.3% of all men on the planet 
carry his DNA.

http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2007/12/28/famous-dna-review-part-iii-niall-of-the-nine-hostages/
 

(apologies -- hotlinking again taking the day off)





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 Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop 
Who Arrested Him

 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:01:59 + (UTC)

 From : Keith Johnson 

 To : tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com

 Cc : " Lockhart, Daryle " , 
afrikanm...@hotmail.com,Albert Fields , 
bettil...@msn.com, CINQUE , Cleo 
,   dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, 
duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net,   GTW , Jeffrey 
Ballou ,Kai Pettaway , 
kalpub...@aol.com,   Kera , kimbe...@luftworld.com,   
Leroy Hughes , Logic ,  Martin 
Baxter , Marvalous , Michael 
Gordon ,michael v w gordon 
,  ravenadal , 
rs...@yahoo.com,   Seku Brathwaite , Valery 
Jean ,   Wendell Theophilus Smith 
,Whitney J Evans 
,   williamsf...@speakeasy.net, Zanfordino 
Anthony ,scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


the article doesn't say how many offspring this Irish breeder supposedly 
sired... 

- Original Message - 
From: "Tracey de Morsella"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Cc: " Lockhart, Daryle " , afrikanm...@hotmail.com, "Albert Fields" , 
bettil...@msn.com, "CINQUE" , "Cleo" , dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, 
duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, "GTW" , "Jeffrey Ballou" , "Kai 
Pettaway" , kalpub...@aol.com, keithbjohn...@comcast.net, "Kera" , 
kimbe...@luftworld.com, "Leroy Hughes" , "Logic" , "Martin Baxter" , 
"Marvalous" , "Michael Gordon" , "michael v w gordon" , "ravenadal" , 
rs...@yahoo.com, "Seku Brathwaite" , "Valery Jean" , "Wendell Theophilus Smith" 
, "Whitney J Evans" , williamsf...@speakeasy.net, "Zanfordino Anthony"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:17:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who Arrested Him 




Henry Louis Gates Jr. , the black professor at the center of the racial story 
involving his arrest outside his Harvard University-owned house, has spoken 
proudly of his Irish roots . 

Strangely enough, he and the Cambridge, Mass., police officer who arrested him, 
Sgt. James Crowley , both trace their ancestry back to the legendary Niall of 
the Nine Hostages . 

In a PBS series on African-American ancestry that he hosted in 2008, Gates 
discovered his Irish roots when he found he was descended from an Irish 
immigrant and a slave girl. 

He went to Trinity College in Dublin to have his DNA analyzed. There he found 
that he shared 10 of the 11 DNA matches with offspring of Niall of the Nine 
Hostages, the fourth century warlord who created one of the dominant strains of 
Irish genealogy because he had so many offspring. 

onically, James Crowley , whose name in Gaelic means "hardy warrior," is also 
descended from the same line as Gates, having very close links to Niall of the 
Nine Hostages. 

So the two men who took part in what is now an infamous confrontation outside 
the Gates home near Harvard this month are actually related through common 
Irish lineage -- one of the more extraordinary aspects of the incident that has 
sparked worldwide headlines. 

Gates is one of many famous African-Americans with Irish heritage, including 
President Barack Obama and award-winning author Alice Walker. 

On the PBS series, Gates visits Trinity College to find his roots, and says to 
the genealogist, "Do I look like an Irishman to you? I'm here to find my roots. 
I've been looking all over Africa and I couldn't find anybody, so I ended up 
here. 

"I'm descended from a white man, he says. "A white man who slept with a black 
slave. And we know from the analysis of my DNA that ... goes back to Ireland. 
So maybe you can help me." 

When the genealogist tells him he does indeed have Irish links, Gates says, "I 
find this oddly moving. It is astonishing," he says, "that I have a kinship 
with someone (Niall of the Nine Hostages) dating back to the fourth century 
A.D." 

Millions of Irish Americans, especially those in New York, may be directly 
descended, like Gates, from Niall of the Nine Hostages, the most prolific 
warrior in Irish history. 

A team of geneticists at Trinity College led by professor Dan Bradley have 
discovered that as many as 3 million men worldwide may be descendents of the 
Irish warlord, who was the Irish "High King" at Tara, the ancient center of 
Ireland from A.D. 379 to A.D. 405. 

The story of Niall of the Nine Hostages is already the stuff of legend, which 
has been passed on to countless Irish schoolchildren over the years. 

The supposedly fearless leader battled the English, the Scots, the French and 
even the Romans, and struck fear into the heart of his enemies. His dynasty 
lasted for centuries, contin

[scifinoir2] Re: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who Arrested Him

[Keith Johnson]

the article doesn't say how many offspring this Irish breeder supposedly 
sired... 

- Original Message - 
From: "Tracey de Morsella"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Cc: " Lockhart, Daryle " , afrikanm...@hotmail.com, 
"Albert Fields" , bettil...@msn.com, "CINQUE" 
, "Cleo" , 
dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, "GTW" 
, "Jeffrey Ballou" , "Kai 
Pettaway" , kalpub...@aol.com, keithbjohn...@comcast.net, 
"Kera" , kimbe...@luftworld.com, "Leroy Hughes" 
, "Logic" , "Martin Baxter" 
, "Marvalous" , "Michael Gordon" 
, "michael v w gordon" , 
"ravenadal" , rs...@yahoo.com, "Seku Brathwaite" 
, "Valery Jean" , "Wendell 
Theophilus Smith" , "Whitney J Evans" 
, williamsf...@speakeasy.net, "Zanfordino 
Anthony"  
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:17:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who Arrested Him 




Henry Louis Gates Jr. , the black professor at the center of the racial story 
involving his arrest outside his Harvard University-owned house, has spoken 
proudly of his Irish roots . 

Strangely enough, he and the Cambridge, Mass., police officer who arrested him, 
Sgt. James Crowley , both trace their ancestry back to the legendary Niall of 
the Nine Hostages . 

In a PBS series on African-American ancestry that he hosted in 2008, Gates 
discovered his Irish roots when he found he was descended from an Irish 
immigrant and a slave girl. 

He went to Trinity College in Dublin to have his DNA analyzed. There he found 
that he shared 10 of the 11 DNA matches with offspring of Niall of the Nine 
Hostages, the fourth century warlord who created one of the dominant strains of 
Irish genealogy because he had so many offspring. 

onically, James Crowley , whose name in Gaelic means "hardy warrior," is also 
descended from the same line as Gates, having very close links to Niall of the 
Nine Hostages. 

So the two men who took part in what is now an infamous confrontation outside 
the Gates home near Harvard this month are actually related through common 
Irish lineage -- one of the more extraordinary aspects of the incident that has 
sparked worldwide headlines. 

Gates is one of many famous African-Americans with Irish heritage, including 
President Barack Obama and award-winning author Alice Walker. 

On the PBS series, Gates visits Trinity College to find his roots, and says to 
the genealogist, "Do I look like an Irishman to you? I'm here to find my roots. 
I've been looking all over Africa and I couldn't find anybody, so I ended up 
here. 

"I'm descended from a white man, he says. "A white man who slept with a black 
slave. And we know from the analysis of my DNA that ... goes back to Ireland. 
So maybe you can help me." 

When the genealogist tells him he does indeed have Irish links, Gates says, "I 
find this oddly moving. It is astonishing," he says, "that I have a kinship 
with someone (Niall of the Nine Hostages) dating back to the fourth century 
A.D." 

Millions of Irish Americans, especially those in New York, may be directly 
descended, like Gates, from Niall of the Nine Hostages, the most prolific 
warrior in Irish history. 

A team of geneticists at Trinity College led by professor Dan Bradley have 
discovered that as many as 3 million men worldwide may be descendents of the 
Irish warlord, who was the Irish "High King" at Tara, the ancient center of 
Ireland from A.D. 379 to A.D. 405. 

The story of Niall of the Nine Hostages is already the stuff of legend, which 
has been passed on to countless Irish schoolchildren over the years. 

The supposedly fearless leader battled the English, the Scots, the French and 
even the Romans, and struck fear into the heart of his enemies. His dynasty 
lasted for centuries, continuing up until the Elizabethan conquest of Ireland 
at the end of the 16th century. 

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8195564&page=1 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] The Time traveler's wife

[Augustus Augustus]

Martin,

i will follow your lead on this one!

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Martin Baxter  wrote:

From: Martin Baxter 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] The Time traveler's wife
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 7:42 AM






 





 Looks pretty faithful to the book.

IMO, that's not saying much. When I first picked it up, I pretty much knew that 
it wasn't going to be very science-fictiony. I didn't expect the saccharine 
levels to be near such lethal levels. Take it as a given that I won't be taking 
this one in.





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 Subject : [scifinoir2] The Time traveler's wife

 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:03:00 -0700

 From : "Mr. Worf" 

 To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com



I haven't seen much on this, but the movie based on the book The Time

Traveler's wife is coming out Aug.14th.



Trailer:

http://movies. yahoo.com/ movie/1809937231 /video/13945279/ 20090612/ 
147/13945279- 1000-flash- s.87323044- ,13945279- 100-flash- s.87323037- 
,13945279- 300-flash- s.87323038- ,13945279- 100-wmv-s. 87323030- ,13945279- 
300-wmv-s. 87323032- ,13945279- 700-wmv-s. 87323033- ,13945279- 1000-wmv- 
s.87323034- ,13945279- 700-flash- s.87323042- ,13945280- 2700-qtv- s.87323047- 
,13945280- 10300-qtv- s.87323050- ,13945280- 6800-qtv- s.87323049-



If that doesn't work for you, just go to Yahoo movies.

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http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds



 

  




 

















  

[RE][scifinoir2] Nimoy To Lead Historic Space Show

[Martin Baxter]

If I'm fortunate enough to have money when that date rolls around, I'll be 
there.





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 Subject : [scifinoir2] Nimoy To Lead Historic Space Show

 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:43:29 -0700

 From : "Tracey de Morsella" 

 To : 


28 July 2009 6:26 PM, PDT

Star Trek  star Leonard Nimoy
 is to narrate the first astronomic
orchestral concert on the lawn outside Hollywood landmark the Griffith
Observatory.

Film and TV's Mr. Spock will be backed by the 67-piece Symphony in the Glen
for the full moon performance of Arthur
 B. Rubinstein's Observations on 4
October. 

It's the first time in the observatory's 74-year history that a full
symphony orchestra has performed there. 

The observatory has provided the backdrop for a host of classic movies,
including Rebel without a Cause, The Terminator, Bowfinger and Transformers.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0900999/




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

[RE][scifinoir2] The Time traveler's wife

[Martin Baxter]

Looks pretty faithful to the book.

IMO, that's not saying much. When I first picked it up, I pretty much knew that 
it wasn't going to be very science-fictiony. I didn't expect the saccharine 
levels to be near such lethal levels. Take it as a given that I won't be taking 
this one in.





-[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : [scifinoir2] The Time traveler's wife

 Date : Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:03:00 -0700

 From : "Mr. Worf" 

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


I haven't seen much on this, but the movie based on the book The Time
Traveler's wife is coming out Aug.14th.

Trailer:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809937231/video/13945279/20090612/147/13945279-1000-flash-s.87323044-,13945279-100-flash-s.87323037-,13945279-300-flash-s.87323038-,13945279-100-wmv-s.87323030-,13945279-300-wmv-s.87323032-,13945279-700-wmv-s.87323033-,13945279-1000-wmv-s.87323034-,13945279-700-flash-s.87323042-,13945280-2700-qtv-s.87323047-,13945280-10300-qtv-s.87323050-,13945280-6800-qtv-s.87323049-

If that doesn't work for you, just go to Yahoo movies.
--



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds

[scifinoir2] The Time traveler's wife

[Mr. Worf]

I haven't seen much on this, but the movie based on the book The Time
Traveler's wife is coming out Aug.14th.

Trailer:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809937231/video/13945279/20090612/147/13945279-1000-flash-s.87323044-,13945279-100-flash-s.87323037-,13945279-300-flash-s.87323038-,13945279-100-wmv-s.87323030-,13945279-300-wmv-s.87323032-,13945279-700-wmv-s.87323033-,13945279-1000-wmv-s.87323034-,13945279-700-flash-s.87323042-,13945280-2700-qtv-s.87323047-,13945280-10300-qtv-s.87323050-,13945280-6800-qtv-s.87323049-

If that doesn't work for you, just go to Yahoo movies.
--

[scifinoir2] Harvard Prof Gates Is Half-Irish, Related to Cop Who Arrested Him

[Tracey de Morsella]

Henry Louis Gates Jr.
 , the black
professor at the center of the racial story involving his arrest outside his
Harvard University-owned house, has spoken proudly of his Irish roots
 . 

Strangely enough, he and the Cambridge, Mass., police officer who arrested
him, Sgt. James Crowley
 , both trace their
ancestry back to the legendary Niall of the Nine Hostages
 . 

In a PBS series on African-American ancestry that he hosted in 2008, Gates
discovered his Irish roots when he found he was descended from an Irish
immigrant and a slave girl. 

He went to Trinity College in Dublin to have his DNA analyzed. There he
found that he shared 10 of the 11 DNA matches with offspring of Niall of the
Nine Hostages, the fourth century warlord who created one of the dominant
strains of Irish genealogy because he had so many offspring. 

onically, James Crowley
 , whose name in Gaelic means "hardy warrior," is also descended from
the same line as Gates, having very close links to Niall of the Nine
Hostages. 

So the two men who took part in what is now an infamous confrontation
outside the Gates home
  near Harvard this month are
actually related through common Irish lineage -- one of the more
extraordinary aspects of the incident that has sparked worldwide headlines. 

Gates is one of many famous African-Americans 
with Irish heritage, including President Barack Obama and award-winning
author Alice Walker. 

On the PBS series, Gates visits Trinity College to find his roots, and says
to the genealogist, "Do I look like an Irishman to you? I'm here to find my
roots. I've been looking all over Africa and I couldn't find anybody, so I
ended up here. 

"I'm descended from a white man, he says. "A white man who slept with a
black slave. And we know from the analysis of my DNA that ... goes back to
Ireland. So maybe you can help me." 

When the genealogist tells him he does indeed have Irish links, Gates says,
"I find this oddly moving. It is astonishing," he says, "that I have a
kinship with someone (Niall of the Nine Hostages) dating back to the fourth
century A.D." 

Millions of Irish Americans, especially those in New York, may be directly
descended, like Gates, from Niall of the Nine Hostages, the most prolific
warrior in Irish history.

A team of geneticists at Trinity College led by professor Dan Bradley have
discovered that as many as 3 million men worldwide may be descendents of the
Irish warlord, who was the Irish "High King" at Tara, the ancient center of
Ireland from A.D. 379 to A.D. 405. 

The story of Niall of the Nine Hostages is already the stuff of legend,
which has been passed on to countless Irish schoolchildren over the years. 

The supposedly fearless leader battled the English, the Scots, the French
and even the Romans, and struck fear into the heart of his enemies. His
dynasty lasted for centuries, continuing up until the Elizabethan conquest
of Ireland at the end of the 16th century. 

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8195564&page=1

 

[scifinoir2] WHILE DVD SALES SLUMP, NETFLIX RENTALS SOAR

[Tracey de Morsella]

It could be the recession. Or it could be that DVD buyers are looking at
their collection and coming to the realization that few of those discs are
coming off their shelves after being viewed  once. Whatever the reason, DVD
sales are down 13.5 percent for the first half of the year, while rentals
are surging. Netflix said Thursday that its overall revenue had risen 21
percent to $408.5 million during the second quarter, while its net grew 22
percent to $34.4 million versus the comparable quarter a year ago. (Kiosk
operator Redbox has reported similar growth.) In a conference call with
reporters and investors on Thursday, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings noted that
half of his company's expenses could be attributed to postage costs. As
  reported by the Los Angeles Times, Hastings said he is
therefore trying to work out arrangements with the studios whereby newer
discs could be distributed to subscribers via the Internet. "The long-term
vision is that studios get two-thirds of our spending and we don't have to
ship as many DVDs," he said.

http://www.studiobriefing.net/studiobriefing.net/FILM_NEWS/Entries/2009/7/24
_WHILE_DVD_SALES_SLUMP%2C_NETFLIX_RENTALS_SOAR.html

 

[scifinoir2] Nimoy To Lead Historic Space Show

[Tracey de Morsella]

28 July 2009 6:26 PM, PDT

Star Trek   star Leonard Nimoy
  is to narrate the first astronomic
orchestral concert on the lawn outside Hollywood landmark the Griffith
Observatory.

Film and TV's Mr. Spock will be backed by the 67-piece Symphony in the Glen
for the full moon performance of Arthur
  B. Rubinstein's Observations on 4
October. 

It's the first time in the observatory's 74-year history that a full
symphony orchestra has performed there. 

The observatory has provided the backdrop for a host of classic movies,
including Rebel without a Cause, The Terminator, Bowfinger and Transformers.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0900999/