Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now

2009-08-21 Thread Mr. Worf
Hehehe you know I thought that looked familiar! Good eye!

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:47 PM, angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Well put.  I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably won't watch any
 more.  Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4.

 Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up
 living room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut)
 is the same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG.  Ha!


  -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com
  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
  
  Ê
  
  
  
  It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a
  sexual drama.
  
  --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/
  ]gmail.com wrote:
  
  
  From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
  To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com
  Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM
  
  Ê
  The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they
  can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost
 the
  ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst.
  
  On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [
  http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01
 3...@lycos.com
  ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote:
  
  Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll
  probably last its full run.
  
  [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/
  tt1319690/
  
  
  
  
  
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  http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 
  0...@yahoo.com
  ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com
  
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  I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness
 the
  leads to cancellation. ..
  
  
  
  
  ___ _ _ _ __
  From: Martin Baxter
  
  To: [
  http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifino...@yahoogroups. com
  ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com
  Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM
  Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
  
  
  Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it
  bbegan. I
  
  I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times.
 (Maybe
  on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked,
  without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out
  what's really up.
  
  As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch
  a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart.
 
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  Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now
  Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC)
  From : Keith Johnson
 
  To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com
  
  Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way
  of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052
  that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System.
 Very
  quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret
  involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom
  is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the
  spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps
  cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two
  astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I
  overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered
  by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of
  the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps
  this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure.
  
  Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and
  decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the
  scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to
  heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too
 much
  of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to
  convey reality. Or I'm watching two astronauts make nekkid love in zero g
  and feeling vaguely manipulated at an attempt to make me feel awestruck
 or
  something. There's a lot of flashbacks and flashforwards that make
  following the story a bit confusing at times. Lost this ain't. There's
  also a odd flow: a mix of serious drama, melodrama, camp soap opera type
  moments, silly humour supported by Desperate Housewives type music, and
  

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Baxter

Maybe they're building for a Gravity-BG crossover event. What's in Pod 4 is 
actually the Cylon God, and these are Cylons and I REALLY need to shut up 
before RDM sees this and gets ideas...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: asrobin...@mindspring.com
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 01:47:10 +
Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now















 





  Well put.  I watched the first 3 eps on hulu, but probably 
won't watch any more.  Thye've made it too hard for me to care what's in pod 4.



Funny thing I noticed though: about 2:15 into Ep 3 (scene: the packed-up living 
room of the couple originally on the mission before the guy got cut) is the 
same as Starbuck's appartment on BSG.  Ha!



 -From: George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com

 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

 Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 11:17:06 AM

 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now

 

 Ê 

 

 

 

 It seemed cheap and boring.Just enough sci-fi , not to qualify as a

 sexual drama.

 

 --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ [ http://gmail. com/

 ]gmail.com wrote:

 

 

 From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com

 Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now

 To: scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com

 Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:12 PM

 

 Ê 

 The formula isn't right for network tv. They will kill it because they

 can't do any product placement or have cameos of guest stars to boost the

 ratings. The show is tepid at best and a snoozefest at its worst. 

 

 On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Martin Baxter [

 http://us.mc586. .mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=truthseeker01 3...@lycos.com

 ]truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote:

 

 Pal, it's a Canadian series, the rights to which ABC bought, so it'll

 probably last its full run.

 

 [ http://www.imdb. com/title/ tt1319690/ ]http://www.imdb. com/title/

 tt1319690/

 

 

 

 

 

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 ÊSubject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now

 

 ÊDate : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:06:12 -0700 (PDT)

 

 ÊFrom : C.W. Badie [

 http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=astromancer20 0...@yahoo. com

 ]astromancer2002@ yahoo.com

 

 ÊTo : [

 http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com

 ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com

 

 

 I liked it, but it's rather loose storytelling, the type of looseness the

 leads to cancellation. ..

 

 

 

 

 ___ _ _ _ __

 From: Martin Baxter

 

 To: [

 http://us.mc586. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com

 ]scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com

 Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 8:24:50 AM

 Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now

 

 

 Keith, I almost missed it, stumbling across it two minutes before it

 bbegan. I

 

 I enjoyed it overall, though the pacing was a bit leaden at times. (Maybe

 on purpose?) The mysterious nature of the real mission has me hooked,

 without saying. Can't wait until the MC ventures into Pod 4 to find out

 what's really up.

 

 As for the incidental music, I really don't take notice of it as I watch

 a TV show or movie, unless it's a song near and dear to my heart.

 

 -[ Received Mail Content ]--

 Subject : [scifinoir2] Defying Gravity on ABC now

 Date : Mon, 3 Aug 2009 02:13:45 + (UTC)

 From : Keith Johnson

 

 To : scifino...@yahoogro [ http://ups.com/ ]ups.com

 

 Anyone watching ABC's entry into the Big Brother in Outer Space by way

 of BSG-style drama? It deals with a seven-year mission in the year 2052

 that sends eight astronauts to visit six planets in the Solar System. Very

 quickly into the show, we're made aware there's some kind of secret

 involved. The two most experienced astronauts in the program (one of whom

 is played by Malik Yoba) are initially left off the mission aboard the

 spaceship Antares.. Later, when some kind of heart problem keeps

 cropping up among the crew--evidently tied to the secret--the two

 astronauts are blasted into space to join the mission. One comment I

 overheard makes me think some kind of sentient race has been encountered

 by humanity--perhaps on a previous tragic mission to Mars in which one of

 the current astronauts had to leave three of his fellows behind. Perhaps

 this sentient race is controlling the mission somehow? Not sure.

 

 Also not sure yet if I'll like the show. It has some decent actors and

 decent lines. But just when I'm starting to get into the mission and the

 scifi aspect of it, I'm distracted by overpowering music that attempts to

 heighten a scene, the lead astronaut's self-reflective monologue, too much

 of the newly-hot camera work (a la BSG and Star Trek) with a shaky cam to

 convey reality. Or 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Baxter

I do. I'd be the first on the line, if I had time and transportation at the 
same time.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:22:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally















 





  The thing that irks me about all of this is that there aren't 
many democrats taking an offensive posture. It is mostly folks reacting to how 
stupid these people are. Were are the heated protests against this kind of 
madness? Where are the protesters against the people promoting this kind of 
behavior??? In the hood we call this being punked. I choose not to be punked by 
the republican party. You feel me?



On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


























And I doubt that they would've even been seen on camera, because they would've 
been disposed of with lightning swiftness, delivered to Gitmo within 24 hours.

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:33:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Weapons at Obama rally















 





  The head of Progressive magazine asked this exact question on 
KPFA Berkeley this morning. If it were black people doing this at a Bush rally 
I'm quite sure that they would have ended up in jail. There are a lot of double 
standards that have been allowed as of late. 




On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:39 AM, daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote:

I wonder what would have happened if the New Black Panther Party, PIP, AIM or 
any armed leftist group would have been within a mile of Dubya exercising their 
rights to openly bear arms?



During the last administration people were jailed for wearing shirts or having 
signs that were politcally abrasive to the people in power and FOX and the like 
thought it was great. How times have changed.



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:





 (standing ovation)



 When I first saw this, I thought only of all of the reports of threats 
 against President Obama. Just scary. The comments on the vid of this on 
 YouTube are running mostly PRO-this guy. I take that to be all of the wounded 
 neocons coming out of their holes, but still a scary thing.





 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik









 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: hellomahog...@...

 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:31:30 -0700

 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally











































   That is just so wrong. Our government needs to make a 
 statement about this kind of behavior no matter what their point of view is 
 that asinine stuff like this should never be tolerated. Period.





 There are certain things that shouldn't be done. I would think that bringing 
 a gun to a political rally should be on the top 5.







 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:





















































 Mr Worf, I get the feeling that he won't even be questioned. Am I the only 
 person thinking that the Secret Service needs to be replaced in a hurry? I've 
 lost track of the number of threats against President Obama this year. On the 
 Young Turks web site, they once named them off, at least six.







 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik











 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: hellomahog...@...

 Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:19:46 -0700



 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Weapons at Obama rally











































   So I hope they throw his dumb ass in jail for a good long 
 time. Just for Gp.





 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:























































 This was apparently a planned publicity stunt by a conservative radio host... 
 soemwhere. Can't remember the place. Worst thing about this?



 It *would* have to be a brother packing the AR-15...



 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html







 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik











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2009-08-21 Thread Augustus Augustus
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Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Augustus Augustus
sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

Fate.

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--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:

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Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
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Cc: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM






 





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RE: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Baxter

Move over, Teddy...

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




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CC: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:49:00 -0700
Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay















 





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[scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'

2009-08-21 Thread daikaiju66
They make pretty good diversions. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:

 
 Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't 
 keep slow people around you.
 
 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 From: daikaij...@...
 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
   Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms 
 industry will make a killing though. *ahem*
 
 
 
 Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping 
 Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it 
 except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. 
 
 
 
 I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first 
 movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade 
 yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later 
 and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be 
 dealt with if you take action quickly.
 
 
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
  A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event 
  might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's 
  rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet.
 
  
 
  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
  
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 
  From: sincere1906@
 
  Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 +
 
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack'
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
Science ponders 'zombie attack' 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  By Pallab Ghosh 
 
  
 
  Science correspondent, BBC News 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse 
  of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by 
  researchers in Canada. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would 
  eradicate the fictional creatures. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling 
  Research Progress. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, 
  able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  But there is a serious side to the work. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading 
  infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the 
  spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a 
  zombie then it's dead forever 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Professor Neil Ferguson 
 
  
 
  In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton 
  University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle 
  between zombies and the living, who would win? 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a 
  typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack 
  using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome 
  with numerical solutions. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  More from Today programme  
 
  
 
  To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic 
  slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent 
  creatures portrayed in some recent films. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - 
  especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider 
  these individuals, the researchers said. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Back for good?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the 
  zombies would only put off the inevitable. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope 
  is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... 
  we are all in a great deal of trouble. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and 
  the spread of real infections is that 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Baxter

That's a thought. Someone's got to be noble and rescue the damsels in distress. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: daikaij...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:40:56 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'















 





  They make pretty good diversions. 



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote:



 

 Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't 
 keep slow people around you.

 

 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

 

 

 

 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 From: daikaij...@...

 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 +

 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

   Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms 
 industry will make a killing though. *ahem*

 

 

 

 Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping 
 Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it 
 except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. 

 

 

 

 I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first 
 movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade 
 yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later 
 and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be 
 dealt with if you take action quickly.

 

 

 

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote:

 

 

 

  

 

  A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event 
  might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's 
  rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet.

 

  

 

  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

 

  

 

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

 

  From: sincere1906@

 

  Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 +

 

  Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack'

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

Science ponders 'zombie attack' 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  By Pallab Ghosh 

 

  

 

  Science correspondent, BBC News 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse 
  of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by 
  researchers in Canada. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would 
  eradicate the fictional creatures. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling 
  Research Progress. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, 
  able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  But there is a serious side to the work. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading 
  infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the 
  spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a 
  zombie then it's dead forever 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  Professor Neil Ferguson 

 

  

 

  In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton 
  University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle 
  between zombies and the living, who would win? 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a 
  typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack 
  using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome 
  with numerical solutions. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  More from Today programme  

 

  

 

  To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic 
  slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent 
  creatures portrayed in some recent films. 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - 
  especially as 

Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Mr. Worf
Excellent!

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus
jazzynupe_...@yahoo.comwrote:



 sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

 Fate.

 p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video without
 making people cut and paste.

 --- On *Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com* wrote:


 From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
 To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM



 http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

 Fate.




 




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RE: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Reece Jennings
You can use the free www.tinyurl.com and cut the size of it:
 
http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m
 

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


  

Excellent!



On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

Fate.

p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video without
making people cut and paste.  

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfan
mailto:blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
tasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Sci Fi scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
ups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM


  



http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

Fate.









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Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Mr. Worf
Tinyurl was hacked a few times in the last 6 months spreading malware. I
don't trust them anymore.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.comwrote:



 You can use the free www.tinyurl.com and cut the size of it:

 *http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m*


  --
 *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
 *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay



 Excellent!

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus 
 jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:



   sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

 Fate.

 p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video without
 making people cut and paste.

 --- On *Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com* wrote:


 From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
 To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM



   http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

 Fate.







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RE: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Reece Jennings
Didn't know that!  Thanks!
 
How the hell do you hack a url change program?  I'm so old-school...sigh...

  _  

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


  

Tinyurl was hacked a few times in the last 6 months spreading malware. I
don't trust them anymore. 



On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings124@
mailto:mcjennings...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




You can use the free www.tinyurl. http://www.tinyurl.com com and cut the
size of it:
 
http://tinyurl. http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m com/mmjm8m
 

  _  

From: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM
To: scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


  



Excellent!


On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

Fate.

p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video without
making people cut and paste.  

--- On Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@
mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote:




From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ mailto:jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
yahoo.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfan
mailto:blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
tasyc...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Sci Fi scifino...@yahoogro mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
ups.com
Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM


  



http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

Fate.









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Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread Mr. Worf
They hacked the site itself, so when you clicked the url it was downloading
an Active X or Javascript that added a virus to your system. (Or some
variant of this.Keyloggers, or other crap.) Internet Explorer users are
usually hit by this kind of attack. The average user doesn't know how to
prevent this from happening. There is also the risk of the program being
smart enough to maneuver around any anti-virus software the user is running
as well.

One of the things that I always dreaded when I did tech support was summer
vacation, because as soon as there was a break a new virus would appear.
Mainly from bored hackers that are out of school.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Didn't know that!  Thanks!

 How the hell do you hack a url change program?  I'm so old-school...sigh...

  --
 *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
 *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 PM

 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay



 Tinyurl was hacked a few times in the last 6 months spreading malware. I
 don't trust them anymore.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Reece Jennings 
 mcjennings...@yahoo.comwrote:



 You can use the free www.tinyurl.com and cut the size of it:

 *http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m*


  --
 *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
 *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay



 Excellent!

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus 
 jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:



   sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

 Fate.

 p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video
 without making people cut and paste.

 --- On *Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com*wrote:


 From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
 To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM



   http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

 Fate.







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 Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/






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Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay

2009-08-21 Thread mcjennings124
Whew.  Thanks, Mr. Worf.

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:08:05 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay


They hacked the site itself, so when you clicked the url it was downloading
an Active X or Javascript that added a virus to your system. (Or some
variant of this.Keyloggers, or other crap.) Internet Explorer users are
usually hit by this kind of attack. The average user doesn't know how to
prevent this from happening. There is also the risk of the program being
smart enough to maneuver around any anti-virus software the user is running
as well.

One of the things that I always dreaded when I did tech support was summer
vacation, because as soon as there was a break a new virus would appear.
Mainly from bored hackers that are out of school.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.comwrote:



 Didn't know that!  Thanks!

 How the hell do you hack a url change program?  I'm so old-school...sigh...

  --
 *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
 *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 8:28 PM

 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay



 Tinyurl was hacked a few times in the last 6 months spreading malware. I
 don't trust them anymore.

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Reece Jennings 
 mcjennings...@yahoo.comwrote:



 You can use the free www.tinyurl.com and cut the size of it:

 *http://tinyurl.com/mmjm8m*


  --
 *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
 *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 7:24 PM
 *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] foreplay



 Excellent!

 On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Augustus Augustus 
 jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote:



   sorry, u have 2 cut and paste the entire link -  minus the spaces.

 Fate.

 p.s.  one day i am going 2 learn how 2 embed the entire link/video
 without making people cut and paste.

 --- On *Fri, 8/21/09, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com*wrote:


 From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] foreplay
 To: Black SciFi blackscifihorrorfantasyc...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: Sci Fi scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 9:49 AM



   http://www.collegeh umor.com/ video:1910202

 Fate.







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 Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years!
 Mahogany at:
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/






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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers

2009-08-21 Thread C.W. Badie
(handing Martin a handkerchief)





From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:19:33 AM
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers

  
Oh, yeah

(misting up)

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:16:20 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers

  


I remember that too, good stuff. Never did figure why the Deryni of Gwynedd 
didn't leave en masse and go to the neighboring countries, some of which had 
openly practicing Deryni.
By the way, I remember getting misty eyed later, when Evaine-who, if I remember 
had lost a child too--was doing one of the spiritual/psychic things, and caught 
a glimpse of the Afterlife. There, she saw her husband and child, and decided 
to just let go, while her frantic brother tried to call her back. that was 
something...


- Original Message -
From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com
To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:56:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers

  
I hear you, pal.

My own moment-of-tears with the written word came when I first read Katherine 
Kurtz's Camber the Heretic, a scene when a group of psi-gifted humanoids 
where being massacred by humans. One of the humanoids (Deryni, their race was 
called), Rhys, a doctor with the power to heal, was trying to escape when he 
saw injured humans nearby. Being a doctor, he followed the Hippocratic and 
stopped to begin healing the person. As he was doing so, he was hit from 
behind, a blow that stoved in his head, destroying the part of his brain that 
enabled him to heal. His wife Evaine learned this as she went into his mind, 
trying to access his power to heal him. All the while, he was still conscious, 
feeling himself die, saying his goodbyes to his friends telepathically. .. 
marked the first and only time I've ever thrown a book. 

If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik






To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:20:26 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers

  


Sorry, but the biggest tearjerking moment for me was not in a movie...It was 
from Octavia Butler's Wild Seed, when Anyanwu came to the conclusion that she 
was never going to change or escape from Doro, so she decided to just commit 
suicide (basically let herself die as she was immortal). Doro, realizing that 
Anyanwu was the only constant in his life, breaks down and pleads with her not 
to do it because he could not bare life without her (gotta read the bookI'm 
not good at explanations. ..in fact, I suck at it...). Until I read that book, 
I had never shed a tear over the written word...





From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:07:35 PM
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers

  


The Blade Runner scene is poignant and memorable, can't believe I forgot that 
one. But, is it really a tearjerker ? It makes me sad, but not misty-eyed.. .

- Original Message -
From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:50:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: SF's 26 Greatest Tearjerkers

  
That's actually a great list. There is one omission I found striking and that 
is Roy Batty's speech on the rooftop in Blade Runner. That is classic.

The Serenity choice is a great one. I remember being stunned into silence and 
hearing audible gasps when the famous line I am a leaf on the wind is said 
that last time.

I'm glad they gave B5 some love too.

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne..brennan@ ... 
wrote:

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 the end of season 1 for me.
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~
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 On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Martin Baxter
 truthseeker013@ ...wrote:
 
 
 
  Grab Kleenex, folks...
 
  http://www.sfx. co.uk/page/ sfx?entry= sf_s_26_greatest _tearjerkers
 
  If all the world's a stage 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'

2009-08-21 Thread C.W. Badie
LOL...I heard that on NPR the other day...pretty funny stuff as well as 
interesting...





From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:40:56 AM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'

  
They make pretty good diversions. 

--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote:

 
 Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't 
 keep slow people around you.
 
 If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
 hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
 
 
 
 To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 From: daikaij...@. ..
 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 +
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a 
 killing though. *ahem*
 
 
 
 Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping 
 Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it 
 except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. 
 
 
 
 I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first 
 movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade 
 yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later 
 and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be 
 dealt with if you take action quickly.
 
 
 
 --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@  wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
  A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event 
  might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's 
  rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet.
 
  
 
  If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
  bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant
 
  
 
  http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
 
  From: sincere1906@
 
  Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 +
 
  Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack'
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Science ponders 'zombie attack' 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  By Pallab Ghosh 
 
  
 
  Science correspondent, BBC News 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse 
  of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by 
  researchers in Canada. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would 
  eradicate the fictional creatures. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling 
  Research Progress. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, 
  able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  But there is a serious side to the work. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading 
  infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the 
  spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a 
  zombie then it's dead forever 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Professor Neil Ferguson 
 
  
 
  In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton 
  University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle 
  between zombies and the living, who would win? 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a 
  typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack 
  using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome 
  with numerical solutions. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  More from Today programme 
 
  
 
  To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic 
  slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent 
  creatures portrayed in some recent films. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - 
  especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider 
  these individuals,  the researchers said. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Back for good?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the 
  zombies would only put off the inevitable. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope 
  is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often.