[scifinoir2] movie: Surrogates
I was a little leery about watching this film, but I have always loved movies that have robots in them. A surrogate isn't exactly a robot, but more of a remote controlled device that allows people to control the machine, see and feel their surroundings. One of the interesting things that they theorized in the film was that the crime rate would drop to almost zero if everyone had a surrogate. I think that thieves would have a field day robbing homes of people that are online with their surrogates. No resistance. They are plugged in and they can't hear you. You could steal the entire house and they wouldn't know it. They think that everyone in the world would be happy because they could be the younger, prettier versions of themselves or whomever they would want to be. An example of this would be a middle aged white man could appear to be a cute 18yr old Japanese girl. That alone could make for endless discussions. I did wonder what would happen if there was a technology like this that existed. Would our world suddenly become a utopia if we didn't have racial and beauty issues because we would be our own idea of beauty? Or would it still fall into the morass of the haves and have nots. I won't give away how the film deals with that topic. One thing that I thought was interesting about the film is that they didn't dazzle us with enormous amounts of cgi. There wasn't a lot of high tech vehicles, or terminator helicopters flying about. Most of the technology looked as if it were a year or two from now which was great, because it allowed us to focus more on the story. You can actually spot different parts of the Paramount lot in some shots. Bruce Willis plays an FBI agent that is investigating the murder of a young man. The first murder since the surrogates became widely used. It is the first time that the surrogate's host has been killed at the same time as the surrogate has been destroyed. Ving Rhames plays the Prophet, the leader of the anti-surrogate group. I would have loved to have seen more interaction between Willis and Rhames in this movie. We just don't get to see much range out of action type stars. Overall, I wanted to dislike this film, but I found parts of it fresh. Although there were some glaringly obvious cliches that made parts predictable, I would still say that it is a pretty good film. I love it when film makers take time to explore the balance between morality and technology. We just don't get enough of it nowadays. I give it 3 stars out of 5 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Intro: Gina SF California
Hi I'm Gina and I love all things Sci Fi, from classic twilight zone to cheezy B movie 70's Food Of The Gods type stuff. I am a big X files fan and I have a blog. Right now I am writing a story on the blog which is an erotic fantasy about a stripper and a wolf. I look forward to meeting everyone in the group. visit me at: www.theginagoldshow.com Blogging For The Rest Of You Muthas
[scifinoir2] The Yes Men Punk the Chamber on Climate Change
ahar...@earthlink.net This got great coverage on www.democracynow.org! http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/10/yes-men-punk-chamber The Yes Men Punk the Chamber - By Kate Sheppard | Mon October 19, 2009 9:31 AM PST The Chamber of Commerce stunned DC on Monday by calling a last-minute press conference to announce a dramatic about-face in its climate policy-it would not only stop opposing the Kerry-Boxer climate bill but would work with them to make it better. But the whole thing turned out to be a hoax mounted by the Yes Men, a notorious band of anti-corporate pranksters. Reporters received a press release early Monday stating that the Chamber would be throwing its weight behind strong climate legislation at an event at the National Press Club in downtown Washington, DC. But when I and others showed up, we were met by a fellow dressed in a suit looking like a typical corporate PR man. This wasn't Chamber President and CEO Tom Donohue. And I recognized him as Yes Man Andy Bichlbaum. (I've written about the group previously.) He soon was telling reporters, We at the Chamber have tried to keep climate science from interfering with business. But without a stable climate, there will be no business. The Yes Men posted text of the fake speech on a fake website that closely mirrors the actual Chamber site. There were a couple of tell-tale signs that there might be some funny business going on: The speech was to come from Tom Donahue, while the actual CEO of the Chamber is named Tom Donohue. And as TPM pointed out, the press release announcing the event was issued by one Erica Avidus, whose last name is Latin for greedy. As one might expect, the real Chamber was none too pleased. Eric Wohlschlegel, spokesman for the US Chamber, showed up and protested loudly during the event. This is a fraudulent press conference! he yelled. Later he could be heard asking a Press Club employee how they could host this kind of stunt. How could someone call and represent the Chamber in this way? he asked. We do a lot of events here. We're very supportive of the Press Club. The Press Club wasn't very happy either. An employee was overheard telling one of the organizers that they could have canceled it based on your illegal behavior. Surely the reporters who showed up were also miffed. I initially fell for the press release, but was thankfully tipped off to the scam before the event. But reporters for Reuters, Greenwire and other news organizations showed up to cover the event, and Reuters, basing its reporting on the press release, posted a piece proclaiming that the Chamber had made an about face and no longer opposes climate change legislation, which was republished on the Washington Post and New York Times sites. National Journal took the bait as well. Reuters ran a correction a little while later. Most reporters at the event, however, were utterly confused. Which one is the real Chamber? one asked. The Yes Men, and their allies at the Avaaz Action Factory who helped coordinate the event, were pleased with the latest in their series of climate-change-related stunts. Recent efforts include a fake issue of the New York Post proclaiming We're Screwed! that was distributed in New York during the United Nations Climate Summit; or their Survivaball system for withstanding climate change (a.k.a a gated community for one). Over the years, the Yes Men have honed an expertise in elaborate pranks that call attention to corporate misbehavior (see the latest issue of Mother Jones for a piece by Dave Gilson on the Yes Men's MO and the changing role of the prank in the age of Borat). It definitely does get attention for causes, said Bichlbaum. It definitely gets coverage about things, and points out obvious things. Like right now the Chamber has this troglodytic stance on climate change, completely ridiculous. UPDATE: It appears CNBC also bit on the fake story. SEE ALSO: US Chamber of Commerce responds to Yes Men hoax A Yes Man talks to Mother Jones about the Chamber Prank Kate Sheppard talks to Rachel Maddow about the Yes Men stunt US Chamber spends a record $300,000 per day on lobbying video of @TheYesMen press conference, interrupted by the *actual* Chamber of Commerce: http://sn.im/yesmen1019 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.24/2449 - Release Date: 10/20/09 18:42:00 image001.jpg
Re: [scifinoir2] movie: Surrogates
Great review, thanks. I was wanting to hear an opinion on the film, to see if I should catch it at the five-dollar theatre near me. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:12:49 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] movie: Surrogates I was a little leery about watching this film, but I have always loved movies that have robots in them. A surrogate isn't exactly a robot, but more of a remote controlled device that allows people to control the machine, see and feel their surroundings. One of the interesting things that they theorized in the film was that the crime rate would drop to almost zero if everyone had a surrogate. I think that thieves would have a field day robbing homes of people that are online with their surrogates. No resistance. They are plugged in and they can't hear you. You could steal the entire house and they wouldn't know it. They think that everyone in the world would be happy because they could be the younger, prettier versions of themselves or whomever they would want to be. An example of this would be a middle aged white man could appear to be a cute 18yr old Japanese girl. That alone could make for endless discussions. I did wonder what would happen if there was a technology like this that existed. Would our world suddenly become a utopia if we didn't have racial and beauty issues because we would be our own idea of beauty? Or would it still fall into the morass of the haves and have nots. I won't give away how the film deals with that topic. One thing that I thought was interesting about the film is that they didn't dazzle us with enormous amounts of cgi. There wasn't a lot of high tech vehicles, or terminator helicopters flying about. Most of the technology looked as if it were a year or two from now which was great, because it allowed us to focus more on the story. You can actually spot different parts of the Paramount lot in some shots. Bruce Willis plays an FBI agent that is investigating the murder of a young man. The first murder since the surrogates became widely used. It is the first time that the surrogate's host has been killed at the same time as the surrogate has been destroyed. Ving Rhames plays the Prophet, the leader of the anti-surrogate group. I would have loved to have seen more interaction between Willis and Rhames in this movie. We just don't get to see much range out of action type stars. Overall, I wanted to dislike this film, but I found parts of it fresh. Although there were some glaringly obvious cliches that made parts predictable, I would still say that it is a pretty good film. I love it when film makers take time to explore the balance between morality and technology. We just don't get enough of it nowadays. I give it 3 stars out of 5 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre?
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=114sid=1789915 October 20, 2009 - 2:47pm LOS ANGELES (AP) - Vampires have been an eternal force in Hollywood horror since silent-movie days, yet they have risen to new heights as the Twilight franchise, TV's True Blood and other incarnations put the bite on viewers. In studio flicks, independent and foreign-language films and small-screen series, there are more bloodsuckers out there today than you can shake a wooden stake at. With so many vampires afoot, will Hollywood's favorite night creatures lose their flavor with fans? Will there be a vampire glut? Will the vampire market crash? I don't know, said Chris Weitz, director of November's The Twilight Saga: New Moon, part two in the movie series based on Stephenie Meyer's vampire-romance novels. It's kind of the only growth industry in America, that I can tell. So many of Dracula's brethren are being sired nowadays that Weitz and his brother have dueling vampire films out this fall. Paul Weitz's Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant opens Friday, with John C. Reilly as a centuries-old bloodsucker in a traveling freak show. While vampires have a strong pulse in Hollywood, some expect the genre could bleed out from overexposure. Sometimes there are trends with audiences and with film studios, TV stations, and they go wild, and they run like lemmings in one direction until they go over the cliff, said Werner Herzog, who directed 1979's Nosferatu the Vampyre. The genre of vampire films in its darkness and in its nightmarish aspect is a genre that will be forever, but sometimes, you have an overload, an overkill, and when the heap gets too, too big, everybody starts to turn away. In his 2007 Antarctica documentary Encounters at the End of the World, Herzog wisecracked that he was not making yet another movie about penguins, a reference to a spate of films on the cold-weather birds. Penguins reached a glut after only a handful of movies, but the sheer variety of vampire stories lends them superhuman durability for exploring the issues and fears of mortals. I think vampires are richer veins than penguins, Reilly said. There's only so much you can do with penguins. They're cute. They can't fly. They live in snow and ice. Vampires benefit from modern fans' hunger for fantastic stories. Otherworldly tales once were aimed mostly at specialized horror, science-fiction or fantasy audiences, with a Star Wars or an E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial occasionally breaking out to huge crowds. Movie-goers today besiege theaters for out-of-this-world stories, from Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings to the latest adventures of Batman or the X-Men. We're at a supernatural height right now with superheroes and science fiction. I think it's all being embraced, with `Battlestar Galactica' being a critical hit and `Iron Man' being a huge mainstream hit, said Meredith Woerner, whose book Vampire Taxonomy: Identifying and Interacting With the Modern-day Bloodsucker hits stores in early November. It's a great time where people are ready for some magic. Vampires have been hardy souls on screen for ages, dating back to 1920s and '30s classics such as Nosferatu, Vampyr and the original Dracula, with Bela Lugosi. Dracula has been played by countless actors, among them Lon Chaney Jr., Christopher Lee, Frank Langella and Gary Oldman. Movies and shows such as The Lost Boys and Buffy the Vampire Slayer transfused teen power to vampire tales, helping to open the current vein of hip, pretty young dead things in the genre. What's particular about them now is it's coinciding with the optimum market for TV and film. It's that young market, it's kind of the `Dawson's Creek' thing, said Michael Sheen, who co-stars as the vampire Aro in the Twilight sequel and played a werewolf in the Underworld vampire franchise. Whereas in the past, I don't think that has been the case. The symbol of vampires has never quite hit that marketing gold. Along with True Blood, recent TV bloodsucker sagas include The Vampire Diaries, Blood Ties, Moonlight and Britain's Young Dracula and Being Human. Among recent and upcoming big-screen stories are Blood: The Last Vampire, the horror comedy Transylmania, Ethan Hawke's vampire armageddon thriller Daybreakers and foreign-language vamp tales such as Sweden's Let the Right One In and South Korea's Thirst. Twilight leads the way, its love story between an immortal vampire stud (Robert Pattinson) and a sensitive school girl (Kristen Stewart) proving irresistible to teen and older audiences alike. So far, fans seem willing to devour as many vampire stories as Hollywood can dish out. The truth is, you can't have too many vampire movies, just like you can't have too many zombie movies. Each movie is capable of being allegories for different things, said Cirque du Freak star Reilly. Ours is this whole other universe for vampires that have nothing to do with Dracula or good-looking
Re: [scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre?
lawwwl Every time that gets asked, and every time the publishers say Vampires are dead, I laugh. And I laugh, and I laugh, and I laugh...and I cash my royalty statements. They'll never die--that's the thing with certain genres, mythologies, and legends. People will always be interested in vampires. The interest may wax and wane, but it'll still be there, it'll never go away. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=114sid=1789915 October 20, 2009 - 2:47pm LOS ANGELES (AP) - Vampires have been an eternal force in Hollywood horror since silent-movie days, yet they have risen to new heights as the Twilight franchise, TV's True Blood and other incarnations put the bite on viewers. In studio flicks, independent and foreign-language films and small-screen series, there are more bloodsuckers out there today than you can shake a wooden stake at. With so many vampires afoot, will Hollywood's favorite night creatures lose their flavor with fans?
Re: [scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre?
lawwwl? - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:58:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre? lawwwl Every time that gets asked, and every time the publishers say Vampires are dead, I laugh. And I laugh, and I laugh, and I laugh...and I cash my royalty statements. They'll never die--that's the thing with certain genres, mythologies, and legends. People will always be interested in vampires. The interest may wax and wane, but it'll still be there, it'll never go away. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=114sid=1789915 October 20, 2009 - 2:47pm LOS ANGELES (AP) - Vampires have been an eternal force in Hollywood horror since silent-movie days, yet they have risen to new heights as the Twilight franchise, TV's True Blood and other incarnations put the bite on viewers. In studio flicks, independent and foreign-language films and small-screen series, there are more bloodsuckers out there today than you can shake a wooden stake at. With so many vampires afoot, will Hollywood's favorite night creatures lose their flavor with fans?
Re: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time
oh come on! How can you make any but the most peripheral connection between the weather and Misery or Deep Blue Sea? They had storms in the stories, of course, but that's hardly the same as being movies about the weather. So what's next: The Shining - snowed in in a haunted hotel Chicken Little - does the falling sky qualify as a metereological event? The Road to Perdition-- I seem to remember Hanks' character standing in a rainstorm at one poin BladeRunner - Lots of rain, especially at the end, when Roy's memories were lost like tears in the rain - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:02:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time You would think NBC Universal would abide by the old adage that if it ain't broke don't fix it but...nah. ~(no)rave! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_en_mo/us_tv_perfect_storm Weather Channel to air movies for first time By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer David Bauder, Ap Television Writer Tue Oct 20, 3:41 pm ET NEW YORK – The Weather Channel plans to show movies for the first time in its 27-year history and it's easy to guess which one is leading off. The Perfect Storm, of course. The George Clooney and Mark Wahlberg movie about a horrific storm off the New England coast will air on Oct. 30, the 18th anniversary of the actual storm. Network executives had been thinking about adding movies, and the timing proved too good to pass up, said Geoffrey Darby, the network's chief programmer. The network in recent years gradually slipped in longer programming, including a morning show hosted by Al Roker, to complement its constantly rotating forecasts. The Perfect Storm begins a four-week period in which The Weather Channel will try some Friday night movies. The films are either weather-themed or have plots in which weather plays a key role, Darby said. Meteorologist Jennifer Carfagno will host movie night and offer commentary. Other movies include the documentary March of the Penguins, the thriller Deep Blue Sea and Misery, for which Kathy Bates won an Academy Award. The weather angle is pretty clear in The Perfect Storm, but Misery? Darby noted the nightmare endured by James Caan's character begins with a blinding snowstorm. For The Weather Channel, the risk lies in alienating its regular weather-obsessed viewers, who tune in for news of high pressure systems rather than high drama. The potential reward is that new fans will tune in, and they'll stay on the station for a longer period, pleasing advertisers. Darby said most viewers on Friday night aren't interested in much more than the weekend forecast, and that will be updated on the screen six times an hour. It's a way to respond to at least a significant portion of our audience that says, `Let's expand the definition of weather,' he said. The idea predates NBC Universal's purchase of The Weather Channel, Darby said. None of the first four movies are distributed by NBC Universal.
RE: [scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre?
I ahve to agree with Adrianne, considering that, as I type, Siffy is winding up a day-long neckbiter fest. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:58:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre? lawwwl Every time that gets asked, and every time the publishers say Vampires are dead, I laugh. And I laugh, and I laugh, and I laugh...and I cash my royalty statements. They'll never die--that's the thing with certain genres, mythologies, and legends. People will always be interested in vampires. The interest may wax and wane, but it'll still be there, it'll never go away. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=114sid=1789915 October 20, 2009 - 2:47pm LOS ANGELES (AP) - Vampires have been an eternal force in Hollywood horror since silent-movie days, yet they have risen to new heights as the Twilight franchise, TV's True Blood and other incarnations put the bite on viewers. In studio flicks, independent and foreign-language films and small-screen series, there are more bloodsuckers out there today than you can shake a wooden stake at. With so many vampires afoot, will Hollywood's favorite night creatures lose their flavor with fans? _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] The Yes Men Punk the Chamber on Climate Change
That was EPIC!! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: munger5...@yahoo.com From: ahar...@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:22:56 -0400 Subject: [scifinoir2] The Yes Men Punk the Chamber on Climate Change ahar...@earthlink.net This got great coverage on www.democracynow.org! http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/10/yes-men-punk-chamber The Yes Men Punk the Chamber — By Kate Sheppard | Mon October 19, 2009 9:31 AM PST The Chamber of Commerce stunned DC on Monday by calling a last-minute press conference to announce a dramatic about-face in its climate policy—it would not only stop opposing the Kerry-Boxer climate bill but would work with them to make it better. But the whole thing turned out to be a hoax mounted by the Yes Men, a notorious band of anti-corporate pranksters. Reporters received a press release early Monday stating that the Chamber would be throwing its weight behind strong climate legislation at an event at the National Press Club in downtown Washington, DC. But when I and others showed up, we were met by a fellow dressed in a suit looking like a typical corporate PR man. This wasn't Chamber President and CEO Tom Donohue. And I recognized him as Yes Man Andy Bichlbaum. (I've written about the group previously.) He soon was telling reporters, We at the Chamber have tried to keep climate science from interfering with business. But without a stable climate, there will be no business. The Yes Men posted text of the fake speech on a fake website that closely mirrors the actual Chamber site. There were a couple of tell-tale signs that there might be some funny business going on: The speech was to come from Tom Donahue, while the actual CEO of the Chamber is named Tom Donohue. And as TPM pointed out, the press release announcing the event was issued by one Erica Avidus, whose last name is Latin for greedy. As one might expect, the real Chamber was none too pleased. Eric Wohlschlegel, spokesman for the US Chamber, showed up and protested loudly during the event. This is a fraudulent press conference! he yelled. Later he could be heard asking a Press Club employee how they could host this kind of stunt. How could someone call and represent the Chamber in this way? he asked. We do a lot of events here. We're very supportive of the Press Club. The Press Club wasn't very happy either. An employee was overheard telling one of the organizers that they could have canceled it based on your illegal behavior. Surely the reporters who showed up were also miffed. I initially fell for the press release, but was thankfully tipped off to the scam before the event. But reporters for Reuters, Greenwire and other news organizations showed up to cover the event, and Reuters, basing its reporting on the press release, posted a piece proclaiming that the Chamber had made an about face and no longer opposes climate change legislation, which was republished on the Washington Post and New York Times sites. National Journal took the bait as well. Reuters ran a correction a little while later. Most reporters at the event, however, were utterly confused. Which one is the real Chamber? one asked. The Yes Men, and their allies at the Avaaz Action Factory who helped coordinate the event, were pleased with the latest in their series of climate-change-related stunts. Recent efforts include a fake issue of the New York Post proclaiming We're Screwed! that was distributed in New York during the United Nations Climate Summit; or their Survivaball system for withstanding climate change (a.k.a a gated community for one). Over the years, the Yes Men have honed an expertise in elaborate pranks that call attention to corporate misbehavior (see the latest issue of Mother Jones for a piece by Dave Gilson on the Yes Men's MO and the changing role of the prank in the age of Borat). It definitely does get attention for causes, said Bichlbaum. It definitely gets coverage about things, and points out obvious things. Like right now the Chamber has this troglodytic stance on climate change, completely ridiculous. UPDATE: It appears CNBC also bit on the fake story. SEE ALSO: US Chamber of Commerce responds to Yes Men hoax A Yes Man talks to Mother Jones about the Chamber Prank Kate Sheppard talks to Rachel Maddow about the Yes Men stunt US Chamber spends a record $300,000 per day on lobbying video of @TheYesMen press conference, interrupted by the *actual* Chamber of Commerce: http://sn.im/yesmen1019 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.422 / Virus Database: 270.14.24/2449 - Release Date: 10/20/09 18:42:00
Re: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time
You have to remember that they are trying to sell it to viacom. So they are going to make everything more profitable. That means some channels will loose integrity to raise ratings. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: You would think NBC Universal would abide by the old adage that if it ain't broke don't fix it but...nah. ~(no)rave! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_en_mo/us_tv_perfect_storm Weather Channel to air movies for first time By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer David Bauder, Ap Television Writer Tue Oct 20, 3:41 pm ET NEW YORK – The Weather Channel plans to show movies for the first time in its 27-year history and it's easy to guess which one is leading off. The Perfect Storm, of course. The George Clooney and Mark Wahlberg movie about a horrific storm off the New England coast will air on Oct. 30, the 18th anniversary of the actual storm. Network executives had been thinking about adding movies, and the timing proved too good to pass up, said Geoffrey Darby, the network's chief programmer. The network in recent years gradually slipped in longer programming, including a morning show hosted by Al Roker, to complement its constantly rotating forecasts. The Perfect Storm begins a four-week period in which The Weather Channel will try some Friday night movies. The films are either weather-themed or have plots in which weather plays a key role, Darby said. Meteorologist Jennifer Carfagno will host movie night and offer commentary. Other movies include the documentary March of the Penguins, the thriller Deep Blue Sea and Misery, for which Kathy Bates won an Academy Award. The weather angle is pretty clear in The Perfect Storm, but Misery? Darby noted the nightmare endured by James Caan's character begins with a blinding snowstorm. For The Weather Channel, the risk lies in alienating its regular weather-obsessed viewers, who tune in for news of high pressure systems rather than high drama. The potential reward is that new fans will tune in, and they'll stay on the station for a longer period, pleasing advertisers. Darby said most viewers on Friday night aren't interested in much more than the weekend forecast, and that will be updated on the screen six times an hour. It's a way to respond to at least a significant portion of our audience that says, `Let's expand the definition of weather,' he said. The idea predates NBC Universal's purchase of The Weather Channel, Darby said. None of the first four movies are distributed by NBC Universal. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Intro: Gina SF California
Welcome to the forum, Gina! Have fun, and be careful to listen to all of the whispers about me. Odds are, they're true. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: SciFiNoir2@yahoogroups.com From: goldelox...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:12:57 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Intro: Gina SF California Hi I'm Gina and I love all things Sci Fi, from classic twilight zone to cheezy B movie 70's Food Of The Gods type stuff. I am a big X files fan and I have a blog. Right now I am writing a story on the blog which is an erotic fantasy about a stripper and a wolf. I look forward to meeting everyone in the group. visit me at: www.theginagoldshow.com Blogging For The Rest Of You Muthas _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Orionid Meteor Shower Peaks Overnight
Thanks for the heads-up, Keith! Odds are, I'll be putting in an all-nighter working, so I'll be able to roll up the blinds, part the curtains and enjoy. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:33:13 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Orionid Meteor Shower Peaks Overnight Worth staying up to take a gander, I should say. www.space.com Get Out: Orionid Meteor Shower Peaks Overnight By Robert Roy Britt Editorial Director posted: 20 October 2009 12:13 pm ET The Orionid meteor shower is expected to put on a good show tonight into the predawn hours Wednesday, weather permitting. This annual meteor shower is created when Earth passes through trails of comet debris left in space long ago by Halley's Comet. The shooting stars develop when bits typically no larger than a pea , and mostly sand-grain-sized, vaporize in Earth's upper atmosphere. Flakes of comet dust hitting the atmosphere should give us dozens of meteors per hour, said Bill Cooke of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office. People in cities and suburbs will see far fewer meteors, because all but the brightest of them will be overpowered by light pollution. The best view will be from rural areas (the moon will not be a factor, so dark skies will make for ideal viewing). When and how to watch The best time to watch will be between 1 a.m. and dawn local time Wednesday morning, regardless of your location. That's when the patch of Earth you are standing on is barreling headlong into space on Earth's orbital track, and meteors get scooped up like bugs on a windshield. Peak activity, when Earth wades into the densest part of the debris, is expected around 6 a.m. ET (3 a.m. PT). Some meteors could show up late tonight, too. Late-night viewing typically offers fewer meteors, however, because your patch of Earth is positioned akin to the back window of the speeding car. The Orionids have been strong in recent years. Since 2006, the Orionids have been one of the best showers of the year, with counts of 60 or more meteors per hour, Cooke said. Some of those counts come in flurries, so skywatchers should find a comfortable spot with as wide a view of the sky as possible. Lie back and allow 15 minutes for your eyes to adjust to the darkness, then give the show at least a half hour to play out through spurts and lulls. Meteors could appear anywhere in the sky, though traced back they will appear to emanate from the constellation Orion. Telescopes and binoculars are of no use, because meteors move too quickly. Extra warm clothing is a must, and a blanket and pillow or lounge chair allows comfortable positioning so you can look up for long stretches. Reliable event Predicting meteor showers is tricky because the debris comes from multiple streams. Each time comet Halley passes around the sun on its elongated orbit – every 76 years – it lays down a fresh track of debris for Earth to plow through in subsequent years. Those tracks spread out and mingle over time, and we pass the tracks each October during our 365-day, nearly circular trek around the sun. Japanese researchers Mikiya Sato and Jun-ichi Watanabe say activity in recent years is related to debris put in place from 1266 BC to 911 BC, and this could be another good year, according to NASA. Even if that prediction does not hold, the Orionids will almost surely put on a decent show. Prior to 2006 and going back many years, the Orionids have produced a reliable 15 to 20 meteors per hour at the peak, for skywatchers with dark skies. As a bonus, this time of year you can expect an additional five to 10 sporadic meteors per hour – those not related to the shower. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie
Reading things like that are probably why I'm so reticent to commit to seeing movies at the theaters. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:38:36 -0700 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie When I first saw this I thought it was a parody. Since most of us complain about the lack of story. The fact that he admits it and feels no shame is a amazing From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:16 PM To: SciFiNoir2; ggs...@yahoo.com; cinque3...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie Tracey... you mean that Bay once *used* scripts? 8-O If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; ggs...@yahoo.com; cinque3...@verizon.net From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:52:35 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie atch some great Decepticon-on-military-satellite action from Transformers 2, while director Michael Bay explains why you don't need to have a script when you start creating cool robot action, in this exclusive commentary clip from the Revenge Of The Fallen DVD. As you might know, the writers' strike forced Bay to start work on TF2 without an actual script — all he had was an outline by writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. So a lot of the movie's early designs and ideas came about without a real script, and when Orci and Kurtzman came back to work after the strike, Bay was able to tell them which robots he wanted in the movie. As he says in this clip, all of that pre-visualization work and brainstorming with artists actually informed the movie's script, once it finally had one. You probably have your own ideas about whether that was a good thing. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen comes out on DVD tomorrow, October 20, on Blu-Ray and DVD, wherever awesomeness is available. Here's what the press release says about the two-disc DVD/Blu-Ray edition: Two-Disc Special Edition DVD Blu-ray: The TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen two-disc Special Edition DVD is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 televisions with Dolby Digital English 5.1 Surround, French 5.1 Surround and Spanish 5.1 Surround with English, French and Spanish subtitles. The Blu-ray will be presented in 1080p high definition with English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, French 5.1 Dolby Digital and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital with English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese subtitles. The disc breakdown is as follows: Disc 1: • Commentary by Michael Bay, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman Disc 2: • The Human Factor: Exacting Revenge of the Fallen-This multi-chapter documentary chronicles the entire creation of the film and includes interviews with the cast and crew: o Seeds of Vengeance - Development and Design - After the overwhelming success of 2007's Transformers, how do the filmmakers top themselves for the sequel? o Domestic Destruction – Production: United States - Michael Bay believes in going big: Big action and big explosions. Cast and crew are pushed to the limit as they traverse the U.S. from New Mexico to Pennsylvania. o Joint Operations – Production: Military - No other filmmaker in the world enjoys the kind of military access and cooperation Michael Bay has. Here we see just how efficient our armed forces are and the awe and respect shown by the cast. o Wonders of the World – Production: Middle East - You can't really reproduce Egypt anywhere but Egypt so off we go to Giza and Luxor. o Start Making Sense - Editing - In order to turn over the massive amount of film as quickly as possible to VFX, four editors work tirelessly in a unique tag-team approach to shape the film. o Under the Gun – Visual Effects – Revenge of the Fallen features the most complicated VFX in film history. So complicated in fact that the filmmakers were unsure they would make the deadline. The DEVASTATOR VFX alone required 83% of ILM's total render farm capacity. o Running the Gauntlet – Post-Production and Release - Working seven days a week, Michael Bay and company usher the film through sound design, Digital Intermediate color-timing and a globe-trotting whirlwind of premieres. • A Day with Bay: Tokyo-An intimate and fun all-access journey with Michael Bay as he travels to Tokyo, Japan tor the world premiere of
RE: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time
In other words, the Siffy Factor. Martin (couldn't fight the urge to say that) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:48:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time You have to remember that they are trying to sell it to viacom. So they are going to make everything more profitable. That means some channels will loose integrity to raise ratings. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: You would think NBC Universal would abide by the old adage that if it ain't broke don't fix it but...nah. ~(no)rave! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_en_mo/us_tv_perfect_storm Weather Channel to air movies for first time By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer David Bauder, Ap Television Writer Tue Oct 20, 3:41 pm ET NEW YORK – The Weather Channel plans to show movies for the first time in its 27-year history and it's easy to guess which one is leading off. The Perfect Storm, of course. The George Clooney and Mark Wahlberg movie about a horrific storm off the New England coast will air on Oct. 30, the 18th anniversary of the actual storm. Network executives had been thinking about adding movies, and the timing proved too good to pass up, said Geoffrey Darby, the network's chief programmer. The network in recent years gradually slipped in longer programming, including a morning show hosted by Al Roker, to complement its constantly rotating forecasts. The Perfect Storm begins a four-week period in which The Weather Channel will try some Friday night movies. The films are either weather-themed or have plots in which weather plays a key role, Darby said. Meteorologist Jennifer Carfagno will host movie night and offer commentary. Other movies include the documentary March of the Penguins, the thriller Deep Blue Sea and Misery, for which Kathy Bates won an Academy Award. The weather angle is pretty clear in The Perfect Storm, but Misery? Darby noted the nightmare endured by James Caan's character begins with a blinding snowstorm. For The Weather Channel, the risk lies in alienating its regular weather-obsessed viewers, who tune in for news of high pressure systems rather than high drama. The potential reward is that new fans will tune in, and they'll stay on the station for a longer period, pleasing advertisers. Darby said most viewers on Friday night aren't interested in much more than the weekend forecast, and that will be updated on the screen six times an hour. It's a way to respond to at least a significant portion of our audience that says, `Let's expand the definition of weather,' he said. The idea predates NBC Universal's purchase of The Weather Channel, Darby said. None of the first four movies are distributed by NBC Universal. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/
Re: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time
Isn't Syfy owned by NBC? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: In other words, the Siffy Factor. Martin (couldn't fight the urge to say that) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:48:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time You have to remember that they are trying to sell it to viacom. So they are going to make everything more profitable. That means some channels will loose integrity to raise ratings. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: You would think NBC Universal would abide by the old adage that if it ain't broke don't fix it but...nah. ~(no)rave! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_en_mo/us_tv_perfect_storm Weather Channel to air movies for first time By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer David Bauder, Ap Television Writer Tue Oct 20, 3:41 pm ET NEW YORK – The Weather Channel plans to show movies for the first time in its 27-year history and it's easy to guess which one is leading off. The Perfect Storm, of course. The George Clooney and Mark Wahlberg movie about a horrific storm off the New England coast will air on Oct. 30, the 18th anniversary of the actual storm. Network executives had been thinking about adding movies, and the timing proved too good to pass up, said Geoffrey Darby, the network's chief programmer. The network in recent years gradually slipped in longer programming, including a morning show hosted by Al Roker, to complement its constantly rotating forecasts. The Perfect Storm begins a four-week period in which The Weather Channel will try some Friday night movies. The films are either weather-themed or have plots in which weather plays a key role, Darby said. Meteorologist Jennifer Carfagno will host movie night and offer commentary. Other movies include the documentary March of the Penguins, the thriller Deep Blue Sea and Misery, for which Kathy Bates won an Academy Award. The weather angle is pretty clear in The Perfect Storm, but Misery? Darby noted the nightmare endured by James Caan's character begins with a blinding snowstorm. For The Weather Channel, the risk lies in alienating its regular weather-obsessed viewers, who tune in for news of high pressure systems rather than high drama. The potential reward is that new fans will tune in, and they'll stay on the station for a longer period, pleasing advertisers. Darby said most viewers on Friday night aren't interested in much more than the weekend forecast, and that will be updated on the screen six times an hour. It's a way to respond to at least a significant portion of our audience that says, `Let's expand the definition of weather,' he said. The idea predates NBC Universal's purchase of The Weather Channel, Darby said. None of the first four movies are distributed by NBC Universal. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time
Wholly owned and -- shut up, Baxter. If you can't say something nice... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:03:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time Isn't Syfy owned by NBC? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: In other words, the Siffy Factor. Martin (couldn't fight the urge to say that) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:48:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Weather Channel to air movies for first time You have to remember that they are trying to sell it to viacom. So they are going to make everything more profitable. That means some channels will loose integrity to raise ratings. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: You would think NBC Universal would abide by the old adage that if it ain't broke don't fix it but...nah. ~(no)rave! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_en_mo/us_tv_perfect_storm Weather Channel to air movies for first time By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer David Bauder, Ap Television Writer Tue Oct 20, 3:41 pm ET NEW YORK – The Weather Channel plans to show movies for the first time in its 27-year history and it's easy to guess which one is leading off. The Perfect Storm, of course. The George Clooney and Mark Wahlberg movie about a horrific storm off the New England coast will air on Oct. 30, the 18th anniversary of the actual storm. Network executives had been thinking about adding movies, and the timing proved too good to pass up, said Geoffrey Darby, the network's chief programmer. The network in recent years gradually slipped in longer programming, including a morning show hosted by Al Roker, to complement its constantly rotating forecasts. The Perfect Storm begins a four-week period in which The Weather Channel will try some Friday night movies. The films are either weather-themed or have plots in which weather plays a key role, Darby said. Meteorologist Jennifer Carfagno will host movie night and offer commentary. Other movies include the documentary March of the Penguins, the thriller Deep Blue Sea and Misery, for which Kathy Bates won an Academy Award. The weather angle is pretty clear in The Perfect Storm, but Misery? Darby noted the nightmare endured by James Caan's character begins with a blinding snowstorm. For The Weather Channel, the risk lies in alienating its regular weather-obsessed viewers, who tune in for news of high pressure systems rather than high drama. The potential reward is that new fans will tune in, and they'll stay on the station for a longer period, pleasing advertisers. Darby said most viewers on Friday night aren't interested in much more than the weekend forecast, and that will be updated on the screen six times an hour. It's a way to respond to at least a significant portion of our audience that says, `Let's expand the definition of weather,' he said. The idea predates NBC Universal's purchase of The Weather Channel, Darby said. None of the first four movies are distributed by NBC Universal. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:scifinoir2-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.
[scifinoir2] Alex Rider Dream Gadget Contest
I don't know Alex Rider from Adam Rider. Had to look it up: Alex Rider is a series of spy novels by English author Anthony Horowitz about a young spy named Alex Rider. The series is aimed primarily for teenagers.Seven novels have been published to date, as well as three graphic novels, two short stories and a supplementary book. The first novel, Stormbreaker, was first released in the United Kingdom in 2000 and was adapted into a motion picture in 2006. A line of action figures based on the film actors have also been released, featuring two different Alex Rider figures, Darrius Sayle, and Yassen Gregorovich.[1] A video game was released in 2006, based on the film. The novels are published by Walker Books in the United Kingdom. They were first published by Puffin in the United States, but have also been published more recently by Philomel, also an imprint of Penguin Books.[2] The graphic novels are published by Walker in the United Kingdom, and by Philomel in the United States. Anyhoo... http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/21/make-magazine-spy-ga.html http://makezine.com/alexridercontest/ MAKE is teaming up with the Penguin Group to present The Alex Rider Dream Gadget Contest! All of you adventure-seekers and gadget lovers out there are invited to join in. If you were Alex Rider, what gadget would you want in the upcoming adventure Crocodile Tears? Design your dream Alex Rider gadget, inspired by an everyday object (i.e. an iPod, toothpaste, a pen). The winning gadget will be built right here at the MAKE Labs. Send us a schematic of what your gadget is made from and how it works. (Your schematic can be a diagram, a drawing or an explanation by you). Remember that the winning gadget will be inspired by an everyday object that one could realistically build (as much as we wish we could create a pair of scissors that could fly us to the moon)!
Re: [scifinoir2] Insurance Companies: Rape is a preexisting condition
We see outrageous stories from insurance companies regularly now, and yet no one has actually said, ENOUGH!!! THIS IS BULL AND WE MUST REIGN THEM IN!!! My question is why hasn't anyone in the media said that?? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://eseiro.notlong.com A Florida woman, who is a victim of sexual abuse, claims that rape was called a pre-existing condition by several health insurance companies, which would have disqualified her for care. In 2002, Chris Turner, a health insurance agent from Tampa, Florida, was drugged and raped during a business trip. When she conferred with a doctor after her assault, Turner was prescribed preventative anti-HIV drugs, and she later entered counseling to help deal with the residual psychological effects of her rape. A few months later, when Turner was forced to buy new insurance on the individual market, she suspected, based on her knowledge of the approval process, that she may no longer qualify for coverage. She called a series of insurance underwriters and asked them about a hypothetical client who had been raped, and every insurer she called had the same response: Nope, we won't take her. Turner's treatment for her rape, it turns out, constituted a pre-existing condition that the companies said would disqualify her from coverage. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] o/t fake M$ update emails again
Its an oldie but a goodie. Someone started emailing a fake microsoft update with a virus attachment. http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=4674tag=nl.e550 --
[scifinoir2] Re: Intro: San Francisco California
Welcome to the group. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote: Hi Gina, welcome to the group! I'm from the bay area too. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Gina Gold goldelox...@... wrote: Hi I'm Gina and I love all things Sci Fi, from classic twilight zone to cheezy B movie 70's Food Of The Gods type stuff. I am a big X files fan and I have a blog. Right now I am writing a story on the blog which is an erotic fantasy about a stripper and a wolf. I look forward to meeting everyone in the group. visit me at: www.theginagoldshow.com Blogging For The Rest Of You Muthas -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies
I love this line: That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. On a related note, I hate that TV series theme songs are becoming so rare nowadays. So many shows just slap out a quick tune and then cut to commercial. It's not just theme songs with vocals that are disappearing; it's also the ones with longer musical scores. Aside from Law and Order, and a couple others, I can scare think of any show where the theme music is a big part of it. Corny as many were back in the day, you can't deny that the theme songs for everything from The Brady Bunch to Gilligan's Island, from Star Trek to The Beverly Hillbillies stay with you. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:07:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies http://phaiyap.notlong.com Vic Mizzy, a film and television composer best known for writing the memorable theme songs for the 1960s sit-coms Green Acres and The Addams Family, has died. He was 93. Mizzy died of heart failureSaturday at his home in Bel-Air, said Scott Harper, a friend and fellow composer. A veteran writer of popular songs such as There's a Faraway Look in Your Eye and Pretty Kitty Blue Eyes, Mizzy launched his TV career in 1960 when he was asked to compose music for the dramatic anthology series Moment of Fear. He quickly moved on to score episodes of Shirley Temple's Storybook and The Richard Boone Show and to write the themes for Klondike and the Dennis Weaver series Kentucky Jones. Then came an offbeat assignment: The Addams Family, the 1964-66 TV series based on Charles Addams' macabre magazine cartoons and starring John Astin as Gomez Addams and Carolyn Jones as his wife, Morticia. For his theme song, Mizzy played a harpsichord, which gives the theme its unique flavor. And because the production company, Filmways, refused to pay for singers, Mizzy sang it himself and overdubbed it three times. The song, memorably punctuated by finger-snapping, begins with: They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky, they're altogether ooky: the Addams family. In the 1996 book TV's Biggest Hits: The Story of Television Themes From 'Dragnet' to 'Friends,' author Jon Burlingame writes that Mizzy's musical conception was so specific that he became deeply involved with the filming of the main-title sequence, which involved all seven actors snapping their fingers in carefully timed rhythm to Mizzy's music. For Mizzy, who owned the publishing rights to The Addams Family theme, it was an easy payday. I sat down; I went 'buh-buh-buh-bump [snap-snap], buh-buh-buh-bump, he recalled in a 2008 interview on CBS' Sunday Morning show. That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. The season after The Addams Family made its debut, Mizzy composed the title song for Green Acres, the 1965-71 rural comedy starring Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor. For Green Acres, Burlingame observed in his book, Mizzy again conceived the title song as intertwined with the visuals of the show's title sequence and telling the story of wealthy Oliver and Lisa Douglas moving from New York to a farm in the country. Burlingame on Monday described the themes for The Addams Family and Green Acres as two of the best-remembered sitcom themes of all time. Vic was an old-school songwriter who believed in melody and hummability, Burlingame said. He thought that people ought to be able to easily remember a theme. Vic was one of the wittiest composers I ever met, and he had an uncanny ability to incorporate his own personal sense of humor into his music. Mizzy's use of bass harmonica and fuzz guitar in the music of Green Acres, for example, was somehow perfect for that show's setting, and it only added to the humor of the situations, Burlingame said. In the case of The Addams Family, he said, you've got the harpsichord, which lends this antique, sort of macabre quality to the theme. But then you add the lyrics, which make it funny. So you have the perfect combination of macabre and amusing. It was just right for that show's sensibility. Mizzy's many TV credits include writing the themes for Phyllis Diller's 1966-67 sitcom The Pruitts of Southampton and The Don Rickles Show (1968-69), for which Mizzy also conducted the orchestra. Among his movie credits as a composer are the Don Knotts comedies The Ghost and Mr. Chicken, The Reluctant Astronaut, The Shakiest Gun in the West, The Love God? and How to Frame a Figg. Born in Brooklyn on Jan. 9, 1916, Mizzy learned to play the piano as a child. While he was a student at New York University, he and his friend Irving Taylor began writing songs and sketches for variety shows. They appeared on radio's Major Bowes' Original Amateur Hour and won an amateur contest on the Fred Allen show. The team's
Re: [scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre?
Oh I get it: you said LOL with a Southern accent, kinda like Lawdy, Lawdy! - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:19:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre? Ever try pronouncing lol as anything other than letters? :D ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: lawwwl? - Original Message - From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:58:27 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Will Vampiremania put a stake in the heart of this genre? lawwwl Every time that gets asked, and every time the publishers say Vampires are dead, I laugh. And I laugh, and I laugh, and I laugh...and I cash my royalty statements. They'll never die--that's the thing with certain genres, mythologies, and legends. People will always be interested in vampires. The interest may wax and wane, but it'll still be there, it'll never go away. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=114sid=1789915 October 20, 2009 - 2:47pm LOS ANGELES (AP) - Vampires have been an eternal force in Hollywood horror since silent-movie days, yet they have risen to new heights as the Twilight franchise, TV's True Blood and other incarnations put the bite on viewers. In studio flicks, independent and foreign-language films and small-screen series, there are more bloodsuckers out there today than you can shake a wooden stake at. With so many vampires afoot, will Hollywood's favorite night creatures lose their flavor with fans?
Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies
Yea, I had a hard time coming up with themes from the newer shows. BSG, CSI were the only ones that I could think of. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I love this line: That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. On a related note, I hate that TV series theme songs are becoming so rare nowadays. So many shows just slap out a quick tune and then cut to commercial. It's not just theme songs with vocals that are disappearing; it's also the ones with longer musical scores. Aside from Law and Order, and a couple others, I can scare think of any show where the theme music is a big part of it. Corny as many were back in the day, you can't deny that the theme songs for everything from The Brady Bunch to Gilligan's Island, from Star Trek to The Beverly Hillbillies stay with you. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:07:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies http://phaiyap.notlong.com Vic Mizzy, a film and television composer best known for writing the memorable theme songs for the 1960s sit-coms Green Acres and The Addams Family, has died. He was 93. Mizzy died of heart failureSaturday at his home in Bel-Air, said Scott Harper, a friend and fellow composer. A veteran writer of popular songs such as There's a Faraway Look in Your Eye and Pretty Kitty Blue Eyes, Mizzy launched his TV career in 1960 when he was asked to compose music for the dramatic anthology series Moment of Fear. He quickly moved on to score episodes of Shirley Temple's Storybook and The Richard Boone Show and to write the themes for Klondike and the Dennis Weaver series Kentucky Jones. Then came an offbeat assignment: The Addams Family, the 1964-66 TV series based on Charles Addams' macabre magazine cartoons and starring John Astin as Gomez Addams and Carolyn Jones as his wife, Morticia. For his theme song, Mizzy played a harpsichord, which gives the theme its unique flavor. And because the production company, Filmways, refused to pay for singers, Mizzy sang it himself and overdubbed it three times. The song, memorably punctuated by finger-snapping, begins with: They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky, they're altogether ooky: the Addams family. In the 1996 book TV's Biggest Hits: The Story of Television Themes From 'Dragnet' to 'Friends,' author Jon Burlingame writes that Mizzy's musical conception was so specific that he became deeply involved with the filming of the main-title sequence, which involved all seven actors snapping their fingers in carefully timed rhythm to Mizzy's music. For Mizzy, who owned the publishing rights to The Addams Family theme, it was an easy payday. I sat down; I went 'buh-buh-buh-bump [snap-snap], buh-buh-buh-bump, he recalled in a 2008 interview on CBS' Sunday Morning show. That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. The season after The Addams Family made its debut, Mizzy composed the title song for Green Acres, the 1965-71 rural comedy starring Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor. For Green Acres, Burlingame observed in his book, Mizzy again conceived the title song as intertwined with the visuals of the show's title sequence and telling the story of wealthy Oliver and Lisa Douglas moving from New York to a farm in the country. Burlingame on Monday described the themes for The Addams Family and Green Acres as two of the best-remembered sitcom themes of all time. Vic was an old-school songwriter who believed in melody and hummability, Burlingame said. He thought that people ought to be able to easily remember a theme. Vic was one of the wittiest composers I ever met, and he had an uncanny ability to incorporate his own personal sense of humor into his music. Mizzy's use of bass harmonica and fuzz guitar in the music of Green Acres, for example, was somehow perfect for that show's setting, and it only added to the humor of the situations, Burlingame said. In the case of The Addams Family, he said, you've got the harpsichord, which lends this antique, sort of macabre quality to the theme. But then you add the lyrics, which make it funny. So you have the perfect combination of macabre and amusing. It was just right for that show's sensibility. Mizzy's many TV credits include writing the themes for Phyllis Diller's 1966-67 sitcom The Pruitts of Southampton and The Don Rickles Show (1968-69), for which Mizzy also conducted the orchestra. Among his movie credits as a composer are the Don Knotts comedies The Ghost and Mr. Chicken, The Reluctant Astronaut, The Shakiest Gun in the West, The Love God? and How to Frame a Figg. Born in Brooklyn on Jan. 9, 1916, Mizzy learned to play the piano as a child. While he was a student at New York University, he and
Re: [scifinoir2] Went to Sneak Peak of Good Hair
Well, like I said a few days ago, I found it to be entertaining, but ultimately empty of substance. I didn't get the Why of hair straightening or weaving, just the mechanics, cost, and time dedicated. I felt it missed the mark as a documentary in terms of accomplishing what I expected. It's good that it can provoke conversation, true, i just wish Rock had done some more discussion of the historical and practical reasons for why black women do that. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:34:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Went to Sneak Peak of Good Hair Went to see a sneak peak showing of Good Hair last night. I saw it at a suburban theater on the edge of the city (Milwaukee) with an ecletic crowd almost equally divided between blacks, whites and asians, women and men, and ranging in age between 18 and 60. The movie is fascinating and informative - I will never think about Melyssa Ford, Nia Long, Lauren London or Raven Symone the same way again (oddly, I'm still good with Megan Good). I am a black man who has dated only black women; whose mother, sister, ex-wife and daughter are black, and I did not know half of what goes on under a woman's weave. There are several points in the movie that are laugh out loud, spit take with your soda, funny. Still, at the end of the showing I heard more than one viewer, all black, state that while they enjoyed the movie, they were glad they hadn't paid to see it. Others were surprised to learn Good Hair was a documentary. I was a little perturbed that while they had been thoroughly entertained by the documentary, they didn't feel that pleasure was worthy of their entertainment dollar. This, of course, is a valid response. I just find it a little sad. ~(no)rave!
Re: [scifinoir2] movie: Surrogates
that's good for a five dollar flick at a theatre only two miles from my house! I was going to see Where the Wild Things Are, but reviews are decidedly mixed. I hear Sendak himself likes the movie, but I wondered how such a short work would be stretched to movie length. So I guess it's Surrogates, Black Dynamite, and More Than a Game (the story of LeBron James and friends' run for the Ohio high school basketball championship) for me this weekend - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:56:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] movie: Surrogates Thanks Keith. Its not a perfect film. There are holes in the script, and stereotyped characters. I still enjoyed it. On a scale from 1 to 10 most people gave it a 7. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Great review, thanks. I was wanting to hear an opinion on the film, to see if I should catch it at the five-dollar theatre near me. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 2:12:49 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] movie: Surrogates I was a little leery about watching this film, but I have always loved movies that have robots in them. A surrogate isn't exactly a robot, but more of a remote controlled device that allows people to control the machine, see and feel their surroundings. One of the interesting things that they theorized in the film was that the crime rate would drop to almost zero if everyone had a surrogate. I think that thieves would have a field day robbing homes of people that are online with their surrogates. No resistance. They are plugged in and they can't hear you. You could steal the entire house and they wouldn't know it. They think that everyone in the world would be happy because they could be the younger, prettier versions of themselves or whomever they would want to be. An example of this would be a middle aged white man could appear to be a cute 18yr old Japanese girl. That alone could make for endless discussions. I did wonder what would happen if there was a technology like this that existed. Would our world suddenly become a utopia if we didn't have racial and beauty issues because we would be our own idea of beauty? Or would it still fall into the morass of the haves and have nots. I won't give away how the film deals with that topic. One thing that I thought was interesting about the film is that they didn't dazzle us with enormous amounts of cgi. There wasn't a lot of high tech vehicles, or terminator helicopters flying about. Most of the technology looked as if it were a year or two from now which was great, because it allowed us to focus more on the story. You can actually spot different parts of the Paramount lot in some shots. Bruce Willis plays an FBI agent that is investigating the murder of a young man. The first murder since the surrogates became widely used. It is the first time that the surrogate's host has been killed at the same time as the surrogate has been destroyed. Ving Rhames plays the Prophet, the leader of the anti-surrogate group. I would have loved to have seen more interaction between Willis and Rhames in this movie. We just don't get to see much range out of action type stars. Overall, I wanted to dislike this film, but I found parts of it fresh. Although there were some glaringly obvious cliches that made parts predictable, I would still say that it is a pretty good film. I love it when film makers take time to explore the balance between morality and technology. We just don't get enough of it nowadays. I give it 3 stars out of 5 -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie
Well, Bay and is ilk are just part of the equation. There's lots of good fare to be had, especially if you catch the limited release and true indie films at places like the Tara on Cheshire Bridge here in Atlanta. That's where I've seen the likes of Ponyo, Princess Mononoke, and Howl's Moving Castle, as well Lone Star, Sunshine State, and the early release of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:00:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie Reading things like that are probably why I'm so reticent to commit to seeing movies at the theaters. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:38:36 -0700 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie When I first saw this I thought it was a parody. Since most of us complain about the lack of story. The fact that he admits it and feels no shame is a amazing From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:16 PM To: SciFiNoir2; ggs...@yahoo.com; cinque3...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie Tracey... you mean that Bay once *used* scripts? 8-O If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; ggs...@yahoo.com; cinque3...@verizon.net From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:52:35 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie atch some great Decepticon-on-military-satellite action from Transformers 2 , while director Michael Bay explains why you don't need to have a script when you start creating cool robot action, in this exclusive commentary clip from the Revenge Of The Fallen DVD. As you might know, the writers' strike forced Bay to start work on TF2 without an actual script — all he had was an outline by writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. So a lot of the movie's early designs and ideas came about without a real script, and when Orci and Kurtzman came back to work after the strike, Bay was able to tell them which robots he wanted in the movie. As he says in this clip, all of that pre-visualization work and brainstorming with artists actually informed the movie's script, once it finally had one. You probably have your own ideas about whether that was a good thing. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen comes out on DVD tomorrow, October 20, on Blu-Ray and DVD, wherever awesomeness is available. Here's what the press release says about the two-disc DVD/Blu-Ray edition: Two-Disc Special Edition DVD Blu-ray: The TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen two-disc Special Edition DVD is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 televisions with Dolby Digital English 5.1 Surround, French 5.1 Surround and Spanish 5.1 Surround with English, French and Spanish subtitles. The Blu-ray will be presented in 1080p high definition with English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, French 5.1 Dolby Digital and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital with English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese subtitles. The disc breakdown is as follows: Disc 1: • Commentary by Michael Bay, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman Disc 2: • The Human Factor: Exacting Revenge of the Fallen-This multi-chapter documentary chronicles the entire creation of the film and includes interviews with the cast and crew: o Seeds of Vengeance - Development and Design - After the overwhelming success of 2007's Transformers, how do the filmmakers top themselves for the sequel? o Domestic Destruction – Production: United States - Michael Bay believes in going big: Big action and big explosions. Cast and crew are pushed to the limit as they traverse the U.S. from New Mexico to Pennsylvania. o Joint Operations – Production: Military - No other filmmaker in the world enjoys the kind of military access and cooperation Michael Bay has. Here we see just how efficient our armed forces are and the awe and respect shown by the cast. o Wonders of the World – Production: Middle East - You can't really reproduce Egypt anywhere but Egypt so off we go to Giza and Luxor. o Start Making Sense - Editing - In order to turn over the massive amount of film as quickly as possible to VFX, four editors work tirelessly
[scifinoir2] Did SGU's Women Get Lost In The Wrong Universe?
The men of Stargate http://io9.com/tag/stargateuniverse/ Universe have been busy punching, exploring and saving lives using complicated math. Meanwhile the womenfolk have cried, drunk, got naked, and been used up sexually. Is SGU getting a little sexist? Fans certainly think so. Chicago Tribune's http://twitter.com/moryan/status/4977564445 Maureen Ryan pointed out this weekend all the unhappy SGU fans at Television http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:NdDbR283rkMJ:forums.televisionwithoutp ity.com/index.php%3Fshowtopic%3D3176317%26st%3D1500+Honestly,+in+a+weird+way +SGU+seems+very+%27dated%27+in+it%27s+viewpoints+and+set+ups+for+the+female+ characters%3B+I+almost+feel+like+I%27m+watching+scifi+from+the+70%27s.cd=1 hl=enct=clnkgl=usclient=firefox-a Without Pity saying that SGU is getting fairly sexist with their female characters... The thing that continues to astound me is that this is the same network which has seen its best ratings ever for Warehouse [13], a show which appeals to a broader set of demos, particularly bringing in new female viewership to the network yet can't get its head around the fact that those same female viewers are also the most potentially likely to be offended by SGU. They seemed astounded that women watched BSG and loved the female demo's for Warehouse 13 and yet for SGU we have - boob shots and shower shots and so far every women seems to be defined in some way by a male, either through sex in a closet, or needing some guy for comfort or apparently a prior affair . Oh except for Ming Na, our lesbian character who we've only briefly seen acting like a bitch before she left again. There should have been or should be a strong female character in every single episode and virtually all scenes but we get Eli and Rush and Young and Scott and of course dear, helpless Chloe. Honestly, in a weird way SGU seems very 'dated' in it's viewpoints and set ups for the female characters; I almost feel like I'm watching scifi from the 70's. The message board is flooded with negative opinions about the practically mute female cast aboard the Destiny. Ming-Na's much-hyped openly lesbian character has all but said three words along with equally quiet T.J., while the hapless Senator's daughter wanders about the ship never far from the crook of a protective man's arm, even though she so doesn't need it. To be honest I agree and disagree. And I too am a bit dismayed but the complete lack of screen time for the female characters. Especially since I feel like a few of them may be interesting, but I just don't have the slightest clue who they are. That being said, even the men themselves, while getting a lot more screen time are horribly stereotyped. There's the quiet stern one, the crazy one, the nerd, the hot adventurous white guy, and the angry black guy. Do we really want the women getting more screen time, if they will only be subjected to this type of stereotyping? But, the series still has hope. Even though I was loathed to see this weeks big moment for the one talking female character, the Senator's daughter, ended up with her in the shower while the leering nerd PG-ly panted nearby. Right here this scene is both everything that is wrong and is right with SGU. For one, Eli was being forced to interact with people, not just blurt out unfunny zingers for no reason. It was in this moment where we got to see real human interaction that wasn't Rush screaming or forced comedy. Eli's conundrum along with a few other gems give me great hope for the series, because when it hits it's fantastic. Too bad it was sandwiched between two very annoying characters - the Senator's daughter who whines constantly and needs to be surrounded by men at all time, even while showering, and the other one soldier lady who was apparently put on screen for gratuitous I have large breasts camera angles [anyone else catch that moment?]. In fact, I've even forgotten this character's name, I honestly know her as the soldier with larger than average boobs, which makes me sad inside. The series desperately needs to learn how to mesh the world of Stargate and gritty scifi together. And perhaps giving the women more screen time could help. After all, this is the franchise that brought us Samantha Carter. Past females on the show proved that the series knows how to write a strong female character who can stand toe-to-toe with fellow soldiers and talk. Look I'm not asking for much, I don't need a heroine just a slightly strong speaking female will do. Let's hope that the silent female characters, like the medic TJ and possibly fiesty Ming-Na, will give the women something else to do. Which may not be the case for TJ, since the show is all too happy to point out, continually, that she is a PARAMEDIC not a REAL Doctor, which by now sounds less like these people are ill equipped and more like she is ill equipped when repeated over and over. Please note that none of the other main characters are ever really subjected to this
Re: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie
Dang, I average 3 - 5 movies a month at the theatre! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:06:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie I feel ya on that. I am averaging one trip to the theater a year now. Netflix and cable are my friends. :) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Reading things like that are probably why I'm so reticent to commit to seeing movies at the theaters. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:38:36 -0700 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie When I first saw this I thought it was a parody. Since most of us complain about the lack of story. The fact that he admits it and feels no shame is a amazing From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:16 PM To: SciFiNoir2; ggs...@yahoo.com ; cinque3...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie Tracey... you mean that Bay once *used* scripts? 8-O If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ; ggs...@yahoo.com ; cinque3...@verizon.net From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:52:35 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie atch some great Decepticon-on-military-satellite action from Transformers 2 , while director Michael Bay explains why you don't need to have a script when you start creating cool robot action, in this exclusive commentary clip from the Revenge Of The Fallen DVD. As you might know, the writers' strike forced Bay to start work on TF2 without an actual script — all he had was an outline by writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. So a lot of the movie's early designs and ideas came about without a real script, and when Orci and Kurtzman came back to work after the strike, Bay was able to tell them which robots he wanted in the movie. As he says in this clip, all of that pre-visualization work and brainstorming with artists actually informed the movie's script, once it finally had one. You probably have your own ideas about whether that was a good thing. Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen comes out on DVD tomorrow, October 20, on Blu-Ray and DVD, wherever awesomeness is available. Here's what the press release says about the two-disc DVD/Blu-Ray edition: Two-Disc Special Edition DVD Blu-ray: The TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen two-disc Special Edition DVD is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 televisions with Dolby Digital English 5.1 Surround, French 5.1 Surround and Spanish 5.1 Surround with English, French and Spanish subtitles. The Blu-ray will be presented in 1080p high definition with English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, French 5.1 Dolby Digital and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital with English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese subtitles. The disc breakdown is as follows: Disc 1: • Commentary by Michael Bay, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman Disc 2: • The Human Factor: Exacting Revenge of the Fallen-This multi-chapter documentary chronicles the entire creation of the film and includes interviews with the cast and crew: o Seeds of Vengeance - Development and Design - After the overwhelming success of 2007's Transformers, how do the filmmakers top themselves for the sequel? o Domestic Destruction – Production: United States - Michael Bay believes in going big: Big action and big explosions. Cast and crew are pushed to the limit as they traverse the U.S. from New Mexico to Pennsylvania. o Joint Operations – Production: Military - No other filmmaker in the world enjoys the kind of military access and cooperation Michael Bay has. Here we see just how efficient our armed forces are and the awe and respect shown by the cast. o Wonders of the World – Production: Middle East - You can't really reproduce Egypt anywhere but Egypt so off we go to Giza and Luxor. o Start Making Sense - Editing - In order to turn over the massive amount of film as quickly as possible to VFX, four editors work tirelessly in a unique tag-team approach to shape the film. o Under the Gun – Visual Effects – Revenge of the Fallen features the most complicated VFX in film
Re: [scifinoir2] o/t Time Warner Cable Exposes 65,000 Customer Routers to Remote Hacks
I spend more time telling friends to buy their own stuff. Not only is it borderline criminal to pay rental fees for equipment you can own outright off the shelf, you can fiddle with it yourself if so inclined/able, and I've lost count of how many ISP-provided devices simply suck. I have a huge bias against paying rent for crap. To my mind, every modem, satellite receiver, cable box, and DVR should be available from your local Best Buy, BrandSmart, etc. We have gotten so screwed by the big companies, half the time we don't even realize it. I still have a Motorola cable modem I bought online back in 2000. Even with delivery fees, I saved twenty bucks over buying the same model at Circuit City and a whopping thirty-five upfront bucks over the junk brand my cable company wanted to give me. Since it's DOCSIS 1.1, it's getting time to upgrade to a DOCSIS 3.0 version, but it's never failed me. A few years ago, angry that my cable company-provided descrambling box couldn't be programmed to change channels (so I could record to VCR without having to program the VCR) I called customer service. Why can't these boxes y'all force us to rent be programmed to change channels like a VCR? I demanded to know. Sir the answer came, your box is analog, and it can't do that Huh? Analog? It's 2000--this thing is crammed with integrated circuits. And analog or not, you telling me a cable box can't do with my twelve year old TV can do?! Well sir, the rep replied patiently, with the tone of an adult talking to a slow child, That's right. You see, analog doesn't have those capabilities, so that's why--- Well first off, you're wrong about this. But second, even if what you were saying is true, why can't y'all provide a digital box that customers could buy in the store? Well sir (speaking slowly and patiently), digital won't work. You need analog to unscramble a signal, and like I said, analog won't-- I imagine she followed with Hello? Sir? Sir? Are you still there...? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:51:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] o/t Time Warner Cable Exposes 65,000 Customer Routers to Remote Hacks http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/time-warner-cable/ Time Warner Cable Exposes 65,000 Customer Routers to Remote Hacks • By Kim Zetter Email Author • October 20, 2009 | • 6:20 pm | • Categories: Cybersecurity • smcA vulnerability in a Time Warner cable modem and Wi-Fi router deployed to 65,000 customers would allow a hacker to remotely access the device’s administrative menu over the internet, and potentially change the settings to intercept traffic, according to a blogger who discovered the issue. Time Warner acknowledged the problem to Threat Level on Tuesday, and says it’s in the process of testing replacement firmware code from the router manufacturer, which it plans to push out to customers soon. “We were aware of the problem last week and have been working on it since,” said Time Warner spokesman Alex Dudley. The vulnerability lies with Time Warner’s SMC8014 series cable modem/Wi-Fi router combo, made by SMC. The device is one of several options Time Warner offers to customers who don’t want to install their own modem and router to use with the company’s broadband service. The device is installed with default configurations, which customers can alter only slightly through its built-in web server. The most customers can do through this page is add a list of URLs they want their router to block. But blogger David Chen, writing at chenosaurus.com , recently discovered he could easily gain remote access to an administrative page served by the router that would allow him greater control of the device. Chen, founder of a software startup called Pip.io , said he was trying to help a friend change the settings on his cable modem and discovered that Time Warner had hidden administrative functions from its customers with Javascript code. By simply disabling Javascript in his browser, he was able to see those functions, which included a tool to dump the router’s configuration file. That file, it turned out, included the administrative login and password in cleartext. Chen investigated and found the same login and password could access the admin panels for every router in the SMC8014 series on Time Warner’s network — a grave vulnerability, given that the routers also expose their web interfaces to the public-facing internet. time-warner-admin-panelAll of this means that a hacker who wanted to target a specific router and change its settings could access a customer’s admin panel from anywhere on the net through a web browser, log in with the master password, and then start tinkering. Among the possibilities, the intruder could alter the router’s DNS settings — for example, to redirect the
Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies
The Stargates have theme music, as do Eureka, Sanctuary, and Primeval. Almost all animated TV series have theme music (I love Danny Phantom's). - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:26:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies Yea, I had a hard time coming up with themes from the newer shows. BSG, CSI were the only ones that I could think of. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I love this line: That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. On a related note, I hate that TV series theme songs are becoming so rare nowadays. So many shows just slap out a quick tune and then cut to commercial. It's not just theme songs with vocals that are disappearing; it's also the ones with longer musical scores. Aside from Law and Order, and a couple others, I can scare think of any show where the theme music is a big part of it. Corny as many were back in the day, you can't deny that the theme songs for everything from The Brady Bunch to Gilligan's Island, from Star Trek to The Beverly Hillbillies stay with you. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:07:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies http://phaiyap.notlong.com Vic Mizzy, a film and television composer best known for writing the memorable theme songs for the 1960s sit-coms Green Acres and The Addams Family, has died. He was 93. Mizzy died of heart failureSaturday at his home in Bel-Air, said Scott Harper, a friend and fellow composer. A veteran writer of popular songs such as There's a Faraway Look in Your Eye and Pretty Kitty Blue Eyes, Mizzy launched his TV career in 1960 when he was asked to compose music for the dramatic anthology series Moment of Fear. He quickly moved on to score episodes of Shirley Temple's Storybook and The Richard Boone Show and to write the themes for Klondike and the Dennis Weaver series Kentucky Jones. Then came an offbeat assignment: The Addams Family, the 1964-66 TV series based on Charles Addams' macabre magazine cartoons and starring John Astin as Gomez Addams and Carolyn Jones as his wife, Morticia. For his theme song, Mizzy played a harpsichord, which gives the theme its unique flavor. And because the production company, Filmways, refused to pay for singers, Mizzy sang it himself and overdubbed it three times. The song, memorably punctuated by finger-snapping, begins with: They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky, they're altogether ooky: the Addams family. In the 1996 book TV's Biggest Hits: The Story of Television Themes From 'Dragnet' to 'Friends,' author Jon Burlingame writes that Mizzy's musical conception was so specific that he became deeply involved with the filming of the main-title sequence, which involved all seven actors snapping their fingers in carefully timed rhythm to Mizzy's music. For Mizzy, who owned the publishing rights to The Addams Family theme, it was an easy payday. I sat down; I went 'buh-buh-buh-bump [snap-snap], buh-buh-buh-bump, he recalled in a 2008 interview on CBS' Sunday Morning show. That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. The season after The Addams Family made its debut, Mizzy composed the title song for Green Acres, the 1965-71 rural comedy starring Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor. For Green Acres, Burlingame observed in his book, Mizzy again conceived the title song as intertwined with the visuals of the show's title sequence and telling the story of wealthy Oliver and Lisa Douglas moving from New York to a farm in the country. Burlingame on Monday described the themes for The Addams Family and Green Acres as two of the best-remembered sitcom themes of all time. Vic was an old-school songwriter who believed in melody and hummability, Burlingame said. He thought that people ought to be able to easily remember a theme. Vic was one of the wittiest composers I ever met, and he had an uncanny ability to incorporate his own personal sense of humor into his music. Mizzy's use of bass harmonica and fuzz guitar in the music of Green Acres, for example, was somehow perfect for that show's setting, and it only added to the humor of the situations, Burlingame said. In the case of The Addams Family, he said, you've got the harpsichord, which lends this antique, sort of macabre quality to the theme. But then you add the lyrics, which make it funny. So you have the perfect combination of macabre and amusing. It was just right for that show's sensibility. Mizzy's many TV credits include writing the themes for Phyllis Diller's 1966-67 sitcom The Pruitts of
Re: [scifinoir2] o/t Time Warner Cable Exposes 65,000 Customer Routers to Remote Hacks
I agree that it is criminal that they charge so much money to rent a box from them. ISPs are no different. I had problems with my ISP last month and the repair man tried to sell me a new modem although there was no indication that the problem was the modem. (we have had issues with the phone lines multiple times here because of the salt air) He also wanted to charge $60 to install the modem. (I wanted to laugh at that. You plug in 2 plugs, the power and punch in a few numbers and they want $60 for that??) It turned out that the line failed and needed to be fixed. I'm still using the same modem that I had before. If I remember correctly the FCC changed the practice of being able to buy cable boxes to prevent piracy from coaxing from viascum during the Bush jr. administration. There were quite a few cable box manufactures that made boxes for just about every cable company in the country. Some of them were light years ahead of the crap that viascum rents. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I spend more time telling friends to buy their own stuff. Not only is it borderline criminal to pay rental fees for equipment you can own outright off the shelf, you can fiddle with it yourself if so inclined/able, and I've lost count of how many ISP-provided devices simply suck. I have a huge bias against paying rent for crap. To my mind, every modem, satellite receiver, cable box, and DVR should be available from your local Best Buy, BrandSmart, etc. We have gotten so screwed by the big companies, half the time we don't even realize it. I still have a Motorola cable modem I bought online back in 2000. Even with delivery fees, I saved twenty bucks over buying the same model at Circuit City and a whopping thirty-five upfront bucks over the junk brand my cable company wanted to give me. Since it's DOCSIS 1.1, it's getting time to upgrade to a DOCSIS 3.0 version, but it's never failed me. A few years ago, angry that my cable company-provided descrambling box couldn't be programmed to change channels (so I could record to VCR without having to program the VCR) I called customer service. Why can't these boxes y'all force us to rent be programmed to change channels like a VCR? I demanded to know. Sir the answer came, your box is analog, and it can't do that Huh? Analog? It's 2000--this thing is crammed with integrated circuits. And analog or not, you telling me a cable box can't do with my twelve year old TV can do?! Well sir, the rep replied patiently, with the tone of an adult talking to a slow child, That's right. You see, analog doesn't have those capabilities, so that's why--- Well first off, you're wrong about this. But second, even if what you were saying is true, why can't y'all provide a digital box that customers could buy in the store? Well sir (speaking slowly and patiently), digital won't work. You need analog to unscramble a signal, and like I said, analog won't-- I imagine she followed with Hello? Sir? Sir? Are you still there...? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:51:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] o/t Time Warner Cable Exposes 65,000 Customer Routers to Remote Hacks http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/time-warner-cable/ Time Warner Cable Exposes 65,000 Customer Routers to Remote Hacks - By Kim Zetter http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/author/kimzetter/ [image: Email Author] kzet...@wired.com - October 20, 2009 | - 6:20 pm | - Categories: Cybersecurityhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/category/cybersecurity/ - [image: smc]A vulnerability in a Time Warner cable modem and Wi-Fi router deployed to 65,000 customers would allow a hacker to remotely access the device’s administrative menu over the internet, and potentially change the settings to intercept traffic, according to a blogger who discovered the issue. Time Warner acknowledged the problem to Threat Level on Tuesday, and says it’s in the process of testing replacement firmware code from the router manufacturer, which it plans to push out to customers soon. “We were aware of the problem last week and have been working on it since,” said Time Warner spokesman Alex Dudley. The vulnerability lies with Time Warner’s SMC8014http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProductlocaleCode=EN_USAcid=2scid=19pid=1584series cable modem/Wi-Fi router combo, made by SMC. The device is one of several options Time Warner offers to customers who don’t want to install their own modem and router to use with the company’s broadband service. The device is installed with default configurations, which customers can alter only slightly through its built-in web server. The most customers can do through this page is add a list of URLs they want their router to block. But blogger David Chen, writing at
Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies
True, and I do enjoy Eureka's theme. But most shows don't have lyrics anymore. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: The Stargates have theme music, as do Eureka, Sanctuary, and Primeval. Almost all animated TV series have theme music (I love Danny Phantom's). - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:26:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies Yea, I had a hard time coming up with themes from the newer shows. BSG, CSI were the only ones that I could think of. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I love this line: That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. On a related note, I hate that TV series theme songs are becoming so rare nowadays. So many shows just slap out a quick tune and then cut to commercial. It's not just theme songs with vocals that are disappearing; it's also the ones with longer musical scores. Aside from Law and Order, and a couple others, I can scare think of any show where the theme music is a big part of it. Corny as many were back in the day, you can't deny that the theme songs for everything from The Brady Bunch to Gilligan's Island, from Star Trek to The Beverly Hillbillies stay with you. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:07:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies http://phaiyap.notlong.com Vic Mizzy, a film and television composer best known for writing the memorable theme songs for the 1960s sit-coms Green Acres and The Addams Family, has died. He was 93. Mizzy died of heart failureSaturday at his home in Bel-Air, said Scott Harper, a friend and fellow composer. A veteran writer of popular songs such as There's a Faraway Look in Your Eye and Pretty Kitty Blue Eyes, Mizzy launched his TV career in 1960 when he was asked to compose music for the dramatic anthology series Moment of Fear. He quickly moved on to score episodes of Shirley Temple's Storybook and The Richard Boone Show and to write the themes for Klondike and the Dennis Weaver series Kentucky Jones. Then came an offbeat assignment: The Addams Family, the 1964-66 TV series based on Charles Addams' macabre magazine cartoons and starring John Astin as Gomez Addams and Carolyn Jones as his wife, Morticia. For his theme song, Mizzy played a harpsichord, which gives the theme its unique flavor. And because the production company, Filmways, refused to pay for singers, Mizzy sang it himself and overdubbed it three times. The song, memorably punctuated by finger-snapping, begins with: They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky, they're altogether ooky: the Addams family. In the 1996 book TV's Biggest Hits: The Story of Television Themes From 'Dragnet' to 'Friends,' author Jon Burlingame writes that Mizzy's musical conception was so specific that he became deeply involved with the filming of the main-title sequence, which involved all seven actors snapping their fingers in carefully timed rhythm to Mizzy's music. For Mizzy, who owned the publishing rights to The Addams Family theme, it was an easy payday. I sat down; I went 'buh-buh-buh-bump [snap-snap], buh-buh-buh-bump, he recalled in a 2008 interview on CBS' Sunday Morning show. That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. The season after The Addams Family made its debut, Mizzy composed the title song for Green Acres, the 1965-71 rural comedy starring Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor. For Green Acres, Burlingame observed in his book, Mizzy again conceived the title song as intertwined with the visuals of the show's title sequence and telling the story of wealthy Oliver and Lisa Douglas moving from New York to a farm in the country. Burlingame on Monday described the themes for The Addams Family and Green Acres as two of the best-remembered sitcom themes of all time. Vic was an old-school songwriter who believed in melody and hummability, Burlingame said. He thought that people ought to be able to easily remember a theme. Vic was one of the wittiest composers I ever met, and he had an uncanny ability to incorporate his own personal sense of humor into his music. Mizzy's use of bass harmonica and fuzz guitar in the music of Green Acres, for example, was somehow perfect for that show's setting, and it only added to the humor of the situations, Burlingame said. In the case of The Addams Family, he said, you've got the harpsichord, which lends this antique, sort of macabre quality to the theme. But then you add the lyrics, which make it funny. So you have the perfect combination of macabre and amusing. It was
Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies
yep, it's why I mentioned Enterprise. It's actually one of the few left from recent years... - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:00:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies True, and I do enjoy Eureka's theme. But most shows don't have lyrics anymore. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: The Stargates have theme music, as do Eureka, Sanctuary, and Primeval. Almost all animated TV series have theme music (I love Danny Phantom's). - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:26:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies Yea, I had a hard time coming up with themes from the newer shows. BSG, CSI were the only ones that I could think of. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I love this line: That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. On a related note, I hate that TV series theme songs are becoming so rare nowadays. So many shows just slap out a quick tune and then cut to commercial. It's not just theme songs with vocals that are disappearing; it's also the ones with longer musical scores. Aside from Law and Order, and a couple others, I can scare think of any show where the theme music is a big part of it. Corny as many were back in the day, you can't deny that the theme songs for everything from The Brady Bunch to Gilligan's Island, from Star Trek to The Beverly Hillbillies stay with you. - Original Message - From: Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:07:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Composer of Addams Family Theme Song dies http://phaiyap.notlong.com Vic Mizzy, a film and television composer best known for writing the memorable theme songs for the 1960s sit-coms Green Acres and The Addams Family, has died. He was 93. Mizzy died of heart failureSaturday at his home in Bel-Air, said Scott Harper, a friend and fellow composer. A veteran writer of popular songs such as There's a Faraway Look in Your Eye and Pretty Kitty Blue Eyes, Mizzy launched his TV career in 1960 when he was asked to compose music for the dramatic anthology series Moment of Fear. He quickly moved on to score episodes of Shirley Temple's Storybook and The Richard Boone Show and to write the themes for Klondike and the Dennis Weaver series Kentucky Jones. Then came an offbeat assignment: The Addams Family, the 1964-66 TV series based on Charles Addams' macabre magazine cartoons and starring John Astin as Gomez Addams and Carolyn Jones as his wife, Morticia. For his theme song, Mizzy played a harpsichord, which gives the theme its unique flavor. And because the production company, Filmways, refused to pay for singers, Mizzy sang it himself and overdubbed it three times. The song, memorably punctuated by finger-snapping, begins with: They're creepy and they're kooky, mysterious and spooky, they're altogether ooky: the Addams family. In the 1996 book TV's Biggest Hits: The Story of Television Themes From 'Dragnet' to 'Friends,' author Jon Burlingame writes that Mizzy's musical conception was so specific that he became deeply involved with the filming of the main-title sequence, which involved all seven actors snapping their fingers in carefully timed rhythm to Mizzy's music. For Mizzy, who owned the publishing rights to The Addams Family theme, it was an easy payday. I sat down; I went 'buh-buh-buh-bump [snap-snap], buh-buh-buh-bump, he recalled in a 2008 interview on CBS' Sunday Morning show. That's why I'm living in Bel-Air: Two finger snaps and you live in Bel-Air. The season after The Addams Family made its debut, Mizzy composed the title song for Green Acres, the 1965-71 rural comedy starring Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor. For Green Acres, Burlingame observed in his book, Mizzy again conceived the title song as intertwined with the visuals of the show's title sequence and telling the story of wealthy Oliver and Lisa Douglas moving from New York to a farm in the country. Burlingame on Monday described the themes for The Addams Family and Green Acres as two of the best-remembered sitcom themes of all time. Vic was an old-school songwriter who believed in melody and hummability, Burlingame said. He thought that people ought to be able to easily remember a theme. Vic was one of the wittiest composers I ever met, and he had an uncanny ability to incorporate his own personal sense of humor into his music. Mizzy's use of bass harmonica and fuzz guitar in the music of Green Acres, for
RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie
Before I became Matinee mom, I averaged 3 a year, now I do about one or two a month. But just the kids stuff. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:21 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie Dang, I average 3 - 5 movies a month at the theatre! - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:06:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie I feel ya on that. I am averaging one trip to the theater a year now. Netflix and cable are my friends. :) On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: Reading things like that are probably why I'm so reticent to commit to seeing movies at the theaters. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:38:36 -0700 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie When I first saw this I thought it was a parody. Since most of us complain about the lack of story. The fact that he admits it and feels no shame is a amazing From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 1:16 PM To: SciFiNoir2; ggs...@yahoo.com; cinque3...@verizon.net Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie Tracey... you mean that Bay once *used* scripts? 8-O If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik _ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; ggs...@yahoo.com; cinque3...@verizon.net From: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:52:35 -0700 Subject: [scifinoir2] Michael Bay Explains Why You Don't Need A Script To Start Making An Awesome Movie atch some great Decepticon-on-military-satellite action from Transformers 2 http://io9.com/tag/transformers2/ , while director Michael Bay explains why you don't need to have a script when you start creating cool robot action, in this exclusive commentary clip from the Revenge Of The Fallen DVD. As you might know, the writers' strike forced Bay to start work on TF2 without an actual script — all he had was an outline by writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. So a lot of the movie's early designs and ideas came about without a real script, and when Orci and Kurtzman came back to work after the strike, Bay was able to tell them which robots he wanted in the movie. As he says in this clip, all of that pre-visualization work and brainstorming with artists actually informed the movie's script, once it finally had one. You probably have your own ideas about whether that was a good thing. Transformers: http://io9.com/tag/transformersrevengeofthefallen/ Revenge Of The Fallen comes out on DVD tomorrow, October 20, on Blu-Ray and DVD, wherever awesomeness is available. Here's what the press release says about the two-disc DVD/Blu-Ray edition: Two-Disc Special Edition DVD Blu-ray: The TRANSFORMERS: Revenge of the Fallen two-disc Special Edition DVD is presented in widescreen enhanced for 16:9 televisions with Dolby Digital English 5.1 Surround, French 5.1 Surround and Spanish 5.1 Surround with English, French and Spanish subtitles. The Blu-ray will be presented in 1080p high definition with English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio, French 5.1 Dolby Digital and Spanish 5.1 Dolby Digital with English, English SDH, French, Spanish and Brazilian Portuguese subtitles. The disc breakdown is as follows: Disc 1: • Commentary by Michael Bay, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman Disc 2: • The Human Factor: Exacting Revenge of the Fallen-This multi-chapter documentary chronicles the entire creation of the film and includes interviews with the cast and crew: o Seeds of Vengeance - Development and Design - After the overwhelming success of 2007's Transformers, how do the filmmakers top themselves for the sequel? o Domestic Destruction – Production: United States - Michael Bay believes in going big: Big action and big explosions. Cast and crew are pushed to the limit as they traverse the U.S. from New Mexico to Pennsylvania. o Joint Operations – Production: Military - No other filmmaker in the world enjoys the kind of military access and cooperation Michael Bay has. Here we see just how efficient our armed forces are and the awe
RE: [scifinoir2] Insurance Companies: Rape is a preexisting condition
There are between 10- and 15 states allow this. So a bill was set up to make it illegal and the republicans sited interference with capitalism From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:03 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Insurance Companies: Rape is a preexisting condition We see outrageous stories from insurance companies regularly now, and yet no one has actually said, ENOUGH!!! THIS IS BULL AND WE MUST REIGN THEM IN!!! My question is why hasn't anyone in the media said that?? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://eseiro.notlong.com A Florida woman, who is a victim of sexual abuse, claims that rape was called a pre-existing condition by several health insurance companies, which would have disqualified her for care. In 2002, Chris Turner, a health insurance agent from Tampa, Florida, was drugged and raped during a business trip. When she conferred with a doctor after her assault, Turner was prescribed preventative anti-HIV drugs, and she later entered counseling to help deal with the residual psychological effects of her rape. A few months later, when Turner was forced to buy new insurance on the individual market, she suspected, based on her knowledge of the approval process, that she may no longer qualify for coverage. She called a series of insurance underwriters and asked them about a hypothetical client who had been raped, and every insurer she called had the same response: Nope, we won't take her. Turner's treatment for her rape, it turns out, constituted a pre-existing condition that the companies said would disqualify her from coverage. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Insurance Companies: Rape is a preexisting condition
They are drunk with greed. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Tracey de Morsella tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: There are between 10- and 15 states allow this. So a bill was set up to make it illegal and the republicans sited interference with capitalism *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mr. Worf *Sent:* Wednesday, October 21, 2009 3:03 PM *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Insurance Companies: Rape is a preexisting condition We see outrageous stories from insurance companies regularly now, and yet no one has actually said, ENOUGH!!! THIS IS BULL AND WE MUST REIGN THEM IN!!! My question is why hasn't anyone in the media said that?? On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote: http://eseiro.notlong.com A Florida woman, who is a victim of sexual abuse, claims that rape was called a pre-existing condition by several health insurance companies, which would have disqualified her for care. In 2002, Chris Turner, a health insurance agent from Tampa, Florida, was drugged and raped during a business trip. When she conferred with a doctor after her assault, Turner was prescribed preventative anti-HIV drugs, and she later entered counseling to help deal with the residual psychological effects of her rape. A few months later, when Turner was forced to buy new insurance on the individual market, she suspected, based on her knowledge of the approval process, that she may no longer qualify for coverage. She called a series of insurance underwriters and asked them about a hypothetical client who had been raped, and every insurer she called had the same response: Nope, we won't take her. Turner's treatment for her rape, it turns out, constituted a pre-existing condition that the companies said would disqualify her from coverage. Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
