Re: [scifinoir2] Star Wars question
probably not. --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Mr. Worf wrote: From: Mr. Worf Subject: [scifinoir2] Star Wars question To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 8:58 PM We discussed the black Han Solo idea, but what about Lando's character? Would he have been black too? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
It's the same racism/classism that allowed that dump to be created across the street from my parent's house. Also back in those days, the city of Fort Worth decided to build levees around the Trinity River to protect the city against floods. They initially did all the white neighborhoods, and put the black areas on the back burner. The result? The first year my newlywed parents moved into their new home (1949) there was a flood that devastated the black parts of the city. Seven feet of water in my parents' new home. The poor and those of color get neglected all the time, and sadly, we get so used to being neglected, we even stop fighting. There is no other excuse for how a smell this bad--that was assumed to be connected to a place producing *food*--was allowed to continue this long. - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:00:56 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover He got away with it because people never bother to investigate stuff like that. Its the same thing with people that horde or have 150 cats. No one says anything until it becomes a problem that they can't ignore or the police happen to get involved. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kelwyn < ravena...@yahoo.com > wrote: Uh, I hope everyone is not missing the point. Everybody ASSUMED the spell was coming from the sausage shop (NOT a slaughter house) when it was actually coming from the decomposing bodies of women murdered next door. This story puts me in mind of the Jeffrey Dahmer story here in Milwaukee where Mr. Dahmer was killing (and eating) his homosexual lovers and deposing of the uneaten body parts by dissolving his victms in drums of sulfuric acid (talk about your smells!). Dalmer hid his crimes by living in a low income apartment complex on the bad side of town where he was the only white tenant. All the other tenants ascribed the foul smell to Dalmer's whiteness and not his crimes. I am fascinated by how unspeakable evil can so easily hide in plain sight. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > If you haven't had the pleasure of smelling that smell, let me tell you it > is quite unique. San Francisco had a slaughter house in the Hunter's point > area that was there for 50 years. You can still smell the remains of the > cattle they killed 20+ years after it closed. Its in the soil and in the mud > where it ran off. > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > I HATE when this happens! ~rave! > > > > Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop > > > > The Associated Press > > > > updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 > > > > CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten > > neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police have > > determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial killer. > > > > The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony > > Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or > > buried > > in the backyard, authorities said. > > > > Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's Sausage > > Inc. > > > > All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial officer > > of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing > > fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of the > > odor. > > > > Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the family > > feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. > > > > Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the > > Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the negative > > publicity. > > > > "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find > > something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with his > > sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. > > > > Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind them > > and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. > > > > Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in > > Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell case > > often pay dearly. > > > > Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a > > great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in > > Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent grocery > > stores. > > > > Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five counts of > > aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted > > murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his > > home > > Oct. 29. > > > > Th
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
No we got the point. I think Worf is expanding it to illustrate the greater issue, which is that the poor and minority communities are both bastions of crime/neglect, and bad things are simply seen as "normal" for them. Such as smell would not have been allowed to continue for this long in an affluent white community, no matter what one thought the source was. I listened to the city councilman who represents that district on NPR, and he mentioned that he'd called the health department about the smell too. What he couldn't explain, however, was why *he* didn't continue fighting and pushing to get to the bottom of that smell. Environmental racism, racial neglect, racial invisibility (this many young white women going missing would have been national news)--it all goes together to create this toxic stew. And sadly, so many blacks who live in such communities just assume that nothing can be done, so they mutter and take it too. - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 9:42:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover Uh, I hope everyone is not missing the point. Everybody ASSUMED the spell was coming from the sausage shop (NOT a slaughter house) when it was actually coming from the decomposing bodies of women murdered next door. This story puts me in mind of the Jeffrey Dahmer story here in Milwaukee where Mr. Dahmer was killing (and eating) his homosexual lovers and deposing of the uneaten body parts by dissolving his victms in drums of sulfuric acid (talk about your smells!). Dalmer hid his crimes by living in a low income apartment complex on the bad side of town where he was the only white tenant. All the other tenants ascribed the foul smell to Dalmer's whiteness and not his crimes. I am fascinated by how unspeakable evil can so easily hide in plain sight. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > If you haven't had the pleasure of smelling that smell, let me tell you it > is quite unique. San Francisco had a slaughter house in the Hunter's point > area that was there for 50 years. You can still smell the remains of the > cattle they killed 20+ years after it closed. Its in the soil and in the mud > where it ran off. > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > I HATE when this happens! ~rave! > > > > Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop > > > > The Associated Press > > > > updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 > > > > CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten > > neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police have > > determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial killer. > > > > The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony > > Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or > > buried > > in the backyard, authorities said. > > > > Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's Sausage > > Inc. > > > > All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial officer > > of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing > > fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of the > > odor. > > > > Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the family > > feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. > > > > Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the > > Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the negative > > publicity. > > > > "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find > > something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with his > > sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. > > > > Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind them > > and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. > > > > Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in > > Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell case > > often pay dearly. > > > > Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a > > great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in > > Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent grocery > > stores. > > > > Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five counts of > > aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted > > murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his > > home > > Oct. 29. > > > > The ten victims identified were black and many were homeless or living > > alone and had drug or alcohol addictions. > > > > ___ > > > > Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
I am quite familiar with that stench. The Swift-Premium plant was very big, and it was only a few miles away. however, it was closed down years ago, so those smells are just an unpleasant memory for me - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:45:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover I can handle garbage. The stench that I was talking about was the left over blood and guts that they poured into causeway for 50 years, and the huge pits that they buried the leftovers in. When the tide goes out you can still smell it. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: You don't know from smell! I grew up in Fort Worth, only a few miles from a large cattle pen that was one of the starts of the famous Chisolm Trail. For years, there was a Swift-Premium plant there, churning out all kinds of sausage and lunch meats. And,thanks to good old-fashioned environmental racism, the city leaders opted to put the new sanitary landfill in my all-black neighborhood--right across the street from my backyard. I remember the years as a child, not understanding the implications of that callous move, watching the tons of trash being dumped into meters-high hills of garbage. And the smell? Oh yeah: that was ripe at times. And a few miles down the road in the other direction was a Purina plant that churned out dog food. So, sausage, dog food, and garbage. Oh yeah: I know about some stench! - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:29:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover If you haven't had the pleasure of smelling that smell, let me tell you it is quite unique. San Francisco had a slaughter house in the Hunter's point area that was there for 50 years. You can still smell the remains of the cattle they killed 20+ years after it closed. Its in the soil and in the mud where it ran off. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kelwyn < ravena...@yahoo.com > wrote: I HATE when this happens! ~rave! Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop The Associated Press updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police have determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial killer. The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or buried in the backyard, authorities said. Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's Sausage Inc. All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial officer of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of the odor. Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the family feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the negative publicity. "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with his sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind them and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell case often pay dearly. Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent grocery stores. Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five counts of aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his home Oct. 29. The ten victims identified were black and many were homeless or living alone and had drug or alcohol addictions. ___ Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33626624/ns/us_news/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links
[scifinoir2] OT: Clippers Announcers Meet with Iranian Player
I might have to start a column entitled "Post-Racial my A$$" http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-clippers-announcers&prov=ap&type=lgns Clippers announcers meet with Haddadi before game LOS ANGELES (AP)—Clippers play-by-play man Ralph Lawler and color analyst Michael Smith met with Grizzlies center Hamed Haddadi (notes) before Sunday’s game at Staples Center, where they expressed regret for an incident that earned the TV broadcasters a one-game suspension. It was the first meeting between the teams since Lawler’s and Smith’s off-the-cuff remarks about the Iranian-born center during the final minutes of the Clippers’ 106-91 loss at Memphis on Nov. 18. One offended viewer sent an e-mail to the Fox Sports Prime Ticket network. “It went really well,” Lawler told the Associated Press, about an hour before tipoff. “It was really good to get a chance to shake his hand and look him in the eye. We reached out to him, he reached back, and I feel real good about it.” Before Lawler and Smith spoke with Haddadi in the Grizzlies’ dressing room, they had a conversation with his agent and three representatives of the Alliance of Iranian Americans in another room that coach Mike Dunleavy uses for his postgame press conferences. “He doesn’t speak a whole lot of English, so we had his manager translate for us,” Lawler added. “He basically indicated that he’s seen a number of our shows and thought that some people kind of took what we said out of context. He understood there were no ill intentions and understood our humor.” By sheer coincidence, Sunday was Iranian Heritage day. “I think it’s very fitting,” Lawler said. “He said he’s got a gift for us that the manager was going to bring to us later, just as a token of the good will that exists. So I couldn’t be more pleased. I’m glad to finally put it behind us.” Last Monday, when he and Smith returned to the microphones, Lawler spoke at the top of the broadcast about how much the duo regretted the remarks and the firestorm it created. “He’s totally aware,” Lawler said of Haddadi. “He had read the transcript, he had seen the video and was perfectly fine with it.” The transcript of the conversation between Lawler and Smith, which occurred late in the Grizzlies game, was printed on the Los Angeles Times’ Web site: Smith: “Look who’s in.” Lawler: “Hamed Haddadi. Where’s he from?” Smith: “He’s the first Iranian to play in the NBA.” (Smith pronounced Iranian as “Eye-ranian,” a pronunciation that offended a viewer who complained.) Lawler: “There aren’t any Iranian players in the NBA,” repeating Smith’s mispronunciation. Smith: “He’s the only one.” Lawler: “He’s from Iran?” Smith: “I guess so.” Lawler: “That Iran?” Smith: “Yes.” Lawler: “The real Iran?” Smith: “Yes.” Lawler: “Wow. Haddadi that’s H-A-D-D-A-D-I.” Smith: “You’re sure it’s not Borat’s older brother?” Smith: “If they ever make a movie about Haddadi, I’m going to get Sacha Baron Cohen to play the part.” Lawler: “Here’s Haddadi. Nice little back-door pass. I guess those Iranians can pass the ball.” Smith: “Especially the post players. Lawler: “I don’t know about their guards.”
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
He got away with it because people never bother to investigate stuff like that. Its the same thing with people that horde or have 150 cats. No one says anything until it becomes a problem that they can't ignore or the police happen to get involved. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > Uh, I hope everyone is not missing the point. Everybody ASSUMED the spell > was coming from the sausage shop (NOT a slaughter house) when it was > actually coming from the decomposing bodies of women murdered next door. > > This story puts me in mind of the Jeffrey Dahmer story here in Milwaukee > where Mr. Dahmer was killing (and eating) his homosexual lovers and deposing > of the uneaten body parts by dissolving his victms in drums of sulfuric acid > (talk about your smells!). Dalmer hid his crimes by living in a low income > apartment complex on the bad side of town where he was the only white > tenant. All the other tenants ascribed the foul smell to Dalmer's whiteness > and not his crimes. > > I am fascinated by how unspeakable evil can so easily hide in plain sight. > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > > > If you haven't had the pleasure of smelling that smell, let me tell you > it > > is quite unique. San Francisco had a slaughter house in the Hunter's > point > > area that was there for 50 years. You can still smell the remains of the > > cattle they killed 20+ years after it closed. Its in the soil and in the > mud > > where it ran off. > > > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > I HATE when this happens! ~rave! > > > > > > Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop > > > > > > The Associated Press > > > > > > updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 > > > > > > CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten > > > neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police > have > > > determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial > killer. > > > > > > The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony > > > Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or > buried > > > in the backyard, authorities said. > > > > > > Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's > Sausage > > > Inc. > > > > > > All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial > officer > > > of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing > > > fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of > the > > > odor. > > > > > > Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the > family > > > feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. > > > > > > Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the > > > Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the > negative > > > publicity. > > > > > > "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find > > > something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with > his > > > sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. > > > > > > Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind > them > > > and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. > > > > > > Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in > > > Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell > case > > > often pay dearly. > > > > > > Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a > > > great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in > > > Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent > grocery > > > stores. > > > > > > Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five > counts of > > > aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted > > > murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his > home > > > Oct. 29. > > > > > > The ten victims identified were black and many were homeless or living > > > alone and had drug or alcohol addictions. > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com > > > > > > Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material > may > > > not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. > > > URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33626624/ns/us_news/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo > ! > > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! > > Mahogany at: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Lin
[scifinoir2] Re: Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
Uh, I hope everyone is not missing the point. Everybody ASSUMED the spell was coming from the sausage shop (NOT a slaughter house) when it was actually coming from the decomposing bodies of women murdered next door. This story puts me in mind of the Jeffrey Dahmer story here in Milwaukee where Mr. Dahmer was killing (and eating) his homosexual lovers and deposing of the uneaten body parts by dissolving his victms in drums of sulfuric acid (talk about your smells!). Dalmer hid his crimes by living in a low income apartment complex on the bad side of town where he was the only white tenant. All the other tenants ascribed the foul smell to Dalmer's whiteness and not his crimes. I am fascinated by how unspeakable evil can so easily hide in plain sight. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > If you haven't had the pleasure of smelling that smell, let me tell you it > is quite unique. San Francisco had a slaughter house in the Hunter's point > area that was there for 50 years. You can still smell the remains of the > cattle they killed 20+ years after it closed. Its in the soil and in the mud > where it ran off. > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > I HATE when this happens! ~rave! > > > > Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop > > > > The Associated Press > > > > updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 > > > > CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten > > neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police have > > determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial killer. > > > > The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony > > Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or buried > > in the backyard, authorities said. > > > > Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's Sausage > > Inc. > > > > All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial officer > > of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing > > fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of the > > odor. > > > > Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the family > > feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. > > > > Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the > > Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the negative > > publicity. > > > > "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find > > something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with his > > sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. > > > > Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind them > > and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. > > > > Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in > > Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell case > > often pay dearly. > > > > Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a > > great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in > > Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent grocery > > stores. > > > > Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five counts of > > aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted > > murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his home > > Oct. 29. > > > > The ten victims identified were black and many were homeless or living > > alone and had drug or alcohol addictions. > > > > ___ > > > > Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com > > > > Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may > > not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. > > URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33626624/ns/us_news/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > > Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ >
[scifinoir2] Star Wars question
We discussed the black Han Solo idea, but what about Lando's character? Would he have been black too? -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
I can handle garbage. The stench that I was talking about was the left over blood and guts that they poured into causeway for 50 years, and the huge pits that they buried the leftovers in. When the tide goes out you can still smell it. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > You don't know from smell! I grew up in Fort Worth, only a few miles from a > large cattle pen that was one of the starts of the famous Chisolm Trail. For > years, there was a Swift-Premium plant there, churning out all kinds of > sausage and lunch meats. And,thanks to good old-fashioned environmental > racism, the city leaders opted to put the new sanitary landfill in my > all-black neighborhood--right across the street from my backyard. I remember > the years as a child, not understanding the implications of that callous > move, watching the tons of trash being dumped into meters-high hills of > garbage. And the smell? Oh yeah: that was ripe at times. And a few miles > down the road in the other direction was a Purina plant that churned out dog > food. > > > So, sausage, dog food, and garbage. Oh yeah: I know about some stench! > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mr. Worf" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:29:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop > looks to recover > > > > If you haven't had the pleasure of smelling that smell, let me tell you it > is quite unique. San Francisco had a slaughter house in the Hunter's point > area that was there for 50 years. You can still smell the remains of the > cattle they killed 20+ years after it closed. Its in the soil and in the mud > where it ran off. > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > >> I HATE when this happens! ~rave! >> >> Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop >> >> The Associated Press >> >> updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 >> >> CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten >> neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police have >> determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial killer. >> >> The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony >> Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or buried >> in the backyard, authorities said. >> >> Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's >> Sausage Inc. >> >> All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial officer >> of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing >> fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of the >> odor. >> >> Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the >> family feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. >> >> Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the >> Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the negative >> publicity. >> >> "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find >> something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with his >> sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. >> >> Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind them >> and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. >> >> Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in >> Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell case >> often pay dearly. >> >> Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a >> great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in >> Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent grocery >> stores. >> >> Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five counts >> of aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted >> murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his home >> Oct. 29. >> >> The ten victims identified were black and many were homeless or living >> alone and had drug or alcohol addictions. >> >> ___ >> >> Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com >> >> Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material >> may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. >> URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33626624/ns/us_news/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Post your SciFiNoir Profile at >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! >> Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! > Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ > > > > > -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, become s ‘Ninja Assassin’
Funny, that's why I loved it.
Justin
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Keith Johnson
wrote:
>
>
>
> That's good to hear, thanks. Lots of critics are panning it as a gore-filled
> hyperactive mess...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bosco Bosco"
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:18:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja
> Assassin’
>
>
>
> I think you'll be happy with the fight scenes, there's a blend of old school
> and new but you can definitely follow the fighting. Lots of fun slo-mo.
>
> B
>
> --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
> From: Keith Johnson
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja
> Assassin’
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 1:10 PM
>
>
>
> Key question for me. Are the fighting scenes easy to follow, as in most of
> the great Hong Kong martial arts flicks, or, are they nothing but closeups
> and nonstop camera shifts, a la, much of the American action fare produced
> nowadays (G.I. Joe, Second Bourne movie, Quantum of Solace, etc).
>
>
>
> If I can't follow the fights from a distance and *see* the movies I'd have to
> pass. I spent half of Thanksgiving Day watching a Bruce Lee marathon, in part
> because it was so good (the guy is timeless) but also because it was so nice
> to see so fight scenes where one could *follow* the action.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bosco Bosco"
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:00:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja
> Assassin’
>
>
>
> I saw this the day before Thanksgiving. There's little left to the
> imagination from the title. It was 100% fun. Fun fight scenes, cheesey
> dialogue, blood everywhere, super bad villians and a hero with a pure true
> heart. The weapons are awesome and there is some fullbore hilarity
> throughout. That dude was in fact, ripped. Though, I didn't think of him as a
> badass ever. he has such a baby/androgenous face. I pretended it was part of
> his Ninja disguise. If you like lots of fighting and blood, this one's for
> you.
>
> Bosco
>
> --- On Sat, 11/28/09, Kelwyn wrote:
>
> From: Kelwyn
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:28 PM
>
>
>
> http://www.utahmovi ereview.com/ index.php? type=story& aid=000838
>
> Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes `Ninja Assassin'
>
> Story by Roger Moore (MCT) - November 24th, 2009
>
> The Korean pop-star-turned- actor Rain (real name Jeong Ji-hoon) is ready for
> Hollywood stardom. He's willing to put in the work. He's patient.
>
> "It's still not easy to make your mark, as an Asian actor or singer in
> America," Rain says. "If I do my best, Americans will love me, too! I want to
> challenge myself to see where my limit is. If I do my best, over and over
> again, I will succeed. I know it."
>
> So what if "Speed Racer," the first big Hollywood film the 27-year-old
> appeared in, wasn't a smash? He's back, pounding at the door with "Ninja
> Assassin." He plays — wait for it — a ninja assassin, or rather an
> anti-assassin, a former ninja who defends those targeted by ninjas from the
> ninjas. And he has suffered for his art.
>
> "I had to make my body fit, like Bruce Lee," he says. "I trained for eight
> months, five days a week, eight hours a day. I ate only chicken breast and
> vegetables; no sugar, no salt, none of my favorite foods. It was horrible!
>
> "I learned a bit of many different types of martial arts — kung fu, tae kwon
> do, tai chi, kick boxing, karate, karate with swords, chains, shuriken
> (throwing stars), kusarigama (dagger-chains) , ninja tactics. The stunt men
> on the set, they looked out for me. But with those sharp weapons, I could
> hurt myself even more easily than they could hurt me."
>
> It took some doing to sculpt the six-hit-albums singer into a lean, mean
> ninja machine, the loner Raizo, who left that old world of discipline and
> murder behind. The script gets away with a "He looks more like a boy band
> singer" than a ninja wisecrack only because Rain is so ripped. But that
> training regimen, those muscles, don't mean he's giving up the day job.
>
> "I should be able to do both. I plan to concentrate on both" singing and
> acting, he says. Always good to have a Plan B, with the chance of trade
> publications like Variety ("Rain conjures only a mild drizzle as Raizo")
> panning the film and his work in it.
>
> But Rain plans to stick with his game plan, pursuing Hollywood work with a
> vengeance. He hopes, too, that this work might even attract the attention of
> the most famous director back home. The filmmaker he'd most like to work with?
>
> "Oh, Park Chan-wook" ("Old Boy"), he says.
>
>
>
>
--
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Precious' divides among black viewers
Well, it's not about the one movie, it's about making sure we get well-balanced treatments of all aspects of our lives. So what we need now is to be sure we have a positive portrayal to balance out. i guess the closest thing filling that bill will be the Disney movie about the Frog Princess. I'm hearing it's already generating huge amounts of sales from excited black parents and their little girls. By the way, as for "Precious", novelist Sapphire specifically held off allowing a movie to be made based on the book because she didn't want to put another long-lasting negative image of blacks on the big screen. She worried there'd be no positive images out there to offset it. What convinced her was the ascension of Obama to the White House. At last, she felt, the novel could be put on the big screen and we'd still have an undeniably positive image of blacks to turn to for relief. - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:03:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] 'Precious' divides among black viewers www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-tc-arts-precious-1125-1129nov29,0,7481546.story chicagotribune.com COMMENTARY 'Precious' divides among black viewers By Erin Aubry Kaplan Special to Tribune Newspapers November 29, 2009 Long before it opened, "Precious: Based on the Novel 'Push' by Sapphire" had racked up the plaudits for its groundbreaking depiction of the inner life of an overweight, ghetto-dwelling black teenage girl. But since the film's release, a story-outside-the-story has developed that's equally fresh and complicated: black people's reaction to the movie and what it means. Verdicts about high-pitched movies from black viewers and public figures are usually swift and decisive -- "Do the Right Thing," "The Color Purple" and the recent Robert Downey Jr. vehicle "Tropic Thunder" come to mind. But that hasn't happened this time. That's partly because the embrace of "Precious" by the white film establishment has been a bit disorienting for black folk, even off-putting. But it's also because the tough stuff in "Precious," regardless of whether you like the movie, is striking chords of recognition for many black people that are making them not angry or enthusiastic but uncertain. That's new territory. The many issues raised in the course of this one story -- class tensions, self-image, racial progress, how Hollywood bears on all of the above -- have hit black viewers squarely in the gut, rendering the usual arguments about stereotypes inadequate. Not everybody is buying into the nuance. The unrelenting inner-city misery that frames "Precious," including a foul-mouthed welfare mother and an absentee father, has raised plenty of alarms among blacks, notably film critic Armond White. In his review for the New York Press, the famously curmudgeonly White excoriated "Precious" for being an "orgy of prurience," "a Klansman's fantasy," racist propaganda cast from the infamous mold of "Birth of a Nation." For White, "Precious" is bad art because it is a bad representation, a reminder that for black people, art and politics are inseparable. "We just don't want to see black pathology onscreen," says T. Denean Sharpley-Whiting, a professor of critical race studies and hip-hop at Vanderbilt University. "There's clearly a segment of us that worries about what white people think." That worry, she says, is usually about representations of the black poor, a group that's long been an anathema to whites -- and to some blacks as well. Richard Yarborough, an associate professor of English and African-American Studies at UCLA, says the movie can be difficult to watch because, "The abject degradation of black people in 'Precious' is as close as you can get to a modern film that may be similar to a film about slavery." He points out that slave-era films like "Beloved" and " Amistad" didn't do well at the box office, and those were mainstream movies with big budgets and established directors. Those movies also presented widespread black exploitation and oppression as phenomena of the past. "If people aren't going to see slavery in a historical context, why would they go see a movie about slavery in a modern context?" Yarborough says. Still, "Precious" grossed an impressive $11 million on 629 screens last weekend. But an enduring truth about the movie business is that even a widely acclaimed black movie made by blacks doesn't guarantee that another one will be made. "What Spike Lee was doing in the '80s was more challenging and visionary" than "Precious," says Todd Boyd, a professor of critical studies at USC's School of Cinematic Arts. "He's still working. ... But nobody talks about Spike anymore. With features, it's about the money vehicles now, like what Tyler Perry is doing. The days of the small 'impact' film are over." Copyright © 2
Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star ge ts ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
That's good to hear, thanks. Lots of critics are panning it as a gore-filled
hyperactive mess...
- Original Message -
From: "Bosco Bosco"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:18:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
I think you'll be happy with the fight scenes, there's a blend of old school
and new but you can definitely follow the fighting. Lots of fun slo-mo.
B
--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Keith Johnson wrote:
From: Keith Johnson
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 1:10 PM
Key question for me. Are the fighting scenes easy to follow, as in most of the
great Hong Kong martial arts flicks, or, are they nothing but closeups and
nonstop camera shifts, a la, much of the American action fare produced nowadays
(G.I. Joe, Second Bourne movie, Quantum of Solace, etc).
If I can't follow the fights from a distance and *see* the movies I'd have to
pass. I spent half of Thanksgiving Day watching a Bruce Lee marathon, in part
because it was so good (the guy is timeless) but also because it was so nice to
see so fight scenes where one could *follow* the action.
- Original Message -
From: "Bosco Bosco"
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:00:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
I saw this the day before Thanksgiving. There's little left to the imagination
from the title. It was 100% fun. Fun fight scenes, cheesey dialogue, blood
everywhere, super bad villians and a hero with a pure true heart. The weapons
are awesome and there is some fullbore hilarity throughout. That dude was in
fact, ripped. Though, I didn't think of him as a badass ever. he has such a
baby/androgenous face. I pretended it was part of his Ninja disguise. If you
like lots of fighting and blood, this one's for you.
Bosco
--- On Sat, 11/28/09, Kelwyn wrote:
From: Kelwyn
Subject: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:28 PM
http://www.utahmovi ereview.com/ index.php? type=story& aid=000838
Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes `Ninja Assassin'
Story by Roger Moore (MCT) - November 24th, 2009
The Korean pop-star-turned- actor Rain (real name Jeong Ji-hoon) is ready for
Hollywood stardom. He's willing to put in the work. He's patient.
"It's still not easy to make your mark, as an Asian actor or singer in
America," Rain says. "If I do my best, Americans will love me, too! I want to
challenge myself to see where my limit is. If I do my best, over and over
again, I will succeed. I know it."
So what if "Speed Racer," the first big Hollywood film the 27-year-old appeared
in, wasn't a smash? He's back, pounding at the door with "Ninja Assassin." He
plays — wait for it — a ninja assassin, or rather an anti-assassin, a former
ninja who defends those targeted by ninjas from the ninjas. And he has suffered
for his art.
"I had to make my body fit, like Bruce Lee," he says. "I trained for eight
months, five days a week, eight hours a day. I ate only chicken breast and
vegetables; no sugar, no salt, none of my favorite foods. It was horrible!
"I learned a bit of many different types of martial arts — kung fu, tae kwon
do, tai chi, kick boxing, karate, karate with swords, chains, shuriken
(throwing stars), kusarigama (dagger-chains) , ninja tactics. The stunt men on
the set, they looked out for me. But with those sharp weapons, I could hurt
myself even more easily than they could hurt me."
It took some doing to sculpt the six-hit-albums singer into a lean, mean ninja
machine, the loner Raizo, who left that old world of discipline and murder
behind. The script gets away with a "He looks more like a boy band singer" than
a ninja wisecrack only because Rain is so ripped. But that training regimen,
those muscles, don't mean he's giving up the day job.
"I should be able to do both. I plan to concentrate on both" singing and
acting, he says. Always good to have a Plan B, with the chance of trade
publications like Variety ("Rain conjures only a mild drizzle as Raizo")
panning the film and his work in it.
But Rain plans to stick with his game plan, pursuing Hollywood work with a
vengeance. He hopes, too, that this work might even attract the attention of
the most famous director back home. The filmmaker he'd most like to work with?
"Oh, Park Chan-wook" ("Old Boy"), he says.
Re: [scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
You don't know from smell! I grew up in Fort Worth, only a few miles from a large cattle pen that was one of the starts of the famous Chisolm Trail. For years, there was a Swift-Premium plant there, churning out all kinds of sausage and lunch meats. And,thanks to good old-fashioned environmental racism, the city leaders opted to put the new sanitary landfill in my all-black neighborhood--right across the street from my backyard. I remember the years as a child, not understanding the implications of that callous move, watching the tons of trash being dumped into meters-high hills of garbage. And the smell? Oh yeah: that was ripe at times. And a few miles down the road in the other direction was a Purina plant that churned out dog food. So, sausage, dog food, and garbage. Oh yeah: I know about some stench! - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:29:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover If you haven't had the pleasure of smelling that smell, let me tell you it is quite unique. San Francisco had a slaughter house in the Hunter's point area that was there for 50 years. You can still smell the remains of the cattle they killed 20+ years after it closed. Its in the soil and in the mud where it ran off. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kelwyn < ravena...@yahoo.com > wrote: I HATE when this happens! ~rave! Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop The Associated Press updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police have determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial killer. The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or buried in the backyard, authorities said. Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's Sausage Inc. All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial officer of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of the odor. Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the family feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the negative publicity. "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with his sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind them and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell case often pay dearly. Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent grocery stores. Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five counts of aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his home Oct. 29. The ten victims identified were black and many were homeless or living alone and had drug or alcohol addictions. ___ Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33626624/ns/us_news/ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo ! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
I think you'll be happy with the fight scenes, there's a blend of old school
and new but you can definitely follow the fighting. Lots of fun slo-mo.
B
--- On Sun, 11/29/09, Keith Johnson wrote:
From: Keith Johnson
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 1:10 PM
Key question for me. Are the fighting scenes easy to follow, as in most
of the great Hong Kong martial arts flicks, or, are they nothing but closeups
and nonstop camera shifts, a la, much of the American action fare produced
nowadays (G.I. Joe, Second Bourne movie, Quantum of Solace, etc).
If I can't follow the fights from a distance and *see* the movies I'd have to
pass. I spent half of Thanksgiving Day watching a Bruce Lee marathon, in part
because it was so good (the guy is timeless) but also because it was so nice to
see so fight scenes where one could *follow* the action.
- Original Message -
From: "Bosco Bosco"
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:00:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
I saw this the day before Thanksgiving. There's little left to the imagination
from the title. It was 100% fun. Fun fight scenes, cheesey dialogue, blood
everywhere, super bad villians and a hero with a pure true heart. The weapons
are awesome and there is some fullbore hilarity throughout. That dude was in
fact, ripped. Though, I didn't think of him as a badass ever. he has such a
baby/androgenous face. I pretended it was part of his Ninja disguise. If you
like lots of fighting and blood, this one's for you.
Bosco
--- On Sat, 11/28/09, Kelwyn wrote:
From: Kelwyn
Subject: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:28 PM
http://www.utahmovi ereview.com/ index.php? type=story& aid=000838
Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes `Ninja Assassin'
Story by Roger Moore (MCT) - November 24th, 2009
The Korean pop-star-turned- actor Rain (real name Jeong Ji-hoon) is ready for
Hollywood stardom. He's willing to put in the work. He's patient.
"It's still not easy to make your mark, as an Asian actor or singer in
America," Rain says. "If I do my best, Americans will love me, too! I want to
challenge myself to see where my limit is. If I do my best, over and over
again, I will succeed. I know it."
So what if "Speed Racer," the first big Hollywood film the 27-year-old appeared
in, wasn't a smash? He's back, pounding at the door with "Ninja Assassin." He
plays — wait for it — a ninja assassin, or rather an anti-assassin, a former
ninja who defends those targeted by ninjas from the ninjas. And he has suffered
for his art.
"I had to make my body fit, like Bruce Lee," he says. "I trained for eight
months, five days a week, eight hours a day. I ate only chicken breast and
vegetables; no sugar, no salt, none of my favorite foods. It was horrible!
"I learned a bit of many different types of martial arts — kung fu, tae kwon
do, tai chi, kick boxing, karate, karate with swords, chains, shuriken
(throwing stars), kusarigama (dagger-chains) , ninja tactics. The stunt men on
the set, they looked out for me. But with those sharp weapons, I could hurt
myself even more easily than they could hurt me."
It took some doing to sculpt the six-hit-albums singer into a lean, mean ninja
machine, the loner Raizo, who left that old world of discipline and murder
behind. The script gets away with a "He looks more like a boy band singer" than
a ninja wisecrack only because Rain is so ripped. But that training regimen,
those muscles, don't mean he's giving up the day job.
"I should be able to do both. I plan to concentrate on both" singing and
acting, he says. Always good to have a Plan B, with the chance of trade
publications like Variety ("Rain conjures only a mild drizzle as Raizo")
panning the film and his work in it.
But Rain plans to stick with his game plan, pursuing Hollywood work with a
vengeance. He hopes, too, that this work might even attract the attention of
the most famous director back home. The filmmaker he'd most like to work with?
"Oh, Park Chan-wook" ("Old Boy"), he says.
Re: [scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
If you haven't had the pleasure of smelling that smell, let me tell you it is quite unique. San Francisco had a slaughter house in the Hunter's point area that was there for 50 years. You can still smell the remains of the cattle they killed 20+ years after it closed. Its in the soil and in the mud where it ran off. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > I HATE when this happens! ~rave! > > Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop > > The Associated Press > > updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 > > CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten > neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police have > determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial killer. > > The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony > Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or buried > in the backyard, authorities said. > > Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's Sausage > Inc. > > All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial officer > of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing > fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of the > odor. > > Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the family > feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. > > Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the > Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the negative > publicity. > > "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find > something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with his > sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. > > Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind them > and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. > > Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in > Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell case > often pay dearly. > > Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a > great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in > Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent grocery > stores. > > Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five counts of > aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted > murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his home > Oct. 29. > > The ten victims identified were black and many were homeless or living > alone and had drug or alcohol addictions. > > ___ > > Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com > > Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may > not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. > URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33626624/ns/us_news/ > > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] New Moon: Hooking up's gender gap
www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi oped1129hookupnov29,0,6779200.story chicagotribune.com Hooking up's gender gap Men make the rules on sex today By Jonathan Zimmerman November 29, 2009 Hey, do you want to hook up? If you're like lots of American high school and college students, the answer is clearly "yes." But when you look at the reasons, you'll find an enormous gender divide. Girls have sex in order to score a boyfriend, and boys simply want to score. And the boys are winning. That explains the overwhelming success of Stephenie Meyer's "Twilight" teenage books, as well as the most recent film adaptation, "The Twilight Saga: New Moon," which sold a whopping $140.7 million in tickets in its first weekend in North American theaters. An estimated 80 percent of the viewers were female, and half the audience was under the age of 21. Why are young American women flocking to a movie where the hero -- a hunky dude named Edward, who also happens to be a vampire -- refuses to have sex with the heroine-loner Bella, lest he harm her with his supernatural powers? The answer lies in a University of Missouri survey of 4,000 "Twilight" fans. And it's not that complicated: Girls want love, not just sex. "This series represents a backlash to the 'hooking up' culture," explained one author of the study. " 'Twilight' has been a way for young girls to acknowledge their emerging sexuality without actually having sex." In other words, it's a female fantasy. It's also every boy's nightmare. After all, the hooking-up deal works pretty well for guys. Lots and lots of sex, without all that messy relationship stuff? What's not to like? On this not-so-delicate subject, I've heard plenty of my 40- and 50-something male peers complain that they were born several decades too early. But I have never, ever heard a woman say she'd prefer today's hooking-up system to the dating rituals we grew up with. Remember dating? As quaint as is it might sound today, dating required you to get to know a girl before you did anything else. The goal might be the same -- indeed, it often was the same -- but you had to follow several distinct steps to get there. That was far better for girls, who could decide if they liked a guy before physical intimacy began. Now, the order is reversed: You hook up first, then decide if you want to "go out." And it turns out -- surprise, surprise -- that most guys don't want the second part, so long as they get the first. "They're in college, they don't want a girlfriend," one female college student told La Salle University sociologist Kathleen Bogle. "They basically just want to get (sex)." So why do women put up with this? As Bogle explains in her book, "Hooking Up: Sex, Dating and Relationships on Campus," part of the reason is that they overestimate the frequency of sex among their peers. Nationwide, about one-quarter of college students remain virgins. So when women presume that "everybody is doing it" -- so they need to do it too -- they're wrong. Moreover, "it" can mean many different things. In one survey at a large northeastern university, 78 percent of students had "hooked up" at least once. But among those students, only 38 percent reported a hook-up that culminated in sexual intercourse. The rest had kissed, groped or engaged in oral sex without going all the way. No matter what you call it, though, many women feel that they must engage in a certain degree of sexual activity to have any hope of finding a boyfriend -- or, down the road, a husband. They well understand that most hookups will not lead to the type of relationship that they really want. But they just don't see any other way to get there. It doesn't help that women outnumber men on most college campuses, where there are about 80 men for every 100 women. So men are the scarce resource, and they get to make the rules. And they know it, too. "No real commitment, no real feelings involved, this is like a guy's paradise," Bogle said one male student told her. "I mean this is what guys have been wanting for many, many years. And women have always resisted, but now they are going along with it." The male student is right. Since the sexual revolution of the 1960s, women have made enormous strides in education, income and professional achievement. But when it comes to sex, it's still a man's world. And that's why young women are celebrating an imaginary one, in the movies, where the guy actually loves you before he makes love to you. Even if he is a vampire. Jonathan Zimmerman teaches history and education at New York University. He is the author of "Small Wonder: The Little Red Schoolhouse in History and Memory." Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune
[scifinoir2] Stirred but not shaken: 007 saves the day - in a Toyota Camry
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/world/AP/story/1352928.html Posted on Thu, Nov. 26, 2009 Afghanistan's James Bond: suave killer who drives a Toyota Camry By DION NISSENBAUM McClatchy Newspapers The television set crackles with breaking news: Terrorists have smuggled a nuclear bomb into Kabul and are preparing to take out the Afghan capital. There is panic and pandemonium. Facing imminent immolation, the nation's leaders turn to the only man who can save Kabul: Afghanistan's first modern day James Bond. Hollywood may have plans to set part of the next James Bond film in Afghanistan, but Kabul already has its own 007. His favored drink is thick Turkish coffee, not a vodka martini. He speeds across the movie screen in a Toyota Camry, not an Aston Martin. And Afghanistan's 007 has no on-screen love interest. But "Nijat" - the Dari world for "savior" - kills with the same suave efficiency as Sean Connery, Roger Moore and Daniel Craig. Afghanistan's 007 is the newest incarnation in the nation's scrappy, low-budget film industry still struggling to recover from years of Taliban repression. If all goes as planned, "Nijat" will debut next year as part of the fifth annual Kabul International Documentary and Short Film Festival. "Afghanistan's film industry is coming out of the ashes," said Sonia Nassery Cole, an Afghan-American filmmaker currently in Kabul, where she is directing "Black Tulip," a motion picture about modern life in this volatile nation. Afghanistan's movie industry was crippled by years under Taliban rules that barred films and shuttered cinemas. Even though U.S.-led forces toppled the Taliban government in 2001, filmmakers in Afghanistan still face unenviable challenges. The deadly blast from a suicide car bomber targeting the NATO headquarters in Kabul last month seriously damaged the nearby movie set for a biographic film about Rumi, the region's celebrated 13th century Sufi poet. The ongoing Taliban insurgency makes it impossible to film in large parts of the country. And the Afghanistan government, beset by corruption and nearly overwhelmed by Taliban fighters, offers little support for the country's underdeveloped film industry. Last year, the Afghan government banned theaters from showing "The Kite Runner" because of concerns that the Hollywood movie's stark depiction of a Pashtun boy raping a Hazara boy would inflame ethnic tensions. Filmmakers became so worried about the fallout that they delayed release of the film so they could spirit the four child stars out of Afghanistan. "We are sandwiched between the Taliban and the government," said Latif Ahmadi, director of Afghanistan's state-run film commission, whose office windows were blown out by the October attack on the NATO headquarters across the road. Ahmadi said he received about $50,000 from the Afghan government to make his film about Rumi. But he quickly ran out of cash and has shelved the film while he searches for more money. Like the Rumi movie, Afghanistan's new James Bond film is decidedly low-budget. The filmmakers used jury-rigged firecrackers and packets of red ink to simulate shootings. Sympathetic diplomats have agreed to let the filmmakers transform their gated embassy into the headquarters of the fictional Afghanistan Secret Service. And Afghanistan's 007 nearly crushed the movie screenwriter with his Camry when he confused the accelerator for the brake after a long day of filming. But "Nijat" is something more than a short action film. The film's star is Qaseem Elmi, a quiet, 26-year-old entrepreneur who runs a small media production company in Kabul. As the son of a police officer who worked for the Moscow-installed government in the 1980s, Elmi fled to Pakistan with his family when the Soviet forces withdrew in 1989. Elmi spent his first eight months as a refugee living in a tent and kissed the ground when he returned to Afghanistan in 2002 after U.S.-led forces toppled the Taliban rulers. Elmi started a Kabul computer business, worked for Afghan President Hamid Karzai's senior economic adviser and produced Andy Warhol-style campaign posters for one of the two female candidates in the recent presidential election. The Bond-inspired film evolved as a side-project while Elmi and his partners were waiting for the delayed arrival of fiberglass "dome homes" that they hope NATO will buy to replace chilly military tents. Elmi doesn't want moviegoers to simply see Nijat as an action hero. He sees the Afghanistan Bond as a role model for his fractured country. "I hope any kid or any soldier who watches this will think: 'Can I be like that?' " Elmi said while smoking one of Nijat's signature cigarettes. "'If I get a job that big, can I save my country?'
[scifinoir2] 'Precious' divides among black viewers
www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-tc-arts-precious-1125-1129nov29,0,7481546.story chicagotribune.com COMMENTARY 'Precious' divides among black viewers By Erin Aubry Kaplan Special to Tribune Newspapers November 29, 2009 Long before it opened, "Precious: Based on the Novel 'Push' by Sapphire" had racked up the plaudits for its groundbreaking depiction of the inner life of an overweight, ghetto-dwelling black teenage girl. But since the film's release, a story-outside-the-story has developed that's equally fresh and complicated: black people's reaction to the movie and what it means. Verdicts about high-pitched movies from black viewers and public figures are usually swift and decisive -- "Do the Right Thing," "The Color Purple" and the recent Robert Downey Jr. vehicle "Tropic Thunder" come to mind. But that hasn't happened this time. That's partly because the embrace of "Precious" by the white film establishment has been a bit disorienting for black folk, even off-putting. But it's also because the tough stuff in "Precious," regardless of whether you like the movie, is striking chords of recognition for many black people that are making them not angry or enthusiastic but uncertain. That's new territory. The many issues raised in the course of this one story -- class tensions, self-image, racial progress, how Hollywood bears on all of the above -- have hit black viewers squarely in the gut, rendering the usual arguments about stereotypes inadequate. Not everybody is buying into the nuance. The unrelenting inner-city misery that frames "Precious," including a foul-mouthed welfare mother and an absentee father, has raised plenty of alarms among blacks, notably film critic Armond White. In his review for the New York Press, the famously curmudgeonly White excoriated "Precious" for being an "orgy of prurience," "a Klansman's fantasy," racist propaganda cast from the infamous mold of "Birth of a Nation." For White, "Precious" is bad art because it is a bad representation, a reminder that for black people, art and politics are inseparable. "We just don't want to see black pathology onscreen," says T. Denean Sharpley-Whiting, a professor of critical race studies and hip-hop at Vanderbilt University. "There's clearly a segment of us that worries about what white people think." That worry, she says, is usually about representations of the black poor, a group that's long been an anathema to whites -- and to some blacks as well. Richard Yarborough, an associate professor of English and African-American Studies at UCLA, says the movie can be difficult to watch because, "The abject degradation of black people in 'Precious' is as close as you can get to a modern film that may be similar to a film about slavery." He points out that slave-era films like "Beloved" and " Amistad" didn't do well at the box office, and those were mainstream movies with big budgets and established directors. Those movies also presented widespread black exploitation and oppression as phenomena of the past. "If people aren't going to see slavery in a historical context, why would they go see a movie about slavery in a modern context?" Yarborough says. Still, "Precious" grossed an impressive $11 million on 629 screens last weekend. But an enduring truth about the movie business is that even a widely acclaimed black movie made by blacks doesn't guarantee that another one will be made. "What Spike Lee was doing in the '80s was more challenging and visionary" than "Precious," says Todd Boyd, a professor of critical studies at USC's School of Cinematic Arts. "He's still working. ... But nobody talks about Spike anymore. With features, it's about the money vehicles now, like what Tyler Perry is doing. The days of the small 'impact' film are over." Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune
[scifinoir2] Blamed for smell tied to killings, sausage shop looks to recover
I HATE when this happens! ~rave! Cleveland bodies case hard on nearby sausage shop The Associated Press updated 3:55 p.m. CT, Sat., Nov . 28, 2009 CLEVELAND - The owners of a sausage shop once blamed for a rotten neighborhood stench said they are trying to regroup now that police have determined the odor was coming from the home of an alleged serial killer. The remains of 11 women were found this month in the home of Anthony Sowell, who strangled the women and left their bodies in his house or buried in the backyard, authorities said. Neighbors had blamed the odor on a broken sewer or the nearby Ray's Sausage Inc. All the talk was hard on morale, said Leslie Cash, chief financial officer of the family owned business, which had spent $20,000 on new plumbing fixtures, sewer lines and grease traps, thinking that might get rid of the odor. Now that Sowell is behind bars and the stench is gone, Cash said the family feels vindicated but also grieves for the victims. Three weeks ago, when police and FBI agents searched Sowell's home, the Cash family feared the sausage business would suffer amid all the negative publicity. "I thought it was going to be the end and I was going to have to find something else to do," said Raymond Cash Jr., who owns the company with his sister, Renee Cash. Their father started the business in 1952. Family members said they are eager to put the Sowell episode behind them and move on. Sales, they said, haven't slipped. Larry Smith, president of the Institute for Crisis Management in Louisville, Ky., said companies disrupted by turmoil like the Sowell case often pay dearly. Ray's Sausage should be fine because it makes a good product and has a great reputation, said Kevin Patton, a salesman for Hillandale Farms in Akron, which distributes Ray's souse to Wal-Mart and independent grocery stores. Sowell, 50, a registered sex offender, has been charged with five counts of aggravated murder and, separately, with rape, kidnapping and attempted murder in an alleged Sept. 22 attack that prompted police to search his home Oct. 29. The ten victims identified were black and many were homeless or living alone and had drug or alcohol addictions. ___ Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33626624/ns/us_news/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: [holdstock-l] Sad news
Awful news. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: holdstoc...@yahoogroups.com From: ahar...@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:33:30 -0500 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: [holdstock-l] Sad news ahar...@earthlink.net This is horribly tragic news. What a profound loss! Condolences. HE WILL BE MISSED! Amy Subject: [holdstock-l] Sad news > Dear all, > > At 4 o'clock this morning Rob Holdstock passed away. > > He had been in intensive care since the 18th of November when he > collapsed due to an E. coli infection. > > I'm heartsick to have lost a dear friend. > > My sincere sympathies to his partner Sarah Biggs and both their families. > > Rob was one of the best fantasy writers of his generation, and was a man > with a huge appetite for life. I'm deeply saddened that he has been > taken from us so soon at only 61 years old. > > Maura > > > > > > The Robert Holdstock Web Site: > http://robertholdstock.comYahoo! Groups Links > > > _ Windows 7: It works the way you want. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen:112009v2
Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star ge ts ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
Key question for me. Are the fighting scenes easy to follow, as in most of the
great Hong Kong martial arts flicks, or, are they nothing but closeups and
nonstop camera shifts, a la, much of the American action fare produced nowadays
(G.I. Joe, Second Bourne movie, Quantum of Solace, etc).
If I can't follow the fights from a distance and *see* the movies I'd have to
pass. I spent half of Thanksgiving Day watching a Bruce Lee marathon, in part
because it was so good (the guy is timeless) but also because it was so nice to
see so fight scenes where one could *follow* the action.
- Original Message -
From: "Bosco Bosco"
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:00:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
I saw this the day before Thanksgiving. There's little left to the imagination
from the title. It was 100% fun. Fun fight scenes, cheesey dialogue, blood
everywhere, super bad villians and a hero with a pure true heart. The weapons
are awesome and there is some fullbore hilarity throughout. That dude was in
fact, ripped. Though, I didn't think of him as a badass ever. he has such a
baby/androgenous face. I pretended it was part of his Ninja disguise. If you
like lots of fighting and blood, this one's for you.
Bosco
--- On Sat, 11/28/09, Kelwyn wrote:
From: Kelwyn
Subject: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:28 PM
http://www.utahmovi ereview.com/ index.php? type=story& aid=000838
Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes `Ninja Assassin'
Story by Roger Moore (MCT) - November 24th, 2009
The Korean pop-star-turned- actor Rain (real name Jeong Ji-hoon) is ready for
Hollywood stardom. He's willing to put in the work. He's patient.
"It's still not easy to make your mark, as an Asian actor or singer in
America," Rain says. "If I do my best, Americans will love me, too! I want to
challenge myself to see where my limit is. If I do my best, over and over
again, I will succeed. I know it."
So what if "Speed Racer," the first big Hollywood film the 27-year-old appeared
in, wasn't a smash? He's back, pounding at the door with "Ninja Assassin." He
plays — wait for it — a ninja assassin, or rather an anti-assassin, a former
ninja who defends those targeted by ninjas from the ninjas. And he has suffered
for his art.
"I had to make my body fit, like Bruce Lee," he says. "I trained for eight
months, five days a week, eight hours a day. I ate only chicken breast and
vegetables; no sugar, no salt, none of my favorite foods. It was horrible!
"I learned a bit of many different types of martial arts — kung fu, tae kwon
do, tai chi, kick boxing, karate, karate with swords, chains, shuriken
(throwing stars), kusarigama (dagger-chains) , ninja tactics. The stunt men on
the set, they looked out for me. But with those sharp weapons, I could hurt
myself even more easily than they could hurt me."
It took some doing to sculpt the six-hit-albums singer into a lean, mean ninja
machine, the loner Raizo, who left that old world of discipline and murder
behind. The script gets away with a "He looks more like a boy band singer" than
a ninja wisecrack only because Rain is so ripped. But that training regimen,
those muscles, don't mean he's giving up the day job.
"I should be able to do both. I plan to concentrate on both" singing and
acting, he says. Always good to have a Plan B, with the chance of trade
publications like Variety ("Rain conjures only a mild drizzle as Raizo")
panning the film and his work in it.
But Rain plans to stick with his game plan, pursuing Hollywood work with a
vengeance. He hopes, too, that this work might even attract the attention of
the most famous director back home. The filmmaker he'd most like to work with?
"Oh, Park Chan-wook" ("Old Boy"), he says.
[scifinoir2] Re: [holdstock-l] Sad news
ahar...@earthlink.net This is horribly tragic news. What a profound loss! Condolences. HE WILL BE MISSED! Amy Subject: [holdstock-l] Sad news > Dear all, > > At 4 o'clock this morning Rob Holdstock passed away. > > He had been in intensive care since the 18th of November when he > collapsed due to an E. coli infection. > > I'm heartsick to have lost a dear friend. > > My sincere sympathies to his partner Sarah Biggs and both their families. > > Rob was one of the best fantasy writers of his generation, and was a man > with a huge appetite for life. I'm deeply saddened that he has been > taken from us so soon at only 61 years old. > > Maura > > > > > > The Robert Holdstock Web Site: > http://robertholdstock.comYahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
I saw this the day before Thanksgiving. There's little left to the imagination
from the title. It was 100% fun. Fun fight scenes, cheesey dialogue, blood
everywhere, super bad villians and a hero with a pure true heart. The weapons
are awesome and there is some fullbore hilarity throughout. That dude was in
fact, ripped. Though, I didn't think of him as a badass ever. he has such a
baby/androgenous face. I pretended it was part of his Ninja disguise. If you
like lots of fighting and blood, this one's for you.
Bosco
--- On Sat, 11/28/09, Kelwyn wrote:
From: Kelwyn
Subject: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 28, 2009, 5:28 PM
http://www.utahmovi ereview.com/ index.php? type=story& aid=000838
Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes `Ninja Assassin'
Story by Roger Moore (MCT) - November 24th, 2009
The Korean pop-star-turned- actor Rain (real name Jeong Ji-hoon) is ready for
Hollywood stardom. He's willing to put in the work. He's patient.
"It's still not easy to make your mark, as an Asian actor or singer in
America," Rain says. "If I do my best, Americans will love me, too! I want to
challenge myself to see where my limit is. If I do my best, over and over
again, I will succeed. I know it."
So what if "Speed Racer," the first big Hollywood film the 27-year-old appeared
in, wasn't a smash? He's back, pounding at the door with "Ninja Assassin." He
plays — wait for it — a ninja assassin, or rather an anti-assassin, a former
ninja who defends those targeted by ninjas from the ninjas. And he has suffered
for his art.
"I had to make my body fit, like Bruce Lee," he says. "I trained for eight
months, five days a week, eight hours a day. I ate only chicken breast and
vegetables; no sugar, no salt, none of my favorite foods. It was horrible!
"I learned a bit of many different types of martial arts — kung fu, tae kwon
do, tai chi, kick boxing, karate, karate with swords, chains, shuriken
(throwing stars), kusarigama (dagger-chains) , ninja tactics. The stunt men on
the set, they looked out for me. But with those sharp weapons, I could hurt
myself even more easily than they could hurt me."
It took some doing to sculpt the six-hit-albums singer into a lean, mean ninja
machine, the loner Raizo, who left that old world of discipline and murder
behind. The script gets away with a "He looks more like a boy band singer" than
a ninja wisecrack only because Rain is so ripped. But that training regimen,
those muscles, don't mean he's giving up the day job.
"I should be able to do both. I plan to concentrate on both" singing and
acting, he says. Always good to have a Plan B, with the chance of trade
publications like Variety ("Rain conjures only a mild drizzle as Raizo")
panning the film and his work in it.
But Rain plans to stick with his game plan, pursuing Hollywood work with a
vengeance. He hopes, too, that this work might even attract the attention of
the most famous director back home. The filmmaker he'd most like to work with?
"Oh, Park Chan-wook" ("Old Boy"), he says.
Re: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, become s ‘Ninja Assassin’
We shall see if its worth it...
On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Martin Baxter
wrote:
>
>
> That kind of dedication to one's work does my old heart good.
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: ravena...@yahoo.com
> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:28:03 +
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes ‘Ninja Assassin’
>
>
> http://www.utahmoviereview.com/index.php?type=story&aid=000838
>
> Korean pop star gets ripped, becomes `Ninja Assassin'
>
> Story by Roger Moore (MCT) - November 24th, 2009
>
> The Korean pop-star-turned-actor Rain (real name Jeong Ji-hoon) is ready
> for Hollywood stardom. He's willing to put in the work. He's patient.
>
> "It's still not easy to make your mark, as an Asian actor or singer in
> America," Rain says. "If I do my best, Americans will love me, too! I want
> to challenge myself to see where my limit is. If I do my best, over and over
> again, I will succeed. I know it."
>
> So what if "Speed Racer," the first big Hollywood film the 27-year-old
> appeared in, wasn't a smash? He's back, pounding at the door with "Ninja
> Assassin." He plays — wait for it — a ninja assassin, or rather an
> anti-assassin, a former ninja who defends those targeted by ninjas from the
> ninjas. And he has suffered for his art.
>
> "I had to make my body fit, like Bruce Lee," he says. "I trained for eight
> months, five days a week, eight hours a day. I ate only chicken breast and
> vegetables; no sugar, no salt, none of my favorite foods. It was horrible!
>
> "I learned a bit of many different types of martial arts — kung fu, tae
> kwon do, tai chi, kick boxing, karate, karate with swords, chains, shuriken
> (throwing stars), kusarigama (dagger-chains), ninja tactics. The stunt men
> on the set, they looked out for me. But with those sharp weapons, I could
> hurt myself even more easily than they could hurt me."
>
> It took some doing to sculpt the six-hit-albums singer into a lean, mean
> ninja machine, the loner Raizo, who left that old world of discipline and
> murder behind. The script gets away with a "He looks more like a boy band
> singer" than a ninja wisecrack only because Rain is so ripped. But that
> training regimen, those muscles, don't mean he's giving up the day job.
>
> "I should be able to do both. I plan to concentrate on both" singing and
> acting, he says. Always good to have a Plan B, with the chance of trade
> publications like Variety ("Rain conjures only a mild drizzle as Raizo")
> panning the film and his work in it.
>
> But Rain plans to stick with his game plan, pursuing Hollywood work with a
> vengeance. He hopes, too, that this work might even attract the attention of
> the most famous director back home. The filmmaker he'd most like to work
> with?
>
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