[scifinoir2] More music business madness

[Mr. Worf]

According to the December 09 issue of EQ magazine ASCAP and BMI are going to
start charging online businesses for the 30 second previews of songs that
allow people to listen to a song before purchasing it. Of course that extra
charge will be passed on to the customer.

So just listening to a preview of a song is considered a "Public
Performance." Does this make any sense to anyone? Next they'll be charging
for movie previews...


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RE: [scifinoir2] More music business madness

[Martin Baxter]

No, Mr Worf, it doesn't. And, in all honesty, it's why I've changed my stance 
on file-sharing networks. I used to agree with musicians and music companies, 
that they were outright theft of property. But, since they seem copacetic with 
the idea of stealing from us as readily...

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: bombcherryju...@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:02:39 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] More music business madness


















 



  



  
  
  According to the December 09 issue of EQ magazine ASCAP and BMI are going 
to start charging online businesses for the 30 second previews of songs that 
allow people to listen to a song before purchasing it. Of course that extra 
charge will be passed on to the customer. 


So just listening to a preview of a song is considered a "Public Performance." 
Does this make any sense to anyone? Next they'll be charging for movie 
previews...

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RE: [scifinoir2] 15 films that hurt Black America

[Martin Baxter]

Whew... that IS bad.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:40:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 15 films that hurt Black America


















 



  



  
  
  Its such a bad movie that even BET stopped playing it. :)


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Martin Baxter  
wrote:


























Mr Worf, that was wall-to-wall pain. Hurt my neck because I flinched so hard 
when "Soul Plane" came up.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:49:49 -0800
Subject: [scifinoir2] 15 films that hurt Black America


















 



  



  
  
  
http://www.thegrio.com/entertainment/slideshows-films-that-made-the-worst-impact-on-african-americans.php




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RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student Writing a Term Pa

[brent wodehouse]

I do know that it can be quite difficult to discover the perfect gateway
YA science fiction series as so many are very poor entertainment. Have you
considered the group of YA Alexander Key novels (of which 'Escape to Witch
Mountain' is a stand-out example)? I recall them fondly for their engaging
escapism; great fun for the young reader. They do tend to the paranormal
sci-fi element somewhat, I'm afraid, but not overmuch. Besides, in my
case, it's this very aspect that, at the outset, appealed to me immensely.

So, give them a go and see what results. You can't go wrong for trying.
And good luck.:-)


Brent


Martin Baxter  did write:

>Brent, I'd love to help the young man, but I'm still trying to draw all
>of the young minds I can access (younger cousins and my youngest nephew)
>into SF, unsuccessfully so far.
>
>"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
>bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>---
>
>To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; scifinoir_...@yahoogroups.com;
>carlbran...@yahoogroups.com
>From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us
>Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:26:29 -0500
>Subject: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student
>Writing a Term Paper
>
> 
>Subj: College Student Writing a Term Paper
>From: Jared Guild 
>Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:15 am
>
>Greetings,
>
>My name is Jared Guild and I attend a California college by the name of
>Chapman University (Brandman University) which I am currently in my last
>quarter and will graduate in May with my Bachelors Degree in Liberal
>Studies. I am writing a term paper on the affects of Science Fiction and
>Fantasy books on the imagination of children. I am writing you this email
>because I got your name from an author by the name of Julie E. Czerneda. I
>am looking for information that is in the area of Science Fiction and
>Fantasy with regard to stimulating children's imagination. If you have any
>information that would be useful I am looking for any kind of case study
>that has been done or any publications with regard to my paper. If you
>have
>any books that have been published with information I could always make a
>trip to a library. If you know of anybody else I should contact who might
>be able to help me out as well that would be appreciated. Thank you for
>your time and any help that you might provide.
>
>A Young Mind,
>
>Jared Guild
>

[scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M

[brent wodehouse]

http://jam.canoe.ca/Books/2010/02/25/13031036-ap.html

Batman's debut comic sold for $1M

By Jamie Stengle, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


DALLAS - A 1939 comic book in which Batman makes his debut sold at auction
Thursday for more than $1 million, breaking a record set just three days
earlier by a Superman comic, Heritage Auction Galleries said.

The Dallas-based auction house said the rare copy of Detective Comics No.
27 sold for a total of $1,075,500, which includes the buyer's premium, to
a buyer who wished to remain anonymous. The consigner wanted to remain
anonymous as well.

"It pretty much blew away all of our expectations and now it's the highest
price ever raised for a comic book," said Barry Sandoval, director of
operations of Heritage's comics division.

A copy of the first comic book featuring Superman, a 1938 edition of
Action Comics No. 1, sold Monday for $1 million in a sale between a
private seller and a private buyer, with the transaction conducted by the
New York City auction site ComicConnect.com.

"We can really say that Batman has nosed out Superman, at least for now,"
Sandoval said.

He said the consigner had bought the Batman comic in the late 1960s for
$100. With a bright yellow background, the comic features Batman swinging
on a rope above city rooftops.

"That cover is just one of the most famous of all comic book covers,"
Sandoval said.

J.C. Vaughn, associate publisher of The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide,
said most people had predicted it would be the comics with the first
appearance of Superman and Batman that broke the $1 million barrier. Both
comics that sold this week were in great condition - scoring an 8.0 on a
scale that goes up to 10, he said.

"I think that you can greenly ascribe this to a real comfort with the
liquidity of rare, high grade vintage collectibles," Vaughn said.

George Pantela, owner of Melbourne, Australia-based GP Analysis, which
tracks sales of certified comics from more than 20 auction houses and
dealers, said the previous record was about $317,000 paid a year ago for a
lesser grade Action Comics No. 1 than the one sold this week.

Vincent Zurzolo, chief operating officer of Comicconnect.com, took the
breaking of their record in stride.

"It's an exciting week in comic books when you have two comics selling for
$1 million," he said.

-

On the Net:

Heritage Auction Galleries: http://www.ha.com

[scifinoir2] "La Femme Musketeer" on Hallmark Movie Channel

[Keith Johnson]

Ever seen this one? I was scanning channels and caught it on the Hallmark Movie 
Channel. A pretty respectable cast. It has a decided Hercules/Xeni feeling to 
it. The concept of a female Musketeer is complete rubbish of course (to quote 
one reviewer), but like those shows, it's good throwaway fun. Not sure yet 
about the swordplay: there's been little of it, and the action i have seen so 
far was just a bit fast-paced. Still, I am a sucker for any kind of sword work, 
so I'll give it a go! 

Interestingly, it was filmed in Croatia: man, between SyFy and other, the 
former Eastern Bloc nations are home to a *lot* of movies nowadays! 

** 
http://www.hallmarkmoviechannel.com/SPP/Default.aspx?SppID=165 




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Femme_Musketeer 




La Femme Musketeer is a made for television movie produced by Hallmark 
Entertainment and Larry Levinson Productions, filmed on Draguć in Croatia . It 
originally premiered on June 20, 2004 on Hallmark Channel . Plot summary 


The legend of Jacques D'Artagnan ( Michael York ) gets a gender-bending update 
in this swashbuckling adventure. Though legendary swordsman Jacques 
D'Artagnan's best days may be well behind him, he has schooled his daughter 
Valentine ( Susie Amy ) well in the way of the sword. Now it's time for 
Valentine to strike out on her own. With her father's sword and a letter of 
introduction to Commander Finot ( Roy Dotrice ), the eager young novice sets 
out to seek her fortune in Paris. Though a woman has never before been 
appointed the rank of swordsman, Valentine is determined to prove her worth by 
taking on a deadly mission to rescue the bride-to-be of King Louis XIV from a 
band of fearsome kidnappers, teaming with the sons of the legendary musketeers 
who rode with her father. 
Cast 

• Kristina Krepela ... Maria Theresa of Spain 
• Freddie Sayers ... King Louis 
• Clemency Burton-Hill ... Marie Mancini 
• Gérard Depardieu ... Cardinal Mazarin 
• Marcus Jean Pirae ... Villeroi 
• Nastassja Kinski ... Lady Bolton 
• Constantine Gregory ... Planchet 
• Michael York ... D'Artagnan 
• Susie Amy ... Valentine D'Artagnan 
• John Rhys-Davies ... Porthos 
• Andrew Musselman ... Antoine Porthos 
• Christopher Cazenove ... Athos 
• Casper Zafer ... Gaston Athos 
• Allan Corduner ... Aramis 
• Niko Nicotera ... Etienne Aramis 

Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol

[Keith Johnson]

Well I'm still trying to understand Curling and Synchronized Swimming... 

I'm really old school. To me, the Olympics should be about contests that 
directly relate to fighting, escape, warfare: running, hitting, wrestling, 
hurling weapons. Frankly, I wish the Summer Games would add more martial arts 
like tae kwon do, and maybe expand swordplay past just fencing. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:38:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and 
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol 






You gotta love that. Its a very creative past time, but I'm not really sure if 
it will become a sport or not. 


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Augustus Augustus < jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com > 
wrote: 






Talk about MUST SEE TV! 

Fate. 



Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics 











BY Rosemary Black 
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER 

Tuesday, February 23rd 2010, 2:39 PM 
Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot at winning an 
Olympic medal.

USPoleDance. com Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot 
at winning an Olympic medal. 


Related News 




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The strip club mainstay pole dancing - known as much for its sensual moves as 
its rigorous athletic side - may be headed for the Olympics. 

A group of pole-dance advocates is hoping for a "test" event in 2012 and a more 
formal pitch four years after that, in Rio de Janeiro , according to The 
Associated Press . 

KT Coates , a prominent pole dancer in England and director of Vertical Dance, 
is leading the Olympic push. 

"After a great deal of feedback from the pole-dance community, many of us have 
decided that it’s about time pole fitness is recognized as a competitive sport, 
and what better way for recognition than to be part of the 2012 Olympics held 
in London ," she said in a petition she’s preparing for organizers of the 
London Olympics. 

Coates added that the prospective sport "has the wow factor." 

While her petition now has about 4,000 signatures, she is hoping to add 1,000 
more. 

Advocates of pole dancing say other even more unlikely sports have gotten the 
approval of the International Olympic Committee . Tug of war was an early 
Olympic medal contest, and curling is now huge at the Winter Games. 

Yet, well-established sports like cricket and squash haven’t managed to get a 
spot for themselves at the Olympics, and baseball and softball recently got the 
ax. The International Olympic Community would need to recognize pole dancing as 
a sport, which could prove to be an uphill battle. 

But pole-dance enthusiasts are hopeful about their chances to go for the gold. 

"It’s just a matter of time before pole dancing gets Olympic recognition," says 
Ania Przeplasko of Hong Kong , founder of the International Pole Dancing 
Fitness Association . 

"There will be a day when the Olympics see pole dancing as a sport," she told 
The Associated Press. "The Olympic community needs to acknowledge the number of 
people doing pole fitness now. We’re shooting for 2012." 

Some dancers aren’t so sure about pole dancing at the Olympics because they 
worry that the sensual aspect of the discipline would be destroyed, and that 
old-school pole dancers might be pushed aside by gymnasts, circus performers 
and Chinese acrobats who could easily pick up the moves. 

"I don’t need to see pole dancing in the Olympics," U.S. Pole Dance Federation 
co-founder Wendy Traskos said. "I don’t think this is necessarily the path that 
we need to take, as a sport." 

But Traskos notes that the notion of pole dancers competing for Olympic medals 
isn’t as farfetched as it was five years ago. 

"Now, when you talk about it you don’t hear 'like a stripper' anymore," Traskos 
said. "You hear things like, 'Oh, my friend takes classes for fitnees' or 'Yes, 
I've seen it on ' Oprah .' " 
Related Topics 


Read more: http://www.nydailyn ews.com/lifestyl e/2010/02/ 23/2010-02- 
23_pole_dancing_ could_be_ recognized_ as_a_sport_ and_headed_ to_the_olympics_ 
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Re: [scifinoir2] More music business madness

[Keith Johnson]

I am currently buying music from iTunes with a gift card from my wife. I can't 
imagine what I'd do if I had to pay for the privilege to preview a song. Oh 
wait: yes I do--I'd simply find the songs through other means... 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: "bombcherryjuice"  
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:02:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] More music business madness 






According to the December 09 issue of EQ magazine ASCAP and BMI are going to 
start charging online businesses for the 30 second previews of songs that allow 
people to listen to a song before purchasing it. Of course that extra charge 
will be passed on to the customer. 

So just listening to a preview of a song is considered a "Public Performance." 
Does this make any sense to anyone? Next they'll be charging for movie 
previews... 


-- 
Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 
Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 

RE: [scifinoir2] "La Femme Musketeer" on Hallmark Movie Channel

[Martin Baxter]

I just came in the door, Keith, and there's nothing on there but the usual 
Hallmark fare, so I take it that I've missed it. I'll keep an eye out for it. 
Have you ever seen Peter Hyams' "The Musketeer"? It's a crazy East-meets-West 
melange of action, wrapped around a paper-thin plot which elevates D'Artangan 
to the sole focus of the thing and relegates all the rest of the Musketeers to 
second-banana status. (Oh, and makes D'Artangan part-007, too, thanks to a 
wagonload of gadgets and a scruffy-looking Q.)

As for the Balkans being the location of so many Skiffy and Skiffy-type flicks? 
That's EuroCanada, home of low production values.
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M

[Martin Baxter]

(sighing heavily while banging skull against wall...)

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:36:07 -0500
Subject: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M


















 



  



  
  
  http://jam.canoe.ca/Books/2010/02/25/13031036-ap.html



Batman's debut comic sold for $1M



By Jamie Stengle, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS



DALLAS - A 1939 comic book in which Batman makes his debut sold at auction

Thursday for more than $1 million, breaking a record set just three days

earlier by a Superman comic, Heritage Auction Galleries said.



The Dallas-based auction house said the rare copy of Detective Comics No.

27 sold for a total of $1,075,500, which includes the buyer's premium, to

a buyer who wished to remain anonymous. The consigner wanted to remain

anonymous as well.



"It pretty much blew away all of our expectations and now it's the highest

price ever raised for a comic book," said Barry Sandoval, director of

operations of Heritage's comics division.



A copy of the first comic book featuring Superman, a 1938 edition of

Action Comics No. 1, sold Monday for $1 million in a sale between a

private seller and a private buyer, with the transaction conducted by the

New York City auction site ComicConnect.com.



"We can really say that Batman has nosed out Superman, at least for now,"

Sandoval said.



He said the consigner had bought the Batman comic in the late 1960s for

$100. With a bright yellow background, the comic features Batman swinging

on a rope above city rooftops.



"That cover is just one of the most famous of all comic book covers,"

Sandoval said.



J.C. Vaughn, associate publisher of The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide,

said most people had predicted it would be the comics with the first

appearance of Superman and Batman that broke the $1 million barrier. Both

comics that sold this week were in great condition - scoring an 8.0 on a

scale that goes up to 10, he said.



"I think that you can greenly ascribe this to a real comfort with the

liquidity of rare, high grade vintage collectibles," Vaughn said.



George Pantela, owner of Melbourne, Australia-based GP Analysis, which

tracks sales of certified comics from more than 20 auction houses and

dealers, said the previous record was about $317,000 paid a year ago for a

lesser grade Action Comics No. 1 than the one sold this week.



Vincent Zurzolo, chief operating officer of Comicconnect.com, took the

breaking of their record in stride.



"It's an exciting week in comic books when you have two comics selling for

$1 million," he said.



-



On the Net:



Heritage Auction Galleries: http://www.ha.com







 









  
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RE: [scifinoir2] More music business madness

[Martin Baxter]

Keith, I have iTunes credit I was given for Xmas of 2008, $25 worth.

As of now, my balance is 23.02. And I pick up songs almost daily...

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:14:47 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] More music business madness


















 



  



  
  
  
I am currently buying music from iTunes with a gift card from my wife. I can't 
imagine what I'd do if I had to pay for the privilege to preview a song. Oh 
wait: yes I do--I'd simply find the songs through other means...

- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: "bombcherryjuice" 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:02:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [scifinoir2] More music business madness








 



  



  
  
  According to the December 09 issue of EQ magazine ASCAP and BMI are going 
to start charging online businesses for the 30 second previews of songs that 
allow people to listen to a song before purchasing it. Of course that extra 
charge will be passed on to the customer. 


So just listening to a preview of a song is considered a "Public Performance." 
Does this make any sense to anyone? Next they'll be charging for movie 
previews...

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Re: [scifinoir2] More music business madness

[Keith Johnson]

I agree wholeheartedly. When cassette tapes replaced eight-track and 
reel-to-reel, the music industry said the new ability for people to share 
recorded music would be the death of the industry. They said the same when the 
VCR appeared. And again when CD/DVD burning technology manifested. Each tech 
was going to destroy the entertainment industry. None of them did. 

What really burns me is how good compromises are made, such as Apple's iTunes. 
It's not perfect, but Apple made buying music easy, cool, and fun. They brought 
back the importance of the single, freeing people from having to purchase whole 
albums. They made online movie buying cool. And what do the studios do? Get 
pissed and tell Apple, "You're not charging enough for our content. If you 
don't up the prices, we will". 

Cutting off their noses to spite their faces, which is why I, like you, have a 
different few of much online filesharing... 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:13:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] More music business madness 






No, Mr Worf, it doesn't. And, in all honesty, it's why I've changed my stance 
on file-sharing networks. I used to agree with musicians and music companies, 
that they were outright theft of property. But, since they seem copacetic with 
the idea of stealing from us as readily... 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: bombcherryju...@yahoogroups.com 
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com 
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:02:39 -0800 
Subject: [scifinoir2] More music business madness 




According to the December 09 issue of EQ magazine ASCAP and BMI are going to 
start charging online businesses for the 30 second previews of songs that allow 
people to listen to a song before purchasing it. Of course that extra charge 
will be passed on to the customer. 

So just listening to a preview of a song is considered a "Public Performance." 
Does this make any sense to anyone? Next they'll be charging for movie 
previews... 


-- 
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Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ 




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Re: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student Writing a Term Pa

[Keith Johnson]

What about Andre Norton's work? A lot of her scifi/fantasy is very suitable for 
young adults. Indeed, I read the bulk of her work when I was in middle school. 
She has some engaging scifi, and good fantasy too. 

- Original Message - 
From: "brent wodehouse"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:08:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa 






I do know that it can be quite difficult to discover the perfect gateway 
YA science fiction series as so many are very poor entertainment. Have you 
considered the group of YA Alexander Key novels (of which 'Escape to Witch 
Mountain' is a stand-out example)? I recall them fondly for their engaging 
escapism; great fun for the young reader. They do tend to the paranormal 
sci-fi element somewhat, I'm afraid, but not overmuch. Besides, in my 
case, it's this very aspect that, at the outset, appealed to me immensely. 

So, give them a go and see what results. You can't go wrong for trying. 
And good luck.:-) 

Brent 

Martin Baxter < truthseeker...@hotmail.com > did write: 

>Brent, I'd love to help the young man, but I'm still trying to draw all 
>of the young minds I can access (younger cousins and my youngest nephew) 
>into SF, unsuccessfully so far. 
> 
>"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
>bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
> 
>--- 
> 
>To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ; scifinoir_...@yahoogroups.com ; 
> carlbran...@yahoogroups.com 
>From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us 
>Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:26:29 -0500 
>Subject: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
>Writing a Term Paper 
> 
> 
>Subj: College Student Writing a Term Paper 
>From: Jared Guild < jarsk...@gmail.com > 
>Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:15 am 
> 
>Greetings, 
> 
>My name is Jared Guild and I attend a California college by the name of 
>Chapman University (Brandman University) which I am currently in my last 
>quarter and will graduate in May with my Bachelors Degree in Liberal 
>Studies. I am writing a term paper on the affects of Science Fiction and 
>Fantasy books on the imagination of children. I am writing you this email 
>because I got your name from an author by the name of Julie E. Czerneda. I 
>am looking for information that is in the area of Science Fiction and 
>Fantasy with regard to stimulating children's imagination. If you have any 
>information that would be useful I am looking for any kind of case study 
>that has been done or any publications with regard to my paper. If you 
>have 
>any books that have been published with information I could always make a 
>trip to a library. If you know of anybody else I should contact who might 
>be able to help me out as well that would be appreciated. Thank you for 
>your time and any help that you might provide. 
> 
>A Young Mind, 
> 
>Jared Guild 
> 

Re: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M

[Keith Johnson]

Amazing. What would you see is the most iconic comic cover of all time? I'd 
actually put Superman's debut--holding that car over his head--ahead of 
Batman's--at least, in terms of popular recognition. I'd have to put Spidey's 
Amazing Fantasy #15 up there as well. The site of the red-and-blue garbed 
Spider-Man swinging on a web was a harbinger of major changes coming to the 
industry. 

- Original Message - 
From: "brent wodehouse"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:36:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M 






http://jam.canoe.ca/Books/2010/02/25/13031036-ap.html 

Batman's debut comic sold for $1M 

By Jamie Stengle, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 

DALLAS - A 1939 comic book in which Batman makes his debut sold at auction 
Thursday for more than $1 million, breaking a record set just three days 
earlier by a Superman comic, Heritage Auction Galleries said. 

The Dallas-based auction house said the rare copy of Detective Comics No. 
27 sold for a total of $1,075,500, which includes the buyer's premium, to 
a buyer who wished to remain anonymous. The consigner wanted to remain 
anonymous as well. 

"It pretty much blew away all of our expectations and now it's the highest 
price ever raised for a comic book," said Barry Sandoval, director of 
operations of Heritage's comics division. 

A copy of the first comic book featuring Superman, a 1938 edition of 
Action Comics No. 1, sold Monday for $1 million in a sale between a 
private seller and a private buyer, with the transaction conducted by the 
New York City auction site ComicConnect.com. 

"We can really say that Batman has nosed out Superman, at least for now," 
Sandoval said. 

He said the consigner had bought the Batman comic in the late 1960s for 
$100. With a bright yellow background, the comic features Batman swinging 
on a rope above city rooftops. 

"That cover is just one of the most famous of all comic book covers," 
Sandoval said. 

J.C. Vaughn, associate publisher of The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide, 
said most people had predicted it would be the comics with the first 
appearance of Superman and Batman that broke the $1 million barrier. Both 
comics that sold this week were in great condition - scoring an 8.0 on a 
scale that goes up to 10, he said. 

"I think that you can greenly ascribe this to a real comfort with the 
liquidity of rare, high grade vintage collectibles," Vaughn said. 

George Pantela, owner of Melbourne, Australia-based GP Analysis, which 
tracks sales of certified comics from more than 20 auction houses and 
dealers, said the previous record was about $317,000 paid a year ago for a 
lesser grade Action Comics No. 1 than the one sold this week. 

Vincent Zurzolo, chief operating officer of Comicconnect.com, took the 
breaking of their record in stride. 

"It's an exciting week in comic books when you have two comics selling for 
$1 million," he said. 

- 

On the Net: 

Heritage Auction Galleries: http://www.ha.com 

Re: [scifinoir2] "La Femme Musketeer" on Hallmark Movie Channel

[Keith Johnson]

it's still on now, but it's the specific Hallmark Movie Channel, not the 
standard Hallmark Channel. On Comcast, the HMC is up on the dial near MPLEX, 
RLTV, and MTV2. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 4:18:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "La Femme Musketeer" on Hallmark Movie Channel 






I just came in the door, Keith, and there's nothing on there but the usual 
Hallmark fare, so I take it that I've missed it. I'll keep an eye out for it. 
Have you ever seen Peter Hyams' "The Musketeer"? It's a crazy East-meets-West 
melange of action, wrapped around a paper-thin plot which elevates D'Artangan 
to the sole focus of the thing and relegates all the rest of the Musketeers to 
second-banana status. (Oh, and makes D'Artangan part-007, too, thanks to a 
wagonload of gadgets and a scruffy-looking Q.) 

As for the Balkans being the location of so many Skiffy and Skiffy-type flicks? 
That's EuroCanada, home of low production values. 


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Re: [scifinoir2] "La Femme Musketeer" on Hallmark Movie Channel

[Keith Johnson]

I saw "The Musketeer" at the movies. I'll pay for just about any sword fighting 
movie if it's decent. 
I enjoyed the action, even though as you say, it was incredibly anachronistic, 
with Eastern style fighting and modern gymnastics grafted onto the sword 
techniques of the era. I think the fight choreography was handled in part by 
the same group of guys who are famous for teaching fighting techniques for 
movies like "The Matrix", "Kill Bill", etc. 
Even though the mashup was nuts, I did enjoy the fighting, and I will at least 
say that for as quick as the action was, the camera was kinder than is typical 
in more stuff nowadays. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 4:18:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] "La Femme Musketeer" on Hallmark Movie Channel 






I just came in the door, Keith, and there's nothing on there but the usual 
Hallmark fare, so I take it that I've missed it. I'll keep an eye out for it. 
Have you ever seen Peter Hyams' "The Musketeer"? It's a crazy East-meets-West 
melange of action, wrapped around a paper-thin plot which elevates D'Artangan 
to the sole focus of the thing and relegates all the rest of the Musketeers to 
second-banana status. (Oh, and makes D'Artangan part-007, too, thanks to a 
wagonload of gadgets and a scruffy-looking Q.) 

As for the Balkans being the location of so many Skiffy and Skiffy-type flicks? 
That's EuroCanada, home of low production values. 


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Re: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M

[Keith Johnson]

Don't tell me... ? 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 4:20:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M 






(sighing heavily while banging skull against wall...) 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us 
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:36:07 -0500 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M 




http://jam.canoe.ca/Books/2010/02/25/13031036-ap.html 

Batman's debut comic sold for $1M 

By Jamie Stengle, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS 

DALLAS - A 1939 comic book in which Batman makes his debut sold at auction 
Thursday for more than $1 million, breaking a record set just three days 
earlier by a Superman comic, Heritage Auction Galleries said. 

The Dallas-based auction house said the rare copy of Detective Comics No. 
27 sold for a total of $1,075,500, which includes the buyer's premium, to 
a buyer who wished to remain anonymous. The consigner wanted to remain 
anonymous as well. 

"It pretty much blew away all of our expectations and now it's the highest 
price ever raised for a comic book," said Barry Sandoval, director of 
operations of Heritage's comics division. 

A copy of the first comic book featuring Superman, a 1938 edition of 
Action Comics No. 1, sold Monday for $1 million in a sale between a 
private seller and a private buyer, with the transaction conducted by the 
New York City auction site ComicConnect.com. 

"We can really say that Batman has nosed out Superman, at least for now," 
Sandoval said. 

He said the consigner had bought the Batman comic in the late 1960s for 
$100. With a bright yellow background, the comic features Batman swinging 
on a rope above city rooftops. 

"That cover is just one of the most famous of all comic book covers," 
Sandoval said. 

J.C. Vaughn, associate publisher of The Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide, 
said most people had predicted it would be the comics with the first 
appearance of Superman and Batman that broke the $1 million barrier. Both 
comics that sold this week were in great condition - scoring an 8.0 on a 
scale that goes up to 10, he said. 

"I think that you can greenly ascribe this to a real comfort with the 
liquidity of rare, high grade vintage collectibles," Vaughn said. 

George Pantela, owner of Melbourne, Australia-based GP Analysis, which 
tracks sales of certified comics from more than 20 auction houses and 
dealers, said the previous record was about $317,000 paid a year ago for a 
lesser grade Action Comics No. 1 than the one sold this week. 

Vincent Zurzolo, chief operating officer of Comicconnect.com, took the 
breaking of their record in stride. 

"It's an exciting week in comic books when you have two comics selling for 
$1 million," he said. 

- 

On the Net: 

Heritage Auction Galleries: http://www.ha.com 





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Re: [scifinoir2] More music business madness

[Mr. Worf]

They don't want the cd/dvd world to disappear because they have huge markups
on them. It is still a valid industry in less developed countries but so are
pirated copies.

It is hard to determine what is being greedy vs a "valid" lack of revenue.
It feels more and more like they are just being greedy.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> I agree wholeheartedly. When cassette tapes replaced eight-track and
> reel-to-reel, the music industry said the new ability for people to share
> recorded music would be the death of the industry. They said the same when
> the VCR appeared. And again when CD/DVD burning technology manifested. Each
> tech was going to destroy the entertainment industry. None of them did.
>
> What really burns me is how good compromises are made, such as Apple's
> iTunes. It's not perfect, but Apple made buying music easy, cool, and fun.
> They brought back the importance of the single, freeing people from having
> to purchase whole albums. They made online movie buying cool. And what do
> the studios do? Get pissed and tell Apple, "You're not charging enough for
> our content. If you don't up the prices, we will".
>
> Cutting off their noses to spite their faces, which is why I, like you,
> have a different few of much online filesharing...
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: "SciFiNoir2" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:13:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] More music business madness
>
>
>
> No, Mr Worf, it doesn't. And, in all honesty, it's why I've changed my
> stance on file-sharing networks. I used to agree with musicians and music
> companies, that they were outright theft of property. But, since they seem
> copacetic with the idea of stealing from us as readily...
>
> "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: bombcherryju...@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:02:39 -0800
>
> Subject: [scifinoir2] More music business madness
>
>
>  According to the December 09 issue of EQ magazine ASCAP and BMI are going
> to start charging online businesses for the 30 second previews of songs that
> allow people to listen to a song before purchasing it. Of course that extra
> charge will be passed on to the customer.
>
> So just listening to a preview of a song is considered a "Public
> Performance." Does this make any sense to anyone? Next they'll be charging
> for movie previews...
>
>
> --
> Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity!
> Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
>
>
> --
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>
>
>
> 
>



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RE: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M

[Martin Baxter]

Keith... the same fire that claimed my copy of Action Comics #1. Both were 
birth gifts from one of my paternal great-aunts, meant to be used for sale to 
fund my college education. Aunt Mame never planned on my scoring a full 
academic ride at Virginia State.

Pardon me while I sob uncontrollably, if no one minds...
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol

[Mr. Worf]

There were a lot more sports but they were removed. For example, golf was an
olympic sport at one time. I think Tiger Woods won the gold in it.

There were also more fighting sports as well that just don't get aired on
tv. There was talk about adding more martial arts but that fell through. Tae
Kwon Do is a summer sport. I would love to see Kung fu, but I think that got
removed.



On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Well I'm still trying to understand Curling and Synchronized Swimming...
>
> I'm really old school. To me, the Olympics should be about contests that
> directly relate to fighting, escape, warfare: running, hitting, wrestling,
> hurling weapons. Frankly, I wish the Summer Games would add more martial
> arts like tae kwon do, and maybe expand swordplay past just fencing.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:38:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and
>  headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol
>
>
>
> You gotta love that. Its a very creative past time, but I'm not really sure
> if it will become a sport or not.
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Augustus Augustus <
> jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Talk about MUST SEE TV!
>>
>> Fate.
>>
>> Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics
>>
>>>  BY Rosemary Black 
>>> DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
>>>
>>> Tuesday, February 23rd 2010, 2:39 PM
>>> [image: Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot at
>>> winning an Olympic medal.]
>>> USPoleDance. com
>>> Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot at winning
>>> an Olympic medal.
>>>   Related News
>>>
>>>- Articles
>>>- U.S. skates, skis rings around the 
>>> competition
>>>- Golden pair has home crowd dancing on ice: Canadian ice dancers
>>>win, U.S. in 
>>> second
>>>- What a turn for ski king Bode Miller - finally realizes 
>>> promise
>>>- Curling's gotta go, readers say in 
>>> poll
>>>- Apolo Anton Ohno bronze finish in
>>>
>>> 
>>>- Evan Lysacek's blades of 
>>> glory
>>>
>>>  The strip club mainstay pole dancing - known as much for its sensual
>>> moves as its rigorous athletic side - may be headed for the Olympics.
>>>
>>> A group of pole-dance advocates is hoping for a "test" event in 2012 and
>>> a more formal pitch four years after that, in Rio de 
>>> Janeiro,
>>> according to The Associated 
>>> Press
>>> .
>>>
>>> KT Coates , a prominent
>>> pole dancer in Englandand 
>>> director of Vertical Dance, is leading the Olympic push.
>>>
>>> "After a great deal of feedback from the pole-dance community, many of us
>>> have decided that it’s about time pole fitness is recognized as a
>>> competitive sport, and what better way for recognition than to be part of
>>> the 2012 
>>> Olympicsheld in
>>> London ," she
>>> said in a petition she’s preparing for organizers of the London Olympics.
>>>
>>> Coates added that the prospective sport "has the wow factor."
>>>
>>> While her petition now has about 4,000 signatures, she is hoping to add
>>> 1,000 more.
>>>
>>> Advocates of pole dancing say other even more unlikely sports have gotten
>>> the approval of the International Olympic 
>>> Committee.
>>> Tug of war was an early Olympic medal contest, and curling is now huge at
>>> the Winter Games.
>>>
>>> Yet, well-established sports like cricket and squash haven’t managed to
>>> get a spot for themselves at the Olympics, and baseball and softball
>>> recently got the ax. The International Olympic Community would need to
>>> recognize pole dancing as a sport, which could prove to be an uphill battle.
>>>
>>> But pole-dance enthusiasts are hopeful about their chances to go for the
>>> gold.
>>>
>>> "It’s just a matter of time before pole dancing gets Olympic

RE: [scifinoir2] "La Femme Musketeer" on Hallmark Movie Channel

[Martin Baxter]

  
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RE: [scifinoir2] "La Femme Musketeer" on Hallmark Movie Channel

[Martin Baxter]

Me thinking I had the Hallmark Movie Channel... it's plain Hallmark here, so I 
can't see it. (Keith, I've severed all ties with Comscum.)
  
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RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student Writing a Term Pa

[Martin Baxter]

Keith, I tried Norton with my nephew, Tony. His mother, who loathes me because 
I bear the Curse of Our Father's Face, threw the books I sent him away. Tried 
slipping him a couple of the Pendragon YA novels, hiding them in his room, but 
his mother found and tossed them.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:27:20 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa


















 



  



  
  
  
What about Andre Norton's work? A lot of her scifi/fantasy is very suitable for 
young adults. Indeed, I read the bulk of her work when I was in middle school. 
She has some engaging scifi, and good fantasy too.

- Original Message -
From: "brent wodehouse" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:08:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa








 



  



  
  
  I do know that it can be quite difficult to discover the perfect gateway

YA science fiction series as so many are very poor entertainment. Have you

considered the group of YA Alexander Key novels (of which 'Escape to Witch

Mountain' is a stand-out example)? I recall them fondly for their engaging

escapism; great fun for the young reader. They do tend to the paranormal

sci-fi element somewhat, I'm afraid, but not overmuch. Besides, in my

case, it's this very aspect that, at the outset, appealed to me immensely.



So, give them a go and see what results. You can't go wrong for trying.

And good luck.:-)



Brent



Martin Baxter  did write:



>Brent, I'd love to help the young man, but I'm still trying to draw all

>of the young minds I can access (younger cousins and my youngest nephew)

>into SF, unsuccessfully so far.

>

>"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in

>bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

>

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

>

>---

>

>To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; scifinoir_...@yahoogroups.com;

>carlbran...@yahoogroups.com

>From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us

>Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:26:29 -0500

>Subject: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student

>Writing a Term Paper

>

> 

>Subj: College Student Writing a Term Paper

>From: Jared Guild 

>Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:15 am

>

>Greetings,

>

>My name is Jared Guild and I attend a California college by the name of

>Chapman University (Brandman University) which I am currently in my last

>quarter and will graduate in May with my Bachelors Degree in Liberal

>Studies. I am writing a term paper on the affects of Science Fiction and

>Fantasy books on the imagination of children. I am writing you this email

>because I got your name from an author by the name of Julie E. Czerneda. I

>am looking for information that is in the area of Science Fiction and

>Fantasy with regard to stimulating children's imagination. If you have any

>information that would be useful I am looking for any kind of case study

>that has been done or any publications with regard to my paper. If you

>have

>any books that have been published with information I could always make a

>trip to a library. If you know of anybody else I should contact who might

>be able to help me out as well that would be appreciated. Thank you for

>your time and any help that you might provide.

>

>A Young Mind,

>

>Jared Guild

>







 






  




 









  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M

[Keith Johnson]

Wow. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:36:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M 






Keith... the same fire that claimed my copy of Action Comics #1. Both were 
birth gifts from one of my paternal great-aunts, meant to be used for sale to 
fund my college education. Aunt Mame never planned on my scoring a full 
academic ride at Virginia State. 

Pardon me while I sob uncontrollably, if no one minds... 


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Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol

[Keith Johnson]

For some reason I thought only judo was in the Summer games, not Tae Kwon Do? I 
don't count golf among the category of sports I consider "Olympic". Like I 
said: it should be about warfare, survival, and escape for me. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:31:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and 
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol 






There were a lot more sports but they were removed. For example, golf was an 
olympic sport at one time. I think Tiger Woods won the gold in it. 

There were also more fighting sports as well that just don't get aired on tv. 
There was talk about adding more martial arts but that fell through. Tae Kwon 
Do is a summer sport. I would love to see Kung fu, but I think that got 
removed. 




On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






Well I'm still trying to understand Curling and Synchronized Swimming... 

I'm really old school. To me, the Olympics should be about contests that 
directly relate to fighting, escape, warfare: running, hitting, wrestling, 
hurling weapons. Frankly, I wish the Summer Games would add more martial arts 
like tae kwon do, and maybe expand swordplay past just fencing. 




- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:38:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and 
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol 









You gotta love that. Its a very creative past time, but I'm not really sure if 
it will become a sport or not. 


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Augustus Augustus < jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com > 
wrote: 






Talk about MUST SEE TV! 

Fate. 



Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics 











BY Rosemary Black 
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER 

Tuesday, February 23rd 2010, 2:39 PM 
Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot at winning an 
Olympic medal.

USPoleDance. com Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot 
at winning an Olympic medal. 


Related News 




• Articles 
• U.S. skates, skis rings around the competition 
• Golden pair has home crowd dancing on ice: Canadian ice dancers win, U.S. 
in second 
• What a turn for ski king Bode Miller - finally realizes promise 
• Curling's gotta go, readers say in poll 
• Apolo Anton Ohno bronze finish in 
• Evan Lysacek's blades of glory 


The strip club mainstay pole dancing - known as much for its sensual moves as 
its rigorous athletic side - may be headed for the Olympics. 

A group of pole-dance advocates is hoping for a "test" event in 2012 and a more 
formal pitch four years after that, in Rio de Janeiro , according to The 
Associated Press . 

KT Coates , a prominent pole dancer in England and director of Vertical Dance, 
is leading the Olympic push. 

"After a great deal of feedback from the pole-dance community, many of us have 
decided that it’s about time pole fitness is recognized as a competitive sport, 
and what better way for recognition than to be part of the 2012 Olympics held 
in London ," she said in a petition she’s preparing for organizers of the 
London Olympics. 

Coates added that the prospective sport "has the wow factor." 

While her petition now has about 4,000 signatures, she is hoping to add 1,000 
more. 

Advocates of pole dancing say other even more unlikely sports have gotten the 
approval of the International Olympic Committee . Tug of war was an early 
Olympic medal contest, and curling is now huge at the Winter Games. 

Yet, well-established sports like cricket and squash haven’t managed to get a 
spot for themselves at the Olympics, and baseball and softball recently got the 
ax. The International Olympic Community would need to recognize pole dancing as 
a sport, which could prove to be an uphill battle. 

But pole-dance enthusiasts are hopeful about their chances to go for the gold. 

"It’s just a matter of time before pole dancing gets Olympic recognition," says 
Ania Przeplasko of Hong Kong , founder of the International Pole Dancing 
Fitness Association . 

"There will be a day when the Olympics see pole dancing as a sport," she told 
The Associated Press. "The Olympic community needs to acknowledge the number of 
people doing pole fitness now. We’re shooting for 2012." 

Some dancers aren’t so sure about pole dancing at the Olympics because they 
worry that the sensual aspect of the discipline would be destroyed, and that 
old-school pole dancers might be pushed aside by gymnasts, circus performers 
and Chinese acrobats who could easily pick up the moves. 

"I don’t need to see pole dancing in the Olympics," U.S. Pole Dance Federation 
co-founder Wendy Traskos said. "I don’t think this is necessari

RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student Writing a Term Pa

[Martin Baxter]

Thank you, Brent, and I intend to. Tony (my nephew) shows every sign of having 
a genius-level intellect, and I want to nurture it, guide him toward a career 
in science (even though his present dream is to be a d-back for the Jets).

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:08:34 -0500
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa


















 



  



  
  
  I do know that it can be quite difficult to discover the perfect gateway

YA science fiction series as so many are very poor entertainment. Have you

considered the group of YA Alexander Key novels (of which 'Escape to Witch

Mountain' is a stand-out example)? I recall them fondly for their engaging

escapism; great fun for the young reader. They do tend to the paranormal

sci-fi element somewhat, I'm afraid, but not overmuch. Besides, in my

case, it's this very aspect that, at the outset, appealed to me immensely.



So, give them a go and see what results. You can't go wrong for trying.

And good luck.:-)



Brent



Martin Baxter  did write:



>Brent, I'd love to help the young man, but I'm still trying to draw all

>of the young minds I can access (younger cousins and my youngest nephew)

>into SF, unsuccessfully so far.

>

>"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in

>bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

>

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

>

>---

>

>To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; scifinoir_...@yahoogroups.com;

>carlbran...@yahoogroups.com

>From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us

>Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:26:29 -0500

>Subject: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student

>Writing a Term Paper

>

> 

>Subj: College Student Writing a Term Paper

>From: Jared Guild 

>Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:15 am

>

>Greetings,

>

>My name is Jared Guild and I attend a California college by the name of

>Chapman University (Brandman University) which I am currently in my last

>quarter and will graduate in May with my Bachelors Degree in Liberal

>Studies. I am writing a term paper on the affects of Science Fiction and

>Fantasy books on the imagination of children. I am writing you this email

>because I got your name from an author by the name of Julie E. Czerneda. I

>am looking for information that is in the area of Science Fiction and

>Fantasy with regard to stimulating children's imagination. If you have any

>information that would be useful I am looking for any kind of case study

>that has been done or any publications with regard to my paper. If you

>have

>any books that have been published with information I could always make a

>trip to a library. If you know of anybody else I should contact who might

>be able to help me out as well that would be appreciated. Thank you for

>your time and any help that you might provide.

>

>A Young Mind,

>

>Jared Guild

>







 









  
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[Keith Johnson]

Dude, that's a story in its own right! 

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Baxter"  
To: "SciFiNoir2"  
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:26:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa 






Keith, I tried Norton with my nephew, Tony. His mother, who loathes me because 
I bear the Curse of Our Father's Face, threw the books I sent him away. Tried 
slipping him a couple of the Pendragon YA novels, hiding them in his room, but 
his mother found and tossed them. 

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:27:20 + 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa 






What about Andre Norton's work? A lot of her scifi/fantasy is very suitable for 
young adults. Indeed, I read the bulk of her work when I was in middle school. 
She has some engaging scifi, and good fantasy too. 

- Original Message - 
From: "brent wodehouse"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:08:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa 




I do know that it can be quite difficult to discover the perfect gateway 
YA science fiction series as so many are very poor entertainment. Have you 
considered the group of YA Alexander Key novels (of which 'Escape to Witch 
Mountain' is a stand-out example)? I recall them fondly for their engaging 
escapism; great fun for the young reader. They do tend to the paranormal 
sci-fi element somewhat, I'm afraid, but not overmuch. Besides, in my 
case, it's this very aspect that, at the outset, appealed to me immensely. 

So, give them a go and see what results. You can't go wrong for trying. 
And good luck.:-) 

Brent 

Martin Baxter < truthseeker...@hotmail.com > did write: 

>Brent, I'd love to help the young man, but I'm still trying to draw all 
>of the young minds I can access (younger cousins and my youngest nephew) 
>into SF, unsuccessfully so far. 
> 
>"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in 
>bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik 
> 
>--- 
> 
>To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ; scifinoir_...@yahoogroups.com ; 
> carlbran...@yahoogroups.com 
>From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us 
>Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:26:29 -0500 
>Subject: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
>Writing a Term Paper 
> 
> 
>Subj: College Student Writing a Term Paper 
>From: Jared Guild < jarsk...@gmail.com > 
>Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:15 am 
> 
>Greetings, 
> 
>My name is Jared Guild and I attend a California college by the name of 
>Chapman University (Brandman University) which I am currently in my last 
>quarter and will graduate in May with my Bachelors Degree in Liberal 
>Studies. I am writing a term paper on the affects of Science Fiction and 
>Fantasy books on the imagination of children. I am writing you this email 
>because I got your name from an author by the name of Julie E. Czerneda. I 
>am looking for information that is in the area of Science Fiction and 
>Fantasy with regard to stimulating children's imagination. If you have any 
>information that would be useful I am looking for any kind of case study 
>that has been done or any publications with regard to my paper. If you 
>have 
>any books that have been published with information I could always make a 
>trip to a library. If you know of anybody else I should contact who might 
>be able to help me out as well that would be appreciated. Thank you for 
>your time and any help that you might provide. 
> 
>A Young Mind, 
> 
>Jared Guild 
> 







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[Martin Baxter]

And they're all around, in pieces, waiting for assembly. ;-)

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:33:47 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa


















 



  



  
  
  
Dude, that's a story in its own right!

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Baxter" 
To: "SciFiNoir2" 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:26:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
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Keith, I tried Norton with my nephew, Tony. His mother, who loathes me because 
I bear the Curse of Our Father's Face, threw the books I sent him away. Tried 
slipping him a couple of the Pendragon YA novels, hiding them in his room, but 
his mother found and tossed them.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik





To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 21:27:20 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa


















 



  



  
  
  
What about Andre Norton's work? A lot of her scifi/fantasy is very suitable for 
young adults. Indeed, I read the bulk of her work when I was in middle school. 
She has some engaging scifi, and good fantasy too.

- Original Message -
From: "brent wodehouse" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 2:08:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student 
Writing a Term Pa








 



  



  
  
  I do know that it can be quite difficult to discover the perfect gateway

YA science fiction series as so many are very poor entertainment. Have you

considered the group of YA Alexander Key novels (of which 'Escape to Witch

Mountain' is a stand-out example)? I recall them fondly for their engaging

escapism; great fun for the young reader. They do tend to the paranormal

sci-fi element somewhat, I'm afraid, but not overmuch. Besides, in my

case, it's this very aspect that, at the outset, appealed to me immensely.



So, give them a go and see what results. You can't go wrong for trying.

And good luck.:-)



Brent



Martin Baxter  did write:



>Brent, I'd love to help the young man, but I'm still trying to draw all

>of the young minds I can access (younger cousins and my youngest nephew)

>into SF, unsuccessfully so far.

>

>"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in

>bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

>

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

>

>---

>

>To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com; scifinoir_...@yahoogroups.com;

>carlbran...@yahoogroups.com

>From: brent_wodeho...@thefence.us

>Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:26:29 -0500

>Subject: [scifinoir2] (fwd): Request for Info: Subj: College Student

>Writing a Term Paper

>

> 

>Subj: College Student Writing a Term Paper

>From: Jared Guild 

>Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 8:15 am

>

>Greetings,

>

>My name is Jared Guild and I attend a California college by the name of

>Chapman University (Brandman University) which I am currently in my last

>quarter and will graduate in May with my Bachelors Degree in Liberal

>Studies. I am writing a term paper on the affects of Science Fiction and

>Fantasy books on the imagination of children. I am writing you this email

>because I got your name from an author by the name of Julie E. Czerneda. I

>am looking for information that is in the area of Science Fiction and

>Fantasy with regard to stimulating children's imagination. If you have any

>information that would be useful I am looking for any kind of case study

>that has been done or any publications with regard to my paper. If you

>have

>any books that have been published with information I could always make a

>trip to a library. If you know of anybody else I should contact who might

>be able to help me out as well that would be appreciated. Thank you for

>your time and any help that you might provide.

>

>A Young Mind,

>

>Jared Guild

>







 






  




 









  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol

[Mr. Worf]

If that were true they should add the ninjitsu, urban ninjas, and american
gladiator stuff to the olympics, but I don't see that happening.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> For some reason I thought only judo was in the Summer games, not Tae Kwon
> Do? I don't count golf among the category of sports I consider "Olympic".
> Like I said: it should be about warfare, survival, and escape for me.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:31:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and
>  headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol
>
>
>
> There were a lot more sports but they were removed. For example, golf was
> an olympic sport at one time. I think Tiger Woods won the gold in it.
>
> There were also more fighting sports as well that just don't get aired on
> tv. There was talk about adding more martial arts but that fell through. Tae
> Kwon Do is a summer sport. I would love to see Kung fu, but I think that got
> removed.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Well I'm still trying to understand Curling and Synchronized Swimming...
>>
>> I'm really old school. To me, the Olympics should be about contests that
>> directly relate to fighting, escape, warfare: running, hitting, wrestling,
>> hurling weapons. Frankly, I wish the Summer Games would add more martial
>> arts like tae kwon do, and maybe expand swordplay past just fencing.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mr. Worf" 
>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:38:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and
>>  headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol
>>
>>
>>
>> You gotta love that. Its a very creative past time, but I'm not really
>> sure if it will become a sport or not.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Augustus Augustus <
>> jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Talk about MUST SEE TV!
>>>
>>> Fate.
>>>
>>> Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics
>>>
  BY Rosemary Black
 DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

 Tuesday, February 23rd 2010, 2:39 PM
 [image: Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot at
 winning an Olympic medal.]
 USPoleDance. com
 Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot at winning
 an Olympic medal.
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  The strip club mainstay pole dancing - known as much for its sensual
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Re: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M

[Mr. Worf]

I kind of sum it up this way. If we both had received and sold those comics
we probably wouldn't have grown to appreciate the value of a college
education.

By the time I graduated I was seriously burned out on school. All it took
was a little motivation from some crappy employers to make me rethink my
outlook on things.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> Wow.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> To: "SciFiNoir2" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:36:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Batman's debut comic sold for $1M
>
>
>
> Keith... the same fire that claimed my copy of Action Comics #1. Both were
> birth gifts from one of my paternal great-aunts, meant to be used for sale
> to fund my college education. Aunt Mame never planned on my scoring a full
> academic ride at Virginia State.
>
> Pardon me while I sob uncontrollably, if no one minds...
>
> --
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> now.
>
>
>
> 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol

[Martin Baxter]

Mr Worf, the only problem with putting the first two in as Olympic sports would 
be the need to safety so many of the weapons. Not everyone would go for 
decapitations and eviscerations (sp?) on live TV.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:35:57 -0800
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and   
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol


















 



  



  
  
  If that were true they should add the ninjitsu, urban ninjas, and 
american gladiator stuff to the olympics, but I don't see that happening. 


On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





















For some reason I thought only judo was in the Summer games, not Tae Kwon Do? I 
don't count golf among the category of sports I consider "Olympic". Like I 
said: it should be about warfare, survival, and escape for me.


- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:31:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and  
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol









 



  



  
  
  There were a lot more sports but they were removed. For example, golf was 
an olympic sport at one time. I think Tiger Woods won the gold in it. 

There were also more fighting sports as well that just don't get aired on tv. 
There was talk about adding more martial arts but that fell through. Tae Kwon 
Do is a summer sport. I would love to see Kung fu, but I think that got 
removed. 






On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:






















Well I'm still trying to understand Curling and Synchronized Swimming...

I'm really old school. To me, the Olympics should be about contests that 
directly relate to fighting, escape, warfare: running, hitting, wrestling, 
hurling weapons. Frankly, I wish the Summer Games would add more martial arts 
like tae kwon do, and maybe expand swordplay past just fencing.



- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:38:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and  
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol








 



  



  
  
  You gotta love that. Its a very creative past time, but I'm not really 
sure if it will become a sport or not.


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Augustus Augustus  
wrote:




























Talk about MUST SEE TV!

Fate.


Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics 



BY Rosemary Black 
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER 

Tuesday, February 23rd 2010, 2:39 PM

 

USPoleDance. comPole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot 
at winning an Olympic medal. 



Related News



Articles
U.S. skates, skis rings around the competition




Golden pair has home crowd dancing on ice: Canadian ice dancers win, U.S. in 
second





What a turn for ski king Bode Miller - finally realizes promise





Curling's gotta go, readers say in poll




Apolo Anton Ohno bronze finish in 
Evan Lysacek's blades of glory




The strip club mainstay pole dancing - known as much for its sensual moves as 
its rigorous athletic side - may be headed for the Olympics.

A group of pole-dance advocates is hoping for a "test" event in 2012 and a more 
formal pitch four years after that, in Rio de Janeiro, according to The 
Associated Press.






KT Coates, a prominent pole dancer in England and director of Vertical Dance, 
is leading the Olympic push.






"After a great deal of feedback from the pole-dance community, many of us have 
decided that it’s about time pole fitness is recognized as a competitive sport, 
and what better way for recognition than to be part of the 2012 Olympics held 
in London," she said in a petition she’s preparing for organizers of the London 
Olympics.






Coates added that the prospective sport "has the wow factor." 

While her petition now has about 4,000 signatures, she is hoping to add 1,000 
more. 

Advocates of pole dancing say other even more unlikely sports have gotten the 
approval of the International Olympic Committee. Tug of war was an early 
Olympic medal contest, and curling is now huge at the Winter Games. 






Yet, well-established sports like cricket and squash haven’t managed to get a 
spot for themselves at the Olympics, and baseball and softball recently got the 
ax. The International Olympic Community would need to recognize pole dancing as 
a sport, which could prove to be an uphill battle.






But pole-dance enthusiasts are hopeful about their chances to go for the gold.

"It’s just a matter of time before pole 

Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol

[Keith Johnson]

yeah, it could get out of hand. Asian martial arts alone cover such a broad 
range they'd overwhelm the games. 
But still, golf? Synchronized swimming? Rhythmic gymnastics? 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:35:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and 
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol 






If that were true they should add the ninjitsu, urban ninjas, and american 
gladiator stuff to the olympics, but I don't see that happening. 


On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






For some reason I thought only judo was in the Summer games, not Tae Kwon Do? I 
don't count golf among the category of sports I consider "Olympic". Like I 
said: it should be about warfare, survival, and escape for me. 


- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:31:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and 
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol 






There were a lot more sports but they were removed. For example, golf was an 
olympic sport at one time. I think Tiger Woods won the gold in it. 

There were also more fighting sports as well that just don't get aired on tv. 
There was talk about adding more martial arts but that fell through. Tae Kwon 
Do is a summer sport. I would love to see Kung fu, but I think that got 
removed. 




On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






Well I'm still trying to understand Curling and Synchronized Swimming... 

I'm really old school. To me, the Olympics should be about contests that 
directly relate to fighting, escape, warfare: running, hitting, wrestling, 
hurling weapons. Frankly, I wish the Summer Games would add more martial arts 
like tae kwon do, and maybe expand swordplay past just fencing. 




- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf" < hellomahog...@gmail.com > 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:38:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and 
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol 









You gotta love that. Its a very creative past time, but I'm not really sure if 
it will become a sport or not. 


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Augustus Augustus < jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com > 
wrote: 






Talk about MUST SEE TV! 

Fate. 



Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics 











BY Rosemary Black 
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER 

Tuesday, February 23rd 2010, 2:39 PM 
Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot at winning an 
Olympic medal.

USPoleDance. com Pole dancers at the top of their game may one day have a shot 
at winning an Olympic medal. 


Related News 




• Articles 
• U.S. skates, skis rings around the competition 
• Golden pair has home crowd dancing on ice: Canadian ice dancers win, U.S. 
in second 
• What a turn for ski king Bode Miller - finally realizes promise 
• Curling's gotta go, readers say in poll 
• Apolo Anton Ohno bronze finish in 
• Evan Lysacek's blades of glory 


The strip club mainstay pole dancing - known as much for its sensual moves as 
its rigorous athletic side - may be headed for the Olympics. 

A group of pole-dance advocates is hoping for a "test" event in 2012 and a more 
formal pitch four years after that, in Rio de Janeiro , according to The 
Associated Press . 

KT Coates , a prominent pole dancer in England and director of Vertical Dance, 
is leading the Olympic push. 

"After a great deal of feedback from the pole-dance community, many of us have 
decided that it’s about time pole fitness is recognized as a competitive sport, 
and what better way for recognition than to be part of the 2012 Olympics held 
in London ," she said in a petition she’s preparing for organizers of the 
London Olympics. 

Coates added that the prospective sport "has the wow factor." 

While her petition now has about 4,000 signatures, she is hoping to add 1,000 
more. 

Advocates of pole dancing say other even more unlikely sports have gotten the 
approval of the International Olympic Committee . Tug of war was an early 
Olympic medal contest, and curling is now huge at the Winter Games. 

Yet, well-established sports like cricket and squash haven’t managed to get a 
spot for themselves at the Olympics, and baseball and softball recently got the 
ax. The International Olympic Community would need to recognize pole dancing as 
a sport, which could prove to be an uphill battle. 

But pole-dance enthusiasts are hopeful about their chances to go for the gold. 

"It’s just a matter of time before pole dancing gets Olympic recognition," says 
Ania Przeplasko of Hong Kong , foun

RE: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol

[Martin Baxter]

Maybe we could cycle the martial arts. Two or three every Olympics.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:39:08 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and  
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol


















 



  



  
  
  
yeah, it could get out of hand. Asian martial arts alone cover such a broad 
range they'd overwhelm the games. 
But still, golf? Synchronized swimming? Rhythmic gymnastics?

- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:35:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and  
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol








 



  



  
  
  If that were true they should add the ninjitsu, urban ninjas, and 
american gladiator stuff to the olympics, but I don't see that happening. 


On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





















For some reason I thought only judo was in the Summer games, not Tae Kwon Do? I 
don't count golf among the category of sports I consider "Olympic". Like I 
said: it should be about warfare, survival, and escape for me.


- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 6:31:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and  
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol









 



  



  
  
  There were a lot more sports but they were removed. For example, golf was 
an olympic sport at one time. I think Tiger Woods won the gold in it. 

There were also more fighting sports as well that just don't get aired on tv. 
There was talk about adding more martial arts but that fell through. Tae Kwon 
Do is a summer sport. I would love to see Kung fu, but I think that got 
removed. 






On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:






















Well I'm still trying to understand Curling and Synchronized Swimming...

I'm really old school. To me, the Olympics should be about contests that 
directly relate to fighting, escape, warfare: running, hitting, wrestling, 
hurling weapons. Frankly, I wish the Summer Games would add more martial arts 
like tae kwon do, and maybe expand swordplay past just fencing.



- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 1:38:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and  
headed to the Olympics Who knew? lol








 



  



  
  
  You gotta love that. Its a very creative past time, but I'm not really 
sure if it will become a sport or not.


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Augustus Augustus  
wrote:




























Talk about MUST SEE TV!

Fate.


Pole dancing could be recognized as a sport and headed to the Olympics 



BY Rosemary Black 
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER 

Tuesday, February 23rd 2010, 2:39 PM

 

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The strip club mainstay pole dancing - known as much for its sensual moves as 
its rigorous athletic side - may be headed for the Olympics.

A group of pole-dance advocates is hoping for a "test" event in 2012 and a more 
formal pitch four years after that, in Rio de Janeiro, according to The 
Associated Press.






KT Coates, a prominent pole dancer in England and director of Vertical Dance, 
is leading the Olympic push.






"After a great deal of feedback from the pole-dance community, many of us have 
decided that it’s about time pole fitness is recognized as a competitive sport, 
and what better way for recognition than to be part of the 2012 Olympics held 
in London," she said in a petition she’s preparing for organizers of the London 
Olympics.






Coates added that the prospective sport "has the wow factor." 

While her petition now has about 4,000 signatures, she is hoping to add 1,000 
more. 

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[scifinoir2] OT: Mayor Who Sent Obama Watermelon Picture Quits

[Keith Johnson]

What irritates me more is the way people like this mayor have the gall to claim 
"I didn't know it was offensive", "I didn't mean to upset anyone". What crap! 
You can't live in the US and not be aware of the racial significance of this. I 
mean, if that were the case, why not pumpkins? Strawberries? Eggplants, even? 

* 
http://newsone.com/nation/news-one-staff/california-mayor-emails-white-house-watermelon-picture/
 

UPDATE: Mayor Who Sent Obama Watermelon Picture Quits 

By News One February 27, 2009 4:24 pm 




UPDATE: Mayor Who Sent Obama Watermelon Picture Quits 

The mayor of a small Southern California city says he will resign after being 
criticized for sharing an e-mail picture depicting the White House lawn planted 
with watermelons under the title “No Easter egg hunt this year.” 

Los Alamitos Mayor Dean Grose issued a statement Thursday saying he is sorry 
and will step down as mayor at Monday’s City Council meeting. 

Grose came under fire for sending the picture to what he called “a small group 
of friends.” One of the recipients, a local businesswoman and city volunteer, 
publicly scolded the mayor for his actions. 

Grose says he accepts that the e-mail was in poor taste and has affected his 
ability to lead the city. Grose said he didn’t mean to offend anyone and 
claimed he was unaware of the racial stereotype linking black people with 
eating watermelons. 

Located in Orange County, Los Alamitos is a 2 1/4-square-mile city of around 
12,000 people. 

Re: [scifinoir2] Archie in love with black Pussycat

[Keith Johnson]

I think using Archie to help read isn't a bad idea at all. I read the comics 
voraciously as a kid of eight or nine. That, along with Hot Stuff, Casper, 
Stumbo the Giant, and my brothers' DC comics. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Daryle Lockhart"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 3:58:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Archie in love with black Pussycat 






She was using ARCHIE to get her kid to read more? Wow. How old's the kid? 










On Feb 26, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Mr. Worf wrote: 





Just another cheap attempt to revive a comic that no one reads. I only know one 
person that still reads Archie and she was buying it to get her daughter to 
read more. 


On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Kelwyn < ravena...@yahoo.com > wrote: 


http://africomics.com/comicbook_blog/2010/01/09/archie%E2%80%A6-and-valerie/ 

Fresh from jilting two wives, Archie "Playa" Andrews is moving on to the 
Pussycats, according to this morning's press release. We're not experts in 
Archie continuity — whether it be comic or strip — so we're not certain if 
these two have, er, fraternized before. Will Archie move on to Melody and Josie 
in a universe spanning x-ver? It's a Brand New Day for Archie for sure! 

Two of the greatest bands in comic book history hook up like never before when 
Josie and the Pussycats come to town to tour with The Archies. However, more 
than music is made on one starry night outside Archie's home, when there's a 
kiss that could change Riverdale forever. Is it possible that the pure-hearted, 
red-haired lead of The Archies is really falling in love with Valerie, the 
beautiful bassist/songwriter of Josie and the Pussycats? What will happen to 
Betty and Veronica? "It Starts with a Kiss" is the beginning of a tale to be 
continued. Don't miss out while the world watches to see if Archie and Valerie 
have what it takes to make their love survive. Look for part one in Archie 
#608, hitting stores this April! 
http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2010/01/06/archie- 



 

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[scifinoir2] 10 reasons to see new conan the barbarian movie

[Kelwyn]

http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2010/02/26/10-reasons-im-going-to-see-conan/

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Rewrite 2: Heroes

[n1rogue]

Just touching on your last point. In the first season finale didn't Nathan flew 
Peter out of New York and later in the second season, Peter gave him some of 
Claire's blood to help him heal from the scaring he took from the explosion 
that Peter caused? Why didn't he just heal himself?
--Lavender
I love mankind - it's people I can't stand!


From: B Smith 
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:48 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rewrite 2: Heroes


  
It made no sense to kill him off and then have 18 other characters using some 
variation or take on his powerset.

Something that would have been interesting that they sort of touched on is that 
seers seemed to arise when needed. His gift should have been uncopyable. It 
would have been great if Peter and Sylar both failed at replicating his powers.

I think killing off Adam Monroe was a mistake. In the hands of a better writer 
he could have been their Vandal Savage.

Sylar was popular but overused. Flipping him between hero and villain so many 
times for no real reason weakened the character. It would have been bad for 
Quinto but good for the show if he was kept offstage more.

Use your brain. Some of the problems with the show just go back to lazy writing 
and lack of continuity. Why was Nathan Petrelli's second death an issue? Both 
Claire and Sylar's blood could have easily "fixed" him again but everyone 
conveniently forgot that fact.

Whatever happened to the invisible man?

I'll stop now.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf"  wrote:
>
> I think that one of the most interesting characters in the first season was
> Isaac. They should have kept him alive because his character added to the
> suspense. Also him having the crutch of using heroin was classic!
> 
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Martin Baxter
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Start out exactly the way the series started, ignore the Brainless Suits
> > when they complained. I'd stretch things out a bit, put in more sidebars for
> > each Hero, allow them to try heroing in some small form, feel out the scopes
> > of their powers while maintaining the overall story arc.
> >
> > And leave Sylar as the Big Bad. And keep as many of the power players (i.e.
> > Peter and Nathan's mother) out of the spotlight.
> >
> > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > From: hellomahog...@...
> > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:23:33 -0800
> > Subject: [scifinoir2] Rewrite 2: Heroes
> >
> >
> > If you had the power to go back in time and become an exec at NBC how
> > would you write Heroes?
> >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Rewrite 2: Heroes

[Mr. Worf]

Nathan had radiation burns but they didn't reveal what actually happened
until late into the second season. Nathan doesn't have healing abilities.
People with the power genes have them randomly.

Part of it is just the lack of logic used to draw the story out more. Peter
could have healed Hiro when they were in the hospital instead of Hiro
running around the place on half power.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:54 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> Just touching on your last point. In the first season finale didn't Nathan
> flew Peter out of New York and later in the second season, Peter gave him
> some of Claire's blood to help him heal from the scaring he took from the
> explosion that Peter caused? Why didn't he just heal himself?
> --Lavender
> I love mankind - it's people I can't stand!
>
>  *From:* B Smith 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:48 AM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Re: Rewrite 2: Heroes
>
>
>
> It made no sense to kill him off and then have 18 other characters using
> some variation or take on his powerset.
>
> Something that would have been interesting that they sort of touched on is
> that seers seemed to arise when needed. His gift should have been
> uncopyable. It would have been great if Peter and Sylar both failed at
> replicating his powers.
>
> I think killing off Adam Monroe was a mistake. In the hands of a better
> writer he could have been their Vandal Savage.
>
> Sylar was popular but overused. Flipping him between hero and villain so
> many times for no real reason weakened the character. It would have been bad
> for Quinto but good for the show if he was kept offstage more.
>
> Use your brain. Some of the problems with the show just go back to lazy
> writing and lack of continuity. Why was Nathan Petrelli's second death an
> issue? Both Claire and Sylar's blood could have easily "fixed" him again but
> everyone conveniently forgot that fact.
>
> Whatever happened to the invisible man?
>
> I'll stop now.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "Mr.
> Worf"  wrote:
> >
> > I think that one of the most interesting characters in the first season
> was
> > Isaac. They should have kept him alive because his character added to the
> > suspense. Also him having the crutch of using heroin was classic!
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Martin Baxter
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Start out exactly the way the series started, ignore the Brainless
> Suits
> > > when they complained. I'd stretch things out a bit, put in more
> sidebars for
> > > each Hero, allow them to try heroing in some small form, feel out the
> scopes
> > > of their powers while maintaining the overall story arc.
> > >
> > > And leave Sylar as the Big Bad. And keep as many of the power players
> (i.e.
> > > Peter and Nathan's mother) out of the spotlight.
> > >
> > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in
> > > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > > From: hellomahog...@...
> > > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 14:23:33 -0800
> > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Rewrite 2: Heroes
> > >
> > >
> > > If you had the power to go back in time and become an exec at NBC how
> > > would you write Heroes?
> > >
> > > --
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Re: [scifinoir2] 10 reasons to see new conan the barbarian movie

[Mr. Worf]

Ok. I'm sold. When is it coming out?

Here's a completely different topic. Why are they showing the Airbender
movie trailers now when it doesn't come out until July???

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> http://blackgeekdom.com/blog/2010/02/26/10-reasons-im-going-to-see-conan/
>
>
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Archie in love with black Pussycat

[Mr. Worf]

They have proven that reading and music can help children succeed later in
life. My friend's daughter wants to be the state's attorney general. I
believe that she will do it.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> I think using Archie to help read isn't a bad idea at all. I read the
> comics voraciously as a kid of eight or nine. That, along with Hot Stuff,
> Casper, Stumbo the Giant, and my brothers' DC comics.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryle Lockhart" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 3:58:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Archie in love with black Pussycat
>
>
>
> She was using ARCHIE to get  her kid to  read more? Wow. How old's the kid?
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>
>
>
> Just another cheap attempt to revive a comic that no one reads. I only know
> one person that still reads Archie and she was buying it to get her daughter
> to read more.
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>
>>
>> http://africomics.com/comicbook_blog/2010/01/09/archie%E2%80%A6-and-valerie/
>>
>> Fresh from jilting two wives, Archie "Playa" Andrews is moving on to the
>> Pussycats, according to this morning's press release. We're not experts in
>> Archie continuity — whether it be comic or strip — so we're not certain if
>> these two have, er, fraternized before. Will Archie move on to Melody and
>> Josie in a universe spanning x-ver? It's a Brand New Day for Archie for
>> sure!
>>
>> Two of the greatest bands in comic book history hook up like never before
>> when Josie and the Pussycats come to town to tour with The Archies. However,
>> more than music is made on one starry night outside Archie's home, when
>> there's a kiss that could change Riverdale forever. Is it possible that the
>> pure-hearted, red-haired lead of The Archies is really falling in love with
>> Valerie, the beautiful bassist/songwriter of Josie and the Pussycats? What
>> will happen to Betty and Veronica? "It Starts with a Kiss" is the beginning
>> of a tale to be continued. Don't miss out while the world watches to see if
>> Archie and Valerie have what it takes to make their love survive. Look for
>> part one in Archie #608, hitting stores this April!
>> http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2010/01/06/archie-
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bloom Box fuel cell system could provide clean power to your home, and your car

[n1rogue]

He believes that everyone would have one in their basements for a mere $3,000. 
That is a lot of money in a small box. 
--Lavender
I love mankind - it's people I can't stand!


From: Mr. Worf 
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:03 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Bloom Box fuel cell system could provide clean power to 
your home, and your car


  

Bloom Box fuel cell system could provide clean power to your home, and your car
By Darren Quick

04:39 February 23, 2010

 
Bloom Energy founder, K.R. Sridhar, and the fuel cell that forms the heart of 
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The Bloom Box actually started life as a solar powered device to make oxygen 
for breathing and hydrogen to power vehicles on Mars as a part of a scrapped 
NASA project. Bloom Energy founder, K.R. Sridhar, realized that if he reversed 
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in the cell.

The secretive company has been operating for eight years and the 60 Minutes 
report was the first time the secret behind the Bloom Box has been revealed. 
Unlike many hydrogen fuel cells that require expensive precious metal, the 
Bloom box fuel cell is built from an extremely cheap ceramic material – sand.

The ceramic disks that form the core of the Box are painted with special “inks” 
– green on one side and black on the other. The disk acts as an electrode so 
that at high temperatures, a hydrocarbon fuel - ethanol, biodiesel, methane, or 
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the ions are pulled through the solid core, the resulting electrochemical 
reaction creates electricity.

The disks are stacked together separated by a cheap metal alloy. A stack of 64, 
which is around the size of a house brick, can generate enough power to run a 
small business. The size of the entire unit needs to be bigger to accommodate 
other components such as the fuel source supply.

Although the process consumes hydrocarbons, Sridhar says it emits only about 
half the greenhouse gases of conventional energy sources because it doesn't 
involve carbon-releasing combustion.

And because one of the byproducts of the Bloom Box is hydrogen, it could be 
used to create fuel for the next generation of hydrogen fuel cell powered 
vehicles. And in the meantime it can generate electricity to power hybrid and 
electric vehicles.

Fuel cells have promised so much over the years so it’s hardly surprising the 
skeptics have been out in force after the report. But lending credibility to 
the technology is the fact that companies such as Google and eBay have been 
trialing the Bloom Box. Bloom Boxes have apparently been powering a Google 
data-center for the past 18 months, while eBay claims its five Bloom Boxes have 
saved over US$100,000 in electricity costs over the past nine months.

Currently the boxes cost between US$700,000 and $800,000, but Sridhar thinks he 
can get the cost of one down to below US$3,000 making them affordable enough 
for every home. But he anticipates a five to ten year time-frame to accomplish 
this.

We'll be keeping an eye on this promising tech so stay tuned for more details 
after the launch this week.

The 60 Minutes report can be seen here.



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Re: [scifinoir2] Bloom Box fuel cell system could provide clean power to your home, and your car

[Mr. Worf]

I just watched it on the news tonight. Ebay has been using the larger units
for the last 9 months. They said that it saved them $100k on their electric
bill this year so far. The bigger units are about the size of a large
refrigerator and kick out enough power to run 100 homes each.

This could be a cheaper alternative to solar that will make the energy
companies happy. They have a natural gas powered version that the energy
companies could sell you natural gas.

Buying a unit like this if you have a hydrogen powered vehicle would almost
take you off the grid. That's a major step in the right direction.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:40 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> He believes that everyone would have one in their basements for a mere
> $3,000. That is a lot of money in a small box.
> --Lavender
> I love mankind - it's people I can't stand!
>
>  *From:* Mr. Worf 
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:03 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [scifinoir2] Bloom Box fuel cell system could provide clean
> power to your home, and your car
>
>
>
> Bloom Box fuel cell system could provide clean power to your home, and your
> car
>
> By Darren Quick 
>
> *04:39 February 23, 2010*
> [image: Bloom Energy founder, K.R. Sridhar, and the fuel cell that forms
> the heart of the Bloom 
> Bo...]
>
> Bloom Energy founder, K.R. Sridhar, and the fuel cell that forms the heart
> of the Bloom Box
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[scifinoir2] "Beauty and the Beast" on SyFy

[Keith Johnson]

I watched "Beauty and the Beast" on SyFy tonight. Another in a long line of 
hokey, camp, bad-CGI movies. The Beast looked just like the Sasquatch assistant 
on "Sanctuary". Most of the castles and scenery were really obvious, bad CGI. 
The "action" was pitiful: typically, Xena-like, there'd be about three or four 
dweeb actors trying to look like a whole squad of soldiers, then camera work 
was used to make them seem more plentiful. Only thing I can say is that it 
wasn't scary, but it was funny in that stupid, camp way that most of the SyFy 
Originals are. 
That followed a Robin Hood tale staring the Daniel Jackson clone from 
"Sanctuary", and Erica Durance ("Smallville") as Maid Marion. That movie wasn't 
much better than "Beauty and the Beast". The fighting was pretty bad, as none 
of the lead actors seemed to have much swordfighting ability. Although it too, 
made me laugh. And I guess there could be worse sights to see than Erica 
Durance!