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Re: [scifinoir2] The Name of This Film Is Dogme95

[Mr. Worf]

I read up on it a little on wikipedia. There were over 40 films made with a
small number that became popular. There is also a similar movement in the
book authoring community as well called the "New Puritans."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Puritans

One of the things the wiki
article said was that Dogme influenced mublecore style film making.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> I like it, Mr Worf. The idea of movies being about telling stories... it's
> a good thing.
>
> Martin (feel free to throw things at me for channeling Her Marthaness)
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I was watching another film this morning that led me to discover this film
>> movement. Here is some info about the film and the movement. What do you
>> think?
>> The Name of This Film Is Dogme95  (
>> 2000 ) More at 
>> *IMDbPro*
>>  »
>> ad feedback 
>>
>> The Name of this Film is Dogme95 is an irreverent documentary exploring
>> the origins of Dogme95, the most influential movement in world cinema for a
>> generation. The film tells how a 'brotherhood' of four Danish directors
>> armed with a radical Manifesto, has inspired, outraged and provoked
>> filmmakers and filmgoers the world over. The rules of Dogme95 take
>> filmmaking back to its brass-tacks - stories must be set in the here and
>> now; the films must be shot on location, with a handheld camera, using
>> natural light, and direct sound; the rules forbid murders and weapons
>> (staples of the much-loved action-movie genre); and, most amusingly, the
>> director must not be credited (that holds also for the director of The Name
>> of this Film is Dogme95...). Dogme95 was formally baptised in 1998 at the
>> Cannes Film Festival, when Martin Scorsese's jury awarded a top prize to
>> Thomas Vinterberg's Dogme#1: Festen, a disturbing story of sexual abuse in
>> an upper-class family. Then Lars von Trier himself raised the stakes of
>> controversy with his flabbergasting Dogme#2: The Idiots, about a group of
>> ne'er-do-wells who challenge their society and themselves by impersonating
>> spastics in public. By the time Søren Kragh-Jacobsen's Dogme#3: Mifune
>> triumphed at the 1999 Berlin Film Festival, Dogme95 had become the pride of
>> Denmark and the envy of all European cinema. An investigative journey, The
>> Name of this Film is Dogme95 is presented by film journalist and author
>> Richard Kelly. His voyage begins with a tongue-in-cheek deconstruction of
>> the conventions of a classic gangster-movie murder-scene. One-by one the
>> Dogme95 rules are imposed until the documentary itself is pure Dogme (well,
>> pure-ish!). Accompanied by a nimble digital video crew, Kelly travels to
>> Copenhagen to interrogate the ringleaders of the Dogme95 circus about the
>> cocktail of gossip and legend that has made Dogme95 such a public relations
>> success-story. *Written by 
>> Anonymous
>> *
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
> 

Re: [scifinoir2] New Scam: Microsoft Calling...

[Mr. Worf]

Don't hurt 'em Martin! Don't hurt 'em!

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> Let some fool call me, pretending to be M$... they won't be able to hear
> for a week after I'm done with them,
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Someone posted this link in another group. I thought it was interesting
>> and pass it on before they start calling people in the US. Note: This scam
>> has mostly happened in the UK but they could start calling people here or
>> doing a similar scam here.
>>
>> Just remember, Microsoft WILL NOT CALL YOU without you contacting them
>> first and asking them to call you back.
>>
>> Here is the link:
>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpsecurity/thread/be88f47d-a1ba-4b19-9303-4520575a8d9a
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
> 

Re: [scifinoir2] UM develops lasers to defend helicopters against missile attacks

[Mr. Worf]

There had been talk about it. I think they decided to go with the railgun
program.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> I just read a report on the laser-based 747. As long as they don't waste
> money trying to reinvigorate SDI, I'm good.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Yea, they have been using lasers to mark targets since the 70s. They are
>> developing 747s now that have lasers.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was about to blast this article for the ludicrous notion that lasers
>>> could knock anything at distance out of the sky (the power and focusing
>>> issues alone will preclude that for years to come), but the jamming factor
>>> does seem plausible.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>>>


  UM develops lasers to defend helicopters against missile attacks

 By Ben Coxworth 

 *11:36 September 4, 2010*

  [image: New laser technology could be used to protect military
 helicopters from heat-seeking 
 missi...]

 New laser technology could be used to protect military helicopters from
 heat-seeking missiles
  Laser Marking 
 Machines
  - 
 www.laserstar.net
 Permanent Laser Marking Equipment - Integrator Kits & Turnkey Systems
 Laser Marking 
 Machines
  - 
 www.ulsinc.com
 Etch photos onto marble, acrylic, anodized aluminum, wood and more.
 The New G2 RC 
 Helicopter
  - 
 www.XHeli.com

Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says

[Mr. Worf]

Most of the differences started about 50,000 years ago in how we look as
races. Once people began to move away from the African plains they began to
change. Most of this still theory though.

The last 2 percent of our DNA is jammed with a lot of info beyond looks but
if you are allergic to chocolate, your height, nose, how to react to a weird
sound, music, speech etc. Epigenomes come into play as well.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Robert Baker  wrote:

>
>
> So in essence, its just a matter of how far back you wish to go.
> Adaptations towards different environments can ultimately lead to the
> disparity and biases we humans indulge in today.  Are this adaptations the
> result of that last 2 percent or vica-versa?
>
> Robert D. Baker
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:51:15 -0700
>
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had
> Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says
>
>
>  That depends on the pieces of DNA that you are looking at. For example,
> almost every animal, insect, and reptile on the planet have similar DNA. The
> last 2 percent or so make the difference between an elephant and your
> neighbor. An even smaller part determines your racial makeup and contains
> your genetic history.
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Robert Baker  wrote:
>
>
>
> Question, if I may.  If Africa is the birthplace of mankind don't we all
> have the same roots?  One love. . .
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:44:11 +
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had
> Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says
>
>
>  Could be a million reasons. Don't know them, so can't say. Some do it
> because they honestly feel such areas have better quality of life (schools,
> homes, parks, etc). Some do it because they feel deep down that white is
> better--even if they can't admit it to themselves. I have some black friends
> like that, who live in majority white, very conservative areas. Always
> complaining about racism and stuff, but never seem to be able to find the
> will to move. Makes me impatient...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:38:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had
> Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says
>
>
>
> They live in the mostly white section of Marin county. The area is now much
> more integrated but back then it was about 99% white. They were doing pretty
> well though. (business owners, private school for the girls etc.) Thinking
> back, the lies that they told probably kept them alive in that area. I'm not
> sure why they moved there though.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Really? Where are they located?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:29:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had
> Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says
>
>
>  I think that there is a lot of demons in the closet on this topic that
> should be exercised.
>
> @Keith, I have family members that are passing for Portuguese. I only saw
> them twice when I was a kid. I wonder have any of them came out of the
> racial closet or not.
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Not at all a surprise. First, the Jewish thing was always noised about. I
> often joke to my wife, why didn't someone, during any of his mass rallies,
> look at him and say "Hey, waitaminute? Didn't he say 'blonde hair and blue
> eyes? WTF??" Secondly, given the centuries of exploration, migration, and
> conquest, a lot more Europeans have African and Asian blood in them than
> would like to admit.
> They need to do the same DNA tests on J. Edgar Hoover (rumoured to have
> black ancestry) and Babe Ruth (often called disparaging names for a black
> man by some of his white opponents). I've always been fascinated by people
> who've denied, hidden, or simply didn't know about their heritage. For
> example, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright didn't discover until
> the last few years that she was Jewish. Her family evidently tried to hide
> that fact, no doubt to avoid a lot of problems in American society. I found
> her surprise surprising, as I'd always assumed she was, based on her looks.
>
> I've long been happy that i'm obviously black, and didn't grow up in a
> time, place, or family where trying to pretend to be something else was
> either an option, a desire, or even a necessity. There's a scene in one of
> the Easy Rollins books--it might be "Devil in A Blue Dress--where Easy is
> staking out a hotel lobby. As he's sitting there, he notices a man sitting
> in a chair, well dressed, manicured nails, li

RE: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says

[Robert Baker]

So in essence, its just a matter of how far back you wish to go.  Adaptations 
towards different environments can ultimately lead to the disparity and biases 
we humans indulge in today.  Are this adaptations the result of that last 2 
percent or vica-versa?

Robert D. Baker


 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 00:51:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, 
African Roots, Daily Mail Says


  



That depends on the pieces of DNA that you are looking at. For example, almost 
every animal, insect, and reptile on the planet have similar DNA. The last 2 
percent or so make the difference between an elephant and your neighbor. An 
even smaller part determines your racial makeup and contains your genetic 
history. 


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Robert Baker  wrote:




Question, if I may.  If Africa is the birthplace of mankind don't we all have 
the same roots?  One love. . .



 


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:44:11 +
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, 
African Roots, Daily Mail Says

  



Could be a million reasons. Don't know them, so can't say. Some do it because 
they honestly feel such areas have better quality of life (schools, homes, 
parks, etc). Some do it because they feel deep down that white is better--even 
if they can't admit it to themselves. I have some black friends like that, who 
live in majority white, very conservative areas. Always complaining about 
racism and stuff, but never seem to be able to find the will to move. Makes me 
impatient...

- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:38:02 AM
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, 
African Roots, Daily Mail Says

  



They live in the mostly white section of Marin county. The area is now much 
more integrated but back then it was about 99% white. They were doing pretty 
well though. (business owners, private school for the girls etc.) Thinking 
back, the lies that they told probably kept them alive in that area. I'm not 
sure why they moved there though. 



On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





Really? Where are they located?

- Original Message -
From: "Mr. Worf" 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:29:50 PM
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, 
African Roots, Daily Mail Says

  


I think that there is a lot of demons in the closet on this topic that should 
be exercised. 



@Keith, I have family members that are passing for Portuguese. I only saw them 
twice when I was a kid. I wonder have any of them came out of the racial closet 
or not.  


On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





Not at all a surprise. First, the Jewish thing was always noised about. I often 
joke to my wife, why didn't someone, during any of his mass rallies, look at 
him and say "Hey, waitaminute? Didn't he say 'blonde hair and blue eyes? WTF??" 
Secondly, given the centuries of exploration, migration, and conquest, a lot 
more Europeans have African and Asian blood in them than would like to admit.
They need to do the same DNA tests on J. Edgar Hoover (rumoured to have black 
ancestry) and Babe Ruth (often called disparaging names for a black man by some 
of his white opponents). I've always been fascinated by people who've denied, 
hidden, or simply didn't know about their heritage. For example, former 
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright didn't discover until the last few years 
that she was Jewish. Her family evidently tried to hide that fact, no doubt to 
avoid a lot of problems in American society. I found her surprise surprising, 
as I'd always assumed she was, based on her looks. 

I've long been happy that i'm obviously black, and didn't grow up in a time, 
place, or family where trying to pretend to be something else was either an 
option, a desire, or even a necessity. There's a scene in one of the Easy 
Rollins books--it might be "Devil in A Blue Dress--where Easy is staking out a 
hotel lobby. As he's sitting there, he notices a man sitting in a chair, well 
dressed, manicured nails, light olive skin. Idly curious, Easy stares at the 
man for a sec. They make eye contact, and the man literally starts looking 
agitated. Easy quickly realizes that the man in is fact at least part Black, 
and is obviously passing for something else--Italian or Greek, most likely. 
Easy looks away, silently assuring the "brother" that he's not going to blow 
his cover, cause right or wrong, the man feels he has to hide like that. Easy 
wasn't going to judge him or cause him pain. 

I've often had to fight a kind of knee jerk disgust at people of color who've 
passed for white, or who deny their African roots while embracing the Europe

[scifinoir2] Variations in fine-structure constant

[Amy Harlib]

ahar...@earthlink.net
 Variations in fine-structure constant

> The linked news story below is, to me, a really fascinating discovery. The
> possibility that physical constants vary in a particular direction across
> space has huge ramifications.
>
> http://www.physorg.com/news202921592.html
>
> It'll be interesting to see if this is confirmed.
>
 

Re: [scifinoir2] Soladey Ionic toothbrush heads for new markets

[Martin Baxter]

If I gave that to my nine-year-old nephew, he wouldn't brush with it, just
put it in his mouth and stand closer to the light bulb. And he's not a dumb
kid by any stretch.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I think that it depends on what it is. Depending on calculators in math
> class is lazy. Having a toothbrush that does a better job is a good thing.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Interesting, but I'm leery of it. I've always seen some advances in
>> technology more as "aids to laziness", allowing people to get away with
>> doing less work. Not a good thing, IMO.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Soladey Ionic toothbrush heads for new markets
>>>
>>> By Ben Coxworth 
>>>
>>> *11:14 September 4, 2010*
>>>
>>> 2 
>>> Pictures
>>>  [image: The Solidey ionic toothbrush is claimed to be able to clean
>>> teeth using only light and 
>>> wat...]
>>>
>>> The Solidey ionic toothbrush is claimed to be able to clean teeth using
>>> only light and water
>>> *Image 
>>> Gallery
>>>  (2
>>> images)*
>>>  1/2 Price on 
>>> Oral-B®Power
>>>  - 
>>> www.Oralb.com/Power
>>> Get -50% Rebate on Specially Marked Packages. Find a Store Near You.
>>> Say Goodbye to 
>>> Dentures
>>>  - 
>>> pages.leadlife.com/ClearChoice
>>> Dental Implants in 1 Day. Are You Ready? Learn Your Dental Score Now.
>>> Buy Oral-B 
>>> Toothbrush
>>>  - 
>>> Toothbrush.CrestProHealth.com

Re: [scifinoir2] Half Scale Luxury Cars for Kids

[Martin Baxter]

A go-kart, but the rates aren't much lower, despite the size differential.
The thinking is that you'll go faster in it by instinct, therefore ou should
pay.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> As a go kart or as a car?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I believe that it varies. Here in Georgia, I believe that you do have to
>> insure those.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if they have to pay car insurance?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Martin Baxter 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 A... lost childhood. [?][?]

 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:

>
>
> That's why you get the one that has the dashboard that raises up. They
> also make a mini Ferrari 308GTS like Magnum PI, but for the price ($25000)
> you can buy a real one.
>
> Check out the half scale Nascar race track:
> http://www.arenaracinggr.com/about/
>
> Or this!
> http://www.racingjunk.com/category/22/Junior_Dragster/post/1927131/-2006-HALFSCALE-quot-BEST-OF-EVERYTHING-quot.html
>
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Martin Baxter  > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Okay... we all know that the grown-ups who buy them "for the kids" are
>> going to end up stuck in them themselves, right?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Half Scale Luxury Cars for 
>>> Kids
>>> September 5th, 2010 | Tech  |
>>>
>>> [image: Half Scale Luxury Cars for Kids]
>>>
>>> Harrington Group  sells half size
>>> replicas of classic luxury 
>>> cars that
>>> can be driven by children over the age of 6 and small adults.
>>>
>>> Powered by 50cc gas or a racing kart engine, all 
>>> cars
>>>  come
>>> with electric start, disk brakes, reverse gear, working lights and a 
>>> choice
>>> of manual or automatic transmission. [more 
>>> info
>>> ]
>>>
>>> [image: Cars for Kids]
>>> Half Scale Porsche 356
>>>
>>> [image: Tiny Car]
>>>
>>> [image: Red Porsche 356]
>>>
>>> [image: Porsche 356 Replica]
>>>
>>> [image: Half Scale Porsche 356]
>>> Half Scale Mercedes Benz 300SL
>>>
>>> [image: Half Scale Mercedes Benz 300SL]
>>>
>>> [image: Half Scale Mercedes Benz]
>>> Half Scale Jaguar E-type
>>>
>>> [image: Half Scale Jaguar E-type]
>>>
>>> [image: Half Scale Jaguar]
>>> Half Scale Bugatti T35
>>>
>>> [image: Half Scale Bugatti T35]
>>>
>>> [image: Bugatti]
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>


 --
 "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
>> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
<<330.gif>><<347.gif>>

Re: [scifinoir2] Try this at home...

[Martin Baxter]

Ooohh... hot and carrying. [?]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> "She's" gone now. I think that they took it down because of the
> bandwidth usage.  Here is a short article on it:
> http://evb.com/work/ms-dewey-microsoft/
>  
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> No. Heard of it, but never found the time to get there.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you ever try that UK search engine that talked back to you? It had a
>>> bunch of quips like that.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Martin Baxter 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 LMNAATWO!!!

 Last year, Mr Worf, I recall Google doing this as well, but doing what
 you said would then take you to a page that said something to the effect of
 "No... you really aren't feeling that lucky."


 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:

>
>
> Go to Google and type in Where is Chuck Norris, then press I'm Feeling
> Lucky.
>



 --
 "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
>> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
<<327.gif>>

Re: [scifinoir2] UM develops lasers to defend helicopters against missile attacks

[Martin Baxter]

I just read a report on the laser-based 747. As long as they don't waste
money trying to reinvigorate SDI, I'm good.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> Yea, they have been using lasers to mark targets since the 70s. They are
> developing 747s now that have lasers.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I was about to blast this article for the ludicrous notion that lasers
>> could knock anything at distance out of the sky (the power and focusing
>> issues alone will preclude that for years to come), but the jamming factor
>> does seem plausible.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  UM develops lasers to defend helicopters against missile attacks
>>>
>>> By Ben Coxworth 
>>>
>>> *11:36 September 4, 2010*
>>>
>>>  [image: New laser technology could be used to protect military
>>> helicopters from heat-seeking 
>>> missi...]
>>>
>>> New laser technology could be used to protect military helicopters from
>>> heat-seeking missiles
>>>  Laser Marking 
>>> Machines
>>>  - 
>>> www.laserstar.net
>>> Permanent Laser Marking Equipment - Integrator Kits & Turnkey Systems
>>> Laser Marking 
>>> Machines
>>>  - 
>>> www.ulsinc.com
>>> Etch photos onto marble, acrylic, anodized aluminum, wood and more.
>>> The New G2 RC 
>>> Helicopter
>>>  - 
>>> www.XHeli.com
>>> 100% Assembled, 6-Ch Ready to Fly Lowest Price Online - Fast Shipping
>>> NuWave® Oven 
>>> Pro

Re: [scifinoir2] New Scam: Microsoft Calling...

[Martin Baxter]

Let some fool call me, pretending to be M$... they won't be able to hear for
a week after I'm done with them,

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> Someone posted this link in another group. I thought it was interesting and
> pass it on before they start calling people in the US. Note: This scam has
> mostly happened in the UK but they could start calling people here or doing
> a similar scam here.
>
> Just remember, Microsoft WILL NOT CALL YOU without you contacting them
> first and asking them to call you back.
>
> Here is the link:
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpsecurity/thread/be88f47d-a1ba-4b19-9303-4520575a8d9a
>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] The Name of This Film Is Dogme95

[Martin Baxter]

I like it, Mr Worf. The idea of movies being about telling stories... it's a
good thing.

Martin (feel free to throw things at me for channeling Her Marthaness)

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I was watching another film this morning that led me to discover this film
> movement. Here is some info about the film and the movement. What do you
> think?
> The Name of This Film Is Dogme95  (
> 2000 ) More at 
> *IMDbPro*
>  »
> ad feedback 
>
> The Name of this Film is Dogme95 is an irreverent documentary exploring the
> origins of Dogme95, the most influential movement in world cinema for a
> generation. The film tells how a 'brotherhood' of four Danish directors
> armed with a radical Manifesto, has inspired, outraged and provoked
> filmmakers and filmgoers the world over. The rules of Dogme95 take
> filmmaking back to its brass-tacks - stories must be set in the here and
> now; the films must be shot on location, with a handheld camera, using
> natural light, and direct sound; the rules forbid murders and weapons
> (staples of the much-loved action-movie genre); and, most amusingly, the
> director must not be credited (that holds also for the director of The Name
> of this Film is Dogme95...). Dogme95 was formally baptised in 1998 at the
> Cannes Film Festival, when Martin Scorsese's jury awarded a top prize to
> Thomas Vinterberg's Dogme#1: Festen, a disturbing story of sexual abuse in
> an upper-class family. Then Lars von Trier himself raised the stakes of
> controversy with his flabbergasting Dogme#2: The Idiots, about a group of
> ne'er-do-wells who challenge their society and themselves by impersonating
> spastics in public. By the time Søren Kragh-Jacobsen's Dogme#3: Mifune
> triumphed at the 1999 Berlin Film Festival, Dogme95 had become the pride of
> Denmark and the envy of all European cinema. An investigative journey, The
> Name of this Film is Dogme95 is presented by film journalist and author
> Richard Kelly. His voyage begins with a tongue-in-cheek deconstruction of
> the conventions of a classic gangster-movie murder-scene. One-by one the
> Dogme95 rules are imposed until the documentary itself is pure Dogme (well,
> pure-ish!). Accompanied by a nimble digital video crew, Kelly travels to
> Copenhagen to interrogate the ringleaders of the Dogme95 circus about the
> cocktail of gossip and legend that has made Dogme95 such a public relations
> success-story. *Written by 
> Anonymous
> *
>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] Right Wing-nuts see "Machete" as harbinger of race war

[Martin Baxter]

rave, maybe we should feed him a rumor that the right wing is actually a
vast left-wing conspiracy...

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

>
>
> http://www.infowars.com/machete-producers-lied-about-racial-violence/
>
> `Machete' producers lied about racist bloodbath
>
> Machete `race war' confirmed as tax rebates still in question for
> anti-Texas, pro-immigration film
> Aaron Dykes & Alex Jones
> Prison Planet.com
> Sunday, September 5, 2010
> `Machete' reached the #3 spot at the box office opening weekend. But after
> viewing the film, it is clear that its producers lied about the extent of
> the film's racial message, which includes vulgar atrocities, including the
> killing of a pregnant woman attempting to cross the border during one of the
> opening scenes. This deception about the film's message could bring its tax
> incentives, worth millions in production costs, into question.
> When Alex Jones expressed concern in May that a leaked script portrayed
> white characters as vehemently racist and wantonly murderous, or that a
> Latino mob is roused to take on border vigilantes in racial conflict,
> director Rodriguez assured Ain't It Cool News, that he'd `had too much
> tequila,' and that those types of scenes wouldn't make it to the final
> edited version. Producer Elizabeth Avellan went on the attack just before
> the release, defending the tax incentives `Machete' had practically already
> been assured. Avellan denounced the `uproar over the film' as "unfounded and
> unnecessary," stating there was `no reason for a denial of incentives':
> "A lot of people made up a lot of stuff in terms of what the movie is about
> and who the bad guy is," she said. "There were a lot of things that people
> misconstrued … without even knowing the script and pretending they have a
> script."
> Now there is no doubt. Everything Jones quoted from the script was on
> screen in one form or another– and its tone was clear: opposition to illegal
> immigration is tantamount to murder, white racism and vile Machiavellian
> scheming. One scene that was excised from the script repeated the one-sided
> demonization of the Freedom Force vigilantes, who were to murder a young
> child on the border at the end. However, that ending was left behind for a
> different sequence altogether.
> Reviewers like `Big Hollywood' panned the film as `Dull, Convoluted, Racist
> and Anti-American,' criticizing that: "'Machete' offers no middle ground, no
> reasonable, non-racist position against wide open borders for those fleeing
> from what one character describes as the "personal hell" that is Mexico."
> Who the illegals fight against on screen is one thing. What their words
> mean is altogether something else. That's the shell game Rodriguez plays and
> his racially divisive messaging goes way beyond the normal cinematic
> political posturing and button-pushing. And you will never see a more
> stereotypically racist portrayal of Southerners, who, in an obvious
> reference to the border Minute Men, are not only played for cheap laughs but
> portrayed as sub-human animals who hunt and murder illegals – kill a
> helpless pregnant woman and say "Welcome to America."
> Rodriguez & crew played everyone as fools, knowing full well what the film
> would contain. Does Texas want to subsidize the films of Robert Rodriguez
> and continue to give him a platform to spew divisive racially-tinted trash
> oriented at Hispanics and attempting to radicalize their views? Rodriguez is
> the face of the Texas Film Commission's tax incentives program, and has been
> virtually guaranteed up to $60 million in rebate funding for a package of
> films.
>
> Blood-soaked and dripping with hate
> It wasn't the extreme levels of violence or its nudity that made this film
> so offensive; it was the one-sided approval of Hispanic revenge killings
> while uniformly demonizing the actions of the white groups involved. Though
> the head Mexican drug lord was the ultimate enemy, he was served exclusively
> by white politicians and radical groups; everyone in `The Network' worked
> against him.
> What's more, the film was marketed towards Hispanic groups, including
> widespread promotion throughout Latin America, featuring a poster with an
> image of a blood-dripping machete (the symbol of peasant uprising). Now
> Hollywood's exports aren't just American cultural hegemony, but a
> weaponized-subsection of radicalized Latino culture that draws in crowds by
> playing to Hispanic supremacy.
> `Machete' star Danny Trejo embraced his image as the `the first Latino
> superstar' in an interview with HipHopNation.com, stating "It's an honor to
> be considered the first Latino superstar. Or I should say the first Latino
> action hero!" He continued:
> "I think Hollywood is afraid to realize that the Latino audience is the
> largest that they've got. As long as they think that a Latino can't carry a
> movie, its going to stay that way. Robert Rodriguez who is innovative and
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Kick-butt chick genre gets reboot

[Martin Baxter]

Exactly. Add on the dreaded r-word... I'm out.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I was going to post about this show but I have my doubts about it. There
> are too many shows like this that are on the air right now. Like Covert
> Affairs.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>
>> http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/4361504
>>
>> July 31--BEVERLY HILLS
>>
>> Surely it is written somewhere in the vast television bylaws that prime
>> time needs to be routinely restocked with stunningly beautiful, lethal
>> women. Buffy, Xena, Sydney Bristow -- they're all gone now, but the
>> remarkable kick-butt-itude they fostered must live on.
>>
>> And so The CW has graciously stepped up to fill the quota with a
>> high-octane new fall series called "Nikita" starring Maggie Q. Perhaps
>> you've seen her in one of the show's red-hot promotional posters: Legs that
>> go on forever and a sleek body adorned in an artsy tattoo and just a touch
>> of leather.
>>
>> Oh, and she's brandishing a gun.
>>
>> "Nikita" is a reboot (TV execs just love that word) of the USA cable hit
>> "La Femme
>>
>> Nikita," which itself was a remake of the original French film, which also
>> inspired an American flick starring Bridget Fonda. Clearly, in pop culture,
>> what goes around comes around.
>>
>> The Hawaiian-born Maggie got her start in a series of Hong Kong action
>> films and has shown off her skills in American flicks such as "Mission
>> Impossible III," so the woman can brawl with the best of them.
>>
>> Still, the grueling pace of television presents a heightened challenge.
>>
>> "I'm half Asian, so (people) immediately go, 'Oh, well, you do kung fu,' "
>> she told TV critics gathered here for their summer press tour. "Like that's
>> what we all do. We wake up. We brush our teeth and do kung fu. So it's just
>> assumed that you're not working your butt off --
>>
>> to make this believable and great. And we absolutely are."
>>
>> In "Nikita," which premieres Sept. 9, Maggie plays a former spy and
>> assassin who has vowed to bring down the shadowy government agency that
>> trained her. She is instantly captivating. The pilot episode bursts with
>> vibrant action sequences and surprising twists that set it apart from other
>> versions of the saga.
>>
>> "That was my first challenge ... to find a way to do it fresh," says
>> executive producer Craig Silverstein. " ... Could we have a take where you
>> didn't know how this story was going to end? ... So it's not a rehash."
>>
>> Like Jennifer Garner in "Alias," Maggie will need to go undercover a lot,
>> meaning she'll be forced to don everything from skimpy swimwear to gorgeous
>> evening gowns. It's something she doesn't exactly crave.
>>
>> "I've gotten to that point," she says, "where I'm so used to being sort of
>> sweaty and wearing pants and sitting like a guy in boots and the whole
>> thing, that when I'm dressed up and people are touching me up, I'm less
>> comfortable.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Post your SciFiNoir Profile at
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo!
>> Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

[scifinoir2] The Name of This Film Is Dogme95

[Mr. Worf]

I was watching another film this morning that led me to discover this film
movement. Here is some info about the film and the movement. What do you
think?
The Name of This Film Is Dogme95  (
2000 ) More at
*IMDbPro*
 »
ad feedback 

The Name of this Film is Dogme95 is an irreverent documentary exploring the
origins of Dogme95, the most influential movement in world cinema for a
generation. The film tells how a 'brotherhood' of four Danish directors
armed with a radical Manifesto, has inspired, outraged and provoked
filmmakers and filmgoers the world over. The rules of Dogme95 take
filmmaking back to its brass-tacks - stories must be set in the here and
now; the films must be shot on location, with a handheld camera, using
natural light, and direct sound; the rules forbid murders and weapons
(staples of the much-loved action-movie genre); and, most amusingly, the
director must not be credited (that holds also for the director of The Name
of this Film is Dogme95...). Dogme95 was formally baptised in 1998 at the
Cannes Film Festival, when Martin Scorsese's jury awarded a top prize to
Thomas Vinterberg's Dogme#1: Festen, a disturbing story of sexual abuse in
an upper-class family. Then Lars von Trier himself raised the stakes of
controversy with his flabbergasting Dogme#2: The Idiots, about a group of
ne'er-do-wells who challenge their society and themselves by impersonating
spastics in public. By the time Søren Kragh-Jacobsen's Dogme#3: Mifune
triumphed at the 1999 Berlin Film Festival, Dogme95 had become the pride of
Denmark and the envy of all European cinema. An investigative journey, The
Name of this Film is Dogme95 is presented by film journalist and author
Richard Kelly. His voyage begins with a tongue-in-cheek deconstruction of
the conventions of a classic gangster-movie murder-scene. One-by one the
Dogme95 rules are imposed until the documentary itself is pure Dogme (well,
pure-ish!). Accompanied by a nimble digital video crew, Kelly travels to
Copenhagen to interrogate the ringleaders of the Dogme95 circus about the
cocktail of gossip and legend that has made Dogme95 such a public relations
success-story. *Written by
Anonymous
*

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Right Wing-nuts see "Machete" as harbinger of race war

[Mr. Worf]

Yea! I posted about it a while back when it was on IFC. He is basically a
Rush clone with a conspiracy bent.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Bosco Bosco  wrote:

>
>
> Yep that dude is more than a few slices short of a loaf. he's the biggest
> conspiracy nut on the planet I am almost certain. There's a great
> documentary of Alex Jones trying to catch some secret society in the act of
> some kind of nefarious world controlling deed at an annual convention in the
> woods. It's great because he never catches anyone and because he never gives
> inch in his conspiracy dogma.
>
> B
>
> --- On *Tue, 9/7/10, Mr. Worf * wrote:
>
>
> From: Mr. Worf 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Right Wing-nuts see "Machete" as harbinger of
> race war
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 8:17 AM
>
>
>
>
> First off this should come with a SPOILER ALERT. Secondly, Alex Jones is a
> right winged wack job.
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Kelwyn 
> http://mc/compose?to=ravena...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Box Office Mojo says 60% of Machete's audience was Hispanic.  I don't
> believe I have ever heard of that particular demographic breakdown before.
>  I also wonder how they came to that determination.
>
> ~rave?
>
> --- In 
> scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com,
> "Kelwyn"  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.infowars.com/machete-producers-lied-about-racial-violence/
> >
> > `Machete' producers lied about racist bloodbath
> >
> > Machete `race war' confirmed as tax rebates still in question for
> anti-Texas, pro-immigration film
> > Aaron Dykes & Alex Jones
> > Prison Planet.com
> > Sunday, September 5, 2010
> > `Machete' reached the #3 spot at the box office opening weekend. But
> after viewing the film, it is clear that its producers lied about the extent
> of the film's racial message, which includes vulgar atrocities, including
> the killing of a pregnant woman attempting to cross the border during one of
> the opening scenes. This deception about the film's message could bring its
> tax incentives, worth millions in production costs, into question.
> > When Alex Jones expressed concern in May that a leaked script portrayed
> white characters as vehemently racist and wantonly murderous, or that a
> Latino mob is roused to take on border vigilantes in racial conflict,
> director Rodriguez assured Ain't It Cool News, that he'd `had too much
> tequila,' and that those types of scenes wouldn't make it to the final
> edited version. Producer Elizabeth Avellan went on the attack just before
> the release, defending the tax incentives `Machete' had practically already
> been assured. Avellan denounced the `uproar over the film' as "unfounded and
> unnecessary," stating there was `no reason for a denial of incentives':
> > "A lot of people made up a lot of stuff in terms of what the movie is
> about and who the bad guy is," she said. "There were a lot of things that
> people misconstrued … without even knowing the script and pretending they
> have a script."
> > Now there is no doubt. Everything Jones quoted from the script was on
> screen in one form or another– and its tone was clear: opposition to illegal
> immigration is tantamount to murder, white racism and vile Machiavellian
> scheming. One scene that was excised from the script repeated the one-sided
> demonization of the Freedom Force vigilantes, who were to murder a young
> child on the border at the end. However, that ending was left behind for a
> different sequence altogether.
> > Reviewers like `Big Hollywood' panned the film as `Dull, Convoluted,
> Racist and Anti-American,' criticizing that: "'Machete' offers no middle
> ground, no reasonable, non-racist position against wide open borders for
> those fleeing from what one character describes as the "personal hell" that
> is Mexico."
> > Who the illegals fight against on screen is one thing. What their words
> mean is altogether something else. That's the shell game Rodriguez plays and
> his racially divisive messaging goes way beyond the normal cinematic
> political posturing and button-pushing. And you will never see a more
> stereotypically racist portrayal of Southerners, who, in an obvious
> reference to the border Minute Men, are not only played for cheap laughs but
> portrayed as sub-human animals who hunt and murder illegals – kill a
> helpless pregnant woman and say "Welcome to America."
> > Rodriguez & crew played everyone as fools, knowing full well what the
> film would contain. Does Texas want to subsidize the films of Robert
> Rodriguez and continue to give him a platform to spew divisive
> racially-tinted trash oriented at Hispanics and attempting to radicalize
> their views? Rodriguez is the face of the Texas Film Commission's tax
> incentives program, and has been virtually guaranteed up to $60 million in
> rebate funding for a package of films.
> >
> > Blood-soaked and dripping with hate
> > It wasn't the extreme levels of violence or its 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Right Wing-nuts see "Machete" as harbinger of race war

[Bosco Bosco]

Yep that dude is more than a few slices short of a loaf. he's the biggest 
conspiracy nut on the planet I am almost certain. There's a great documentary 
of Alex Jones trying to catch some secret society in the act of some kind of 
nefarious world controlling deed at an annual convention in the woods. It's 
great because he never catches anyone and because he never gives inch in his 
conspiracy dogma.

B

--- On Tue, 9/7/10, Mr. Worf  wrote:

From: Mr. Worf 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Right Wing-nuts see "Machete" as harbinger of 
race war
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 8:17 AM







 



  



  
  
  First off this should come with a SPOILER ALERT. Secondly, Alex Jones is 
a right winged wack job.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

Box Office Mojo says 60% of Machete's audience was Hispanic.  I don't believe I 
have ever heard of that particular demographic breakdown before.  I also wonder 
how they came to that determination.




~rave?



--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:

>

> http://www.infowars.com/machete-producers-lied-about-racial-violence/

>

> `Machete' producers lied about racist bloodbath

>

> Machete `race war' confirmed as tax rebates still in question for anti-Texas, 
> pro-immigration film

> Aaron Dykes & Alex Jones

> Prison Planet.com

> Sunday, September 5, 2010

> `Machete' reached the #3 spot at the box office opening weekend. But after 
> viewing the film, it is clear that its producers lied about the extent of the 
> film's racial message, which includes vulgar atrocities, including the 
> killing of a pregnant woman attempting to cross the border during one of the 
> opening scenes. This deception about the film's message could bring its tax 
> incentives, worth millions in production costs, into question.


> When Alex Jones expressed concern in May that a leaked script portrayed white 
> characters as vehemently racist and wantonly murderous, or that a Latino mob 
> is roused to take on border vigilantes in racial conflict, director Rodriguez 
> assured Ain't It Cool News, that he'd `had too much tequila,' and that those 
> types of scenes wouldn't make it to the final edited version. Producer 
> Elizabeth Avellan went on the attack just before the release, defending the 
> tax incentives `Machete' had practically already been assured. Avellan 
> denounced the `uproar over the film' as "unfounded and unnecessary," stating 
> there was `no reason for a denial of incentives':


> "A lot of people made up a lot of stuff in terms of what the movie is about 
> and who the bad guy is," she said. "There were a lot of things that people 
> misconstrued … without even knowing the script and pretending they have a 
> script."


> Now there is no doubt. Everything Jones quoted from the script was on screen 
> in one form or another– and its tone was clear: opposition to illegal 
> immigration is tantamount to murder, white racism and vile Machiavellian 
> scheming. One scene that was excised from the script repeated the one-sided 
> demonization of the Freedom Force vigilantes, who were to murder a young 
> child on the border at the end. However, that ending was left behind for a 
> different sequence altogether.


> Reviewers like `Big Hollywood' panned the film as `Dull, Convoluted, Racist 
> and Anti-American,' criticizing that: "'Machete' offers no middle ground, no 
> reasonable, non-racist position against wide open borders for those fleeing 
> from what one character describes as the "personal hell" that is Mexico."


> Who the illegals fight against on screen is one thing. What their words mean 
> is altogether something else. That's the shell game Rodriguez plays and his 
> racially divisive messaging goes way beyond the normal cinematic political 
> posturing and button-pushing. And you will never see a more stereotypically 
> racist portrayal of Southerners, who, in an obvious reference to the border 
> Minute Men, are not only played for cheap laughs but portrayed as sub-human 
> animals who hunt and murder illegals – kill a helpless pregnant woman and say 
> "Welcome to America."


> Rodriguez & crew played everyone as fools, knowing full well what the film 
> would contain. Does Texas want to subsidize the films of Robert Rodriguez and 
> continue to give him a platform to spew divisive racially-tinted trash 
> oriented at Hispanics and attempting to radicalize their views? Rodriguez is 
> the face of the Texas Film Commission's tax incentives program, and has been 
> virtually guaranteed up to $60 million in rebate funding for a package of 
> films.


>

> Blood-soaked and dripping with hate

> It wasn't the extreme levels of violence or its nudity that made this film so 
> offensive; it was the one-sided approval of Hispanic revenge killings while 
> uniformly demonizing the actions of the white groups involved. Though the 
> head Mexican drug lord was the ultimate enemy, he was served

Re: [scifinoir2] Kick-butt chick genre gets reboot

[Mr. Worf]

I was going to post about this show but I have my doubts about it. There are
too many shows like this that are on the air right now. Like Covert
Affairs.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/4361504
>
> July 31--BEVERLY HILLS
>
> Surely it is written somewhere in the vast television bylaws that prime
> time needs to be routinely restocked with stunningly beautiful, lethal
> women. Buffy, Xena, Sydney Bristow -- they're all gone now, but the
> remarkable kick-butt-itude they fostered must live on.
>
> And so The CW has graciously stepped up to fill the quota with a
> high-octane new fall series called "Nikita" starring Maggie Q. Perhaps
> you've seen her in one of the show's red-hot promotional posters: Legs that
> go on forever and a sleek body adorned in an artsy tattoo and just a touch
> of leather.
>
> Oh, and she's brandishing a gun.
>
> "Nikita" is a reboot (TV execs just love that word) of the USA cable hit
> "La Femme
>
> Nikita," which itself was a remake of the original French film, which also
> inspired an American flick starring Bridget Fonda. Clearly, in pop culture,
> what goes around comes around.
>
> The Hawaiian-born Maggie got her start in a series of Hong Kong action
> films and has shown off her skills in American flicks such as "Mission
> Impossible III," so the woman can brawl with the best of them.
>
> Still, the grueling pace of television presents a heightened challenge.
>
> "I'm half Asian, so (people) immediately go, 'Oh, well, you do kung fu,' "
> she told TV critics gathered here for their summer press tour. "Like that's
> what we all do. We wake up. We brush our teeth and do kung fu. So it's just
> assumed that you're not working your butt off --
>
> to make this believable and great. And we absolutely are."
>
> In "Nikita," which premieres Sept. 9, Maggie plays a former spy and
> assassin who has vowed to bring down the shadowy government agency that
> trained her. She is instantly captivating. The pilot episode bursts with
> vibrant action sequences and surprising twists that set it apart from other
> versions of the saga.
>
> "That was my first challenge ... to find a way to do it fresh," says
> executive producer Craig Silverstein. " ... Could we have a take where you
> didn't know how this story was going to end? ... So it's not a rehash."
>
> Like Jennifer Garner in "Alias," Maggie will need to go undercover a lot,
> meaning she'll be forced to don everything from skimpy swimwear to gorgeous
> evening gowns. It's something she doesn't exactly crave.
>
> "I've gotten to that point," she says, "where I'm so used to being sort of
> sweaty and wearing pants and sitting like a guy in boots and the whole
> thing, that when I'm dressed up and people are touching me up, I'm less
> comfortable.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Post your SciFiNoir Profile at
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>

[scifinoir2] Kick-butt chick genre gets reboot

[Kelwyn]

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/4361504

July 31--BEVERLY HILLS

Surely it is written somewhere in the vast television bylaws that prime time 
needs to be routinely restocked with stunningly beautiful, lethal women. Buffy, 
Xena, Sydney Bristow -- they're all gone now, but the remarkable 
kick-butt-itude they fostered must live on.

And so The CW has graciously stepped up to fill the quota with a high-octane 
new fall series called "Nikita" starring Maggie Q. Perhaps you've seen her in 
one of the show's red-hot promotional posters: Legs that go on forever and a 
sleek body adorned in an artsy tattoo and just a touch of leather.

Oh, and she's brandishing a gun.

"Nikita" is a reboot (TV execs just love that word) of the USA cable hit "La 
Femme

Nikita," which itself was a remake of the original French film, which also 
inspired an American flick starring Bridget Fonda. Clearly, in pop culture, 
what goes around comes around.

The Hawaiian-born Maggie got her start in a series of Hong Kong action films 
and has shown off her skills in American flicks such as "Mission Impossible 
III," so the woman can brawl with the best of them.

Still, the grueling pace of television presents a heightened challenge.

"I'm half Asian, so (people) immediately go, 'Oh, well, you do kung fu,' " she 
told TV critics gathered here for their summer press tour. "Like that's what we 
all do. We wake up. We brush our teeth and do kung fu. So it's just assumed 
that you're not working your butt off --

to make this believable and great. And we absolutely are."

In "Nikita," which premieres Sept. 9, Maggie plays a former spy and assassin 
who has vowed to bring down the shadowy government agency that trained her. She 
is instantly captivating. The pilot episode bursts with vibrant action 
sequences and surprising twists that set it apart from other versions of the 
saga.

"That was my first challenge ... to find a way to do it fresh," says executive 
producer Craig Silverstein. " ... Could we have a take where you didn't know 
how this story was going to end? ... So it's not a rehash."

Like Jennifer Garner in "Alias," Maggie will need to go undercover a lot, 
meaning she'll be forced to don everything from skimpy swimwear to gorgeous 
evening gowns. It's something she doesn't exactly crave.

"I've gotten to that point," she says, "where I'm so used to being sort of 
sweaty and wearing pants and sitting like a guy in boots and the whole thing, 
that when I'm dressed up and people are touching me up, I'm less comfortable.

[scifinoir2] New Scam: Microsoft Calling...

[Mr. Worf]

Someone posted this link in another group. I thought it was interesting and
pass it on before they start calling people in the US. Note: This scam has
mostly happened in the UK but they could start calling people here or doing
a similar scam here.

Just remember, Microsoft WILL NOT CALL YOU without you contacting them first
and asking them to call you back.

Here is the link:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpsecurity/thread/be88f47d-a1ba-4b19-9303-4520575a8d9a

Re: [scifinoir2] Toshiba unveils Folio 100 media tablet at IFA

[Mr. Worf]

There's an army of Ipad tablet clones coming out. I'm not sure which one
will be the winner if any.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> Mr Worf, right now, someone who dropped their ducats on an iPad is seeing
> this and twisting their knee trying to kick themselves.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  Toshiba unveils Folio 100 media tablet at IFA
>>
>> By Paul Ridden 
>>
>> *07:42 September 3, 2010*
>>
>> 15 
>> Pictures
>>  [image: Toshiba's Folio 100 media tablet at IFA 
>> 2010]
>>
>> Toshiba's Folio 100 media tablet at IFA 2010
>> *Image 
>> Gallery
>>  (15
>> images)*
>>  Top 5 Tablet 
>> Pcs
>>  - 
>> NetShoppers.com
>> Looking for Tablet Pcs Get your Free Buying Guide Now!
>> HDMI HD 1080p 
>> Projector
>>  - 
>> www.hdprojectorworld.com
>> HDMI HD 1080p Projector in stock. Free Shipping ends on Tues 11PM.
>> Samsung LED, Plasma 3D 
>> TV
>>  - 
>> www.modia.com
>> Extra 10% OFF, Free Shipping Authorized Dealer Call 8

Re: [scifinoir2] Soladey Ionic toothbrush heads for new markets

[Mr. Worf]

I think that it depends on what it is. Depending on calculators in math
class is lazy. Having a toothbrush that does a better job is a good thing.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:32 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> Interesting, but I'm leery of it. I've always seen some advances in
> technology more as "aids to laziness", allowing people to get away with
> doing less work. Not a good thing, IMO.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  Soladey Ionic toothbrush heads for new markets
>>
>> By Ben Coxworth 
>>
>> *11:14 September 4, 2010*
>>
>> 2 
>> Pictures
>>  [image: The Solidey ionic toothbrush is claimed to be able to clean
>> teeth using only light and 
>> wat...]
>>
>> The Solidey ionic toothbrush is claimed to be able to clean teeth using
>> only light and water
>> *Image 
>> Gallery
>>  (2
>> images)*
>>  1/2 Price on 
>> Oral-B®Power
>>  - 
>> www.Oralb.com/Power
>> Get -50% Rebate on Specially Marked Packages. Find a Store Near You.
>> Say Goodbye to 
>> Dentures
>>  - 
>> pages.leadlife.com/ClearChoice
>> Dental Implants in 1 Day. Are You Ready? Learn Your Dental Score Now.
>> Buy Oral-B 
>> Toothbrush
>>  - 
>> Toothbrush.CrestProHealth.com
>> Gentle Clean Toothbrush: Tough On Plaque, Gentle On Gums. Buy Now.
>> New Oral-B® 
>> Toothbrush

Re: [scifinoir2] UM develops lasers to defend helicopters against missile attacks

[Mr. Worf]

Yea, they have been using lasers to mark targets since the 70s. They are
developing 747s now that have lasers.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> I was about to blast this article for the ludicrous notion that lasers
> could knock anything at distance out of the sky (the power and focusing
> issues alone will preclude that for years to come), but the jamming factor
> does seem plausible.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  UM develops lasers to defend helicopters against missile attacks
>>
>> By Ben Coxworth 
>>
>> *11:36 September 4, 2010*
>>
>>  [image: New laser technology could be used to protect military
>> helicopters from heat-seeking 
>> missi...]
>>
>> New laser technology could be used to protect military helicopters from
>> heat-seeking missiles
>>  Laser Marking 
>> Machines
>>  - 
>> www.laserstar.net
>> Permanent Laser Marking Equipment - Integrator Kits & Turnkey Systems
>> Laser Marking 
>> Machines
>>  - 
>> www.ulsinc.com
>> Etch photos onto marble, acrylic, anodized aluminum, wood and more.
>> The New G2 RC 
>> Helicopter
>>  - 
>> www.XHeli.com
>> 100% Assembled, 6-Ch Ready to Fly Lowest Price Online - Fast Shipping
>> NuWave® Oven 
>> Pro

Re: [scifinoir2] Try this at home...

[Mr. Worf]

"She's" gone now. I think that they took it down because of the
bandwidth usage.  Here is a short article on it:
http://evb.com/work/ms-dewey-microsoft/


On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> No. Heard of it, but never found the time to get there.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Did you ever try that UK search engine that talked back to you? It had a
>> bunch of quips like that.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LMNAATWO!!!
>>>
>>> Last year, Mr Worf, I recall Google doing this as well, but doing what
>>> you said would then take you to a page that said something to the effect of
>>> "No... you really aren't feeling that lucky."
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>>>


 Go to Google and type in Where is Chuck Norris, then press I'm Feeling
 Lucky.

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
> 
>

Re: [scifinoir2] Half Scale Luxury Cars for Kids

[Mr. Worf]

As a go kart or as a car?

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:

>
>
> I believe that it varies. Here in Georgia, I believe that you do have to
> insure those.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I wonder if they have to pay car insurance?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A... lost childhood. [?][?]
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>>>


 That's why you get the one that has the dashboard that raises up. They
 also make a mini Ferrari 308GTS like Magnum PI, but for the price ($25000)
 you can buy a real one.

 Check out the half scale Nascar race track:
 http://www.arenaracinggr.com/about/

 Or this!
 http://www.racingjunk.com/category/22/Junior_Dragster/post/1927131/-2006-HALFSCALE-quot-BEST-OF-EVERYTHING-quot.html


 

 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Martin Baxter 
 wrote:

>
>
> Okay... we all know that the grown-ups who buy them "for the kids" are
> going to end up stuck in them themselves, right?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Half Scale Luxury Cars for 
>> Kids
>> September 5th, 2010 | Tech  |
>>
>> [image: Half Scale Luxury Cars for Kids]
>>
>> Harrington Group  sells half size
>> replicas of classic luxury 
>> cars that
>> can be driven by children over the age of 6 and small adults.
>>
>> Powered by 50cc gas or a racing kart engine, all 
>> cars 
>> come
>> with electric start, disk brakes, reverse gear, working lights and a 
>> choice
>> of manual or automatic transmission. [more 
>> info
>> ]
>>
>> [image: Cars for Kids]
>> Half Scale Porsche 356
>>
>> [image: Tiny Car]
>>
>> [image: Red Porsche 356]
>>
>> [image: Porsche 356 Replica]
>>
>> [image: Half Scale Porsche 356]
>> Half Scale Mercedes Benz 300SL
>>
>> [image: Half Scale Mercedes Benz 300SL]
>>
>> [image: Half Scale Mercedes Benz]
>> Half Scale Jaguar E-type
>>
>> [image: Half Scale Jaguar E-type]
>>
>> [image: Half Scale Jaguar]
>> Half Scale Bugatti T35
>>
>> [image: Half Scale Bugatti T35]
>>
>> [image: Bugatti]
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
>>> hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Right Wing-nuts see "Machete" as harbinger of race war

[Mr. Worf]

First off this should come with a SPOILER ALERT. Secondly, Alex Jones is a
right winged wack job.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> Box Office Mojo says 60% of Machete's audience was Hispanic.  I don't
> believe I have ever heard of that particular demographic breakdown before.
>  I also wonder how they came to that determination.
>
> ~rave?
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.infowars.com/machete-producers-lied-about-racial-violence/
> >
> > `Machete' producers lied about racist bloodbath
> >
> > Machete `race war' confirmed as tax rebates still in question for
> anti-Texas, pro-immigration film
> > Aaron Dykes & Alex Jones
> > Prison Planet.com
> > Sunday, September 5, 2010
> > `Machete' reached the #3 spot at the box office opening weekend. But
> after viewing the film, it is clear that its producers lied about the extent
> of the film's racial message, which includes vulgar atrocities, including
> the killing of a pregnant woman attempting to cross the border during one of
> the opening scenes. This deception about the film's message could bring its
> tax incentives, worth millions in production costs, into question.
> > When Alex Jones expressed concern in May that a leaked script portrayed
> white characters as vehemently racist and wantonly murderous, or that a
> Latino mob is roused to take on border vigilantes in racial conflict,
> director Rodriguez assured Ain't It Cool News, that he'd `had too much
> tequila,' and that those types of scenes wouldn't make it to the final
> edited version. Producer Elizabeth Avellan went on the attack just before
> the release, defending the tax incentives `Machete' had practically already
> been assured. Avellan denounced the `uproar over the film' as "unfounded and
> unnecessary," stating there was `no reason for a denial of incentives':
> > "A lot of people made up a lot of stuff in terms of what the movie is
> about and who the bad guy is," she said. "There were a lot of things that
> people misconstrued … without even knowing the script and pretending they
> have a script."
> > Now there is no doubt. Everything Jones quoted from the script was on
> screen in one form or another– and its tone was clear: opposition to illegal
> immigration is tantamount to murder, white racism and vile Machiavellian
> scheming. One scene that was excised from the script repeated the one-sided
> demonization of the Freedom Force vigilantes, who were to murder a young
> child on the border at the end. However, that ending was left behind for a
> different sequence altogether.
> > Reviewers like `Big Hollywood' panned the film as `Dull, Convoluted,
> Racist and Anti-American,' criticizing that: "'Machete' offers no middle
> ground, no reasonable, non-racist position against wide open borders for
> those fleeing from what one character describes as the "personal hell" that
> is Mexico."
> > Who the illegals fight against on screen is one thing. What their words
> mean is altogether something else. That's the shell game Rodriguez plays and
> his racially divisive messaging goes way beyond the normal cinematic
> political posturing and button-pushing. And you will never see a more
> stereotypically racist portrayal of Southerners, who, in an obvious
> reference to the border Minute Men, are not only played for cheap laughs but
> portrayed as sub-human animals who hunt and murder illegals – kill a
> helpless pregnant woman and say "Welcome to America."
> > Rodriguez & crew played everyone as fools, knowing full well what the
> film would contain. Does Texas want to subsidize the films of Robert
> Rodriguez and continue to give him a platform to spew divisive
> racially-tinted trash oriented at Hispanics and attempting to radicalize
> their views? Rodriguez is the face of the Texas Film Commission's tax
> incentives program, and has been virtually guaranteed up to $60 million in
> rebate funding for a package of films.
> >
> > Blood-soaked and dripping with hate
> > It wasn't the extreme levels of violence or its nudity that made this
> film so offensive; it was the one-sided approval of Hispanic revenge
> killings while uniformly demonizing the actions of the white groups
> involved. Though the head Mexican drug lord was the ultimate enemy, he was
> served exclusively by white politicians and radical groups; everyone in `The
> Network' worked against him.
> > What's more, the film was marketed towards Hispanic groups, including
> widespread promotion throughout Latin America, featuring a poster with an
> image of a blood-dripping machete (the symbol of peasant uprising). Now
> Hollywood's exports aren't just American cultural hegemony, but a
> weaponized-subsection of radicalized Latino culture that draws in crowds by
> playing to Hispanic supremacy.
> > `Machete' star Danny Trejo embraced his image as the `the first Latino
> superstar' in an interview with HipHopNation.com, stating "It's an honor to
> be considered the first La

[scifinoir2] Re: Right Wing-nuts see "Machete" as harbinger of race war

[Kelwyn]

Box Office Mojo says 60% of Machete's audience was Hispanic.  I don't believe I 
have ever heard of that particular demographic breakdown before.  I also wonder 
how they came to that determination.

~rave?

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
>
> http://www.infowars.com/machete-producers-lied-about-racial-violence/
> 
> `Machete' producers lied about racist bloodbath
>   
> Machete `race war' confirmed as tax rebates still in question for anti-Texas, 
> pro-immigration film
> Aaron Dykes & Alex Jones
> Prison Planet.com
> Sunday, September 5, 2010
> `Machete' reached the #3 spot at the box office opening weekend. But after 
> viewing the film, it is clear that its producers lied about the extent of the 
> film's racial message, which includes vulgar atrocities, including the 
> killing of a pregnant woman attempting to cross the border during one of the 
> opening scenes. This deception about the film's message could bring its tax 
> incentives, worth millions in production costs, into question.
> When Alex Jones expressed concern in May that a leaked script portrayed white 
> characters as vehemently racist and wantonly murderous, or that a Latino mob 
> is roused to take on border vigilantes in racial conflict, director Rodriguez 
> assured Ain't It Cool News, that he'd `had too much tequila,' and that those 
> types of scenes wouldn't make it to the final edited version. Producer 
> Elizabeth Avellan went on the attack just before the release, defending the 
> tax incentives `Machete' had practically already been assured. Avellan 
> denounced the `uproar over the film' as "unfounded and unnecessary," stating 
> there was `no reason for a denial of incentives':
> "A lot of people made up a lot of stuff in terms of what the movie is about 
> and who the bad guy is," she said. "There were a lot of things that people 
> misconstrued … without even knowing the script and pretending they have a 
> script."
> Now there is no doubt. Everything Jones quoted from the script was on screen 
> in one form or another– and its tone was clear: opposition to illegal 
> immigration is tantamount to murder, white racism and vile Machiavellian 
> scheming. One scene that was excised from the script repeated the one-sided 
> demonization of the Freedom Force vigilantes, who were to murder a young 
> child on the border at the end. However, that ending was left behind for a 
> different sequence altogether.
> Reviewers like `Big Hollywood' panned the film as `Dull, Convoluted, Racist 
> and Anti-American,' criticizing that: "'Machete' offers no middle ground, no 
> reasonable, non-racist position against wide open borders for those fleeing 
> from what one character describes as the "personal hell" that is Mexico."
> Who the illegals fight against on screen is one thing. What their words mean 
> is altogether something else. That's the shell game Rodriguez plays and his 
> racially divisive messaging goes way beyond the normal cinematic political 
> posturing and button-pushing. And you will never see a more stereotypically 
> racist portrayal of Southerners, who, in an obvious reference to the border 
> Minute Men, are not only played for cheap laughs but portrayed as sub-human 
> animals who hunt and murder illegals – kill a helpless pregnant woman and say 
> "Welcome to America."
> Rodriguez & crew played everyone as fools, knowing full well what the film 
> would contain. Does Texas want to subsidize the films of Robert Rodriguez and 
> continue to give him a platform to spew divisive racially-tinted trash 
> oriented at Hispanics and attempting to radicalize their views? Rodriguez is 
> the face of the Texas Film Commission's tax incentives program, and has been 
> virtually guaranteed up to $60 million in rebate funding for a package of 
> films.
> 
> Blood-soaked and dripping with hate
> It wasn't the extreme levels of violence or its nudity that made this film so 
> offensive; it was the one-sided approval of Hispanic revenge killings while 
> uniformly demonizing the actions of the white groups involved. Though the 
> head Mexican drug lord was the ultimate enemy, he was served exclusively by 
> white politicians and radical groups; everyone in `The Network' worked 
> against him.
> What's more, the film was marketed towards Hispanic groups, including 
> widespread promotion throughout Latin America, featuring a poster with an 
> image of a blood-dripping machete (the symbol of peasant uprising). Now 
> Hollywood's exports aren't just American cultural hegemony, but a 
> weaponized-subsection of radicalized Latino culture that draws in crowds by 
> playing to Hispanic supremacy.
> `Machete' star Danny Trejo embraced his image as the `the first Latino 
> superstar' in an interview with HipHopNation.com, stating "It's an honor to 
> be considered the first Latino superstar. Or I should say the first Latino 
> action hero!" He continued:
> "I think Hollywood 

[scifinoir2] Right Wing-nuts see "Machete" as harbinger of race war

[Kelwyn]

http://www.infowars.com/machete-producers-lied-about-racial-violence/

`Machete' producers lied about racist bloodbath

Machete `race war' confirmed as tax rebates still in question for anti-Texas, 
pro-immigration film
Aaron Dykes & Alex Jones
Prison Planet.com
Sunday, September 5, 2010
`Machete' reached the #3 spot at the box office opening weekend. But after 
viewing the film, it is clear that its producers lied about the extent of the 
film's racial message, which includes vulgar atrocities, including the killing 
of a pregnant woman attempting to cross the border during one of the opening 
scenes. This deception about the film's message could bring its tax incentives, 
worth millions in production costs, into question.
When Alex Jones expressed concern in May that a leaked script portrayed white 
characters as vehemently racist and wantonly murderous, or that a Latino mob is 
roused to take on border vigilantes in racial conflict, director Rodriguez 
assured Ain't It Cool News, that he'd `had too much tequila,' and that those 
types of scenes wouldn't make it to the final edited version. Producer 
Elizabeth Avellan went on the attack just before the release, defending the tax 
incentives `Machete' had practically already been assured. Avellan denounced 
the `uproar over the film' as "unfounded and unnecessary," stating there was 
`no reason for a denial of incentives':
"A lot of people made up a lot of stuff in terms of what the movie is about and 
who the bad guy is," she said. "There were a lot of things that people 
misconstrued … without even knowing the script and pretending they have a 
script."
Now there is no doubt. Everything Jones quoted from the script was on screen in 
one form or another– and its tone was clear: opposition to illegal immigration 
is tantamount to murder, white racism and vile Machiavellian scheming. One 
scene that was excised from the script repeated the one-sided demonization of 
the Freedom Force vigilantes, who were to murder a young child on the border at 
the end. However, that ending was left behind for a different sequence 
altogether.
Reviewers like `Big Hollywood' panned the film as `Dull, Convoluted, Racist and 
Anti-American,' criticizing that: "'Machete' offers no middle ground, no 
reasonable, non-racist position against wide open borders for those fleeing 
from what one character describes as the "personal hell" that is Mexico."
Who the illegals fight against on screen is one thing. What their words mean is 
altogether something else. That's the shell game Rodriguez plays and his 
racially divisive messaging goes way beyond the normal cinematic political 
posturing and button-pushing. And you will never see a more stereotypically 
racist portrayal of Southerners, who, in an obvious reference to the border 
Minute Men, are not only played for cheap laughs but portrayed as sub-human 
animals who hunt and murder illegals – kill a helpless pregnant woman and say 
"Welcome to America."
Rodriguez & crew played everyone as fools, knowing full well what the film 
would contain. Does Texas want to subsidize the films of Robert Rodriguez and 
continue to give him a platform to spew divisive racially-tinted trash oriented 
at Hispanics and attempting to radicalize their views? Rodriguez is the face of 
the Texas Film Commission's tax incentives program, and has been virtually 
guaranteed up to $60 million in rebate funding for a package of films.

Blood-soaked and dripping with hate
It wasn't the extreme levels of violence or its nudity that made this film so 
offensive; it was the one-sided approval of Hispanic revenge killings while 
uniformly demonizing the actions of the white groups involved. Though the head 
Mexican drug lord was the ultimate enemy, he was served exclusively by white 
politicians and radical groups; everyone in `The Network' worked against him.
What's more, the film was marketed towards Hispanic groups, including 
widespread promotion throughout Latin America, featuring a poster with an image 
of a blood-dripping machete (the symbol of peasant uprising). Now Hollywood's 
exports aren't just American cultural hegemony, but a weaponized-subsection of 
radicalized Latino culture that draws in crowds by playing to Hispanic 
supremacy.
`Machete' star Danny Trejo embraced his image as the `the first Latino 
superstar' in an interview with HipHopNation.com, stating "It's an honor to be 
considered the first Latino superstar. Or I should say the first Latino action 
hero!" He continued:
"I think Hollywood is afraid to realize that the Latino audience is the largest 
that they've got. As long as they think that a Latino can't carry a movie, its 
going to stay that way. Robert Rodriguez who is innovative and brilliant, he 
knows what we've got. The other great thing is that he put some strong Latina 
ladies in the movie like Michelle Rodriguez and Jessica Alba. Lindsay Lohan 
also stars in the movie and she 

Re: [scifinoir2] Half Scale Luxury Cars for Kids

[Martin Baxter]

I believe that it varies. Here in Georgia, I believe that you do have to
insure those.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> I wonder if they have to pay car insurance?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> A... lost childhood. [?][?]
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's why you get the one that has the dashboard that raises up. They
>>> also make a mini Ferrari 308GTS like Magnum PI, but for the price ($25000)
>>> you can buy a real one.
>>>
>>> Check out the half scale Nascar race track:
>>> http://www.arenaracinggr.com/about/
>>>
>>> Or this!
>>> http://www.racingjunk.com/category/22/Junior_Dragster/post/1927131/-2006-HALFSCALE-quot-BEST-OF-EVERYTHING-quot.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:31 AM, Martin Baxter 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 Okay... we all know that the grown-ups who buy them "for the kids" are
 going to end up stuck in them themselves, right?


 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:

>
>
> Half Scale Luxury Cars for 
> Kids
> September 5th, 2010 | Tech  |
>
> [image: Half Scale Luxury Cars for Kids]
>
> Harrington Group  sells half size
> replicas of classic luxury 
> cars that
> can be driven by children over the age of 6 and small adults.
>
> Powered by 50cc gas or a racing kart engine, all 
> cars 
> come
> with electric start, disk brakes, reverse gear, working lights and a 
> choice
> of manual or automatic transmission. [more 
> info
> ]
>
> [image: Cars for Kids]
> Half Scale Porsche 356
>
> [image: Tiny Car]
>
> [image: Red Porsche 356]
>
> [image: Porsche 356 Replica]
>
> [image: Half Scale Porsche 356]
> Half Scale Mercedes Benz 300SL
>
> [image: Half Scale Mercedes Benz 300SL]
>
> [image: Half Scale Mercedes Benz]
> Half Scale Jaguar E-type
>
> [image: Half Scale Jaguar E-type]
>
> [image: Half Scale Jaguar]
> Half Scale Bugatti T35
>
> [image: Half Scale Bugatti T35]
>
> [image: Bugatti]
>
>


 --
 "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody
 hell wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
>> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
<<330.gif>><<347.gif>>

Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium nuclear reactor

[Martin Baxter]

I'll check the video in a bit, and thanks for finding it for me.

And your last sentence again makes me wish I still wrote harder SF.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> There are several other videos of it on youtube:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIg6pWwezEU&NR=1
>
> I was thinking that
> because you can control it with a magnetic field could you also increase
> output by using multiple detuned engines that combine at the output?
>
> They said in the video that it could reach speeds up to 140,000mph. Which
> could make a trip to the moon and back something you could do on your lunch
> break.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> So much for that. Vid's not up right now. I've bookmarked it, and will
>> come back to it.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Martin Baxter 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks much, Mr Worf! About to pause the work to watch it now...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>>>


 They have shown it on a couple of shows. It was developed by a former
 astronaut. Here's a video:
 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5a7_1255323536


 
 On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Martin Baxter 
 wrote:

>
>
> No, not yet. I'll keep an eye out for it.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Mr. Worf wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Did you see the show where they debuted the plasma powered engine?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Keith Johnson <
>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ha-ha! I was watching one of the great science shows on cable
>>> recently. I think it was "The Universe" on The History Channel. They 
>>> had an
>>> ep on deep space probes and discussed ion powered ships. The program
>>> indicated they're getting better all the time, and that in the next ten 
>>> -
>>> twenty years, we may be able to see a severalfold increase in the speed 
>>> of
>>> probes using ion power.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Martin Baxter" 
>>> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 6:15:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium
>>> nuclear reactor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aside from the battery, I'm not seeing anything wrong with that
>>> idea...
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Keith Johnson <
>>> keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>


 Somewhere in my old house in Fort Worth is a schematic of an ion
 drive I did in second grade, after watching an ep of "Star Trek" (had 
 to be
 "Spock's Brain"), and reading about electrolytes in my encyclopedia 
 set. I'd
 read about how cesium, when immersed in water, would produce ions in
 solution, and I'd read about theories for Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD), 
 the
 idea of using fusion power to drive plasma as a source of motion. Then 
 there
 was that Trek ep where they said the aliens who took Spock's brain 
 used ion
 power, which Kirk said was even beyond Federation tech. So, sure that 
 I'd
 stumbled on a major secret, I took pen to paper. I drew a cutaway of 
 the
 Jupiter Two from Lost in Space. Inside was  a giant water tank. 
 Sitting next
 to the tank, like a coal scuttle on a stem locomotive, was a big pile 
 of
 cesium bricks--just sitting there.  Next to them were some crazy robot 
 arms
 with gloved "hands" (think of all the robot extremities as depicted in 
 old
 cartoons).  The robot hands--two of them--would take turns dumping 
 cesium
 bricks into the water tank. Attached to the tank was a big A battery 
 and
 wiring so that the ions in solution could be driven to one side of the 
 tank
 by the negative pole of the battery. I then had what was for all the 
 world a
 tailpipe sticking out the side of the ship, through which the electrons
 would shoot into space.
 Of course, my eight year old self was certain I'd just solved the
 problem of both ion drive and FTL travel. To this day I remember how 
 excited
 I was at what I thought I'd created!


 - Original Message -
 From: "Mr. Worf" 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 4:02:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Subcritical accelerator driven thorium
 nuclear reactor



 The truly futuristic stuff is starting to appear. Once people
 completely move away from the big government thinking on 

Re: [scifinoir2] Try this at home...

[Martin Baxter]

No. Heard of it, but never found the time to get there.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> Did you ever try that UK search engine that talked back to you? It had a
> bunch of quips like that.
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> LMNAATWO!!!
>>
>> Last year, Mr Worf, I recall Google doing this as well, but doing what you
>> said would then take you to a page that said something to the effect of
>> "No... you really aren't feeling that lucky."
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Mr. Worf  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Go to Google and type in Where is Chuck Norris, then press I'm Feeling
>>> Lucky.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
>> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>>
>>
>>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik

Re: [scifinoir2] BorderClash - Days of Future Past (raw clip)

[Martin Baxter]

Tell me more, Said! [?][?]

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Said Kakese Dibinga
wrote:

>
>
> Just sharing a raw clip of a project I'm working on...enjoy...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci45jWAcbrg
>
> Said Yenga Kakese Dibinga
> Director General, Bayindo Group SA
> POB 1782
> Los Angeles, CA 90078-1782
> em: s...@bayindogroup.com
> skype: saiddibinga
>
>
>
>
>  
>



-- 
"If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell
wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
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Re: [scifinoir2] (Airplane) Electric Green Cri takes to the skies

[Martin Baxter]

I'm surprised that the military doesn't have this. Or maybe they already do,
and we just haven't "heard" about it. (pun sort of intended)

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
>  Electric Green Cri takes to the skies
>
> By Paul Ridden 
>
> *08:55 September 3, 2010*
>
> 3 
> Pictures
>  [image: Hardly a sound from the counter-rotating propellers as the Green
> Cri takes to the 
> air]
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Amiga All-in-One is next in line for Commodore USA release

[Martin Baxter]

Which answers my concerns at the time neatly.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
>  Amiga All-in-One is next in line for Commodore USA release
>
> By Paul Ridden 
>
> *13:49 September 5, 2010*
>
> 3 
> Pictures
>  [image: Commodore USA has revealed its plans to release an Amiga-branded
> all-in-one keyboard 
> compu...]
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] UM develops lasers to defend helicopters against missile attacks

[Martin Baxter]

I was about to blast this article for the ludicrous notion that lasers could
knock anything at distance out of the sky (the power and focusing issues
alone will preclude that for years to come), but the jamming factor does
seem plausible.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
>  UM develops lasers to defend helicopters against missile attacks
>
> By Ben Coxworth 
>
> *11:36 September 4, 2010*
>
>  [image: New laser technology could be used to protect military
> helicopters from heat-seeking 
> missi...]
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Soladey Ionic toothbrush heads for new markets

[Martin Baxter]

Interesting, but I'm leery of it. I've always seen some advances in
technology more as "aids to laziness", allowing people to get away with
doing less work. Not a good thing, IMO.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
>  Soladey Ionic toothbrush heads for new markets
>
> By Ben Coxworth 
>
> *11:14 September 4, 2010*
>
> 2 
> Pictures
>  [image: The Solidey ionic toothbrush is claimed to be able to clean teeth
> using only light and 
> wat...]
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Toshiba unveils Folio 100 media tablet at IFA

[Martin Baxter]

Mr Worf, right now, someone who dropped their ducats on an iPad is seeing
this and twisting their knee trying to kick themselves.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
>  Toshiba unveils Folio 100 media tablet at IFA
>
> By Paul Ridden 
>
> *07:42 September 3, 2010*
>
> 15 
> Pictures
>  [image: Toshiba's Folio 100 media tablet at IFA 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Conventions: Another day at the office for celebs

[Martin Baxter]

Brent, that was a really interesting post. More things to fandom that I
never thought about. Except, unfortunately, for the stalker angle. I know
the fear she felt all too well, having a few cyber-stalkers now and a
real-life one in my past.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 10:00 PM, brent wodehouse <
brent_wodeho...@thefence.us> wrote:

>
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/09/06/dragoncon.celebrities/
>
> Conventions: Another day at the office for celebs
>
> by Suzanne Kelly, CNN
>
> September 6, 2010
>
> Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) -- Much of the world got to know her as Col. Wilma
> Deering on the "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" television series. Though
> she later played Kate on "Silver Spoons," there was something about that
> Spandex that was hard to forget.
>
> But today, actress Erin Gray has found a way to combine her celebrity with
> the very real business of fan-based conventions. At events like [
> http://dragoncon.org/ ]Dragon*Con in Atlanta, the woman known for playing
> strong female characters now uses her brains to wrangle issues for her
> celebrity clients as they prepare for close encounters with fans.
>
> Gray runs a company called [ http://www.heroesforhire.info/default.htm
> ]Heroes for Hire, which represents about 35 celebrity clients at
> conventions around the world. CNN caught up with her at Dragon*Con in
> Atlanta (unofficially referred to as "PartyCon"). Dragon*Con is known for
> being the most "fan-friendly" convention, which, in itself, can pose both
> unique opportunities and unique challenges.
>
> Heading into the weekend, there were 35,000 people expected to attend,
> primarily to see some of the 400 celebrity guests who sign autographs and
> mingle with the crowds. Gray knew this meant that there were a lot of
> things to plan for.
>
> "We create 30-page spreadsheets so that we can keep track of where we are
> in the process," Gray said. "Are the contracts signed? Have the photos and
> bios been sent? Are the travel details done?"
>
> Today, the former space colonel walks a fine line between getting her
> clients closer to their fans at conventions and keeping them away. "We've
> had death threats before," she said.
>
> "I've had my own personal stalker. I would get nude drawings of my body
> with a knife and a message saying 'I'm watching you' and 'I'm going to get
> you.' When you have a baby, you just feel so vulnerable. We couldn't
> figure it out because it was happening at the studio," Gray said.
> Incidentally, it turned out to be a security guard.
>
> "The other one, I would get these 10-page tiny handwritten letters front
> and back and perfect penmanship, and he would say things like 'don't tell
> your husband about our relationship.' And you know how I found out who it
> was? He said, 'when you waved at me.' I waved to my postman. This is
> before we had stalking laws. And when something like that happens, you
> think, 'is being an actress worth it?' "
>
> Luckily, Gray doesn't have those terrifying experiences anymore, but now
> she has clients who do.
>
> "I have a couple of clients who give me the names of their stalkers, and I
> have to let the promoter know who they are and to keep an eye out for
> them. I have one who is obsessed with a female celebrity, and this guy
> e-mails me, texts me, and he'll come to a show and stand about 20 feet
> away and stare at her. We'll hire security, and they will be with security
> all day long," Gray said. "Every actor has their stalker."
>
> But the reality is that conventions like Dragon*Con can help make or break
> an actor's career. We are no longer living in the age of Hollywood
> executives determining who the stars will be, Gray said. We are living in
> an age of social media, where the fans have a louder voice than ever
> before.
>
> For example, Gray has one client whom Hollywood paid no attention to. So
> she went out on her own and started a webcast, and today has more than 1.7
> million followers on Twitter. Ouch! That's gotta hurt all of those people
> who told Felicia Day, "don't call us; we'll call you."
>
> "I think there's been a major shift in grass roots media because of the
> internet and because the geeks and nerds rule the world. They are in
> control in so many ways. The comic is today's Western, so many movies, and
> I think that if actors want to optimize their longevity, it's important
> for them to meet the fans because those fans are so loyal and will show up
> at any movie or tune in to any television show they're on," Gray said.
>
> The shift in Gray's own career from onscreen heartthrob to celebrity
> manager was completely unscripted.
>
> "As an actress reaching her mid- to late 40s and the number of roles not
> being there and still having kids in private schools, there came a point
> when I hit bottom, and I was desperate to get a job and understand that
> being a model and actress my entire life since the age of 15, I didn't
> have the qualifications to get a normal job, nor did I want to. I coul

Re: [scifinoir2] And now... Galaxy Mess

[Martin Baxter]

Let more flow! Great reading. [?]

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:56 PM, jmp.space  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> See below.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Martin Baxter
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:03 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] And now... Galaxy Mess
>
>
>
>
>
> Jeff, let more pour forth!
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM,  wrote:
>
>
>
> Sometimes stuff just comes pouring out - jeff.
> 
>
>
> My sensory matrix seems to be offline. I was aware of myself, but nothing
> more. I know who I am but I do not know *where* I am or what my goal set
> is. Of course, that assumes that I was goal seeking. Wait. I need to restart
> my cybernetics. My shield is active, I’m alive but longer on course. My eyes
> are open but no light is reaching my imaging cortex. Or perhaps it’s simply
> dark.
>
> Switching to infra-red was unrevealing. Emitting vlf sonics. There, solids
> are within a meter in all directions, however, I seem to be reclined on a
> flat featureless surface. Puzzling, these surfaces are not reflective across
> the IR spectrum… an unknown material?. Cyber-reset completed. Capture all
> sensor matrices… emit subspace status report. No response. This container
> must include EM damping material or fields. I’m detecting a suitable
> atmosphere beyond this enclosure.
>
> I can sit upright but standing is not possible. I need an aperture.
> Emitting uhf sonics. Ah, there is a seal directly above me running at least
> my length. Perhaps a photonic stream would force an opening. Wait, perhaps
> my confinement is temporary. Shield off. I reached upward and pushed the
> aperture open. Light came flooding in; imager adapted. Better stand now.
> There are life forms all about. Moving, speaking. Language processors
> engaged. They are reacting to my presence. I am *the unknown*.
>
> Standing now, optic & audio reset confirmed. “Hello – can anyone hear me”.
> Silence. Just then, a craft took station directly above me. A voice advised
> me to be unafraid. I’m being lifted into that craft now, but without
> attachments.
>
> *
> Who are you? *
>
>
>
> My name is Marteel I answered. I am an explorer on a mission of discovery.
> My sensory matrix appears to be restored so I can interact with you. Who are
> you and where are we?
>
>
>
> *We are the Drolmecs and you are now on the planet Zindrol. *
>
>
>
> I asked them, Do you know of the Milky Way?
>
>
>
> Someone replied, *Which way would be milky? *
>
>
>
> It is my home galaxy. Wait, I can show you. I emitted a panoramic view of
> the Milky Way onto a wall and indicated the general position of my solar
> system. I am from here. My hosts perused the image and suddenly one of them
> was amazed to find what he believed was Zindrol, the clue was a tri-nary
> star system. It would appear that I have traveled to a point about half way
> to the center of the galaxy. I am puzzled, Autonav seems to have been on
> course. But, this stop was not in my instructions to Autonav. I explained to
> my hosts that something has gone awry with my navigation plan. One of my
> hosts explained that I was intercepted when I appeared on one of their
> tracking systems. Ahhh, so that’s why I was in a container.
>
>
>
> *It was used for our and your protection, said one of my hosts*.
>
>
>
> Just then a compliment of armed guards joined us. They treated me as a
> prisoner. I explained that I was Marteel, a simple explorer on a scouting
> mission. To no avail. I was escorted from this complex and into another
> craft. In a few moments I was taken into a security center and restrained.
>
> *Where is your craft?*
>
>
>
> Craft? I queried. Ah,  my kind no longer use crafts, we use personal
> nano-shields, or a bubble of sorts. It protects us by creating an
> impenetrable environment to contain and protect us as we travel.
>
>
>
> *Well, how do you propel yourself through open space without thrusters? *
>
>
>
> We use magnetic fields generated by stars, planets and artifacts along our
> path. Autonav alternatively attracts me toward or repels me from space borne
> objects and fields; and thereby executes my course.
>
>
>
> *What is an autonav?*
>
>
>
> It is what I call my *auto*nomous goal seeking *nav*igation subsystem. I
> enter my destination to Autonav which uses these EM forces to manage my
> course. I use the travel time to conduct myriad experiments and analysis;
> otherwise I hibernate. But, I think Autonav needs a restart now. Am I a
> prisoner here? I’m a simple explorer and mean you no harm.
>
>
>
> *We are still very confused Marteel. Without a vessel, where are your
> computers, life support subsystems, communications equipment and the like?
> *
>
>
>
> As I indicated, my vessel is my nano-shield. Specific regions of nanites
> around my shield are configured to perform many tasks, including
> communications, EM and subspace emitters and detectors, a

Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says

[Mr. Worf]

That depends on the pieces of DNA that you are looking at. For example,
almost every animal, insect, and reptile on the planet have similar DNA. The
last 2 percent or so make the difference between an elephant and your
neighbor. An even smaller part determines your racial makeup and contains
your genetic history.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Robert Baker  wrote:

>
>
> Question, if I may.  If Africa is the birthplace of mankind don't we all
> have the same roots?  One love. . .
>
>
>
>
> --
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:44:11 +
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had
> Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says
>
>
>  Could be a million reasons. Don't know them, so can't say. Some do it
> because they honestly feel such areas have better quality of life (schools,
> homes, parks, etc). Some do it because they feel deep down that white is
> better--even if they can't admit it to themselves. I have some black friends
> like that, who live in majority white, very conservative areas. Always
> complaining about racism and stuff, but never seem to be able to find the
> will to move. Makes me impatient...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 1:38:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had
> Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says
>
>
>
> They live in the mostly white section of Marin county. The area is now much
> more integrated but back then it was about 99% white. They were doing pretty
> well though. (business owners, private school for the girls etc.) Thinking
> back, the lies that they told probably kept them alive in that area. I'm not
> sure why they moved there though.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Really? Where are they located?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mr. Worf" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:29:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF??? Hitler DNA Tests Show He Likely Had
> Jewish, African Roots, Daily Mail Says
>
>
>  I think that there is a lot of demons in the closet on this topic that
> should be exercised.
>
> @Keith, I have family members that are passing for Portuguese. I only saw
> them twice when I was a kid. I wonder have any of them came out of the
> racial closet or not.
>
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Not at all a surprise. First, the Jewish thing was always noised about. I
> often joke to my wife, why didn't someone, during any of his mass rallies,
> look at him and say "Hey, waitaminute? Didn't he say 'blonde hair and blue
> eyes? WTF??" Secondly, given the centuries of exploration, migration, and
> conquest, a lot more Europeans have African and Asian blood in them than
> would like to admit.
> They need to do the same DNA tests on J. Edgar Hoover (rumoured to have
> black ancestry) and Babe Ruth (often called disparaging names for a black
> man by some of his white opponents). I've always been fascinated by people
> who've denied, hidden, or simply didn't know about their heritage. For
> example, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright didn't discover until
> the last few years that she was Jewish. Her family evidently tried to hide
> that fact, no doubt to avoid a lot of problems in American society. I found
> her surprise surprising, as I'd always assumed she was, based on her looks.
>
> I've long been happy that i'm obviously black, and didn't grow up in a
> time, place, or family where trying to pretend to be something else was
> either an option, a desire, or even a necessity. There's a scene in one of
> the Easy Rollins books--it might be "Devil in A Blue Dress--where Easy is
> staking out a hotel lobby. As he's sitting there, he notices a man sitting
> in a chair, well dressed, manicured nails, light olive skin. Idly curious,
> Easy stares at the man for a sec. They make eye contact, and the man
> literally starts looking agitated. Easy quickly realizes that the man in is
> fact at least part Black, and is obviously passing for something
> else--Italian or Greek, most likely. Easy looks away, silently assuring the
> "brother" that he's not going to blow his cover, cause right or wrong, the
> man feels he has to hide like that. Easy wasn't going to judge him or cause
> him pain.
>
> I've often had to fight a kind of knee jerk disgust at people of color
> who've passed for white, or who deny their African roots while embracing the
> European ones. I had a lot of trouble, honestly, with the Torres character
> on "Voyager", for example, because she was ashamed of her Klingon heritage.
> But I've had to realize that some people have been raised in times and
> places where it's simply been too hard to be who they were. Maybe they were
> taking the easy route; maybe they were just trying to survive. I guess I

Re: [scifinoir2] Whatever happened to BET's Black Panther TV series?

[Mr. Worf]

Wow. This is starting to look like "one more thing" to add to the list of
what the heck happened to???

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:45 PM, G  wrote:

>
>
> Whatever ever happened to the Black Panther TV series.
>
> Remember back in 2008 when Reginald Hudlin became President over at BET and
> announced many new scripted shows for the network. One that many looked
> forward to was the "Black Panther" based on the black comic book hero from
> Marvel Comics. Whatever happened to that show? Believe ir or not it did
> air. Just not in the US.
>
> Read more and watch the shows opening sequence
> http://aareports.com/2010/08/whatever-happened-to-bets-black-panther.html
>
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