[scifinoir2] Re: Where is syndicated Scifi?
Speaking of which, I am making my way through American Gothic right now. I loved that show when it was on. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The short answer: DVD. All the good shows are on DVD now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] The New SF
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,2112467,00.html The new sci-fi Until recently, science fiction and fantasy were things you only went to see at the cinema - unless you were a teenage boy. Now, with the success of Battlestar Galactica, Lost and Heroes, the major networks can't get enough of the stuff. Gareth McLean asks: how did sci-fi become so popular, so credible - and even so political? Wednesday June 27, 2007 The Guardian It's not every day that you hear a justification for suicide bombing on an American TV drama - and certainly not one as vigorous and heartfelt as this: I've sent men on suicide missions in two wars now, and let me tell you something - it don't make a goddamn difference whether they're riding in a Viper or walking out on to a parade ground. In the end, they're just as dead. So take your piety and your moralising and your high-minded principles and stick them some place safe ... I've got a war to fight. The fact that the character talking is not some swivel-eyed terrorist but, in fact, a hero - or, at least, what passes for a hero in this TV show's murky, shades-of-grey universe - makes his speech more surprising still. In a further do-not-adjust-your-set moment, the show in question is Battlestar Galactica. Yes, that Battlestar Galactica. Well, nearly. The reimagined BSG, as it is now known, is light-years away from its cheesy late-1970s incarnation starring Dirk Benedict, later of The A-Team, and Bonanza's Lorne Greene. The premise is the same - the last vestiges of humanity are being pursued by the sentient monotheistic robots that they created as labour-saving devices - but instead of cheese, there's grime, the harsh realities of living hand-to-mouth in space, and some of the sharpest, smartest writing on television. Gone is the comforting binary of humanity good, robots bad, and in its place is a universe in which the good guys practise torture and recruit suicide bombers, while the bad guys are devoutly religious, embarking upon a genocidal war in the belief that they are cleansing the universe of corruption. This is science fiction for the 21st century. What's more, it's sci- fi about the 21st century. Fans of the genre have long known that quality sci-fi and its sister genre fantasy hold up a mirror to the times in which they were created, but never before have the TV shows involved seemed so resonant or indeed so influential. Science fiction has never been more now, fantasy never more real. Now, even those shows that aren't strictly sci-fi or fantasy are heavily indebted to it. Other than Doctor Who, which is about a time- traveller in a police box, the most talked-about British drama of recent years has been Life on Mars, about a time-travelling policeman. ITV1 - already home of Primeval, which is about a team of scientists tracking prehistoric creatures through rifts in time - is, apparently, planning a drama called Lost in Austen, in which a woman finds a gateway to the Regency era in her bathroom. Meanwhile, Life on Mars producer Kudos is developing Outcasts, for the BBC. It follows a band of ne'er-do-wells in the future searching for an alternative home to Earth as the planet's prospects look increasingly precarious. It has been described as being about life's big imperatives - cheating death, seeking suitable mates and surviving as a species. Such is the commissioners' keenness these days on high- concept dramas - which is to say, dramas that borrow devices or themes from sci-fi and fantasy - that writers now complain that it is difficult to get them interested in anything else. Among new dramas debuting later this year in America are a remake of The Bionic Woman; Journeyman, which has a man travelling in time to right wrongs; Pushing Daisies, about a detective who can bring people back to life; Babylon Fields, which is about zombies rising in contemporary America; Moonlight, about a detective who is also a vampire; True Blood, another vampire drama from Six Feet Under creator Alan Ball; and The Sarah Connor Chronicles, based on the Terminator movies. Of 45 pilots picked up for series by US networks for next season, around a quarter are straightforward science fiction or fantasy, or influenced by them. The fantastic future is here. (Before we go any further, as the weary time-traveller might say, sci- fi probably requires definition. It is, basically, fiction that makes imaginative use of scientific knowledge or conjecture. It extrapolates about possible futures, based on the present. It's speculative fiction. Fantasy, as its name suggests, pertains more to the fantastic, the supernatural, the unexplained. So The Matrix is sci-fi while Buffy the Vampire Slayer is fantasy. Rod Serling, creator of The Twilight Zone, put it thus: Fantasy is the impossible made probable. Science fiction is the improbable made possible.) This is all something of a reversal of fortune for sci-fi. For a long
[scifinoir2] Re: No More Sci Fiction at Scifi.com
Quite often. In fact, I have a SF workshop member that has a story out there. After I saw this on boingboing, I went and downloaded a few more to read. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Show of hands- who actually went to the site? Even *once* counts... Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/ As of Friday, June 15, 2007, SCI FICTION will no longer be availabe on SCIFI.COM. SCIFI.COM would like to thank all those who contributed and those who read the short stories over the past few years. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: John From Cincinnati
I gave up after the surfing at the start of the show. You mean there was actually something to recommend this show? -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levitating surfers, pet birds brought back from the dead, a prophet who was apparently born full grown this morning and is learning the venacular as he goes along... This is the kindest of the many reviews I read loathing this show. Of course, I LOVED it. Can't wait to see more. ~rave! http://www.variety.com/index.asp? layout=print_reviewreviewid=VE1117933836categoryid=1264 Posted: Wed., Jun. 6, 2007, 1:41pm PT John From Cincinnati (Series -- HBO, Sun. June 10, 10 p.m.) Filmed in Imperial Beach, Calif., by Red Board Prods. and HBO Entertainment. Executive producers, David Milch, Gregg Fienberg, Zvi Howard Rosenman, Mark Tinker; co-executive producers, Kem Nunn, Peter Spears, Scott Stephens; producer, Ted Mann; director, Tinker; writers, Milch, Nunn. Cissy Yost - Rebecca De Mornay Dr. Smith - Garret Dillahunt Shaun Yost - Greyson Fletcher Meyer Dickstein - Willie Garson Mitch Yost - Bruce Greenwood Ramon Gaviota - Luis Guzman Kai - Keala Kennelly John - Austin Nichols Bill Jacks - Ed O'Neill Linc Stark - Luke Perry Butchie Yost - Brian Van Holt Barry Cunningham - Matt Winston By BRIAN LOWRY John From Cincinnati might be the strangest show ever produced for American television -- an HBO drama that makes Twin Peaks look like Mayberry RFD. Yet even worshippers at the altar of writer extraordinaire David Milch are likely to find themselves bewildered and frustrated with the premiere, and two subsequent episodes only marginally improve matters. It's easy to admire the hypnotic poetry in Milch's dialogue, but this existential surfing fantasy -- infused with a touch of Starman -- dips and swerves amid its confounding currents, and hardly appears like the standard-bearer to help lead the pay service into a post-Sopranos future. Indeed, fans of Milch's Deadwood (notably, a few members of that show's cast show up here) might wonder what possessed HBO to inadvertently hasten the foul-mouthed Western's demise to liberate the producer to pursue this perplexing, messy bit of whimsy inspired by surf novelist (and series co-creator) Kem Nunn. Built around three generations of surfers, the show's patriarch is Mitch Yost (Bruce Greenwood), a wave-conquering legend whose son, Butchie (Brian Van Holt), was equally promising before the high life got the best of him and he became a junkie. Mitch and his wife Cissy (Rebecca De Mornay) thus care for their grandson Shaun (Greyson Fletcher), another surfing prodigy who Mitch desperately wants to protect from Butchie's fame-driven fall and the leeches (including a surf promoter played by Luke Perry) that would latch onto him. Into this fractured family drama descends John (Austin Nichols), a messianic figure who mostly seems to parrot what others say to him. Once John arrives, strange things start occurring -- from Butchie feeling no dope sickness to Mitch inexplicably levitating a few inches off the ground. Some things I know, and some things I don't, John repeats with childlike simplicity. Butchie guesses he's from Cincinnati -- hence the title -- whereas the audience is left to ponder whether the fresh-faced lad comes from outer space, Heaven or somewhere else equally exotic. If the show quit there, it would be maddening enough, but Milch tosses in family friend Bill (Ed O'Neill) and a peculiar, suicidal lottery winner (Matt Winston) that won't earn any prizes from GLAAD, along with other quirky characters whose larger contribution remains fuzzy at best. For his part, John seemingly wants Mitch to surf again (get back in the game, as he puts it), but where the narrative flows is anybody's guess, and after three hallucinatory hours, I'm not really sure I care. Part of that is because the characters prove almost uniformly unpleasant beyond the serene John, barking and squabbling in obscenity-laced exchanges that awkwardly wed NYPD Blue's terse cop-talk with Deadwood's frontier barbarism. Mitch and Cissy -- while well-played by Greenwood and De Mornay -- are particularly poor company, even with their understandable anger at Butchie and the world at large. In a sense, John From Cincinnati represents the ultimate leap of creative faith -- with HBO having banked on Milch and Nunn to locate a TV series at the heart of this acid flashback. Perhaps they eventually will, but unless the audience is surprisingly tolerant and forgiving, by the time that ship comes in, most of those who tested the waters will have drifted away. © 2007 Reed Business Information
[scifinoir2] Re: No More Sci Fiction at Scifi.com
Well, the editor was Ellen Datlow before the SF channel decided to drop publishing fiction. I've liked her choices for best fantasy of the year and for Omni. If you didn't like those books/magazine perhaps you might not have liked what she chose for the online magazine. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wnet there the first time I learned of its existence, bac`k in '05. Frankly, I didn't find anything to keep me there. Maybe I didn't look long or hard enough... being_marian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite often. In fact, I have a SF workshop member that has a story out there. After I saw this on boingboing, I went and downloaded a few more to read. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin truthseeker_013@ wrote: Show of hands- who actually went to the site? Even *once* counts... Brent Wodehouse Brent_Wodehouse@ wrote: http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/ As of Friday, June 15, 2007, SCI FICTION will no longer be availabe on SCIFI.COM. SCIFI.COM would like to thank all those who contributed and those who read the short stories over the past few years. There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Lost detectives
Well! Time magazine pointed me to some true LOST fanatics. https://www.blogger.com/comment.g? blogID=29341932postID=1029258657639825222isPopup=true HD-TV is allowing fan-detective work to really explode. And to see all of the philosphosy references that I missed! (Even though the John Locke reference is pretty obvious) It is cool to read all this. Reminds me of my days of arguing over ST episodes.
[scifinoir2] Lost imagative spoilers
I saw 2 episodes of Lost this past week and they are beginning to narrow the options. Not in good way, IMHO, but in a somewhat mundane way. 3 characters have declared that all of passengers of the flight died during the crash. Ho-hum. There are still possibilities of rescuing the ultimate mystery, I think. Even if we accept that premise. And the ramifications are strange. For instance, if the passengers died, what is Ben? The punishing angel? Is Locke some type of Messiah that the inmates wait for? What myth are we reenacting as he kills his father? This reminds me of my initial confusion in American Gods. I was never that big on Norse myths. I recognized Wednesday in that novel right away. But I didn't know who the central character represented. 1. So is this Ben's hell? Ben seems to understand the organizing principle of the island and is very despairing about it. He was born on the island and never speaks of leaving. Is this his hell? 2. Is this the crash victims hell or purgatory? Perhaps Ben is there to force people to the next level of understanding. Some characters grow and leave. I am thinking of the second incarnation of Fantasy Island that I grew to love. It was based more on The Tempest. The Island master (Roarke) has his Ariel and Caliban. 'Caliban' was the guy who cried, The plane, the plane. At the end of the series, he redeemed himself and was reborn--given another chance to live. Are the crash victims redeeming themselves by (a) getting off drugs, (b) reacquainting with their children, (c) forgiving their father, (d) killing their evil father, etc. etc? 3) Is Locke a fallen angel or a messiah figure? What does it mean that Ben insists that he is one of us? Is Locke meant to lead them out of the island? Or perhaps, Ben is looking for someone to take his place? (I am remembering that Gaiman has Lucifer leave Hell. 2 other angels are forced into the position.) My problem with the idea that the characters are dead can be seen above. It's been done before. But mainly in print. I think that there are additional ways to work with even that notion. Please free to chime in!
[scifinoir2] Re: Blood Ties on Lifetime TV
I didn't hear a word about it. And I used to own all of the Huff vampire books. Is Henry still a romance writer? Is he still the illegitimte son on Henry the 8th? (marian) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone check this show out? The main actress was on Earth: Final Conflict, I believe. and I seem to remember some cable movie about her in a lesbian relationship. Tonight's show was okay. Dealt with voodo, but I've seen so many of those I almost laugh at the people faking the Caribbean or New Orleans accents. http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/bloodties/
[scifinoir2] Re: Iranians Angered at Negative Portrayal in 300
My trainer tells me that Marathon preceeded this. The Greeks won that battle and this battle was the Persian response. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Rising Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the man says Just the facts ma'am It is a fact: Persia tried to invade Greece and the Spartans stopped them cold. The rest is up for grabs. I'm subject to correction here but I think this may be where the original Marathon run took place. When the runner brought the news of the battle to Athens. But as I say I am subject to correction - too many Greek battles! RS=D They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin With that in mind. Sign up to register your BAD TRADERS at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jagrslc2 if we don't OUT these bad eggs we will all suffer. - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: An Intro from Marian
1. Name:Marian Moore 2. Location:one of the many suburbs of New Orleans 3. Nickname/ Alias: (none) although I change my name here periodically--I just get bored. 4. To What Speculative Fiction Character do you relate or identify(describe the character): Many. Depends on this week's issue. 5. Favorite Speculative Fiction Genres: Once, it was hard SF. Now, it is more stories that explore Sociology, Ethnology, mysticism. Actually, still some hard SF because some physics gets close to mysticism now-a-days. 6. Favorite Speculative Fiction TV Show (canceled shows ok): I liked Firefly. I like Doctor Who these days. (Do I have to be consistent?) 7. Favorite Speculative Fiction Movie: Some of the usual: Bladerunner, Gattaca, A Scanner Darkly (finally a PKD story done well!). If we include fantasy, I would have to give a cheer for the Ring Trilogy. Oh, the original wicker man is the reason that I bought a dvd player. My favorite pagan movie. 8. Favorite Speculative Fiction Characters: Umm, more difficult. Most SF characters aren't people that I want to necessarily meet. Genly Ai from Le Guin's book maybe. Sam from Zelazny's Lord of Light. Marid from my first mentor's book When Gravity Fails. 9. Favorite Speculative Fiction Villain: Same comment. I look at my shelves and the best villains are not villains, per se. Oh, I know! Except that I can't recall the title right now and I can't find it on the shelves. It must be stored away. It's a SF story about a serial killer. Written from the killer's POV. Charming book because the writer successfully pulls you into the killer's viewpoint. (The protagonist starts out killing annoying people like car mechanics who don't fix your car.) Halfway through the book, you realize that you are cheering on a murderer, for g-d's sake. 11. Favorite Speculative Fiction Film or TV Adaptation of a Book: Probably, A Scanner Darkly. It's challenging. The Ring Trilogy has to be close. Both keep a close eye on the book while becoming their own creation. 12. Favorite Speculative Fiction Film or TV Adaptation of a Superhero: I'm not really into superheroes. If they film Gaiman's The Sandman, talk to me. I enjoyed the dark Batman stories (I'm a DC girl. Never did like Marvel), but superheros can't have my heart. 13. Topics of importance to you: Politics, religion. All the stuff that you aren't supposed to talk about. Securing women's rights. Free Speech. 14. Your own published works, if any: Poetry in Drumvoices, and Louisiana Review. A story in the anthology Crossroads. 15. Your web site: (no time) 16. Your Speculative Fiction Pet Peeves: the term scifi--I am trying to stop gritting my teeth, really. The assumption that SF is garbage. We are a vast ghetto however, with our own conventions and workshops. It's long past time to stop whining about that. In general, I'm happy. Just wish that people would read more. Shoot--I wish I had time to read more. 17. Memberships in science fiction clubs: None 18. Anything else you think is important: I really gotta write more. And actually send stuff out. I need a twin.
[scifinoir2] Re: OT: The History of Oil
It is a interesting way of presenting history. I haven't looked up the history of Britian in Iraq. Some of the other stuff, I knew but didn't put together in my head as policy. He's surprisingly even- handed. He admits that every nation would implement the implied policies if they had the power. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for posting this. I haven't watched all of it since it is very long. I like how 1953 was summarized... an event few Americans (and obvioiusly, few Britains either) know anything about and something the news media seems never to mention. I've forwarded this to a few folks who, ideology-wise, sit on both sides of the isle. George - - - - - - - - I'm posting this link because I can't control my enthusiasm for this piece. Although, I confess the most skiffy aspect are the theater lights powered by a bicyclist. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7374585792978336967 Tell me what you think.
[scifinoir2] OT: The History of Oil
I'm posting this link because I can't control my enthusiasm for this piece. Although, I confess the most skiffy aspect are the theater lights powered by a bicyclist. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7374585792978336967 Tell me what you think.
[scifinoir2] The Immortal - movie
Well, The Immortal finally showed up in my mailbox and I watched it over the weekend. Ummm. Interesting effort. Based on the 'extras', I guess that it is a French or Spanish film. I was hopeful at first at the Egyptian imagery. What would a movie from a society that still believed in the Egyptian gods be like? I wish that I knew, 'cause I don't think that this was it. Despite that, the use of the god Horus was creative and worked. Some of the other characters did not work at all for me. I didn't see why Allgood the politician needed to be a CGI character at all. There are several non-human characters that had to be CGI; but Allgood and his female cohort are totally human. It was very jarring to go between the CGI characters and the human characters. I wondered if they were trying to save money on people--but they had to hire voice over actors, so that can't be the answer. I think that the original question out here was about weird movies. This one fit the bill. I'm glad that I rented it, but I wouldn't buy it.
[scifinoir2] Children of Men review
I found the following section of a NY times review funny : The Children of Men is not another of Ms. James's famed detective novels, and it is not, as it has sometimes sloppily been described, science fiction. It is a trenchant analysis of politics and power that speaks urgently to this social moment, a 14-year-old work that remains surprisingly pertinent. I wonder how they would describe LeGuin's The Dispossed? It's a political novel also and she insists that she writes SF. Once again we get the canard that if it's good, it can't be science fiction.
[scifinoir2] the fountain
I did go to see The Fountain this weekend. I'd have to give it a very mixed review. In fact, probably a marginable thumb's down. We get three intertwined stories of a man learning to accept the death of a loved one. One of the stories is a fantasy written by the loved one in question who finds that she can't finish the story. She begs her physician/scientist husband to finish the story after she dies. The third story -- well--is it mystical? Realistic? I don't know. I couldn't regard it as realistic, but except for the imagery, it wasn't very mystical either. The imagery is wonderful for this section--but it doesn't provide a window into the story the way the other two sections did. It also isn't really SF. The classic definition of SF is a story that examines the effect of science on humanity. Well, we have a guy who maybe (?) finds the Tree of Life but the effect that would have on society is never examined. I can't say that the effect on him is even examined. It's a very beautiful movie. But it tries to handle a lot of topics in only 2 hours. Truely, Madly, Deeply handles a woman learning to accept the death of her lover better than this movie. I think other movies handle the effects of the search for eternal life better than this movie. (Although, I love the way the husband finally ends the wife's novel.) I'm glad that the writer/director was able to get the movie done. I hope that he's more focused next time.
[scifinoir2] Re: [Fwd: Woman Under Fire After In-Flight Flatulence]
She must have missed the Mythbusters episode where they blew that myth away. :-) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROTHFLMAO... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: Woman Under Fire After In-Flight Flatulence Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 11:26:41 -0600 From: Smith Ross, Susan Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: *Woman Under Fire After In-Flight Flatulence* */Plane Has Emergency Landing In Nashville/* UPDATED: 11:19 am EST December 5, 2006 *NASHVILLE**, Tenn.** -- *What do you do if you pass embarrassing gas on an airplane? One woman found out what not to do. A Nashville International Airport spokeswoman said an American Airlines plane bound for Texas had to make an emergency landing Monday morning in Nashville after matches were lit in flight. The pilot said the concern was what passengers said they smelled inside the aircraft and that he did not feel it was safe to continue on. About 6:30 this morning, an American Airlines pilot called the FAA tower reporting that passengers were smelling fumes like matches being struck within the cabin, said airport spokeswoman Lynne Lowrance. The 99 passengers and five crew members were taken inside the terminal after landing so the plane could be checked out. They did find evidence of where matches had been struck in an individual's seating area. That individual is being questioned by the FBI at this time, Lowrance said. A woman passenger told investigators that she lit matches to mask gas that she emitted. You can take up to eight books of safety matches, the paper matches, onto the aircraft, Lowrance said. Just before noon authorities said the passengers re-boarded the plane and continued on to Texas. The female passenger was released without being charged, but was not allowed back on the American Airlines flight. /Distributed by Internet Broadcasting. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed./ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups SouLive Susan group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/SouLive-Susan?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- Yahoo! Groups Links La'V' is always watching...Be careful who you talk to. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie - Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Re: Hollywood Eats Sci-Fi's Brains
Interesting. This movie opened over the Thanksgiving weekend, didn't it? That doesn't strike me as a movie-going period. My sister's family watched a lot of movies, but it was around the family TV. Family being the operative word. That said, I'd have to admit that when a friend and I saw the trailer, she remarked that she was NOT going to see this movie. She doesn't like those Sci-Fi movies, she remarked--even though she will probably go see Denzel's movie which is also based on a SF idea. I want to see The Fountain, but the trailer was very wishy- washy. It wasn't clear what the movie was about, other than the search for eternal life and love. It sounded like the same theme as Orlando, but Orlanda had a more hard-edged trailer. I felt like I was watching the last few minutes of 2001 and watching someone else's psyc trip is not going to draw me into a movie. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,72192-0.html Hollywood Eats Sci-Fi's Brains By Jason Silverman Nov, 29, 2006
[scifinoir2] Re: Out-of-Body Experience? Your Brain Is to Blame
A really neat article. Thanks. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out-of-Body Experience? Your Brain Is to Blame By SANDRA BLAKESLEE Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Out-of-Body Experience? Your Brain Is to Blame
I forgot to mention that this reminds me of Connie Willis's novel: Passage http://archive.salon.com/books/review/2001/05/21/willis/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: The Wicker Man
I didn't even notice the rating! Maybe Homeland Security will move in and wipe the town out. :-) In reading the complaints of the original folks, I have one quibble. They complain about the change of Lord Summerisle's sex. Actually, shouldn't a religion centered around the fertility of the earth have a matriach---not a patriarch at the center? His Lordship needed a wife at least. Wasn't Osiris symbolically sacrified each year to Isis? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since it's PG-13 I guess all the nudity and Paga debauchery will be cut. I wonder how they will screw up that classic ending? --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, being_marian md_moore42@ wrote: Well, they've gone and remade my favorite pagan movie, the Wicker man. http://thewickermanmovie.warnerbros.com/wickerman.html We just don't know when to leave a good movie alone. And in the present religious environment, I don't expect the same ending. Thank goodness, I have the original on dvd. Further reading shows that the original movie stars and writers are furious also. http://news.scotsman.com/movies.cfm?id=1921042005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Re: Dr Who's companion
Ha! Which population in GB is greater? Eastern (Paki and Indian) or Black? There are more British-Eastern stars than British-Black movie stars aren't there? Do you want to nominate Chiwetel Ejiofor? He presents a good profile. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't say I dig the hair, but an interesting move. I don't suppose they'd ever consider getting a Brother to play the Doctor's next incarnation??? _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of being_marian Sent: Saturday, 12 August, 2006 19:49 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Dr Who's companion Dr Who seems to have acquired a Black companion. http://www.bbc. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/doctormartha/ co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/doctormartha/ http://www.bbc. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/08/10/35549.shtml co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/08/10/35549.shtml [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] The Wicker Man
Well, they've gone and remade my favorite pagan movie, the Wicker man. http://thewickermanmovie.warnerbros.com/wickerman.html We just don't know when to leave a good movie alone. And in the present religious environment, I don't expect the same ending. Thank goodness, I have the original on dvd. Further reading shows that the original movie stars and writers are furious also. http://news.scotsman.com/movies.cfm?id=1921042005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Dr Who's companion
Dr Who seems to have acquired a Black companion. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/gallery/doctormartha/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/08/10/35549.shtml Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
