Re: [RE][scifinoir2] New Kevin Smith Movie Name Causing Problems?

2008-10-29 Thread KeithBJohnson
Indeed!

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle Lockhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 


Kevin says he originally had Rosario Dawson in mind for the role of Miri when 
he wrote the script. Imagine how crazy the controversy would be THEN!




On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Good point on that "Sex Drive"!

-- Original message -- 
From: "Martin Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 



Personally, despite being a Liberal Prude in Good Standing, I never had a 
problem with the original title. Still don't. And, if I may dare to ask, where 
were these Fine Upstanding Protestors when the movie "Sexdrive" came out?

Martin (shaking head, going back to taking morning meds)





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Subject : [scifinoir2] New Kevin Smith Movie Name Causing Problems?
Date : Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:42:20 +
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While watching TV tonight, I saw a trailer for Kevin Smith's movie about a 
couple of folks (Seth Rogen, Elizabeth Banks) who start making adult films to 
pay the bills. It's not the kind of movie I'd pay to see at the theatre, so 
I've paid little attention to the trailers. But tonight, glancing at the 
commercial, I noticed something askew: the title seemed off. I wasn't sure, so 
waited until the commercial came up again later--both times, this was on Comedy 
Central--and sure enough, the name's changed on the commercials. Instead of the 
original "Zack and Miri Make a Porno", it's now being billed as just "Zack and 
Miri". At least, it is on Comedy Central. S earching the Web, I see some movie 
trailer sites listing it with the new shortened title, while other are keeping 
the old one. Curious, I did a Google search, and see that the "porno" part is 
indeed causing trouble in some quarters. The story below from a week ago gives 
some info on it. Interesting, but I guess the bigger! thing 
is--is it any good? 

*** 

Zack And Miri Make A Porno Banned 


http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=10558 

Stick figures may have been enough to get the marketing materials for Zack and 
Miri Make a Porno past the MPAA, but even rendering Seth Rogen and Elizabeth 
Banks in pencil isn�t enough for some people. According to the AP, Zack and 
Miri is running into trouble everywhere, as The Weinstein Company attempts to 
roll out its marketing campaign for the film, only to have their money turned 
down by newspapers, television, and t he owners of billboards and bus shelters. 

The problem is the title, which easily offended, puritanical consumers can�t 
stand to have in front of them. For example, Fox Sports dropped commercials for 
the film which aired during the Los Angeles Dodgers games after viewer 
complaints. The complaints are, as always, in the name of protecting children. 
Kids are asking their parents to explain what the word �porno� means, and 
parents would apparently, rather have their kids glean such information on the 
playground from their friends, or perhaps from a friendly neighborhood 
pedophile. Who can blame them? Nobody wants to actually talk to their kids. 

Zack and Miri Make a Porno�s title is its greatest asset. It�s an attention 
getter, and the title alone will get butts in seats. But it�s no surprise 
that it�s also stirring up controversy. As long as Weinstein Company refuses 
to cave and drop �porno� from the title, they�ll be fine. For every TV 
station which refuses to run an ad, there's another who will. People who have a 
problem with �porno� were never going to see the movie anyway, and any 
media outlet which refuses to run the film�s advertisements likely caters to 
exactly that sort of puritanical, never going to see it anyway, audience. I 
know, words are scary. This word however, may be the very thing which propels 
Kevin Smith to his first $30 million opening.







 

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] New Kevin Smith Movie Name Causing Problems?

2008-10-29 Thread Daryle Lockhart


Kevin says he originally  had Rosario Dawson in mind for the role of  
Miri when he wrote the script. Imagine how crazy the controversy  
would be THEN!



On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Good point on that "Sex Drive"!

-- Original message --
From: "Martin Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Personally, despite being a Liberal Prude in Good Standing, I never  
had a problem with the original title. Still don't. And, if I may  
dare to ask, where were these Fine Upstanding Protestors when the  
movie "Sexdrive" came out?


Martin (shaking head, going back to taking morning meds)




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Subject : [scifinoir2] New Kevin Smith Movie Name Causing Problems?
Date : Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:42:20 +
From : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

While watching TV tonight, I saw a trailer for Kevin Smith's movie  
about a couple of folks (Seth Rogen, Elizabeth Banks) who start  
making adult films to pay the bills. It's not the kind of movie I'd  
pay to see at the theatre, so I've paid little attention to the  
trailers. But tonight, glancing at the commercial, I noticed  
something askew: the title seemed off. I wasn't sure, so waited  
until the commercial came up again later--both times, this was on  
Comedy Central--and sure enough, the name's changed on the  
commercials. Instead of the original "Zack and Miri Make a Porno",  
it's now being billed as just "Zack and Miri". At least, it is on  
Comedy Central. S earching the Web, I see some movie trailer sites  
listing it with the new shortened title, while other are keeping  
the old one. Curious, I did a Google search, and see that the  
"porno" part is indeed causing trouble in some quarters. The story  
below from a week ago gives some info on it. Interesting, but I  
guess the bigger! thing

is--is it any good?

***

Zack And Miri Make A Porno Banned


http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=10558

Stick figures may have been enough to get the marketing materials  
for Zack and Miri Make a Porno past the MPAA, but even rendering  
Seth Rogen and Elizabeth Banks in pencil isn�t enough for some  
people. According to the AP, Zack and Miri is running into trouble  
everywhere, as The Weinstein Company attempts to roll out its  
marketing campaign for the film, only to have their money turned  
down by newspapers, television, and t he owners of billboards and  
bus shelters.


The problem is the title, which easily offended, puritanical  
consumers can�t stand to have in front of them. For example, Fox  
Sports dropped commercials for the film which aired during the Los  
Angeles Dodgers games after viewer complaints. The complaints are,  
as always, in the name of protecting children. Kids are asking  
their parents to explain what the word �porno� means, and  
parents would apparently, rather have their kids glean such  
information on the playground from their friends, or perhaps from a  
friendly neighborhood pedophile. Who can blame them? Nobody wants  
to actually talk to their kids.


Zack and Miri Make a Porno�s title is its greatest asset. It�s  
an attention getter, and the title alone will get butts in seats.  
But it�s no surprise that it�s also stirring up controversy. As  
long as Weinstein Company refuses to cave and drop �porno� from  
the title, they�ll be fine. For every TV station which refuses to  
run an ad, there's another who will. People who have a problem with  
�porno� were never going to see the movie anyway, and any media  
outlet which refuses to run the film�s advertisements likely  
caters to exactly that sort of puritanical, never going to see it  
anyway, audience. I know, words are scary. This word however, may  
be the very thing which propels Kevin Smith to his first $30  
million opening.








Re: [RE][scifinoir2] New Kevin Smith Movie Name Causing Problems?

2008-10-29 Thread KeithBJohnson
Good point on that "Sex Drive"!

-- Original message -- 
From: "Martin Baxter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Personally, despite being a Liberal Prude in Good Standing, I never had a 
problem with the original title. Still don't. And, if I may dare to ask, where 
were these Fine Upstanding Protestors when the movie "Sexdrive" came out?

Martin (shaking head, going back to taking morning meds)





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Subject : [scifinoir2] New Kevin Smith Movie Name Causing Problems?
Date : Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:42:20 +
>From : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com

While watching TV tonight, I saw a trailer for Kevin Smith's movie about a 
couple of folks (Seth Rogen, Elizabeth Banks) who start making adult films to 
pay the bills. It's not the kind of movie I'd pay to see at the theatre, so 
I've paid little attention to the trailers. But tonight, glancing at the 
commercial, I noticed something askew: the title seemed off. I wasn't sure, so 
waited until the commercial came up again later--both times, this was on Comedy 
Central--and sure enough, the name's changed on the commercials. Instead of the 
original "Zack and Miri Make a Porno", it's now being billed as just "Zack and 
Miri". At least, it is on Comedy Central. Searching the Web, I see some movie 
trailer sites listing it with the new shortened title, while other are keeping 
the old one. Curious, I did a Google search, and see that the "porno" part is 
indeed causing trouble in some quarters. The story below from a week ago gives 
some info on it. Interesting, but I guess the bigger! thing 
is--is it any good? 

*** 

Zack And Miri Make A Porno Banned 


http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=10558 

Stick figures may have been enough to get the marketing materials for Zack and 
Miri Make a Porno past the MPAA, but even rendering Seth Rogen and Elizabeth 
Banks in pencil isn�t enough for some people. According to the AP, Zack and 
Miri is running into trouble everywhere, as The Weinstein Company attempts to 
roll out its marketing campaign for the film, only to have their money turned 
down by newspapers, television, and the owners of billboards and bus shelters. 

The problem is the title, which easily offended, puritanical consumers can�t 
stand to have in front of them. For example, Fox Sports dropped commercials for 
the film which aired during the Los Angeles Dodgers games after viewer 
complaints. The complaints are, as always, in the name of protecting children. 
Kids are asking their parents to explain what the word �porno� means, and 
parents would apparently, rather have their kids glean such information on the 
playground from their friends, or perhaps from a friendly neighborhood 
pedophile. Who can blame them? Nobody wants to actually talk to their kids. 

Zack and Miri Make a Porno�s title is its greatest asset. It�s an attention 
getter, and the title alone will get butts in seats. But it�s no surprise 
that it�s also stirring up controversy. As long as Weinstein Company refuses 
to cave and drop �porno� from the title, they�ll be fine. For every TV 
station which refuses to run an ad, there's another who will. People who have a 
problem with �porno� were never going to see the movie anyway, and any 
media outlet which refuses to run the film�s advertisements likely caters to 
exactly that sort of puritanical, never going to see it anyway, audience. I 
know, words are scary. This word however, may be the very thing which propels 
Kevin Smith to his first $30 million opening. 

 

[RE][scifinoir2] New Kevin Smith Movie Name Causing Problems?

2008-10-29 Thread Martin Baxter
Personally, despite being a Liberal Prude in Good Standing, I never had a 
problem with the original title. Still don't. And, if I may dare to ask, where 
were these Fine Upstanding Protestors when the movie "Sexdrive" came out?

Martin (shaking head, going back to taking morning meds)





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 Subject : [scifinoir2] New Kevin Smith Movie Name Causing Problems?

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While watching TV tonight, I saw a trailer for Kevin Smith's movie about a 
couple of folks (Seth Rogen, Elizabeth Banks) who start making adult films to 
pay the bills. It's not the kind of movie I'd pay to see at the theatre, so 
I've paid little attention to the trailers. But tonight, glancing at the 
commercial, I noticed something askew: the title seemed off. I wasn't sure, so 
waited until the commercial came up again later--both times, this was on Comedy 
Central--and sure enough, the name's changed on the commercials. Instead of the 
original "Zack and Miri Make a Porno", it's now being billed as just "Zack and 
Miri". At least, it is on Comedy Central. Searching the Web, I see some movie 
trailer sites listing it with the new shortened title, while other are keeping 
the old one. Curious, I did a Google search, and see that the "porno" part is 
indeed causing trouble in some quarters. The story below from a week ago gives 
some info on it. Interesting, but I guess the bigger t!
 hing 
is--is it any good?

***

Zack And Miri Make A Porno Banned


http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=10558

Stick figures may have been enough to get the marketing materials for Zack and 
Miri Make a Porno past the MPAA, but even rendering Seth Rogen and Elizabeth 
Banks in pencil isn�t enough for some people. According to the AP, Zack and 
Miri is running into trouble everywhere, as The Weinstein Company attempts to 
roll out its marketing campaign for the film, only to have their money turned 
down by newspapers, television, and the owners of billboards and bus shelters. 

The problem is the title, which easily offended, puritanical consumers can�t 
stand to have in front of them. For example, Fox Sports dropped commercials for 
the film which aired during the Los Angeles Dodgers games after viewer 
complaints. The complaints are, as always, in the name of protecting children. 
Kids are asking their parents to explain what the word �porno� means, and 
parents would apparently, rather have their kids glean such information on the 
playground from their friends, or perhaps from a friendly neighborhood 
pedophile. Who can blame them? Nobody wants to actually talk to their kids. 

Zack and Miri Make a Porno�s title is its greatest asset. It�s an attention 
getter, and the title alone will get butts in seats. But it�s no surprise that 
it�s also stirring up controversy. As long as Weinstein Company refuses to cave 
and drop �porno� from the title, they�ll be fine. For every TV station which 
refuses to run an ad, there's another who will. People who have a problem with 
�porno� were never going to see the movie anyway, and any media outlet which 
refuses to run the film�s advertisements likely caters to exactly that sort of 
puritanical, never going to see it anyway, audience. I know, words are scary. 
This word however, may be the very thing which propels Kevin Smith to his first 
$30 million opening.