Re: [RE][scifinoir2] OT: Talk Show Host Criticizes McCain's Weight Along with Her Views

2009-03-20 Thread Keith Johnson
Amen, brother! 

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From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:09:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] OT: Talk Show Host Criticizes McCain's Weight Along 
with Her Views 






So pathetic that it surpasses the bans. If I were a religious person, 
I'd be on my knees, praying for Ingraham. Funny thing? She probably *is* a 
regular church-goer. 






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Subject : [scifinoir2] OT: Talk Show Host Criticizes McCain's Weight Along with 
Her Views 
Date : Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:27:47 + (UTC) 
From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net 
To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 








Wow, it just keeps coming. So this lady disagrees with McCain, and instead of a 
rebuttal, decides to attack her weight? But then, what do you expect from the 
folks who brought the he's a Muslim attacks against Obama, or who elevated 
the likes of Joe the Plumber to torture us on the telly every day? 





I really believe one of the biggest problems nowadays is the out-of-proportion 
weight given to anyone with a mic or TV show who can bluster unceasingly about 
anything that ticks them off. I've often railed about how even the supposedly 
professional outfits like CNN are now populated with so-called pundits who seem 
more intent on expressing an opinion and getting exposure than actually 
analyzing and intelligently debating the issues. So much nowadays is 
grandstanding, yelling, insulting, defaming. Broken record here, i know, but 
again, this is why I watch the Jim Lehrer News Hour, listen to Bill Moyers' 
Report, and watch Charlie Rose. At least there's no name calling and fist 
pounding on their shows. 




This would be funny if it weren't so pathetic and disturbing. I'd like to 
dismiss this as just the rantings of a lady I *never* listen to, but it's 
people like her who unfortunately are feeding and feeding off the minds of so 
many angry Americans nowadays... 





 





http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/a-conservative-pundits-plus-size-remark/
 





Criticizing a woman’s weight is one of the “last frontiers of 
socially-acceptable prejudice,” says Meghan McCain, the daughter of Senator 
John McCain. 




Ms. McCain, who calls herself a progressive Republican, was responding to 
remarks by conservative radio host Laura Ingraham. It all started when Ms. 
McCain, 24, criticized Republican pundit Ann Coulter for her extreme views in 
an online column and an interview with talk show host Rachel Maddow . That 
enraged Ms. Ingraham, who responded on her radio show by mimicking Ms. McCain, 
using a caustic “Valley girl” voice. (The blog ThinkProgress has the audio .) 
Among her remarks: 



O.K., I was really hoping that I was going to get that role in “The Real 
World,” but then I realized that, well, they don’t like plus-sized models. 

Ms. McCain, who would be considered normal weight by most standards, responded 
in The Daily Beast with a highly personal column called “The Politics of Weight 
.” 



I have been teased about my weight and body figure since I was in middle 
school, and I decided a very long time ago to embrace what God gave me and live 
my life positively…. I am a size 8 and fluctuated up to a size 10 during the 
campaign. It’s ridiculous even to have this conversation because I am not 
overweight in the least and have a natural body weight. 




But even if I were overweight, it would be ridiculous. I expected substantive 
criticism from conservative pundits for my views…. My intent was to generate 
discussion about the current problems facing the Republican Party. 
Unfortunately, even though Ingraham is more than 20 years older than I and has 
been a political pundit for longer, almost, than I have been alive, she 
responded in a form that was embarrassing to herself and to any woman listening 
to her radio program who was not a size 0. 

In today’s society this is, unfortunately, predictable. Everyone from Jessica 
Simpson to Tyra Banks, Oprah and Hillary Clinton has fallen victim to this type 
of image-oriented bullying. Recent pictures of Pierce Brosnan’s wife, Keely 
Shaye Smith, on the beach in her bikini raised criticism about her weight and 
choice of bathing suit — as if the woman should be wearing a giant muumuu to 
swim in the ocean. After Kelly Clarkson’s recent appearance on “American Idol,” 
the first commentary I read on the Internet was about her weight gain instead 
of her singing. 




My weight was consistently criticized throughout the campaign. Once someone 
even suggested I go to a plastic surgeon for liposuction. Afterward, I blogged 
about loving my body and suggested critics focus their insecurities about 
women’s bodies elsewhere. On the other side, my mother was constantly slammed 
for being too skinny, so the weight obsession of the media and our culture goes 
both

[RE][scifinoir2] OT: Talk Show Host Criticizes McCain's Weight Along with Her Views

2009-03-17 Thread Martin Baxter
So pathetic that it surpasses the bans. If I were a religious person, I'd be on 
my knees, praying for Ingraham. Funny thing? She probably *is* a regular 
church-goer.





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Wow, it just keeps coming. So this lady disagrees with McCain, and instead of a 
rebuttal, decides to attack her weight? But then, what do you expect from the 
folks who brought the he's a Muslim attacks against Obama, or who elevated 
the likes of Joe the Plumber to torture us on the telly every day? 





I really believe one of the biggest problems nowadays is the out-of-proportion 
weight given to anyone with a mic or TV show who can bluster unceasingly about 
anything that ticks them off. I've often railed about how even the supposedly 
professional outfits like CNN are now populated with so-called pundits who seem 
more intent on expressing an opinion and getting exposure than actually 
analyzing and intelligently debating the issues. So much nowadays is 
grandstanding, yelling, insulting, defaming. Broken record here, i know, but 
again, this is why I watch the Jim Lehrer News Hour, listen to Bill Moyers' 
Report, and watch Charlie Rose. At least there's no name calling and fist 
pounding on their shows. 




This would be funny if it weren't so pathetic and disturbing. I'd like to 
dismiss this as just the rantings of a lady I *never* listen to, but it's 
people like her who unfortunately are feeding and feeding off the minds of so 
many angry Americans nowadays... 





 





http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/a-conservative-pundits-plus-size-remark/
 





Criticizing a woman’s weight is one of the “last frontiers of 
socially-acceptable prejudice,” says Meghan McCain, the daughter of Senator 
John McCain. 




Ms. McCain, who calls herself a progressive Republican, was responding to 
remarks by conservative radio host Laura Ingraham. It all started when Ms. 
McCain, 24, criticized Republican pundit Ann Coulter for her extreme views in 
an online column and an interview with talk show host Rachel Maddow . That 
enraged Ms. Ingraham, who responded on her radio show by mimicking Ms. McCain, 
using a caustic “Valley girl” voice. (The blog ThinkProgress has the audio .) 
Among her remarks: 



O.K., I was really hoping that I was going to get that role in “The Real 
World,” but then I realized that, well, they don’t like plus-sized models. 

Ms. McCain, who would be considered normal weight by most standards, responded 
in The Daily Beast with a highly personal column called “The Politics of Weight 
.” 



I have been teased about my weight and body figure since I was in middle 
school, and I decided a very long time ago to embrace what God gave me and live 
my life positively…. I am a size 8 and fluctuated up to a size 10 during the 
campaign. It’s ridiculous even to have this conversation because I am not 
overweight in the least and have a natural body weight. 




But even if I were overweight, it would be ridiculous. I expected substantive 
criticism from conservative pundits for my views…. My intent was to generate 
discussion about the current problems facing the Republican Party. 
Unfortunately, even though Ingraham is more than 20 years older than I and has 
been a political pundit for longer, almost, than I have been alive, she 
responded in a form that was embarrassing to herself and to any woman listening 
to her radio program who was not a size 0. 

In today’s society this is, unfortunately, predictable. Everyone from Jessica 
Simpson to Tyra Banks, Oprah and Hillary Clinton has fallen victim to this type 
of image-oriented bullying. Recent pictures of Pierce Brosnan’s wife, Keely 
Shaye Smith, on the beach in her bikini raised criticism about her weight and 
choice of bathing suit — as if the woman should be wearing a giant muumuu to 
swim in the ocean. After Kelly Clarkson’s recent appearance on “American Idol,” 
the first commentary I read on the Internet was about her weight gain instead 
of her singing. 




My weight was consistently criticized throughout the campaign. Once someone 
even suggested I go to a plastic surgeon for liposuction. Afterward, I blogged 
about loving my body and suggested critics focus their insecurities about 
women’s bodies elsewhere. On the other side, my mother was constantly slammed 
for being too skinny, so the weight obsession of the media and our culture goes 
both ways. It also goes to both parties. Hillary Clinton has consistently 
received criticism for her pantsuits and figure. Whatever someone’s party, 
these criticisms are quite obviously both wrong and distracting from the larger 
issues at play. 




The question remains: Why, after all this time and all the