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I guess the continued usage owes a lot to Lovecraft's work. He was an enormous talent but a repellent human being. Has anyone read Robert W. Chambers The King In Yellow? Chambers was one of Lovecraft's big influences and Chambers King In Yellow mythos became part of Lovecraft's Chthulhu mythos. Chamber's work centers around a cursed play that when read reveals hidden horrible truths and brings you to the attention of entities that at the very least drive you insane. If the play was performed it could summon the titular character and that by all accounts is not a good thing. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: Ditto - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 7:59:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Keith, I don't find those words antiquated either. Many of them find their ways into my stories, and some even into my everyday conversations. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:32:17 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Interesting. Like Howard, another guy who clung to his mother and was fearful and reclusive. I guess that's where the terror and primal fear of his tales (so I've heard, never having read them) originates. Stephen King, I recall, was said to be a very scary child. His friends used to enjoy terrifying him with ghost stories. I did find this passage from the entry interesting: His prose is somewhat antiquarian . Often he employed archaic vocabulary or spelling which had already by his time been replaced by contemporary coinages; examples including Esquimau , and Comanchian. He was given to heavy use of an esoteric lexicon including such words as eldritch , rugose , noisome , squamous , ichor , and cyclopean , and of attempts to transcribe dialect speech which have been criticized as clumsy, imprecise, and condescending. His works also featured British English (he was an admitted Anglophile ), and he sometimes made use of anachronistic spellings, such as compleat (for complete), shew (show), lanthorn (lantern), and phantasy (fantasy; also appearing as phantastic). Interesting because just about all of those words are fairly normal to me, especially words like shew, which are familiar to me from years of reading the King James Bible. And I wouldn't call eldritch, noisome, or ichor esoteric or antiquated at all, especially in the realms of scifi/fantasy/horror. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:53:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Keith, this might provide answers for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:38:44 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I only know of Lovecraft through references in other works (such as, surprisingly, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon series), and, ironically, through a dude I knew back in middle school who loved him, and who was also the grandson of a Klansman. What's up with his racist views? - Original Message - From: B. Smith To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:57:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter wrote: He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story
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Keith, I don't find those words antiquated either. Many of them find their ways into my stories, and some even into my everyday conversations. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:32:17 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Interesting. Like Howard, another guy who clung to his mother and was fearful and reclusive. I guess that's where the terror and primal fear of his tales (so I've heard, never having read them) originates. Stephen King, I recall, was said to be a very scary child. His friends used to enjoy terrifying him with ghost stories. I did find this passage from the entry interesting: His prose is somewhat antiquarian . Often he employed archaic vocabulary or spelling which had already by his time been replaced by contemporary coinages; examples including Esquimau , and Comanchian. He was given to heavy use of an esoteric lexicon including such words as eldritch , rugose , noisome , squamous , ichor , and cyclopean , and of attempts to transcribe dialect speech which have been criticized as clumsy, imprecise, and condescending. His works also featured British English (he was an admitted Anglophile ), and he sometimes made use of anachronistic spellings, such as compleat (for complete), shew (show), lanthorn (lantern), and phantasy (fantasy; also appearing as phantastic). Interesting because just about all of those words are fairly normal to me, especially words like shew, which are familiar to me from years of reading the King James Bible. And I wouldn't call eldritch, noisome, or ichor esoteric or antiquated at all, especially in the realms of scifi/fantasy/horror. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:53:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Keith, this might provide answers for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:38:44 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I only know of Lovecraft through references in other works (such as, surprisingly, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon series), and, ironically, through a dude I knew back in middle school who loved him, and who was also the grandson of a Klansman. What's up with his racist views? - Original Message - From: B. Smith To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:57:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter wrote: He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on The Hobbit, a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, The Strain, the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out. That's only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale Pan's Labyrinth and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the Hellboy films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics. He plans to make a Frankenstein film as well as an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's epic At the Mountains of Madness, a project he breathlessly refers to as my obsession. He would seem to be a full plate but, interviewed by phone recently, he chuckled
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Ditto - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 7:59:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Keith, I don't find those words antiquated either. Many of them find their ways into my stories, and some even into my everyday conversations. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:32:17 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Interesting. Like Howard, another guy who clung to his mother and was fearful and reclusive. I guess that's where the terror and primal fear of his tales (so I've heard, never having read them) originates. Stephen King, I recall, was said to be a very scary child. His friends used to enjoy terrifying him with ghost stories. I did find this passage from the entry interesting: His prose is somewhat antiquarian . Often he employed archaic vocabulary or spelling which had already by his time been replaced by contemporary coinages; examples including Esquimau , and Comanchian. He was given to heavy use of an esoteric lexicon including such words as eldritch , rugose , noisome , squamous , ichor , and cyclopean , and of attempts to transcribe dialect speech which have been criticized as clumsy, imprecise, and condescending. His works also featured British English (he was an admitted Anglophile ), and he sometimes made use of anachronistic spellings, such as compleat (for complete), shew (show), lanthorn (lantern), and phantasy (fantasy; also appearing as phantastic). Interesting because just about all of those words are fairly normal to me, especially words like shew, which are familiar to me from years of reading the King James Bible. And I wouldn't call eldritch, noisome, or ichor esoteric or antiquated at all, especially in the realms of scifi/fantasy/horror. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:53:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Keith, this might provide answers for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:38:44 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I only know of Lovecraft through references in other works (such as, surprisingly, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon series), and, ironically, through a dude I knew back in middle school who loved him, and who was also the grandson of a Klansman. What's up with his racist views? - Original Message - From: B. Smith To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:57:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter wrote: He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on The Hobbit, a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, The Strain, the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out. That's only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale Pan's Labyrinth and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the Hellboy films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics
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Keith, this might provide answers for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:38:44 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I only know of Lovecraft through references in other works (such as, surprisingly, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon series), and, ironically, through a dude I knew back in middle school who loved him, and who was also the grandson of a Klansman. What's up with his racist views? - Original Message - From: B. Smith To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:57:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter wrote: He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on The Hobbit, a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, The Strain, the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out. That's only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale Pan's Labyrinth and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the Hellboy films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics. He plans to make a Frankenstein film as well as an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's epic At the Mountains of Madness, a project he breathlessly refers to as my obsession. He would seem to be a full plate but, interviewed by phone recently, he chuckled and added another project to the pile: I think after `The Hobbit,' my next project may actually turn out to be `Drood,' he said, referring to the 2008 novel by Dan Simmons that presents Charles Dickens at the center of an occult mystery in 1860s Victorian London. Those three post-Hobbit projects are all for Universal, which also has hopes that Del Toro will continue his library-card approach to filmmaking by taking on Slaughterhouse-Five, Kurt Vonnegut's surreal antiwar tale of time travel. If you're keeping track, that would have Del Toro tied up well past 2015 and perhaps into 2017. He also is flirting with several other projects (Pinocchio, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and a third Hellboy film have been mentioned at various times) but perhaps only as a producer, as with the acclaimed 2007 Spanish ghost story, The Orphanage. He also wants to write more novels and to join in the increasingly popular quest to discover the land of interactive 21st century storytelling, which lies somewhere between Hollywood films and video games as we know them today. It's a dizzying career plan for the father of two (his wife and daughters have moved to New Zealand for The Hobbit), but in conversation, it's clear the cheerful storyteller is motivated by his humble, lifelong passion for genre entertainment – he wants to visit the worlds of Tolkien and Shelley, not take them over. I love what I do and I feel honored to do it, quite honestly, Del Toro said. Right now, no venture has him more enthused than The Strain, the 401-page novel that was co-written with Chuck Hogan and released in hardcover this month by William Morrow. The book has gotten generally good reviews (and peer blurbs, too, with novelist Clive Cussler gushing that it soars with spellbinding intrigue) and fulfills the earliest ambition of Del Toro. As a boy in Mexico, he dreamed of being an author long before filmmaking captured his heart. He already has found one major benefit of being
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Interesting. Like Howard, another guy who clung to his mother and was fearful and reclusive. I guess that's where the terror and primal fear of his tales (so I've heard, never having read them) originates. Stephen King, I recall, was said to be a very scary child. His friends used to enjoy terrifying him with ghost stories. I did find this passage from the entry interesting: His prose is somewhat antiquarian . Often he employed archaic vocabulary or spelling which had already by his time been replaced by contemporary coinages; examples including Esquimau , and Comanchian. He was given to heavy use of an esoteric lexicon including such words as eldritch , rugose , noisome , squamous , ichor , and cyclopean , and of attempts to transcribe dialect speech which have been criticized as clumsy, imprecise, and condescending. His works also featured British English (he was an admitted Anglophile ), and he sometimes made use of anachronistic spellings, such as compleat (for complete), shew (show), lanthorn (lantern), and phantasy (fantasy; also appearing as phantastic). Interesting because just about all of those words are fairly normal to me, especially words like shew, which are familiar to me from years of reading the King James Bible. And I wouldn't call eldritch, noisome, or ichor esoteric or antiquated at all, especially in the realms of scifi/fantasy/horror. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 8:53:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Keith, this might provide answers for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:38:44 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I only know of Lovecraft through references in other works (such as, surprisingly, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon series), and, ironically, through a dude I knew back in middle school who loved him, and who was also the grandson of a Klansman. What's up with his racist views? - Original Message - From: B. Smith To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:57:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter wrote: He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on The Hobbit, a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, The Strain, the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out. That's only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale Pan's Labyrinth and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the Hellboy films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics. He plans to make a Frankenstein film as well as an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's epic At the Mountains of Madness, a project he breathlessly refers to as my obsession. He would seem to be a full plate but, interviewed by phone recently, he chuckled and added another project to the pile: I think after `The Hobbit,' my next project may actually turn out to be `Drood,' he said, referring to the 2008 novel by Dan Simmons that presents Charles Dickens at the center of an occult mystery in 1860s Victorian London. Those three post-Hobbit projects are all for Universal, which also has hopes
[RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade
He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal ravena...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on The Hobbit, a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, The Strain, the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out. That's only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale Pan's Labyrinth and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the Hellboy films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics. He plans to make a Frankenstein film as well as an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's epic At the Mountains of Madness, a project he breathlessly refers to as my obsession. He would seem to be a full plate but, interviewed by phone recently, he chuckled and added another project to the pile: I think after `The Hobbit,' my next project may actually turn out to be `Drood,' he said, referring to the 2008 novel by Dan Simmons that presents Charles Dickens at the center of an occult mystery in 1860s Victorian London. Those three post-Hobbit projects are all for Universal, which also has hopes that Del Toro will continue his library-card approach to filmmaking by taking on Slaughterhouse-Five, Kurt Vonnegut's surreal antiwar tale of time travel. If you're keeping track, that would have Del Toro tied up well past 2015 and perhaps into 2017. He also is flirting with several other projects (Pinocchio, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and a third Hellboy film have been mentioned at various times) but perhaps only as a producer, as with the acclaimed 2007 Spanish ghost story, The Orphanage. He also wants to write more novels and to join in the increasingly popular quest to discover the land of interactive 21st century storytelling, which lies somewhere between Hollywood films and video games as we know them today. It's a dizzying career plan for the father of two (his wife and daughters have moved to New Zealand for The Hobbit), but in conversation, it's clear the cheerful storyteller is motivated by his humble, lifelong passion for genre entertainment he wants to visit the worlds of Tolkien and Shelley, not take them over. I love what I do and I feel honored to do it, quite honestly, Del Toro said. Right now, no venture has him more enthused than The Strain, the 401-page novel that was co-written with Chuck Hogan and released in hardcover this month by William Morrow. The book has gotten generally good reviews (and peer blurbs, too, with novelist Clive Cussler gushing that it soars with spellbinding intrigue) and fulfills the earliest ambition of Del Toro. As a boy in Mexico, he dreamed of being an author long before filmmaking captured his heart. He already has found one major benefit of being a novelist the absence of Hollywood machinations. I have written or co-written 15 screenplays and I have only seven movies, said Del Toro. I find it frustrating when you write a screenplay and it lives, but you don't get it produced which is a lottery it exists in a limbo that does not allow it to become public. A filmmaker will never be known by the movies he left in the drawer. Unlike a musician, a painter or a poet, nobody is going to open a box after I'm gone and say, `Oh, look, another great movie that he didn't make.' The Strain presents an unsettling tale of a vampiric virus on the loose in New York City. It was about four years ago that the story started taking shape in Del Toro's imagination and his inspiration was a surprising one. I was watching `The Wire' on cable and I was addicted to it, the filmmaker said. I really felt caught up in this idea of doing a procedural, a limited cable series, which married the ideas of biology, of anatomy, of vampirism and evolved through the seasons into the spiritual and mythological aspects of the theme and always with the everyday details and prosaic settings, and the rhythms of a procedural. The plan at first was to present The Strain as a television series, limited to three seasons, and Del
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Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal ravena...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on The Hobbit, a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, The Strain, the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out. That's only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale Pan's Labyrinth and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the Hellboy films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics. He plans to make a Frankenstein film as well as an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's epic At the Mountains of Madness, a project he breathlessly refers to as my obsession. He would seem to be a full plate but, interviewed by phone recently, he chuckled and added another project to the pile: I think after `The Hobbit,' my next project may actually turn out to be `Drood,' he said, referring to the 2008 novel by Dan Simmons that presents Charles Dickens at the center of an occult mystery in 1860s Victorian London. Those three post-Hobbit projects are all for Universal, which also has hopes that Del Toro will continue his library-card approach to filmmaking by taking on Slaughterhouse-Five, Kurt Vonnegut's surreal antiwar tale of time travel. If you're keeping track, that would have Del Toro tied up well past 2015 and perhaps into 2017. He also is flirting with several other projects (Pinocchio, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and a third Hellboy film have been mentioned at various times) but perhaps only as a producer, as with the acclaimed 2007 Spanish ghost story, The Orphanage. He also wants to write more novels and to join in the increasingly popular quest to discover the land of interactive 21st century storytelling, which lies somewhere between Hollywood films and video games as we know them today. It's a dizzying career plan for the father of two (his wife and daughters have moved to New Zealand for The Hobbit), but in conversation, it's clear the cheerful storyteller is motivated by his humble, lifelong passion for genre entertainment  he wants to visit the worlds of Tolkien and Shelley, not take them over. I love what I do and I feel honored to do it, quite honestly, Del Toro said. Right now, no venture has him more enthused than The Strain, the 401-page novel that was co-written with Chuck Hogan and released in hardcover this month by William Morrow. The book has gotten generally good reviews (and peer blurbs, too, with novelist Clive Cussler gushing that it soars with spellbinding intrigue) and fulfills the earliest ambition of Del Toro. As a boy in Mexico, he dreamed of being an author long before filmmaking captured his heart. He already has found one major benefit of being a novelist  the absence of Hollywood machinations. I have written or co-written 15 screenplays and I have only seven movies, said Del Toro. I find it frustrating when you write a screenplay and it lives, but you don't get it produced  which is a lottery  it exists in a limbo that does not allow it to become public. A filmmaker will never be known by the movies he left in the drawer. Unlike a musician, a painter or a poet, nobody is going to open a box after I'm gone and say, `Oh, look, another great movie that he didn't make.' The Strain presents an unsettling tale of a vampiric virus on the loose in New York City. It was about four years ago that the story started taking shape in Del Toro's imagination and his inspiration was a surprising one. I was watching `The Wire' on cable and I was addicted to
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B, I'm going to look at it this way. Think of how old H.P. must be twisting in his grave, knowing that someone *non*-White will knock it out of the park... Martin (never above psychological sadism for a good cause) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:57:03 - From : B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on The Hobbit, a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, The Strain, the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out. That's only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale Pan's Labyrinth and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the Hellboy films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics. He plans to make a Frankenstein film as well as an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's epic At the Mountains of Madness, a project he breathlessly refers to as my obsession. He would seem to be a full plate but, interviewed by phone recently, he chuckled and added another project to the pile: I think after `The Hobbit,' my next project may actually turn out to be `Drood,' he said, referring to the 2008 novel by Dan Simmons that presents Charles Dickens at the center of an occult mystery in 1860s Victorian London. Those three post-Hobbit projects are all for Universal, which also has hopes that Del Toro will continue his library-card approach to filmmaking by taking on Slaughterhouse-Five, Kurt Vonnegut's surreal antiwar tale of time travel. If you're keeping track, that would have Del Toro tied up well past 2015 and perhaps into 2017. He also is flirting with several other projects (Pinocchio, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and a third Hellboy film have been mentioned at various times) but perhaps only as a producer, as with the acclaimed 2007 Spanish ghost story, The Orphanage. He also wants to write more novels and to join in the increasingly popular quest to discover the land of interactive 21st century storytelling, which lies somewhere between Hollywood films and video games as we know them today. It's a dizzying career plan for the father of two (his wife and daughters have moved to New Zealand for The Hobbit), but in conversation, it's clear the cheerful storyteller is motivated by his humble, lifelong passion for genre entertainment  he wants to visit the worlds of Tolkien and Shelley, not take them over. I love what I do and I feel honored to do it, quite honestly, Del Toro said. Right now, no venture has him more enthused than The Strain, the 401-page novel that was co-written with Chuck Hogan and released in hardcover this month by William Morrow. The book has gotten generally good reviews (and peer blurbs, too, with novelist Clive Cussler gushing that it soars with spellbinding intrigue) and fulfills the earliest ambition of Del Toro. As a boy in Mexico, he dreamed of being an author long before filmmaking captured his heart. He already has found one major benefit of being a novelist  the absence of Hollywood machinations. I have written or co-written 15 screenplays and I have only seven movies, said Del Toro. I find it frustrating when you write a screenplay and it lives, but you don't get it produced  which is a lottery  it exists in a limbo that does not allow it to become public. A filmmaker will never be known by the movies he left in the drawer. Unlike
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I only know of Lovecraft through references in other works (such as, surprisingly, The Real Ghostbusters cartoon series), and, ironically, through a dude I knew back in middle school who loved him, and who was also the grandson of a Klansman. What's up with his racist views? - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:57:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Lovecraft's racism have permanently soured me on his work. I know del Toro will knock it out of the park but it's a bittersweet feeling. Drood is an interesting novel but I couldn't plow through it. Dan Simmons has caught a case of the bloat. And the crazy but that's a whole different story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: He's doing Lovecraft... (breaks out into the HappyHappyJoyJoy Dance) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro Decade Date : Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:06 - From : ravenadal ravena...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Del Toro co-writes vampire movie; wants to film Drood. (Check out the link for the pictures) http://oluik.notlong.com Prepare for the Guillermo del Toro decade: 'The Hobbit' director is just getting started One of the gentle souls in the movie business is Guillermo del Toro, and I always look forward to my interviews with him. This is a longer version of my latest story on Del Toro, which is scheduled to run Thursday on the cover of the Los Angeles Times Calender section. On the far side of the globe, in New Zealand, filmmaker Guillermo del Toro is now in his seventh month of labor on The Hobbit, a $300-million epic that will be told over two films in 2011 and 2012. But you can also find the Guadalajara native on the shelf of your local bookstore with his just-released debut novel, The Strain, the opening installment of a vampire trilogy he already has mapped out. That's only the beginning. The 44-year-old Del Toro, who was nominated for an Oscar for the dark fairy tale Pan's Labyrinth and showed his crowd-pleasing sensibilities with the Hellboy films, also has plans to reanimate some musty and monstrous literary classics. He plans to make a Frankenstein film as well as an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft's epic At the Mountains of Madness, a project he breathlessly refers to as my obsession. He would seem to be a full plate but, interviewed by phone recently, he chuckled and added another project to the pile: I think after `The Hobbit,' my next project may actually turn out to be `Drood,' he said, referring to the 2008 novel by Dan Simmons that presents Charles Dickens at the center of an occult mystery in 1860s Victorian London. Those three post-Hobbit projects are all for Universal, which also has hopes that Del Toro will continue his library-card approach to filmmaking by taking on Slaughterhouse-Five, Kurt Vonnegut's surreal antiwar tale of time travel. If you're keeping track, that would have Del Toro tied up well past 2015 and perhaps into 2017. He also is flirting with several other projects (Pinocchio, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and a third Hellboy film have been mentioned at various times) but perhaps only as a producer, as with the acclaimed 2007 Spanish ghost story, The Orphanage. He also wants to write more novels and to join in the increasingly popular quest to discover the land of interactive 21st century storytelling, which lies somewhere between Hollywood films and video games as we know them today. It's a dizzying career plan for the father of two (his wife and daughters have moved to New Zealand for The Hobbit), but in conversation, it's clear the cheerful storyteller is motivated by his humble, lifelong passion for genre entertainment – he wants to visit the worlds of Tolkien and Shelley, not take them over. I love what I do and I feel honored to do it, quite honestly, Del Toro said. Right now, no venture has him more enthused than The Strain, the 401-page novel that was co-written with Chuck Hogan and released in hardcover this month by William Morrow. The book has gotten generally good reviews (and peer blurbs, too, with novelist Clive Cussler gushing that it soars with spellbinding intrigue) and fulfills the earliest ambition of Del Toro. As a boy in Mexico, he dreamed of being an author long before filmmaking captured his heart. He already has found one major benefit of being a novelist – the absence of Hollywood machinations. I have written or co-written 15 screenplays and I have only seven movies, said Del Toro. I find it frustrating when you write a screenplay and it lives, but you don't get it produced – which is a lottery – it exists in a limbo
