Re: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films
Right, which is why I kinda wish they'd take the time to get it right and do it completely from scratch, instead of using this conversion stuff. It seems though, from this article, that the director has access to true 3D cameras, but simply finds the process too cumbersome and complex? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:11:52 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films From what I've read in the trade magazines they don't have a selection of pro-level 3d cameras yet. There are only 2 types of 3d camera available right now. 2 similar cameras bolted together or a weird lens system. The companies that make pro level cameras just recently perfected high res cameras last year. (there are also format issues such as 4.2.2 vs 4.4.4, RED etc.) Then Avatar came along and now everyone wants to shoot in 3d which produces a whole new set of problems (like proper focus of a stereo image) they will be kind of re-inventing the wheel with 3d unless everything is done in CGI. Which is why most directors haven't made the leap yet. Also, the pricing for the cameras is huge right now. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: So each movie will be shot primarily in 2D--except for some fight scenes--then converted to 3D? I wish I understood why the conversion is better. The Cap movie director says shooting in 3D was horrible, hence the conversion route. But isn't it better to do it completely in 3D from the start, the way Cameron did? This half-a$$ system is more irritating than the nigh-irrational move to 3D itself. And dude, one thing from the article: David Tennant as a possible Bruce Banner? That would be freaking awesome, almost as much as Jackie Earle Haley in the role! I just don't see Nathan Filian--way too big and macho. - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:42:01 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films Hero Complex For your inner fanboy It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films July 14, 2010 EXCLUSIVE FIRST-LOOK PHOTO: THE GODS OFTHOR http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/thor-3d-captain-america-3d-comiccon-marvel-studios.html -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films
There aren't any true 3d cameras available yet. Only dual HD cameras (side by side) or the ones with the lens configuration. No one has released a single or double lens single unit camera yet. They basically overlay two streams of video to get the 3d effect but true 3d doesn't exist yet. Also, shooting the film will create new problems such as lighting issues, picture clarity, blur problems etc. Then editing would also be a nightmare as well because the software to do it doesn't exist yet either. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Right, which is why I kinda wish they'd take the time to get it right and do it completely from scratch, instead of using this conversion stuff. It seems though, from this article, that the director has access to true 3D cameras, but simply finds the process too cumbersome and complex? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 11:11:52 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films From what I've read in the trade magazines they don't have a selection of pro-level 3d cameras yet. There are only 2 types of 3d camera available right now. 2 similar cameras bolted together or a weird lens system. The companies that make pro level cameras just recently perfected high res cameras last year. (there are also format issues such as 4.2.2 vs 4.4.4, RED etc.) Then Avatar came along and now everyone wants to shoot in 3d which produces a whole new set of problems (like proper focus of a stereo image) they will be kind of re-inventing the wheel with 3d unless everything is done in CGI. Which is why most directors haven't made the leap yet. Also, the pricing for the cameras is huge right now. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: So each movie will be shot primarily in 2D--except for some fight scenes--then converted to 3D? I wish I understood why the conversion is better. The Cap movie director says shooting in 3D was horrible, hence the conversion route. But isn't it better to do it completely in 3D from the start, the way Cameron did? This half-a$$ system is more irritating than the nigh-irrational move to 3D itself. And dude, one thing from the article: David Tennant as a possible Bruce Banner? That would be freaking awesome, almost as much as Jackie Earle Haley in the role! I just don't see Nathan Filian--way too big and macho. - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:42:01 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films Hero Complex For your inner fanboy It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films July 14, 2010 EXCLUSIVE FIRST-LOOK PHOTO: THE GODS OFTHOR http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/thor-3d-captain-america-3d-comiccon-marvel-studios.html -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films
Brent, I'm with Keith in liking the Tennant-as-Banner possibility. Overall, though -- WHY BOTHER with the 3D in ANY way? Just make the danged movie. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:42 PM, brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us wrote: Hero Complex For your inner fanboy It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films July 14, 2010 EXCLUSIVE FIRST-LOOK PHOTO: THE GODS OFTHOR http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/thor-3d-captain-america-3d-comiccon-marvel-studios.html -- If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell wrote the script? -- Charles E Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
Re: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films
From what I've read in the trade magazines they don't have a selection of pro-level 3d cameras yet. There are only 2 types of 3d camera available right now. 2 similar cameras bolted together or a weird lens system. The companies that make pro level cameras just recently perfected high res cameras last year. (there are also format issues such as 4.2.2 vs 4.4.4, RED etc.) Then Avatar came along and now everyone wants to shoot in 3d which produces a whole new set of problems (like proper focus of a stereo image) they will be kind of re-inventing the wheel with 3d unless everything is done in CGI. Which is why most directors haven't made the leap yet. Also, the pricing for the cameras is huge right now. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: So each movie will be shot primarily in 2D--except for some fight scenes--then converted to 3D? I wish I understood why the conversion is better. The Cap movie director says shooting in 3D was horrible, hence the conversion route. But isn't it better to do it completely in 3D from the start, the way Cameron did? This half-a$$ system is more irritating than the nigh-irrational move to 3D itself. And dude, one thing from the article: David Tennant as a possible Bruce Banner? That would be freaking awesome, almost as much as Jackie Earle Haley in the role! I just don't see Nathan Filian--way too big and macho. - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:42:01 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films Hero Complex For your inner fanboy It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films July 14, 2010 EXCLUSIVE FIRST-LOOK PHOTO: THE GODS OFTHOR http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/thor-3d-captain-america-3d-comiccon-marvel-studios.html -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
[scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films
Hero Complex For your inner fanboy It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films July 14, 2010 EXCLUSIVE FIRST-LOOK PHOTO: THE GODS OFTHOR http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/thor-3d-captain-america-3d-comiccon-marvel-studios.html
Re: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films
So each movie will be shot primarily in 2D--except for some fight scenes--then converted to 3D? I wish I understood why the conversion is better. The Cap movie director says shooting in 3D was horrible, hence the conversion route. But isn't it better to do it completely in 3D from the start, the way Cameron did? This half-a$$ system is more irritating than the nigh-irrational move to 3D itself. And dude, one thing from the article: David Tennant as a possible Bruce Banner? That would be freaking awesome, almost as much as Jackie Earle Haley in the role! I just don't see Nathan Filian--way too big and macho. - Original Message - From: brent wodehouse brent_wodeho...@thefence.us To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:42:01 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films Hero Complex For your inner fanboy It's official: 'Thor' and 'Captain America' will be 3-D films July 14, 2010 EXCLUSIVE FIRST-LOOK PHOTO: THE GODS OFTHOR http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/thor-3d-captain-america-3d-comiccon-marvel-studios.html
