RE: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation
I just had a horrible thought. A "Quantum Armor" mini-series. Rhodey's armor sends him leaping uncontrollably throught the entire past of the Marvel Universe, helping heroes at critical times in history. Martin (again bemoaning ack of vomiting smileys) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:23:04 +0000 Subject: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation http://nauluz.notlong.com Quesada on War Machine cancellation and the characters future. For those of you who missed the announcement (like me) they are canceling War Machine. In this week Cup O' Joe Marvel head honcho goes into the details and the future of the character. "Why Cancel War machine? Why not put a Big artist on the book to attract attention why not try a little harder to move him from behind Tony Starks shadow and establish him as his own character by putting him on an Avengers book or something?" Joe Quesada: Here's the skinny when you ask, why not just put a BIG artist on the book to attract attention, you make it sound like we operate under a business practice that just tells creators what they have to do as opposed to what they like to work on. Also, let me add that Leo Manco is an AMAZING artist and has done the work of his life on "WM," and Greg Pak is one of the industry's top writers, so we put some of our best creative talent on the title. However, in the case of "War Machine," much like "Runaways," we're retooling and eventually looking to relaunch the book in a way that will garner it some extra attention and hopefully some added readers. We've done this quite successfully in the past, "Runaways" and "She-Hulk" being perfect examples of this, and also, while I'm not at liberty to say this, with War Machine, we have some very big plans that have been put into motion, but you'll have to wait a bit to find out what those are. What I can say is that my gut tells me you're going to be seeing more of Jim Rhodes doing his thing, than you ever thought possible. _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
RE: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation
Harp away, Keith! I really don't read either of those books, so reading your post was nothing short of a revelation. To paraphrase J Anthony Brown, "Not-so-hiddennn racism..." "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:45:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation I tried to read War Machine, but I didn't like the tone of the books. I get that the tone reflects the title, but it's too much about full-on battles and bullets for me. The other, more important thing I don't like is what's been done to Rhodes himself: another cyborg. I don't know when or how this happened, but Rhodes is essentially part of his armor, a scarred and mutilated man who needs a charge from the armor in order to survice. (Kinda puts a damper on the love life). I may harp on this too much for some, but I really am tired of black male characters being deformed or changed in some way. The years have given us Cyborg, Black Racer, Spawn, Geordi on TNG, etc. So when I pick up recent copies of Iron Man, and then War Machine, I grimaced when seeing Rhodey's skeletal, cyborg face, thought "nothing happening here" when i saw the lovely Asian doctor working with him. Odd that Tony Stark's great change took the place of being "infected" with a techno-organic thing called "Extremis", which turned him into a living organic suit of armor--yet all the change was invisible to the eye. The Extremis tech enhanced Stark, but did so without making him look like a creature. So for me, change means given Rhodey a human body again (evidently Stark was working on a new body last I checked, and Norman Osborn took), give him a more balanced life aside from that of a man of war, and make him more of a human than simply a machine. - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:23:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation http://nauluz.notlong.com Quesada on War Machine cancellation and the characters future. For those of you who missed the announcement (like me) they are canceling War Machine. In this week Cup O' Joe Marvel head honcho goes into the details and the future of the character. "Why Cancel War machine? Why not put a Big artist on the book to attract attention why not try a little harder to move him from behind Tony Starks shadow and establish him as his own character by putting him on an Avengers book or something?" Joe Quesada: Here's the skinny when you ask, why not just put a BIG artist on the book to attract attention, you make it sound like we operate under a business practice that just tells creators what they have to do as opposed to what they like to work on. Also, let me add that Leo Manco is an AMAZING artist and has done the work of his life on "WM," and Greg Pak is one of the industry's top writers, so we put some of our best creative talent on the title. However, in the case of "War Machine," much like "Runaways," we're retooling and eventually looking to relaunch the book in a way that will garner it some extra attention and hopefully some added readers. We've done this quite successfully in the past, "Runaways" and "She-Hulk" being perfect examples of this, and also, while I'm not at liberty to say this, with War Machine, we have some very big plans that have been put into motion, but you'll have to wait a bit to find out what those are. What I can say is that my gut tells me you're going to be seeing more of Jim Rhodes doing his thing, than you ever thought possible. _ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC that’s right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290
Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation
Refrigerators in Negros? Justin On 9/28/09, Keith Johnson wrote: > I tried to read War Machine, but I didn't like the tone of the books. I get > that the tone reflects the title, but it's too much about full-on battles > and bullets for me. The other, more important thing I don't like is what's > been done to Rhodes himself: another cyborg. I don't know when or how this > happened, but Rhodes is essentially part of his armor, a scarred and > mutilated man who needs a charge from the armor in order to survice. (Kinda > puts a damper on the love life). > > I may harp on this too much for some, but I really am tired of black male > characters being deformed or changed in some way. The years have given us > Cyborg, Black Racer, Spawn, Geordi on TNG, etc. So when I pick up recent > copies of Iron Man, and then War Machine, I grimaced when seeing Rhodey's > skeletal, cyborg face, thought "nothing happening here" when i saw the > lovely Asian doctor working with him. Odd that Tony Stark's great change > took the place of being "infected" with a techno-organic thing called > "Extremis", which turned him into a living organic suit of armor--yet all > the change was invisible to the eye. The Extremis tech enhanced Stark, but > did so without making him look like a creature. > > So for me, change means given Rhodey a human body again (evidently Stark was > working on a new body last I checked, and Norman Osborn took), give him a > more balanced life aside from that of a man of war, and make him more of a > human than simply a machine. > - Original Message - > From: "Kelwyn" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:23:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation > > > > > > > http://nauluz.notlong.com > > Quesada on War Machine cancellation and the characters future. > > For those of you who missed the announcement (like me) they are canceling > War Machine. In this week Cup O' Joe Marvel head honcho goes into the > details and the future of the character. > > "Why Cancel War machine? Why not put a Big artist on the book to attract > attention why not try a little harder to move him from behind Tony Starks > shadow and establish him as his own character by putting him on an Avengers > book or something?" > > Joe Quesada: Here's the skinny when you ask, why not just put a BIG artist > on the book to attract attention, you make it sound like we operate under a > business practice that just tells creators what they have to do as opposed > to what they like to work on. Also, let me add that Leo Manco is an AMAZING > artist and has done the work of his life on "WM," and Greg Pak is one of the > industry's top writers, so we put some of our best creative talent on the > title. However, in the case of "War Machine," much like "Runaways," we're > retooling and eventually looking to relaunch the book in a way that will > garner it some extra attention and hopefully some added readers. We've done > this quite successfully in the past, "Runaways" and "She-Hulk" being perfect > examples of this, and also, while I'm not at liberty to say this, with War > Machine, we have some very big plans that have been put into motion, but > you'll have to wait a bit to find out what those are. What I can say is that > my gut tells me you're going to be seeing more of Jim Rhodes doing his > thing, than you ever thought possible. > > > -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation
I tried to read War Machine, but I didn't like the tone of the books. I get that the tone reflects the title, but it's too much about full-on battles and bullets for me. The other, more important thing I don't like is what's been done to Rhodes himself: another cyborg. I don't know when or how this happened, but Rhodes is essentially part of his armor, a scarred and mutilated man who needs a charge from the armor in order to survice. (Kinda puts a damper on the love life). I may harp on this too much for some, but I really am tired of black male characters being deformed or changed in some way. The years have given us Cyborg, Black Racer, Spawn, Geordi on TNG, etc. So when I pick up recent copies of Iron Man, and then War Machine, I grimaced when seeing Rhodey's skeletal, cyborg face, thought "nothing happening here" when i saw the lovely Asian doctor working with him. Odd that Tony Stark's great change took the place of being "infected" with a techno-organic thing called "Extremis", which turned him into a living organic suit of armor--yet all the change was invisible to the eye. The Extremis tech enhanced Stark, but did so without making him look like a creature. So for me, change means given Rhodey a human body again (evidently Stark was working on a new body last I checked, and Norman Osborn took), give him a more balanced life aside from that of a man of war, and make him more of a human than simply a machine. - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:23:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation http://nauluz.notlong.com Quesada on War Machine cancellation and the characters future. For those of you who missed the announcement (like me) they are canceling War Machine. In this week Cup O' Joe Marvel head honcho goes into the details and the future of the character. "Why Cancel War machine? Why not put a Big artist on the book to attract attention why not try a little harder to move him from behind Tony Starks shadow and establish him as his own character by putting him on an Avengers book or something?" Joe Quesada: Here's the skinny when you ask, why not just put a BIG artist on the book to attract attention, you make it sound like we operate under a business practice that just tells creators what they have to do as opposed to what they like to work on. Also, let me add that Leo Manco is an AMAZING artist and has done the work of his life on "WM," and Greg Pak is one of the industry's top writers, so we put some of our best creative talent on the title. However, in the case of "War Machine," much like "Runaways," we're retooling and eventually looking to relaunch the book in a way that will garner it some extra attention and hopefully some added readers. We've done this quite successfully in the past, "Runaways" and "She-Hulk" being perfect examples of this, and also, while I'm not at liberty to say this, with War Machine, we have some very big plans that have been put into motion, but you'll have to wait a bit to find out what those are. What I can say is that my gut tells me you're going to be seeing more of Jim Rhodes doing his thing, than you ever thought possible.
[scifinoir2] Marvel honcho on War Machine cancellation
http://nauluz.notlong.com Quesada on War Machine cancellation and the characters future. For those of you who missed the announcement (like me) they are canceling War Machine. In this week Cup O' Joe Marvel head honcho goes into the details and the future of the character. "Why Cancel War machine? Why not put a Big artist on the book to attract attention why not try a little harder to move him from behind Tony Starks shadow and establish him as his own character by putting him on an Avengers book or something?" Joe Quesada: Here's the skinny when you ask, why not just put a BIG artist on the book to attract attention, you make it sound like we operate under a business practice that just tells creators what they have to do as opposed to what they like to work on. Also, let me add that Leo Manco is an AMAZING artist and has done the work of his life on "WM," and Greg Pak is one of the industry's top writers, so we put some of our best creative talent on the title. However, in the case of "War Machine," much like "Runaways," we're retooling and eventually looking to relaunch the book in a way that will garner it some extra attention and hopefully some added readers. We've done this quite successfully in the past, "Runaways" and "She-Hulk" being perfect examples of this, and also, while I'm not at liberty to say this, with War Machine, we have some very big plans that have been put into motion, but you'll have to wait a bit to find out what those are. What I can say is that my gut tells me you're going to be seeing more of Jim Rhodes doing his thing, than you ever thought possible.
