[scifinoir2] New Moon: Hooking up's gender gap
www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi oped1129hookupnov29,0,6779200.story chicagotribune.com Hooking up's gender gap Men make the rules on sex today By Jonathan Zimmerman November 29, 2009 Hey, do you want to hook up? If you're like lots of American high school and college students, the answer is clearly "yes." But when you look at the reasons, you'll find an enormous gender divide. Girls have sex in order to score a boyfriend, and boys simply want to score. And the boys are winning. That explains the overwhelming success of Stephenie Meyer's "Twilight" teenage books, as well as the most recent film adaptation, "The Twilight Saga: New Moon," which sold a whopping $140.7 million in tickets in its first weekend in North American theaters. An estimated 80 percent of the viewers were female, and half the audience was under the age of 21. Why are young American women flocking to a movie where the hero -- a hunky dude named Edward, who also happens to be a vampire -- refuses to have sex with the heroine-loner Bella, lest he harm her with his supernatural powers? The answer lies in a University of Missouri survey of 4,000 "Twilight" fans. And it's not that complicated: Girls want love, not just sex. "This series represents a backlash to the 'hooking up' culture," explained one author of the study. " 'Twilight' has been a way for young girls to acknowledge their emerging sexuality without actually having sex." In other words, it's a female fantasy. It's also every boy's nightmare. After all, the hooking-up deal works pretty well for guys. Lots and lots of sex, without all that messy relationship stuff? What's not to like? On this not-so-delicate subject, I've heard plenty of my 40- and 50-something male peers complain that they were born several decades too early. But I have never, ever heard a woman say she'd prefer today's hooking-up system to the dating rituals we grew up with. Remember dating? As quaint as is it might sound today, dating required you to get to know a girl before you did anything else. The goal might be the same -- indeed, it often was the same -- but you had to follow several distinct steps to get there. That was far better for girls, who could decide if they liked a guy before physical intimacy began. Now, the order is reversed: You hook up first, then decide if you want to "go out." And it turns out -- surprise, surprise -- that most guys don't want the second part, so long as they get the first. "They're in college, they don't want a girlfriend," one female college student told La Salle University sociologist Kathleen Bogle. "They basically just want to get (sex)." So why do women put up with this? As Bogle explains in her book, "Hooking Up: Sex, Dating and Relationships on Campus," part of the reason is that they overestimate the frequency of sex among their peers. Nationwide, about one-quarter of college students remain virgins. So when women presume that "everybody is doing it" -- so they need to do it too -- they're wrong. Moreover, "it" can mean many different things. In one survey at a large northeastern university, 78 percent of students had "hooked up" at least once. But among those students, only 38 percent reported a hook-up that culminated in sexual intercourse. The rest had kissed, groped or engaged in oral sex without going all the way. No matter what you call it, though, many women feel that they must engage in a certain degree of sexual activity to have any hope of finding a boyfriend -- or, down the road, a husband. They well understand that most hookups will not lead to the type of relationship that they really want. But they just don't see any other way to get there. It doesn't help that women outnumber men on most college campuses, where there are about 80 men for every 100 women. So men are the scarce resource, and they get to make the rules. And they know it, too. "No real commitment, no real feelings involved, this is like a guy's paradise," Bogle said one male student told her. "I mean this is what guys have been wanting for many, many years. And women have always resisted, but now they are going along with it." The male student is right. Since the sexual revolution of the 1960s, women have made enormous strides in education, income and professional achievement. But when it comes to sex, it's still a man's world. And that's why young women are celebrating an imaginary one, in the movies, where the guy actually loves you before he makes love to you. Even if he is a vampire. Jonathan Zimmerman teaches history and education at New York University. He is the author of "Small Wonder: The Little Red Schoolhouse in History and Memory." Copyright © 2009, Chicago Tribune
[scifinoir2] "New Moon" Shatters Expectations
LOS ANGELES - The vampire romance "The Twilight Saga: New Moon" sucked up $140.7 million in its first three days and pulled in a total of $258.8 million worldwide, according to studio estimates Sunday. The No. 1 domestic debut for Summit Entertainment's "New Moon" was more than twice the $69.6 million haul over the same weekend last year for "Twilight," the first in the franchise based on Stephenie Meyer's novels. "Obviously, with the success of `Twilight' itself, sequels being what they are will generate X-number of dollars more, particularly if it's a satisfying sequel," said Richie Fay, head of distribution for Summit. "New Moon" placed third on the all-time domestic chart behind last year's $158.4 million opening weekend for the Batman blockbuster "The Dark Knight" and 2007's $151.1 million haul for "Spider-Man 3." Among the top-10 all-time openings, "New Moon" is the only one that came outside of Hollywood's busiest time, the summer season. The movie adaptation of Meyer's next "Twilight" chapter, "Eclipse," arrives in the heart of summer, next June 30.
[scifinoir2] New Moon has monster opening
"The Twilight Saga: New Moon" has set a box-office record for midnight screenings. Summit Entertainment estimated Friday it earned $26.3 million in midnight screenings.
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Yeah I agree the Team Edward trailer is way better then the Team Jacob trailer. Cause I was ready to pass New Moon by and let it be a DVD/Netflix selection but now I want to see it. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood < aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess. > > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. > > Uhh... Go Team Jacob? > > *Aubrey Leatherwood > *www.aubreyleatherwood.com > FaceBook <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918> * > MySpace<http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood> > Dime > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books > *Imperfection* <http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html> > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > *The People You Know, The Sex They > Have*<http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html> > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 > > > > > > > > ---------- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: ravena...@yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon > >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it > does look like hot fire. > > ~rave! > > > > -- > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/> > > > -- Get Social: Facebook: http://facebook.com/greasyguide http://facebook.com/mikestreet Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/streetforce1 Stuff I'm Doing: Help give kids access to technology join in NYC Twestvial Sept. 12th, 2009 supporting Camp Interactive. Get your tickets for $20 now at http://www.amiando.com/nyctwestival.html GreasyGuide.com - HarlemFoodie.com
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I'm not big on movie sequels at all, but here's one I'd greenlight... Dracula himself, upon learning of the existence of this pack, decides that this isn't what he intended for vampyr to evolve into, and comes to town to clean house. Martin (smiling *way* too much at that) "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:02:10 -0400 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] New Moon I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess. I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. Uhh... Go Team Jacob? Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Coming November 2 from Phaze Books Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 + Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like hot fire. ~rave! Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. _ Ready for Fall shows? Use Bing to find helpful ratings and reviews on digital tv's. http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?q=digital+tv's&form=MSHNCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHNCB_Vertical_Shopping_DigitalTVs_1x1
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As an author of vampire novels, I FEEL YOUR PAIN. Trust me! Every time someone actually asks me if they're like Twilight, my canned response is "No, my books are very adult." ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > Adrianne, I'm telling my fifteen-year-old niece that you said that... > > Honestly, you're right. They are nicely-bound pieces of sh*t, an immense > downer for a guy like me who's been writing for most of his life, receiving > praise from everyone who's ever read my stuff and encouraged to publish, > only to be terrified by the Publishing Machine, while she churns out that > stuff and gains worldwide acclaim. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:10:15 -0400 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon > > > I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them > is Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny, > wretched, unlikable Bella? > > UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH > > ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ > http://www.adriannebrennan.com > Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html > Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood < > aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess. > > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. > > Uhh... Go Team Jacob? > > *Aubrey Leatherwood > *www.aubreyleatherwood.com > FaceBook <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918> * > MySpace<http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood> > Dime > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books > *Imperfection* <http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html> > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > *The People You Know, The Sex They > Have*<http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html> > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 > > > > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: ravena...@yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon > >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it > does look like hot fire. > > ~rave! > > > > -- > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/> > > > > > -- > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/> > > >
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Adrianne, I'm telling my fifteen-year-old niece that you said that... Honestly, you're right. They are nicely-bound pieces of sh*t, an immense downer for a guy like me who's been writing for most of his life, receiving praise from everyone who's ever read my stuff and encouraged to publish, only to be terrified by the Publishing Machine, while she churns out that stuff and gains worldwide acclaim. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:10:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them is Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny, wretched, unlikable Bella? UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess. I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. Uhh... Go Team Jacob? Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Coming November 2 from Phaze Books Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 + Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like hot fire. ~rave! Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
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She *is* wretched and whiny, isn't she? Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Coming November 2 from Phaze Books Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:10:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Moon I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them is Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny, wretched, unlikable Bella? UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood wrote: I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess. I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. Uhh... Go Team Jacob? Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Coming November 2 from Phaze Books Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 + Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like hot fire. ~rave! Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
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I tried reading the books. They are WRETCHED. The only good thing in them is Alice. Why couldn't she have been the main char instead of that whiny, wretched, unlikable Bella? UGH UGH UGH UGH UGH ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Aubrey Leatherwood < aubrey.leatherw...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw > the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to > read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess. > > I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. > > Uhh... Go Team Jacob? > > *Aubrey Leatherwood > *www.aubreyleatherwood.com > FaceBook <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918> * > MySpace<http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood> > Dime > Coming November 2 from Phaze Books > *Imperfection* <http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html> > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > *The People You Know, The Sex They > Have*<http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html> > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 > > > > > > > > ------ > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: ravena...@yahoo.com > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 + > Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon > >Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV > Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it > does look like hot fire. > > ~rave! > > > > -- > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it > now.<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/> > > >
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I saw the trailer and it made me get all adrenaline-y too. However, I saw the first one and it was not the greatest thing ever. I have attempted to read the books but, it's just not my thing I guess. I'll probably see the movie just because I'm a sucker for an action flick. Uhh... Go Team Jacob? Aubrey Leatherwood www.aubreyleatherwood.com FaceBook * MySpace Dime Coming November 2 from Phaze Books Imperfection A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. The People You Know, The Sex They Have ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:59:41 + Subject: [scifinoir2] New Moon Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like hot fire. ~rave! _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/
[scifinoir2] New Moon
Just saw the "extended" trailer for the movie "New Moon" on the MTV Video Music Awards. It almost makes me want to read the book (not!). But it does look like hot fire. ~rave!
