RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(
LOL! Oh! Did I forget to turn sarcasm on??? :o) Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 5:47 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :( Reece, my friend, reading this, I'm reminded of an old Tom and Jerry cartoon with the echoing ending, Donn't youu beeelieeve iit! Expect Heston's pic on rally flyers near you soon. Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: Maybe now that Charlton Heston is dead, this will die, too. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com] On Behalf Of KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :( My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back of a room and spray the crowd with an auto matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing! And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill? * Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage Opponent says legislators will regret move By ANDREA JONES The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/04/08 Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night. An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long as it's okay with the company. RELATED LINKS: ... More about this year's Legislature Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two years, called it a good piece of legislation. We're gratified that the bill passed, he said. But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease property the right to forbid guns in their lots. Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly legislation. It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later. Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious position -- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that backed
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(
Maybe now that Charlton Heston is dead, this will die, too. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:57 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :( My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back of a room and spray the crowd with an auto matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing! And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill? * Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage Opponent says legislators will regret move By ANDREA JONES The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/04/08 Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night. An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long as it's okay with the company. RELATED LINKS: .. More about this year's Legislature Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two years, called it a good piece of legislation. We're gratified that the bill passed, he said. But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease property the right to forbid guns in their lots. Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly legislation. It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later. Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious position -- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it. When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version. The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns are also prohibited from drinking. The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(
Reece, my friend, reading this, I'm reminded of an old Tom and Jerry cartoon with the echoing ending, Donn't youu beeelieeve iit! Expect Heston's pic on rally flyers near you soon. Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe now that Charlton Heston is dead, this will die, too. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:57 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :( My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back of a room and spray the crowd with an auto matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing! And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill? * Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage Opponent says legislators will regret move By ANDREA JONES The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/04/08 Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night. An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long as it's okay with the company. RELATED LINKS: .. More about this year's Legislature Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two years, called it a good piece of legislation. We're gratified that the bill passed, he said. But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease property the right to forbid guns in their lots. Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly legislation. It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later. Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious position -- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it. When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version. The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns are also prohibited from drinking. The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request. [Non-text portions
RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(
hilarious! -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reece, my friend, reading this, I'm reminded of an old Tom and Jerry cartoon with the echoing ending, Donn't youu beeelieeve iit! Expect Heston's pic on rally flyers near you soon. Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe now that Charlton Heston is dead, this will die, too. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:57 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :( My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back of a room and spray the crowd with an auto matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing! And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill? * Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage Opponent says legislators will regret move By ANDREA JONES The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/04/08 Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night. An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long as it's okay with the company. RELATED LINKS: .. More about this year's Legislature Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two years, called it a good piece of legislation. We're gratified that the bill passed, he said. But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease property the right to forbid guns in their lots. Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly legislation. It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later. Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious position -- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it. When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version. The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns are also prohibited from drinking. The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(
Keith, our Jawja, our Jawja... What I'm waiting for now is the person who decides to start robbing banks with a concealed weapon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back of a room and spray the crowd with an auto matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing! And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill? * Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage Opponent says legislators will regret move By ANDREA JONES The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/04/08 Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night. An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long as it's okay with the company. RELATED LINKS: � More about this year's Legislature Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two years, called it a good piece of legislation. We're gratified that the bill passed, he said. But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease property the right to forbid guns in their lots. Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly legislation. It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later. Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious position �- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it. When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version. The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns are also prohibited from drinking. The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(
thank you! That's my point. And exactly how many times a day in this entire country do we have mass killings or hostage situations where everyday citizens will be needed to brandish their own weapons? I'm not against responsible gun ownership, but this is ridiculous. -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith, our Jawja, our Jawja... What I'm waiting for now is the person who decides to start robbing banks with a concealed weapon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back of a room and spray the crowd with an auto matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing! And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill? * Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage Opponent says legislators will regret move By ANDREA JONES The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/04/08 Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night. An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long as it's okay with the company. RELATED LINKS: � More about this year's Legislature Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two years, called it a good piece of legislation. We're gratified that the bill passed, he said. But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease property the right to forbid guns in their lots. Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly legislation. It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later. Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious position �- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it. When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version. The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns are also prohibited from drinking. The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. [Non-text
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(
Absolutely. Unlike a great many people, I know how to handle weapons, and I'm terrified of the things. Imagine hordes of Dirty- Harry-wannabes, all packing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thank you! That's my point. And exactly how many times a day in this entire country do we have mass killings or hostage situations where everyday citizens will be needed to brandish their own weapons? I'm not against responsible gun ownership, but this is ridiculous. -- Original message -- From: Martin Keith, our Jawja, our Jawja... What I'm waiting for now is the person who decides to start robbing banks with a concealed weapon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back of a room and spray the crowd with an auto matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing! And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill? * Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage Opponent says legislators will regret move By ANDREA JONES The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/04/08 Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night. An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long as it's okay with the company. RELATED LINKS: � More about this year's Legislature Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two years, called it a good piece of legislation. We're gratified that the bill passed, he said. But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease property the right to forbid guns in their lots. Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly legislation. It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later. Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious position �- locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it. When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version. The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns are also prohibited from drinking. The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man
[scifinoir2] OT: Georgia Legislature Expands Scope of Concealed Weapons Law :(
My Lord, everytime I'm encouraged at the progress made here in the South, some rubes come up with ways to remind me they're gonna go kicking and screaming into--the 19th Century! How the hell having guns carried in *more* places is going to make us safer is beyond me. If some nut or criminal starts shooting on a bus or train, I'd much rather have to face only having to duck in *one* direction, rather than face the possibility of being hit by stray bullets from half a dozen guns around me! And who the heck wants to know guns are being stored in parked cars in a business' parking lot, just rife for an enterprising thief to take a break to the window and get a free piece??? Everytime some pyscho shoots up a college dorm or a church, some people here say See, if people were allowed to carry concealed weapons at school or at church, those guys would have been killed. Of course, that assumes that perp isn't going to simply walk into the back of a room and spray the crowd with an auto matic weapon... it assumes someone would have time to draw a weapon, aim it, and fire--whilel being shot at from behind with said weapon It assumes the good armed citizens can shoot with any *accuracy* (still worried about getting hit with a stray bullet from Friendly fire) especially when caught off guard and trying to draw a bead under such duress. And i'd hate to think the dude tosses down beers in the booth next to me at Bennigan's is packing! And what's the push to speed up the process to buy a gun? Why should it take me longer to get a driver's license in order to secure transportation than it would for me to buy a device meant only to maim or kill? * Guns allowed in more public places with bill's passage Opponent says legislators will regret move By ANDREA JONES The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/04/08 Georgians with weapons permits will be able to carry guns in far more places under a bill that passed both chambers Friday night. An amended version of House Bill 89 allows holders of concealed weapons permits to carry guns into restaurants, state parks, and on MARTA trains and other public transportation. The legislation, which gun-rights proponents hailed as a major victory, also allows employees to leave weapons in parking lots as long as it's okay with the company. RELATED LINKS: More about this year's Legislature Andrew Arulanandam, the spokesman for the National Rifle Association, which has been pushing hard for less restrictive gun laws in Georgia for more than two years, called it a good piece of legislation. We're gratified that the bill passed, he said. But business interests said they were pleased that one key provision of the bill, to permit employees to keep guns in cars parked on company lots, was watered down greatly. The bill gives property owners and those who lease property the right to forbid guns in their lots. Still, Alice Johnson, of Georgians for Gun Safety, called the bill deadly legislation. It's the most sweeping change in Georgia's history. It's awful, she said. I think some of the folks who voted for it are going to regret it later. Earlier this session, the Republican-backed Senate gutted the bill, restricting the guns-in-parking lot provisions. Senators found themselves in a precarious position - locked between the powerful National Rifle Association that backed the legislation and business leaders who vehemently opposed it. When it went back to the House, lawmakers amended the bill, expanding it to allow some Georgians to carry guns into churches, sporting events, state parks and public gatherings. Those provisions were stripped out in the final version. The bill allows permit holders to carry guns into restaurants as long as more then half the profits of the establishment come from food. Those carrying guns are also prohibited from drinking. The bill also speeds up the process for the renewal of gun permits, requiring probate court judges to respond within two business days following a request. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
