Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: NEWS: Vast Condom Horror in Pacific

2005-06-02 Thread M C Jennings
Yeah.  I did some browsing, too.  Even the site where the story appeared is
very wierd...Nahhh...my comment was tongue-in-cheek...  LOLLOL!

Reece
 
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: 06/02/05 10:18:39
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: NEWS: Vast Condom Horror in Pacific
 
After browsing the www.unknowncountry.com site, this story sounds 
like satire or an urban legend. I doubt it is true. The clue as to 
why this is untrue: "... in places so tightly compressed that a 
small plane could be landed on it." Like, how did the author 
actually determine this? And who's terrirotiral waters is this stuff 
drifting in or towards?

Come on, folks! Are y'all that gullible?

George
Captain
THe USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I have to stop laughing in order to make a 
comment...
> 
> M C Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:H...I don't think enough 
men USE condoms to make such a huge 'reef'.
> 
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 06/01/05 14:25:56
> To: Christopher deMorsella; scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scifinoir2] FW: NEWS: Vast Condom Horror in Pacific
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: GIRLFRIEND [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Apryl N. Paris
> 
> http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4636
> 
> A huge floating reef made up of millions of disposed condoms has 
been discovered in the mid Pacific. The condom mass is two miles 
long, up to sixty feet deep, and in places so tightly compressed 
that a small plane could be landed on it.
>
> The mass was discovered by the Australian Oceanographic Laboratory 
Outpost on Macquarie Island in the South Pacific. Scientists there 
explained that the accumulation, which consists almost exclusively 
of condoms, is explained by a principle of physics called "like 
aggregation." Like aggregation is caused by the massing of similar 
objects due to ocean currents and winds, the response of the objects 
to the earth's magnetic field, and other factors.
> 
> The tendency of dust to clump and mass in a house or under a bed is
> explained by the same principle.
> 
> The Australian scientists are mapping the reef by satellite 
because it is a serious marine hazard. The world disposes of an 
estimated 300 million condoms a year.
> 
> Art credit: http://www.freeimages.co.uk
> 
> This could be an environmental catastrophe.
> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: FW: NEWS: Vast Condom Horror in Pacific

2005-06-02 Thread KeithBJohnson
It's probably based on the true story of how thousands upon thousands of 
fishing nets menace the world's sealife. NPR did a story on that two days ago. 
Fishing nets are often lost or discarded then drift all over the ocean posing a 
threat. Some of the nets are hundreds of square metres, intact, and actually 
still catching fish, which of course are then screwed. There's a section of 
ocean near Hawaii where the currents bring lots of this flotsam into a 
conglomeration of junk. Another problem is that the nets are sometimes pulled 
over coral reefs by the currents, damaging the reefs immeasurably.  Back in the 
day when the nets were made of hemp or other biodegradeable material this 
wasn't an issue. Now nets are made of things like nylon that last forever. It 
sounds weird until you consider the untold thousands of fishing boats that must 
ply the world's seas, and then the potential damage is sobering. 
At any rate, this condom thing put me in mind of that net story when I first 
heard it.

-- Original message -- 
After browsing the www.unknowncountry.com site, this story sounds 
like satire or an urban legend. I doubt it is true. The clue as to 
why this is untrue: "... in places so tightly compressed that a 
small plane could be landed on it." Like, how did the author 
actually determine this? And who's terrirotiral waters is this stuff 
drifting in or towards?

Come on, folks! Are y'all that gullible?

George
Captain
THe USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I have to stop laughing in order to make a 
comment...
> 
> M C Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:H...I don't think enough 
men USE condoms to make such a huge 'reef'.
> 
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 06/01/05 14:25:56
> To: Christopher deMorsella; scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scifinoir2] FW: NEWS: Vast Condom Horror in Pacific
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: GIRLFRIEND [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Apryl N. Paris
> 
> http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4636
> 
> A huge floating reef made up of millions of disposed condoms has 
been discovered in the mid Pacific. The condom mass is two miles 
long, up to sixty feet deep, and in places so tightly compressed 
that a small plane could be landed on it.
>
> The mass was discovered by the Australian Oceanographic Laboratory 
Outpost on Macquarie Island in the South Pacific. Scientists there 
explained that the accumulation, which consists almost exclusively 
of condoms, is explained by a principle of physics called "like 
aggregation." Like aggregation is caused by the massing of similar 
objects due to ocean currents and winds, the response of the objects 
to the earth's magnetic field, and other factors.
> 
> The tendency of dust to clump and mass in a house or under a bed is
> explained by the same principle.
> 
> The Australian scientists are mapping the reef by satellite 
because it is a serious marine hazard. The world disposes of an 
estimated 300 million condoms a year.
> 
> Art credit: http://www.freeimages.co.uk
> 
> This could be an environmental catastrophe.
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: FW: NEWS: Vast Condom Horror in Pacific

2005-06-02 Thread g123curious
After browsing the www.unknowncountry.com site, this story sounds 
like satire or an urban legend. I doubt it is true. The clue as to 
why this is untrue: "... in places so tightly compressed that a 
small plane could be landed on it." Like, how did the author 
actually determine this? And who's terrirotiral waters is this stuff 
drifting in or towards?

Come on, folks! Are y'all that gullible?

George
Captain
THe USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston)

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I have to stop laughing in order to make a 
comment...
> 
> M C Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:H...I don't think enough 
men USE condoms to make such a huge 'reef'.
> 
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Date: 06/01/05 14:25:56
> To: Christopher deMorsella; scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [scifinoir2] FW: NEWS: Vast Condom Horror in Pacific
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: GIRLFRIEND [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Apryl N. Paris
> 
> http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4636
> 
> A huge floating reef made up of millions of disposed condoms has 
been discovered in the mid Pacific. The condom mass is two miles 
long, up to sixty feet deep, and in places so tightly compressed 
that a small plane could be landed on it.
>
> The mass was discovered by the Australian Oceanographic Laboratory 
Outpost on Macquarie Island in the South Pacific. Scientists there 
explained that the accumulation, which consists almost exclusively 
of condoms, is explained by a principle of physics called "like 
aggregation." Like aggregation is caused by the massing of similar 
objects due to ocean currents and winds, the response of the objects 
to the earth's magnetic field, and other factors.
> 
> The tendency of dust to clump and mass in a house or under a bed is
> explained by the same principle.
> 
> The Australian scientists are mapping the reef by satellite 
because it is a serious marine hazard. The world disposes of an 
estimated 300 million condoms a year.
> 
> Art credit: http://www.freeimages.co.uk
> 
> This could be an environmental catastrophe.
> 
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[scifinoir2] Re: FW: NEWS: Vast Condom Horror in Pacific

2005-06-01 Thread Kelly Wright
On the other hand, here in Milwaukee, some citizen discovered that 
condoms were being deposited into Lake Michigan unharmed after 
traveling through the waste treatment center.  The waste treatment 
center installed screens to capture the wayward condoms but some 
still made it through unharmed.  So they waste treatment center hired 
a man at a cost of fifty-two dollars an hour to spy and scoup up the 
offending condoms (or $18 per condom scooped).

~rave!

http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/may05/325680.asp

Condom control — at a price 
MMSD's 'floatables' cost is more than $1.8 million
By STEVE SCHULTZE and MARIE ROHDE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted: May 12, 2005
Case closed on the great condom cleanup caper.

Sort of.

Condom Control 
By the Numbers 
$1.5 million 
The cost of an elaborate system of nets to catch condoms that get 
through sewage treatment

$120,000 

Related costs, including replacement nets

$184,400 

What contract workers were paid during 424 days to scoop condoms out 
of Jones Island chlorine tanks. 
 
After spending more than $1.8 million for a temporary system to catch 
stray condoms slipping through the Jones Island sewage treatment 
plant - including having a full-time worker at $52.15 an hour 
manually skimming errant condoms from the final wastewater treatment 
tanks - the sewerage district is declaring its effluent condom-free. 

Pretty much, anyway.

"We are fairly confident we are capturing a majority" of the spent 
condoms before they can reach the Milwaukee Harbor and Lake Michigan, 
said Bill Graffin, spokesman for the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewerage 
District. 

"If we need to take more steps, we don't know what they would be," he 
said.

Condoms are notoriously difficult to capture completely at sewage 
treatment plants, MMSD officials said. However, Peter Swenson, a 
regional official with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, said 
the problem is rare.

The quest for better condom control dates back to April 29, 2003, 
when a local fisherman reported seeing what he called a "slick" of 
thousands of condoms floating in the lake following a heavy 
rainstorm. MMSD officials initially discounted the story, suggesting 
the shiny objects the fisherman reported must have been alewives - a 
small fish. 

But with a public outcry and a nudge from Attorney General Peg 
Lautenschlager, the district sprang into action. 

First, a single laborer armed with a swimming pool skimmer was posted 
at the chlorine tanks at Jones Island to nab condoms that survived 
earlier phases of screening at the plant. To date, the effort has 
yielded 14,020 stubborn condoms scooped from the final sewage 
treatment soup over 551 days. Average daily yield: 25.4 condoms, 
according to the district.

$18.09 a condom
The district couldn't provide full costs of the effort. But the final 
424 days of condom scooping cost $184,400 for the 10,196condoms 
collected during that period, which ended Feb. 6. That comes to a per-
condom collection cost of $18.09.

The work was done weekdays by union laborers under a subcontract with 
MMSD's private operator, United Water Services. Those workers were 
paid $23.19 an hour. However, United Water charged MMSD $52.15 an 
hour, a figure that included costs of fringe benefits and a 15% 
markup for profit and administrative fees. 

On weekends, United Water employees scooped condoms at the plant. 
They were paid overtime - $51.06 an hour for Saturdays and $68.06 
Sundays.

The subcontract was done because United Water didn't have enough 
workers on staff to do it, said John Cheslik, United Water's manager 
of Milwaukee operations. Cheslik and MMSD officials said that 
although the costs seem high, they reflect the requirement in MMSD's 
contract with United Water that locally prevailing wages are paid for 
sewerage district work.

State Rep. Pedro Colón, a member of the commission that oversees 
MMSD, said a cheaper alternative for the job should have been used.

"It's just a lot of money," said Colón, a Milwaukee Democrat. "This 
is in the category of unacceptable."

The manual scooping was supplemented during summer months of 2003 and 
2004, when MMSD also had the crew of the Pelagos, the district's 43-
foot research boat, fishing for condoms that made it through the 
plant and into the harbor. That yielded another 1,722 condoms in 220 
days of intermittent harbor patrol. Cost figures weren't available 
for that endeavor.

Nets also used
An elaborate fabricated system of condom-catching nets - which 
themselves resemble giant condoms - also was approved and installed 
early last year at Jones Island at a cost of $1.5 million. Other 
costs, including replacement nets, have added another $120,000 to the 
project.

The net system installed in the plant was supposed to end the manual 
condom catching effort, but the system blew out when it got its first 
big test after last May's rainstorms. The device, euphemistically 
dubbed the "floatables removal project" by MMSD, was re