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The sad thing is comics as a whole are still great. Stuff like The Walking Dead, The Exterminators, DMZ, Fables, Fear Agent, Godland and lots of others are still great reads. Unfortunately the quality of the superhero comics at the big two are suffering and the rest of the industry takes the hit as well. Don't get me wrong there is still good stuff being done at the Marvel and DC but it gets crushed under the rest of the dreck. I loved the Annilation miniseries and the spinoff books but the massively inferior Civil War and World War Hulk got all the press. I think I found a good time to jump ship. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Jeff, I won't go that far. Though a lot of the stuff out there falls short of palatability, there are good reads to be had. My last time through my comic store, I picked up the first two issues of a Vertigo comic called Air, a nice mixture of surrealism and modern- day air piracy. My next time through has me picking up #s 3-6, and hoping for more. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:19:13 -0500 From : Jeff Carter mbsj...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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I loved Annihilation as well, B. When both it and Civil War came out, I read them both. After three issues of each, I did something I've never done before. I got rid of the Civil War books. Fortunately for my wallet, my comic store was willing to take them back for store credit, which I used for the next three Annihilation books. Still, I'm not jumping ship yet. Too many good reads between the lines. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:45:43 - From : B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The sad thing is comics as a whole are still great. Stuff like The Walking Dead, The Exterminators, DMZ, Fables, Fear Agent, Godland and lots of others are still great reads. Unfortunately the quality of the superhero comics at the big two are suffering and the rest of the industry takes the hit as well. Don't get me wrong there is still good stuff being done at the Marvel and DC but it gets crushed under the rest of the dreck. I loved the Annilation miniseries and the spinoff books but the massively inferior Civil War and World War Hulk got all the press. I think I found a good time to jump ship. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I won't go that far. Though a lot of the stuff out there falls short of palatability, there are good reads to be had. My last time through my comic store, I picked up the first two issues of a Vertigo comic called Air, a nice mixture of surrealism and modern- day air piracy. My next time through has me picking up #s 3-6, and hoping for more. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:19:13 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Money was the main reason I quit buying monthlies but lack of time was another major factor. I still pick up the trades for The Walking Dead but the cliffhanger endings lose some of their punch when you can flip the page and see what comes next. I'm thinking of starting a small monthly list of no more than 10 titles to support the books that I really enjoyed. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: I loved Annihilation as well, B. When both it and Civil War came out, I read them both. After three issues of each, I did something I've never done before. I got rid of the Civil War books. Fortunately for my wallet, my comic store was willing to take them back for store credit, which I used for the next three Annihilation books. Still, I'm not jumping ship yet. Too many good reads between the lines. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:45:43 - From : B. Smith daikaij...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The sad thing is comics as a whole are still great. Stuff like The Walking Dead, The Exterminators, DMZ, Fables, Fear Agent, Godland and lots of others are still great reads. Unfortunately the quality of the superhero comics at the big two are suffering and the rest of the industry takes the hit as well. Don't get me wrong there is still good stuff being done at the Marvel and DC but it gets crushed under the rest of the dreck. I loved the Annilation miniseries and the spinoff books but the massively inferior Civil War and World War Hulk got all the press. I think I found a good time to jump ship. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I won't go that far. Though a lot of the stuff out there falls short of palatability, there are good reads to be had. My last time through my comic store, I picked up the first two issues of a Vertigo comic called Air, a nice mixture of surrealism and modern- day air piracy. My next time through has me picking up #s 3-6, and hoping for more. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:19:13 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http
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There are good books outside of the big two that do come out on time. Fables, Invincible, Boys, Project Superpowers, 100 Bullets these are all good books that I still enjoy, but it is frustrating to cough up 30+ dollars for something that doesnt even come out on time and when it does is practically unreadable. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: I loved Annihilation as well, B. When both it and Civil War came out, I read them both. After three issues of each, I did something I've never done before. I got rid of the Civil War books. Fortunately for my wallet, my comic store was willing to take them back for store credit, which I used for the next three Annihilation books. Still, I'm not jumping ship yet. Too many good reads between the lines. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:45:43 - From : B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The sad thing is comics as a whole are still great. Stuff like The Walking Dead, The Exterminators, DMZ, Fables, Fear Agent, Godland and lots of others are still great reads. Unfortunately the quality of the superhero comics at the big two are suffering and the rest of the industry takes the hit as well. Don't get me wrong there is still good stuff being done at the Marvel and DC but it gets crushed under the rest of the dreck. I loved the Annilation miniseries and the spinoff books but the massively inferior Civil War and World War Hulk got all the press. I think I found a good time to jump ship. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I won't go that far. Though a lot of the stuff out there falls short of palatability, there are good reads to be had. My last time through my comic store, I picked up the first two issues of a Vertigo comic called Air, a nice mixture of surrealism and modern- day air piracy. My next time through has me picking up #s 3-6, and hoping for more. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:19:13 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http
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Jeff, I don't like to make assumptions, so can I instead venture an uneducated guess that you're at the mercy of one of Those Evil Comics Vendors Who Force You To Buy Unseen? My comics store (Oxford, 2455 Piedmont Road, Atlanta, GA) keeps most of their books open for reading, bagging only after six months. My last store had the old open it and you've bought it policy, which I can't stand. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:01:24 -0500 From : Jeff Carter mbsj...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com There are good books outside of the big two that do come out on time. Fables, Invincible, Boys, Project Superpowers, 100 Bullets these are all good books that I still enjoy, but it is frustrating to cough up 30+ dollars for something that doesnt even come out on time and when it does is practically unreadable. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: I loved Annihilation as well, B. When both it and Civil War came out, I read them both. After three issues of each, I did something I've never done before. I got rid of the Civil War books. Fortunately for my wallet, my comic store was willing to take them back for store credit, which I used for the next three Annihilation books. Still, I'm not jumping ship yet. Too many good reads between the lines. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:45:43 - From : B. Smith To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The sad thing is comics as a whole are still great. Stuff like The Walking Dead, The Exterminators, DMZ, Fables, Fear Agent, Godland and lots of others are still great reads. Unfortunately the quality of the superhero comics at the big two are suffering and the rest of the industry takes the hit as well. Don't get me wrong there is still good stuff being done at the Marvel and DC but it gets crushed under the rest of the dreck. I loved the Annilation miniseries and the spinoff books but the massively inferior Civil War and World War Hulk got all the press. I think I found a good time to jump ship. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I won't go that far. Though a lot of the stuff out there falls short of palatability, there are good reads to be had. My last time through my comic store, I picked up the first two issues of a Vertigo comic called Air, a nice mixture of surrealism and modern- day air piracy. My next time through has me picking up #s 3-6, and hoping for more. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:19:13 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out
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Mine is the same for books that are not on the pull list. Because so many people have stopped buying my guy orders most books based only on the pull list. My problem is my optimism. I keep hoping that it will get better so I buy. For many years my other problem was in breaking up my collection, and telling myself I would stop once I reached issue 500 or soemthing like that. Now I pick up things on word of mouth. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Jeff, I don't like to make assumptions, so can I instead venture an uneducated guess that you're at the mercy of one of Those Evil Comics Vendors Who Force You To Buy Unseen? My comics store (Oxford, 2455 Piedmont Road, Atlanta, GA) keeps most of their books open for reading, bagging only after six months. My last store had the old open it and you've bought it policy, which I can't stand. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:01:24 -0500 From : Jeff Carter mbsj...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com There are good books outside of the big two that do come out on time. Fables, Invincible, Boys, Project Superpowers, 100 Bullets these are all good books that I still enjoy, but it is frustrating to cough up 30+ dollars for something that doesnt even come out on time and when it does is practically unreadable. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: I loved Annihilation as well, B. When both it and Civil War came out, I read them both. After three issues of each, I did something I've never done before. I got rid of the Civil War books. Fortunately for my wallet, my comic store was willing to take them back for store credit, which I used for the next three Annihilation books. Still, I'm not jumping ship yet. Too many good reads between the lines. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:45:43 - From : B. Smith To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com The sad thing is comics as a whole are still great. Stuff like The Walking Dead, The Exterminators, DMZ, Fables, Fear Agent, Godland and lots of others are still great reads. Unfortunately the quality of the superhero comics at the big two are suffering and the rest of the industry takes the hit as well. Don't get me wrong there is still good stuff being done at the Marvel and DC but it gets crushed under the rest of the dreck. I loved the Annilation miniseries and the spinoff books but the massively inferior Civil War and World War Hulk got all the press. I think I found a good time to jump ship. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I won't go that far. Though a lot of the stuff out there falls short of palatability, there are good reads to be had. My last time through my comic store, I picked up the first two issues of a Vertigo comic called Air, a nice mixture of surrealism and modern- day air piracy. My next time through has me picking up #s 3-6, and hoping for more. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:19:13 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I agree with you about civil war as well. The big two have given complete control to two or three writers, and they are able to get away with anything they want. Stories are bland and repetitive, each company puts out a big stunt every three months (one more day, death of batman), issues are consistently late, and now they are raising the prices. After 27 years of reading and collecting comics I do believe that this is my time to bow out. Jeff On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: Jeff, I guess that that's a matter of interpretation. IMO, I could take your statement, substitute Civil War for Final Crisis, and it would be a valid assessment. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Is DC Comics dying? Date : Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:37:03 -0500 From : Jeff Carter To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Did anyone read Final Crisis, this is the real reason DC is dying. They keep putting all their eggs in one writers basket (Morrison) who takes a dump throws it on the wall calls it art, and if anyone complains tells them that it's the editors fault. Jeff On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending
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I remember when DC was the colossus and Marvel was the scrappy underdog. Back in those halcyon days I hated everything DC and secretly plotted their demise. Forty years later, to hear DC Comics is dying makes me feel...giddy! Later, the Brain and I are going to do the same thing we do every night try to take over the world! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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OK Pinky! :) -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:00 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Is DC Comics dying? I remember when DC was the colossus and Marvel was the scrappy underdog. Back in those halcyon days I hated everything DC and secretly plotted their demise. Forty years later, to hear DC Comics is dying makes me feel...giddy! Later, the Brain and I are going to do the same thing we do every night - try to take over the world! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Grant Morrison seems to think so. They haven't posted the article from Wizard that I read this afternoon on the web site, so it falls to me to quote it. When asked about his work on Final Crisis (the ending in particular, and what he hopes fans will take away from the conclusion of the story), he says, I hope they''ll take away a sense of how much they love the DC universe. Because there are the two camps... and Marvel is a colossus right now. To me, the DC Universe dying is almost how it felt to be at DC. There was just a sense that Marvel was just getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I don't agree with that at all. IMO, Marvel has al but sold out its readers, with cheap and gimmicky plotlines that aren't likely to last more than two years before being retconned right out of existence, leaving nothing short of a continuity mess. DC, on the other hand, is bringing about Final Crisis, almost to the letter as it was destined to happen thirty-odd years ago. I put my brain to the task of remembering exactly what books I'd picked up in the last six months, and they've been 95% DC, only Fantastic Four as a Marvel representative. But that's just me. Thrash on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links
