[scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-02 Thread Kelwyn
I am now two episodes behind (it IS NBA playoff season, after all - Go Bucks!) 
but I adored the raggedy Doctor subtext of the first episode.  The last shot 
of all the Doctor dolls the once and future companion had fashioned over the 
years was a lovely nod to Who fans (one of the dolls bore a striking 
resemblance to Tom Baker, the Doctor of my sane and sober youth).

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote:

 I liked the Queen also but I'm just not excited by any of these episodes.
 Season's 1-4 where really good and now it's just a bit dull. I'm going back
 to watch The 5 Doctors again and waiting for season 6.
 
 On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  What bothered you?
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mike Street streetfor...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:54:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!
 
 
 
  I've decided to sit this season out. Until the writing gets better or they
  get  new Dr. I'm out of the Tartus. The first two episodes where totally
  horrible.
 
  On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Adrianne Brennan 
  adrianne.bren...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's
  got the wrong team writing for him.
 
  On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
 
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  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that good. I
  don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked Eccleston
  and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my yet. 
  I
  also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down.
 
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson 
  keithbjohn...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new
  Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?!   I
  listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew there 
  had
  already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they really
  like the new Doctor.  The fear was that he was too young and would be too
  boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this new
  Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or Eccleston's
  portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and reminds 
  them
  of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at least 
  one
  of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly 
  serious?
  (Martin would know).
  Should be interesting...
 
 
  *
 
  http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp
 
  Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
 
  Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
  SYNOPSIS
 
  Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the
  Doctor Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The
  Ultimate Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside the
  world's biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: 
  The
  Ultimate Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA,
  followed by the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c.
 
 
  Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour
 
  Written by: Steven Moffat
  Directed by: Adam Smith
  Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
  SYNOPSIS
 
  The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes
  before he can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic
  screwdriver destroyed, the new Doctor has just twenty minutes to save the
  whole world - and only Amy Pond to help him.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-02 Thread Adrianne Brennan
Hilariously they kept claiming this would be a darker Who and a dark
fairytale.

I'm not feeling it.

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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 I just realized Queen Elizabeth X was played by Academy Award nominated
 Sophie Okonedo of Hotel Rawanda. I thought she brought a lot of presence
 to a fairly small role. She's quite stunning. I'm still amazed at how a
 country where blacks don't have the clout or opportunities in acting they do
 here still seems to give them good roles so often.

 As for the balancing act, you're right. They seem to have changed the tone
 slightly. Everything from Smith to the writing to even the camera work is in
 ways a bit more lighthearted than Tennant's --and especially
 Eccleston's--tenures were. The pacing is faster, giving the show a breezy
 feeling. There are a lot more overtly comedic tones to the dialogue.
 Definitely less dark now. Maybe the producers felt it was time for a change?



 - Original Message -
 From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:58:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC
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 Yea, I loved the queen too. I knew someone would love her. :)

 I think that they are trying to ride a fine line between mature writing /
 kid appeal / and old school fans.

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Keith Johnson 
 keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 I just saw the episode The Beast Below, in which the Starship UK is
 taking refugees from Earth across space. I rather enjoyed it. It had some
 typical corny/scary Dr. Who creatures: robotic sentries that looked like wax
 statues.
 And I liked that way they showed again how the  Doctor can turn on a dime
 from goofy and humorous to grimly serious, even scary--alien. When he
 realized the secret of the ship, and what his Companion did in an attempt to
 save him from a difficult choice, he became cold and determined to send her
 home. And when he yelled at the perpetrators of the horror, saying There is
 nothing any human can say to me today!, we're reminded that  he's not a
 quixotic human, but a Timelord capable of grand and terrible things.

 And I loved the concept of the pistol-packing Sister who was Queen
 Elizabeth X.  The actress playing her was quite fetching, almost like Gina
 Torres younger sister or something. I'd love to see more of her.

 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 3:28:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC
 America!



 I'm enjoying the low-tech way they're going about creating the monsters,
 more like old-school DW. It's what you CAN'T see that scares you the most.

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I was prepared to hate the new Doctor - but I didn't. I like the way they
 introduced him and his new companion. I like the way he didn't know how to
 properly use his stuff at first.

 I also like the idea (an oldie but a goodie) about bad things living in
 that blind spot that you can only see out of the corner of your eye.

 I got the opportunity to talk about the episode with a 57 year-old friend
 of mine (who is not an SF guy) when he told me he covered his wife's full
 length mirror with a blanket because he didn't like being freaked out every
 time he caught a glimpse of something in the mirror.

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com,
 Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... wrote:
 
  That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's
 got
  the wrong team writing for him.
 
  On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
 
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  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that
 good. I
   don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked
 Eccleston
   and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my
 yet. I
   also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down

[scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-02 Thread Kelwyn
It occured to me that there is a Benjamin Button thing going on with the good 
Doctor.  Since 2005 he has been played by Christopher Eccleston (born in 1964), 
David Tennant (born in 1971) and Matt Smith (born in 1982).  At this rate the 
next Doctor will be younger than my son (born in 1988).

~rave?

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 Feels like after Torchwood's mini-series this season of Dr.Who feels tepid
 at best. I'm not liking the doctor at all. He's a little too quick on the
 trigger to be violent which isn't something that a 900 year old would do.
 Maybe he needs to switch to decaf? :)
 
 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  I liked the Queen also but I'm just not excited by any of these episodes.
  Season's 1-4 where really good and now it's just a bit dull. I'm going back
  to watch The 5 Doctors again and waiting for season 6.
 
  On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  What bothered you?
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mike Street streetfor...@...
  To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:54:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
  Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!
 
 
 
  I've decided to sit this season out. Until the writing gets better or they
  get  new Dr. I'm out of the Tartus. The first two episodes where totally
  horrible.
 
  On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Adrianne Brennan 
  adrianne.bren...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's
  got the wrong team writing for him.
 
  On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
 
  ~ Where love and magic meet ~
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com
  Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
  Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
  The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
 
 
  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@...wrote:
 
 
 
  I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that good.
  I don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked 
  Eccleston
  and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my 
  yet. I
  also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down.
 
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson 
  keithbjohn...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new
  Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?!   
  I
  listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew 
  there had
  already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they 
  really
  like the new Doctor.  The fear was that he was too young and would be 
  too
  boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this new
  Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or Eccleston's
  portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and reminds 
  them
  of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at 
  least one
  of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly 
  serious?
  (Martin would know).
  Should be interesting...
 
 
  *
 
  http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp
 
  Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
 
  Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
  SYNOPSIS
 
  Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the
  Doctor Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The
  Ultimate Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside the
  world's biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: 
  The
  Ultimate Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA,
  followed by the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c.
 
 
  Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour
 
  Written by: Steven Moffat
  Directed by: Adam Smith
  Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
  SYNOPSIS
 
  The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes
  before he can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic
  screwdriver destroyed, the new Doctor has just twenty minutes to save 
  the
  whole world - and only Amy Pond to help him.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-02 Thread Adrianne Brennan
Peter Davison was 29 when he took on the role, so I think it's just
coincidence. :)

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On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It occured to me that there is a Benjamin Button thing going on with the
 good Doctor.  Since 2005 he has been played by Christopher Eccleston (born
 in 1964), David Tennant (born in 1971) and Matt Smith (born in 1982).  At
 this rate the next Doctor will be younger than my son (born in 1988).

 ~rave?

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
  Feels like after Torchwood's mini-series this season of Dr.Who feels
 tepid
  at best. I'm not liking the doctor at all. He's a little too quick on the
  trigger to be violent which isn't something that a 900 year old would do.
  Maybe he needs to switch to decaf? :)
 
  On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   I liked the Queen also but I'm just not excited by any of these
 episodes.
   Season's 1-4 where really good and now it's just a bit dull. I'm going
 back
   to watch The 5 Doctors again and waiting for season 6.
  
   On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   What bothered you?
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Mike Street streetfor...@...
   To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:54:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
   Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC
 America!
  
  
  
   I've decided to sit this season out. Until the writing gets better or
 they
   get  new Dr. I'm out of the Tartus. The first two episodes where
 totally
   horrible.
  
   On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Adrianne Brennan 
   adrianne.bren...@... wrote:
  
  
  
   That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but
 he's
   got the wrong team writing for him.
  
   On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
  
   ~ Where love and magic meet ~
   http://www.adriannebrennan.com
   Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
   Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
   The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
   http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
  
  
   On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetforce1@
 ...wrote:
  
  
  
   I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that
 good.
   I don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked
 Eccleston
   and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my
 yet. I
   also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down.
  
   On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson 
   keithbjohn...@... wrote:
  
  
  
   Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the
 new
   Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow
 night?!   I
   listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew
 there had
   already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they
 really
   like the new Doctor.  The fear was that he was too young and would
 be too
   boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that
 this new
   Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or
 Eccleston's
   portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and
 reminds them
   of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at
 least one
   of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly
 serious?
   (Martin would know).
   Should be interesting...
  
  
  
 *
  
   http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp
  
   Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
  
   Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
   SYNOPSIS
  
   Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the
   Doctor Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor
 Who: The
   Ultimate Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside
 the
   world's biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor
 Who: The
   Ultimate Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC
 AMERICA,
   followed by the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c.
  
  
   Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour
  
   Written by: Steven Moffat
   Directed by: Adam Smith
   Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
   SYNOPSIS
  
   The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes
   before he can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic

[scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-02 Thread Kelwyn
Sure, but Tom Baker, who preceded Davison was 40 when he became the Doctor and 
Colin Baker, who replaced him, was 41.  Methinks this makes Davison a 
statistical anomaly.  

In fact, the eleven Doctors to date average 41 years in age.  The oldest doctor 
was the first one, white-haired William Hartnell (55).
At 27, Smith is the youngest.  He and Davison are the only two Doctors under 35.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... 
wrote:

 Peter Davison was 29 when he took on the role, so I think it's just
 coincidence. :)
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com
 Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
 Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
 The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
 
 
 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@... wrote:
 
  It occured to me that there is a Benjamin Button thing going on with the
  good Doctor.  Since 2005 he has been played by Christopher Eccleston (born
  in 1964), David Tennant (born in 1971) and Matt Smith (born in 1982).  At
  this rate the next Doctor will be younger than my son (born in 1988).
 
  ~rave?
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote:
  
   Feels like after Torchwood's mini-series this season of Dr.Who feels
  tepid
   at best. I'm not liking the doctor at all. He's a little too quick on the
   trigger to be violent which isn't something that a 900 year old would do.
   Maybe he needs to switch to decaf? :)
  
   On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Mike Street streetforce1@ wrote:
  
   
   
I liked the Queen also but I'm just not excited by any of these
  episodes.
Season's 1-4 where really good and now it's just a bit dull. I'm going
  back
to watch The 5 Doctors again and waiting for season 6.
   
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@
  ...wrote:
   
   
   
What bothered you?
   
   
- Original Message -
From: Mike Street streetforce1@
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:54:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC
  America!
   
   
   
I've decided to sit this season out. Until the writing gets better or
  they
get  new Dr. I'm out of the Tartus. The first two episodes where
  totally
horrible.
   
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Adrianne Brennan 
adrianne.brennan@ wrote:
   
   
   
That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but
  he's
got the wrong team writing for him.
   
On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
   
~ Where love and magic meet ~
http://www.adriannebrennan.com
Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
   
   
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetforce1@
  ...wrote:
   
   
   
I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that
  good.
I don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked
  Eccleston
and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my
  yet. I
also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down.
   
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson 
KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
   
   
   
Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the
  new
Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow
  night?!   I
listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew
  there had
already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they
  really
like the new Doctor.  The fear was that he was too young and would
  be too
boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that
  this new
Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or
  Eccleston's
portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and
  reminds them
of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at
  least one
of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly
  serious?
(Martin would know).
Should be interesting...
   
   
   
  *
   
http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp
   
Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
   
Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
SYNOPSIS
   
Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the
Doctor Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-02 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah it's finding its legs, that's for sure. 
maybe this new Doctor is a bit schizophrenic? 

- Original Message - 
From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2010 8:49:31 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! 






Hilariously they kept claiming this would be a darker Who and a dark 
fairytale. 


I'm not feeling it. 

~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 



On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I just realized Queen Elizabeth X was played by Academy Award nominated Sophie 
Okonedo of Hotel Rawanda. I thought she brought a lot of presence to a fairly 
small role. She's quite stunning. I'm still amazed at how a country where 
blacks don't have the clout or opportunities in acting they do here still seems 
to give them good roles so often. 

As for the balancing act, you're right. They seem to have changed the tone 
slightly. Everything from Smith to the writing to even the camera work is in 
ways a bit more lighthearted than Tennant's --and especially 
Eccleston's--tenures were. The pacing is faster, giving the show a breezy 
feeling. There are a lot more overtly comedic tones to the dialogue. Definitely 
less dark now. Maybe the producers felt it was time for a change? 



- Original Message - 
From: Mr. Worf  hellomahog...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 11:58:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! 






Yea, I loved the queen too. I knew someone would love her. :) 

I think that they are trying to ride a fine line between mature writing / kid 
appeal / and old school fans. 


On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I just saw the episode The Beast Below, in which the Starship UK is taking 
refugees from Earth across space. I rather enjoyed it. It had some typical 
corny/scary Dr. Who creatures: robotic sentries that looked like wax statues. 
And I liked that way they showed again how the Doctor can turn on a dime from 
goofy and humorous to grimly serious, even scary--alien. When he realized the 
secret of the ship, and what his Companion did in an attempt to save him from a 
difficult choice, he became cold and determined to send her home. And when he 
yelled at the perpetrators of the horror, saying There is nothing any human 
can say to me today!, we're reminded that he's not a quixotic human, but a 
Timelord capable of grand and terrible things. 

And I loved the concept of the pistol-packing Sister who was Queen Elizabeth X. 
The actress playing her was quite fetching, almost like Gina Torres younger 
sister or something. I'd love to see more of her. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter  martinbaxt...@gmail.com  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 3:28:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! 






I'm enjoying the low-tech way they're going about creating the monsters, more 
like old-school DW. It's what you CAN'T see that scares you the most. 





On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  wrote: 








I was prepared to hate the new Doctor - but I didn't. I like the way they 
introduced him and his new companion. I like the way he didn't know how to 
properly use his stuff at first. 

I also like the idea (an oldie but a goodie) about bad things living in that 
blind spot that you can only see out of the corner of your eye. 

I got the opportunity to talk about the episode with a 57 year-old friend of 
mine (who is not an SF guy) when he told me he covered his wife's full length 
mirror with a blanket because he didn't like being freaked out every time he 
caught a glimpse of something in the mirror. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... 
wrote: 
 
 That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's got 
 the wrong team writing for him. 
 
 On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :( 
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
 Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
 Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
 The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 
 
 
 On Sat

[scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-01 Thread Kelwyn
I was prepared to hate the new Doctor - but I didn't.  I like the way they 
introduced him and his new companion.  I like the way he didn't know how to 
properly use his stuff at first.  

I also like the idea (an oldie but a goodie) about bad things living in that 
blind spot that you can only see out of the corner of your eye.

I got the opportunity to talk about the episode with a 57 year-old friend of 
mine (who is not an SF guy) when he told me he covered his wife's full length 
mirror with a blanket because he didn't like being freaked out every time he 
caught a glimpse of something in the mirror.

~rave!  

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... 
wrote:

 That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's got
 the wrong team writing for him.
 
 On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com
 Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
 Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
 The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
 
 
 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that good. I
  don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked Eccleston
  and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my yet. I
  also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down.
 
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
   wrote:
 
 
 
  Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new
  Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?!   I
  listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew there 
  had
  already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they really
  like the new Doctor.  The fear was that he was too young and would be too
  boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this new
  Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or Eccleston's
  portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and reminds 
  them
  of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at least 
  one
  of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly 
  serious?
  (Martin would know).
  Should be interesting...
 
 
  *
 
  http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp
 
  Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
 
  Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
  SYNOPSIS
 
  Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the Doctor
  Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The Ultimate
  Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside the world's
  biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: The 
  Ultimate
  Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA, followed by
  the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c.
 
 
  Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour
 
  Written by: Steven Moffat
  Directed by: Adam Smith
  Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
  SYNOPSIS
 
  The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes before
  he can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic screwdriver
  destroyed, the new Doctor has just twenty minutes to save the whole world -
  and only Amy Pond to help him.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-01 Thread Martin Baxter
I'm enjoying the low-tech way they're going about creating the monsters,
more like old-school DW. It's what you CAN'T see that scares you the most.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I was prepared to hate the new Doctor - but I didn't. I like the way they
 introduced him and his new companion. I like the way he didn't know how to
 properly use his stuff at first.

 I also like the idea (an oldie but a goodie) about bad things living in
 that blind spot that you can only see out of the corner of your eye.

 I got the opportunity to talk about the episode with a 57 year-old friend
 of mine (who is not an SF guy) when he told me he covered his wife's full
 length mirror with a blanket because he didn't like being freaked out every
 time he caught a glimpse of something in the mirror.

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Adrianne
 Brennan adrianne.bren...@... wrote:
 
  That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's
 got
  the wrong team writing for him.
 
  On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
 
  ~ Where love and magic meet ~
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com
  Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
  Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
  The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
 
 
  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that good.
 I
   don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked
 Eccleston
   and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my
 yet. I
   also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down.
  
   On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
wrote:
  
  
  
   Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new
   Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?!
 I
   listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew
 there had
   already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they
 really
   like the new Doctor. The fear was that he was too young and would be
 too
   boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this
 new
   Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or
 Eccleston's
   portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and
 reminds them
   of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at
 least one
   of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly
 serious?
   (Martin would know).
   Should be interesting...
  
  
  
 *
  
   http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp
  
   Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
  
   Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
   SYNOPSIS
  
   Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the
 Doctor
   Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The
 Ultimate
   Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside the world's
   biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: The
 Ultimate
   Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA,
 followed by
   the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c.
  
  
   Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour
  
   Written by: Steven Moffat
   Directed by: Adam Smith
   Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
   SYNOPSIS
  
   The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes
 before
   he can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic
 screwdriver
   destroyed, the new Doctor has just twenty minutes to save the whole
 world -
   and only Amy Pond to help him.
  
  
  
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-01 Thread Mr. Worf
That is kind of creepy. I'm always fascinated by ideas that come from
non-scifi fans.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was prepared to hate the new Doctor - but I didn't.  I like the way they
 introduced him and his new companion.  I like the way he didn't know how to
 properly use his stuff at first.

 I also like the idea (an oldie but a goodie) about bad things living in
 that blind spot that you can only see out of the corner of your eye.

 I got the opportunity to talk about the episode with a 57 year-old friend
 of mine (who is not an SF guy) when he told me he covered his wife's full
 length mirror with a blanket because he didn't like being freaked out every
 time he caught a glimpse of something in the mirror.

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@...
 wrote:
 
  That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's
 got
  the wrong team writing for him.
 
  On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
 
  ~ Where love and magic meet ~
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com
  Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
  Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
  The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
 
 
  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that good.
 I
   don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked
 Eccleston
   and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my
 yet. I
   also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down.
  
   On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
wrote:
  
  
  
   Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new
   Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?!
   I
   listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew
 there had
   already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they
 really
   like the new Doctor.  The fear was that he was too young and would be
 too
   boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this
 new
   Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or
 Eccleston's
   portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and
 reminds them
   of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at
 least one
   of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly
 serious?
   (Martin would know).
   Should be interesting...
  
  
  
 *
  
   http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp
  
   Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
  
   Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
   SYNOPSIS
  
   Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the
 Doctor
   Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The
 Ultimate
   Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside the world's
   biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: The
 Ultimate
   Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA,
 followed by
   the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c.
  
  
   Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour
  
   Written by: Steven Moffat
   Directed by: Adam Smith
   Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
   SYNOPSIS
  
   The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes
 before
   he can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic
 screwdriver
   destroyed, the new Doctor has just twenty minutes to save the whole
 world -
   and only Amy Pond to help him.
  
  
  
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-01 Thread Keith Johnson
I just saw the episode The Beast Below, in which the Starship UK is taking 
refugees from Earth across space. I rather enjoyed it. It had some typical 
corny/scary Dr. Who creatures: robotic sentries that looked like wax statues. 
And I liked that way they showed again how the Doctor can turn on a dime from 
goofy and humorous to grimly serious, even scary--alien. When he realized the 
secret of the ship, and what his Companion did in an attempt to save him from a 
difficult choice, he became cold and determined to send her home. And when he 
yelled at the perpetrators of the horror, saying There is nothing any human 
can say to me today!, we're reminded that he's not a quixotic human, but a 
Timelord capable of grand and terrible things. 

And I loved the concept of the pistol-packing Sister who was Queen Elizabeth X. 
The actress playing her was quite fetching, almost like Gina Torres younger 
sister or something. I'd love to see more of her. 

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com 
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 3:28:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! 






I'm enjoying the low-tech way they're going about creating the monsters, more 
like old-school DW. It's what you CAN'T see that scares you the most. 


On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  wrote: 








I was prepared to hate the new Doctor - but I didn't. I like the way they 
introduced him and his new companion. I like the way he didn't know how to 
properly use his stuff at first. 

I also like the idea (an oldie but a goodie) about bad things living in that 
blind spot that you can only see out of the corner of your eye. 

I got the opportunity to talk about the episode with a 57 year-old friend of 
mine (who is not an SF guy) when he told me he covered his wife's full length 
mirror with a blanket because he didn't like being freaked out every time he 
caught a glimpse of something in the mirror. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... 
wrote: 
 
 That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's got 
 the wrong team writing for him. 
 
 On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :( 
 
 ~ Where love and magic meet ~ 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com 
 Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series: 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon 
 Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath 
 The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m): 
 http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html 
 
 
 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote: 
 
  
  
  I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that good. I 
  don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked Eccleston 
  and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my yet. I 
  also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down. 
  
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... 
   wrote: 
  
  
  
  Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new 
  Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?! I 
  listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew there 
  had 
  already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they really 
  like the new Doctor. The fear was that he was too young and would be too 
  boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this new 
  Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or Eccleston's 
  portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and reminds 
  them 
  of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at least 
  one 
  of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly 
  serious? 
  (Martin would know). 
  Should be interesting... 
  
  
  *
   
  
  http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp 
  
  Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide 
  
  Original Air Date: April 17, 2010 
  SYNOPSIS 
  
  Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the Doctor 
  Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The Ultimate 
  Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside the world's 
  biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: The 
  Ultimate 
  Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA, followed 
  by 
  the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c. 
  
  
  Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour 
  
  Written by: Steven Moffat 
  Directed by: Adam Smith 
  Original Air Date: April 17, 2010 
  SYNOPSIS 
  
  The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes before 
  he can even recover. With the TARDIS

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-01 Thread Mr. Worf
Yea, I loved the queen too. I knew someone would love her. :)

I think that they are trying to ride a fine line between mature writing /
kid appeal / and old school fans.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote:



 I just saw the episode The Beast Below, in which the Starship UK is
 taking refugees from Earth across space. I rather enjoyed it. It had some
 typical corny/scary Dr. Who creatures: robotic sentries that looked like wax
 statues.
 And I liked that way they showed again how the  Doctor can turn on a dime
 from goofy and humorous to grimly serious, even scary--alien. When he
 realized the secret of the ship, and what his Companion did in an attempt to
 save him from a difficult choice, he became cold and determined to send her
 home. And when he yelled at the perpetrators of the horror, saying There is
 nothing any human can say to me today!, we're reminded that  he's not a
 quixotic human, but a Timelord capable of grand and terrible things.

 And I loved the concept of the pistol-packing Sister who was Queen
 Elizabeth X.  The actress playing her was quite fetching, almost like Gina
 Torres younger sister or something. I'd love to see more of her.

 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.com
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2010 3:28:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC
 America!



 I'm enjoying the low-tech way they're going about creating the monsters,
 more like old-school DW. It's what you CAN'T see that scares you the most.

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn ravena...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I was prepared to hate the new Doctor - but I didn't. I like the way they
 introduced him and his new companion. I like the way he didn't know how to
 properly use his stuff at first.

 I also like the idea (an oldie but a goodie) about bad things living in
 that blind spot that you can only see out of the corner of your eye.

 I got the opportunity to talk about the episode with a 57 year-old friend
 of mine (who is not an SF guy) when he told me he covered his wife's full
 length mirror with a blanket because he didn't like being freaked out every
 time he caught a glimpse of something in the mirror.

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com,
 Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... wrote:
 
  That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's
 got
  the wrong team writing for him.
 
  On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :(
 
  ~ Where love and magic meet ~
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com
  Experience the magic of the Dark Moon series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#darkmoon
  Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series:
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath
  The future of psychic sex - Dawn of the Seraphs (m/m):
  http://www.adriannebrennan.com/dawnoftheseraphs.html
 
 
  On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that
 good. I
   don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked
 Eccleston
   and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my
 yet. I
   also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down.
  
   On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@...
wrote:
  
  
  
   Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the
 new
   Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?!
 I
   listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew
 there had
   already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they
 really
   like the new Doctor. The fear was that he was too young and would be
 too
   boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this
 new
   Doctor is more professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or
 Eccleston's
   portrayals. They saw he looks young, but actually acts old, and
 reminds them
   of a throwback to a couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at
 least one
   of them was an older guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly
 serious?
   (Martin would know).
   Should be interesting...
  
  
  
 *
  
   http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp
  
   Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
  
   Original Air Date: April 17, 2010
   SYNOPSIS
  
   Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the
 Doctor
   Who universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The
 Ultimate
   Guide. The program is an original, all-access look inside the world's
   biggest, most successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: The
 Ultimate
   Guide premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA,
 followed by
   the series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-05-01 Thread Keith Johnson
I just realized Queen Elizabeth X was played by Academy Award nominated Sophie 
Okonedo of Hotel Rawanda. I thought she brought a lot of presence to a fairly 
small role. She's quite stunning. I'm still amazed at how a country where 
blacks don't have the clout or opportunities in acting they do here still seems 
to give them good roles so often. 

As for the balancing act, you're right. They seem to have changed the tone 
slightly. Everything from Smith to the writing to even the camera work is in 
ways a bit more lighthearted than Tennant's --and especially 
Eccleston's--tenures were. The pacing is faster, giving the show a breezy 
feeling. There are a lot more overtly comedic tones to the dialogue. Definitely 
less dark now. Maybe the producers felt it was time for a change? 


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Yea, I loved the queen too. I knew someone would love her. :) 

I think that they are trying to ride a fine line between mature writing / kid 
appeal / and old school fans. 


On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Keith Johnson  keithbjohn...@comcast.net  
wrote: 






I just saw the episode The Beast Below, in which the Starship UK is taking 
refugees from Earth across space. I rather enjoyed it. It had some typical 
corny/scary Dr. Who creatures: robotic sentries that looked like wax statues. 
And I liked that way they showed again how the Doctor can turn on a dime from 
goofy and humorous to grimly serious, even scary--alien. When he realized the 
secret of the ship, and what his Companion did in an attempt to save him from a 
difficult choice, he became cold and determined to send her home. And when he 
yelled at the perpetrators of the horror, saying There is nothing any human 
can say to me today!, we're reminded that he's not a quixotic human, but a 
Timelord capable of grand and terrible things. 

And I loved the concept of the pistol-packing Sister who was Queen Elizabeth X. 
The actress playing her was quite fetching, almost like Gina Torres younger 
sister or something. I'd love to see more of her. 

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I'm enjoying the low-tech way they're going about creating the monsters, more 
like old-school DW. It's what you CAN'T see that scares you the most. 





On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kelwyn  ravena...@yahoo.com  wrote: 








I was prepared to hate the new Doctor - but I didn't. I like the way they 
introduced him and his new companion. I like the way he didn't know how to 
properly use his stuff at first. 

I also like the idea (an oldie but a goodie) about bad things living in that 
blind spot that you can only see out of the corner of your eye. 

I got the opportunity to talk about the episode with a 57 year-old friend of 
mine (who is not an SF guy) when he told me he covered his wife's full length 
mirror with a blanket because he didn't like being freaked out every time he 
caught a glimpse of something in the mirror. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@... 
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 That was my take on the writing as well. I love the new Doctor but he's got 
 the wrong team writing for him. 
 
 On the whole, I'm pretty disappointed and I'm a big Who fan. :( 
 
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 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Mike Street streetfor...@... wrote: 
 
  
  
  I saw the first episode a few weeks ago and it wasn't really that good. I 
  don't really like the new Dr. at all. He's a bit boring. I liked Eccleston 
  and Tenant right off from their appearances but Matt has grown on my yet. I 
  also think the quality of the quality of the writing has gone down. 
  
  On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... 
   wrote: 
  
  
  
  Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new 
  Doctor wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?! I 
  listened to a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew there 
  had 
  already seen the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they really 
  like the new Doctor. The fear was that he was too young and would be too 
  boyish and goofy. However, they were surprised to discover that this new 
  Doctor is more

[scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-04-17 Thread Kelwyn
What?  There is something on tonight besides NBA Playoff Basketball? 
 
Seriously though, my DVR is primed and ready to record the new Doctor.

By the by, my Doctor was Tom Baker (WAY back in the last millennium) but I 
became rather fond of David Tennant's portrayal.  

As soon as I finish rewatching the Sanaa Lathan season of Nip/Tuck, I will add 
the Eccleston episodes, which I haven't seen, to my Netflix queue.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote:

 Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new Doctor 
 wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?! I listened to 
 a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew there had already seen 
 the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they really like the new 
 Doctor. The fear was that he was too young and would be too boyish and goofy. 
 However, they were surprised to discover that this new Doctor is more 
 professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or Eccleston's portrayals. They saw 
 he looks young, but actually acts old, and reminds them of a throwback to a 
 couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at least one of them was an older 
 guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly serious? (Martin would know). 
 Should be interesting... 
 
 * 
 
 http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp 
 
 Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide 
 
 Original Air Date: April 17, 2010 
 SYNOPSIS 
 
 Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the Doctor Who 
 universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide. 
 The program is an original, all-access look inside the world's biggest, most 
 successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide 
 premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA, followed by the 
 series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c. 
 
 
 Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour 
 
 Written by: Steven Moffat 
 Directed by: Adam Smith 
 Original Air Date: April 17, 2010 
 SYNOPSIS 
 
 The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes before he 
 can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic screwdriver 
 destroyed, the new Doctor has just twenty minutes to save the whole world - 
 and only Amy Pond to help him.





Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America!

2010-04-17 Thread Keith Johnson
I'm being a good husband and watching the Lifetime movie The Front. It's 
based on a novel by best-selling author Pat Cornwall, and is actually pretty 
good. I'll catch the Doctor at the midnight rerun. 

I like Eccleston slightly better, as I said in another post. I think people 
like Tenant because he was more fun and quirky, whereas Eccleston was darker, 
more battle weary. I never watched Dr. Who before the rebirth in recent years, 
but had always thought of Baker when I thought of the Doctor, as he was the 
most famous up until now. 


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Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:24:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: New Dr. Who Premieres Saturday on BBC America! 






What? There is something on tonight besides NBA Playoff Basketball? 

Seriously though, my DVR is primed and ready to record the new Doctor. 

By the by, my Doctor was Tom Baker (WAY back in the last millennium) but I 
became rather fond of David Tennant's portrayal. 

As soon as I finish rewatching the Sanaa Lathan season of Nip/Tuck, I will add 
the Eccleston episodes, which I haven't seen, to my Netflix queue. 

~rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: 
 
 Holy crap, i almost overlooked this! For some reason I thought the new Doctor 
 wasn't premiering until June, but it's airing tomorrow night?! I listened to 
 a Slice of SciFi podcast recently about it. The crew there had already seen 
 the first ep, The Eleventh Hour. Doubters all, they really like the new 
 Doctor. The fear was that he was too young and would be too boyish and goofy. 
 However, they were surprised to discover that this new Doctor is more 
 professorial, more fastidious than Tenant or Eccleston's portrayals. They saw 
 he looks young, but actually acts old, and reminds them of a throwback to a 
 couple of the earlier incarnations. I think at least one of them was an older 
 guy who was a combination of crotchety, deadly serious? (Martin would know). 
 Should be interesting... 
 
 * 
 
 http://www.bbcamerica.com/shows/doctor-who/index.jsp 
 
 Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide 
 
 Original Air Date: April 17, 2010 
 SYNOPSIS 
 
 Just in time for the U.S. premiere of Doctor Who, journey into the Doctor Who 
 universe with BBC AMERICA's original program, Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide. 
 The program is an original, all-access look inside the world's biggest, most 
 successful sci-fi television program. Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide 
 premieres Saturday, April 17th at 8 pm/7c on BBC AMERICA, followed by the 
 series premiere of the new Doctor Who at 9pm/8c. 
 
 
 Episode 1 - The Eleventh Hour 
 
 Written by: Steven Moffat 
 Directed by: Adam Smith 
 Original Air Date: April 17, 2010 
 SYNOPSIS 
 
 The Doctor has regenerated into a brand new man, but danger strikes before he 
 can even recover. With the TARDIS wrecked, and the sonic screwdriver 
 destroyed, the new Doctor has just twenty minutes to save the whole world - 
 and only Amy Pond to help him.