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Not many folks are in the class you mentioned but she brings a different vibe and her concerts are awesome. She's a complete performer and has mastered the art of stagecraft. She actually sings live with a band which puts her head and shoulders above a ton of her contemparies and can stretch her boundaries. Like I said earlier I was floored when she went full on rock goddess with that cover of You Oughta Know. As far as India.Arie goes I felt terrible for her that night. She's won several Grammys since then but she seemed so hurt. BTW I think the inverse was true this year. She was one of the weaker nominees in the category she won. The Foreign Exchange's sublime Daykeeper was my favorite song of the bunch. The album Leave It All Behind was one of the best I've heard in a long time. Check them out: http://www.theforeignexchangemusic.com/index.php If you like India you might like Mushinah the female vocalist featured on Daykeeper. She's great. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I think Knowles is very solid as a performer, but not the best singer around. i wouldn't even discuss her vocal talents in the same sentence as Aretha Franklin, Patti LeBelle, Oleta Adams, india arie (whose overall skill in singing, writing, and guitar are way more precious than a pretty face and short dresses), Tracy Chapman (ditto), Vesta. I look at her as the ultimate pop idol, and that's just fine for pop music. I just tire of it, the way I do too much sugar. I didn't notice Pink's face, was she that obviously ticked? My wife says she read blogs from some Swift fans, and even they conceded she's not a good singer live. But, they say, her albums are great due to production value, and she sounds really good on them! They also tout her lyrics, which supposedly capture the essence of whatever it is white (my word) girls that age feel. To hear them tell it, she's some kind of cute Bob Dylan for the O.C. crowd. I think you're right: West's tirade built up sympathy for Swift, and her cuteness, blonde hair, and pixie like features just made everyone go awww! she's so cute! and they lost their ever-loving minds. The Grammy's have done this before, some would say often, which is why they're not always taken seriously. I personally like Alicia Keys, but, after hearing her debut album, thought she in no way deserved all the Grammy's she got the year india.arie was shutout. Arie's music was much more layered, more organic, more impactful.I mean, how can you ignore songs that tell women and blacks to celebrate themselves? Granted my analogy is flawed: Keys is actually tremendously talented! - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 5:49:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? I mostly agree but I did mark out a bit when Beyonce ripped into a cover of Alanis Morrisette's You Oughta Know. I used to scoff at the attention Beyonce gets but the woman brings it. Her performances are incredible and she is has been consistently putting out solid albums on her own and with Destiny's Child for over a decade. I have to give her props. I was ctfu at Pink's face during the awards. You could tell she was hating on Bey and just disgusted by Taylor Swift. And on that note, Taylor Swift is not ready for primetime. Bringing Stevie Nicks out sing Rhiannon just accentuated how shallow her talents really are right now. They Kanye hatefest is ending and the backlash against her is getting pretty heavy. Kanye's little tirade was the best thing that ever happened to her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Maybe you just wanted the real-time experience. I used to, back when I liked the music of the period enough to invest the time. Haven't watched the Grammys since -- '95, I think. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:21:20 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Yeah, I should have waited for the post-show analyses and blogs, then gone to You Tube to revisit the performances worth seeing. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 3:41:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Keith, can't speak to a single item in that list. All I can say is that I'm
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You are right and that isn't a knock against Knowles. She's a good singer, a better performer, and deserves everything she's earned. I just hate an industry that relegates the likes of Arie and Chapman to the shadows, but that's the way of all the big entertainment biz, movies and music. I think what scares me is, when I was younger, we all watched stuff like Solid Gold, Thanks for the tip on Mushinah, that's a new one to me. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Not many folks are in the class you mentioned but she brings a different vibe and her concerts are awesome. She's a complete performer and has mastered the art of stagecraft. She actually sings live with a band which puts her head and shoulders above a ton of her contemparies and can stretch her boundaries. Like I said earlier I was floored when she went full on rock goddess with that cover of You Oughta Know. As far as India.Arie goes I felt terrible for her that night. She's won several Grammys since then but she seemed so hurt. BTW I think the inverse was true this year. She was one of the weaker nominees in the category she won. The Foreign Exchange's sublime Daykeeper was my favorite song of the bunch. The album Leave It All Behind was one of the best I've heard in a long time. Check them out: http://www.theforeignexchangemusic.com/index.php If you like India you might like Mushinah the female vocalist featured on Daykeeper. She's great. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I think Knowles is very solid as a performer, but not the best singer around. i wouldn't even discuss her vocal talents in the same sentence as Aretha Franklin, Patti LeBelle, Oleta Adams, india arie (whose overall skill in singing, writing, and guitar are way more precious than a pretty face and short dresses), Tracy Chapman (ditto), Vesta. I look at her as the ultimate pop idol, and that's just fine for pop music. I just tire of it, the way I do too much sugar. I didn't notice Pink's face, was she that obviously ticked? My wife says she read blogs from some Swift fans, and even they conceded she's not a good singer live. But, they say, her albums are great due to production value, and she sounds really good on them! They also tout her lyrics, which supposedly capture the essence of whatever it is white (my word) girls that age feel. To hear them tell it, she's some kind of cute Bob Dylan for the O.C. crowd. I think you're right: West's tirade built up sympathy for Swift, and her cuteness, blonde hair, and pixie like features just made everyone go awww! she's so cute! and they lost their ever-loving minds. The Grammy's have done this before, some would say often, which is why they're not always taken seriously. I personally like Alicia Keys, but, after hearing her debut album, thought she in no way deserved all the Grammy's she got the year india.arie was shutout. Arie's music was much more layered, more organic, more impactful.I mean, how can you ignore songs that tell women and blacks to celebrate themselves? Granted my analogy is flawed: Keys is actually tremendously talented! - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 5:49:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? I mostly agree but I did mark out a bit when Beyonce ripped into a cover of Alanis Morrisette's You Oughta Know. I used to scoff at the attention Beyonce gets but the woman brings it. Her performances are incredible and she is has been consistently putting out solid albums on her own and with Destiny's Child for over a decade. I have to give her props. I was ctfu at Pink's face during the awards. You could tell she was hating on Bey and just disgusted by Taylor Swift. And on that note, Taylor Swift is not ready for primetime. Bringing Stevie Nicks out sing Rhiannon just accentuated how shallow her talents really are right now. They Kanye hatefest is ending and the backlash against her is getting pretty heavy. Kanye's little tirade was the best thing that ever happened to her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Maybe you just wanted the real-time experience. I used to, back when I liked the music of the period enough to invest the time. Haven't watched the Grammys since -- '95, I think. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: KeithBJohnson@ Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:21:20
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Give the Foreign Exchange a listen. Phonte, Muhsinah and Darien Brockinton tear those songs up and Nicolay's production is just great. Too bad traditional rb radio doesn't have room for acts like them to receive airplay. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: You are right and that isn't a knock against Knowles. She's a good singer, a better performer, and deserves everything she's earned. I just hate an industry that relegates the likes of Arie and Chapman to the shadows, but that's the way of all the big entertainment biz, movies and music. I think what scares me is, when I was younger, we all watched stuff like Solid Gold, Thanks for the tip on Mushinah, that's a new one to me. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Not many folks are in the class you mentioned but she brings a different vibe and her concerts are awesome. She's a complete performer and has mastered the art of stagecraft. She actually sings live with a band which puts her head and shoulders above a ton of her contemparies and can stretch her boundaries. Like I said earlier I was floored when she went full on rock goddess with that cover of You Oughta Know. As far as India.Arie goes I felt terrible for her that night. She's won several Grammys since then but she seemed so hurt. BTW I think the inverse was true this year. She was one of the weaker nominees in the category she won. The Foreign Exchange's sublime Daykeeper was my favorite song of the bunch. The album Leave It All Behind was one of the best I've heard in a long time. Check them out: http://www.theforeignexchangemusic.com/index.php If you like India you might like Mushinah the female vocalist featured on Daykeeper. She's great. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I think Knowles is very solid as a performer, but not the best singer around. i wouldn't even discuss her vocal talents in the same sentence as Aretha Franklin, Patti LeBelle, Oleta Adams, india arie (whose overall skill in singing, writing, and guitar are way more precious than a pretty face and short dresses), Tracy Chapman (ditto), Vesta. I look at her as the ultimate pop idol, and that's just fine for pop music. I just tire of it, the way I do too much sugar. I didn't notice Pink's face, was she that obviously ticked? My wife says she read blogs from some Swift fans, and even they conceded she's not a good singer live. But, they say, her albums are great due to production value, and she sounds really good on them! They also tout her lyrics, which supposedly capture the essence of whatever it is white (my word) girls that age feel. To hear them tell it, she's some kind of cute Bob Dylan for the O.C. crowd. I think you're right: West's tirade built up sympathy for Swift, and her cuteness, blonde hair, and pixie like features just made everyone go awww! she's so cute! and they lost their ever-loving minds. The Grammy's have done this before, some would say often, which is why they're not always taken seriously. I personally like Alicia Keys, but, after hearing her debut album, thought she in no way deserved all the Grammy's she got the year india.arie was shutout. Arie's music was much more layered, more organic, more impactful.I mean, how can you ignore songs that tell women and blacks to celebrate themselves? Granted my analogy is flawed: Keys is actually tremendously talented! - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 5:49:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? I mostly agree but I did mark out a bit when Beyonce ripped into a cover of Alanis Morrisette's You Oughta Know. I used to scoff at the attention Beyonce gets but the woman brings it. Her performances are incredible and she is has been consistently putting out solid albums on her own and with Destiny's Child for over a decade. I have to give her props. I was ctfu at Pink's face during the awards. You could tell she was hating on Bey and just disgusted by Taylor Swift. And on that note, Taylor Swift is not ready for primetime. Bringing Stevie Nicks out sing Rhiannon just accentuated how shallow her talents really are right now. They Kanye hatefest is ending and the backlash against her is getting pretty heavy. Kanye's little tirade was the best thing that ever happened to her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: Maybe you just wanted the real-time experience. I used to, back when I liked
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I can't remember the last time I listened to traditional radio for anything. Most people don't seem to know or care how many stations nationwide are owned by monopolies like Clear Channel. Drive coast-to-coast, and you'll be asailed with endless playings of Knowles, Rhianna, Taylor Swift, Carey Underwood, or whatever other flavor is hot. And talk radio is basically Limbaugh, Hannity, Neal Bortz, and Liddy broadcast coast-to-coast. Boring and irritating. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 10:20:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Give the Foreign Exchange a listen. Phonte, Muhsinah and Darien Brockinton tear those songs up and Nicolay's production is just great. Too bad traditional rb radio doesn't have room for acts like them to receive airplay. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: You are right and that isn't a knock against Knowles. She's a good singer, a better performer, and deserves everything she's earned. I just hate an industry that relegates the likes of Arie and Chapman to the shadows, but that's the way of all the big entertainment biz, movies and music. I think what scares me is, when I was younger, we all watched stuff like Solid Gold, Thanks for the tip on Mushinah, that's a new one to me. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Not many folks are in the class you mentioned but she brings a different vibe and her concerts are awesome. She's a complete performer and has mastered the art of stagecraft. She actually sings live with a band which puts her head and shoulders above a ton of her contemparies and can stretch her boundaries. Like I said earlier I was floored when she went full on rock goddess with that cover of You Oughta Know. As far as India.Arie goes I felt terrible for her that night. She's won several Grammys since then but she seemed so hurt. BTW I think the inverse was true this year. She was one of the weaker nominees in the category she won. The Foreign Exchange's sublime Daykeeper was my favorite song of the bunch. The album Leave It All Behind was one of the best I've heard in a long time. Check them out: http://www.theforeignexchangemusic.com/index.php If you like India you might like Mushinah the female vocalist featured on Daykeeper. She's great. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I think Knowles is very solid as a performer, but not the best singer around. i wouldn't even discuss her vocal talents in the same sentence as Aretha Franklin, Patti LeBelle, Oleta Adams, india arie (whose overall skill in singing, writing, and guitar are way more precious than a pretty face and short dresses), Tracy Chapman (ditto), Vesta. I look at her as the ultimate pop idol, and that's just fine for pop music. I just tire of it, the way I do too much sugar. I didn't notice Pink's face, was she that obviously ticked? My wife says she read blogs from some Swift fans, and even they conceded she's not a good singer live. But, they say, her albums are great due to production value, and she sounds really good on them! They also tout her lyrics, which supposedly capture the essence of whatever it is white (my word) girls that age feel. To hear them tell it, she's some kind of cute Bob Dylan for the O.C. crowd. I think you're right: West's tirade built up sympathy for Swift, and her cuteness, blonde hair, and pixie like features just made everyone go awww! she's so cute! and they lost their ever-loving minds. The Grammy's have done this before, some would say often, which is why they're not always taken seriously. I personally like Alicia Keys, but, after hearing her debut album, thought she in no way deserved all the Grammy's she got the year india.arie was shutout. Arie's music was much more layered, more organic, more impactful.I mean, how can you ignore songs that tell women and blacks to celebrate themselves? Granted my analogy is flawed: Keys is actually tremendously talented! - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 5:49:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? I mostly agree but I did mark out a bit when Beyonce ripped into a cover of Alanis Morrisette's You Oughta Know. I used to scoff at the attention Beyonce gets but the woman brings it. Her performances are incredible and she is has been consistently putting out solid albums on her own
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A vast wasteland indeed. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: I can't remember the last time I listened to traditional radio for anything. Most people don't seem to know or care how many stations nationwide are owned by monopolies like Clear Channel. Drive coast-to-coast, and you'll be asailed with endless playings of Knowles, Rhianna, Taylor Swift, Carey Underwood, or whatever other flavor is hot. And talk radio is basically Limbaugh, Hannity, Neal Bortz, and Liddy broadcast coast-to-coast. Boring and irritating. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 10:20:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Give the Foreign Exchange a listen. Phonte, Muhsinah and Darien Brockinton tear those songs up and Nicolay's production is just great. Too bad traditional rb radio doesn't have room for acts like them to receive airplay. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: You are right and that isn't a knock against Knowles. She's a good singer, a better performer, and deserves everything she's earned. I just hate an industry that relegates the likes of Arie and Chapman to the shadows, but that's the way of all the big entertainment biz, movies and music. I think what scares me is, when I was younger, we all watched stuff like Solid Gold, Thanks for the tip on Mushinah, that's a new one to me. - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:21:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Not many folks are in the class you mentioned but she brings a different vibe and her concerts are awesome. She's a complete performer and has mastered the art of stagecraft. She actually sings live with a band which puts her head and shoulders above a ton of her contemparies and can stretch her boundaries. Like I said earlier I was floored when she went full on rock goddess with that cover of You Oughta Know. As far as India.Arie goes I felt terrible for her that night. She's won several Grammys since then but she seemed so hurt. BTW I think the inverse was true this year. She was one of the weaker nominees in the category she won. The Foreign Exchange's sublime Daykeeper was my favorite song of the bunch. The album Leave It All Behind was one of the best I've heard in a long time. Check them out: http://www.theforeignexchangemusic.com/index.php If you like India you might like Mushinah the female vocalist featured on Daykeeper. She's great. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I think Knowles is very solid as a performer, but not the best singer around. i wouldn't even discuss her vocal talents in the same sentence as Aretha Franklin, Patti LeBelle, Oleta Adams, india arie (whose overall skill in singing, writing, and guitar are way more precious than a pretty face and short dresses), Tracy Chapman (ditto), Vesta. I look at her as the ultimate pop idol, and that's just fine for pop music. I just tire of it, the way I do too much sugar. I didn't notice Pink's face, was she that obviously ticked? My wife says she read blogs from some Swift fans, and even they conceded she's not a good singer live. But, they say, her albums are great due to production value, and she sounds really good on them! They also tout her lyrics, which supposedly capture the essence of whatever it is white (my word) girls that age feel. To hear them tell it, she's some kind of cute Bob Dylan for the O.C. crowd. I think you're right: West's tirade built up sympathy for Swift, and her cuteness, blonde hair, and pixie like features just made everyone go awww! she's so cute! and they lost their ever-loving minds. The Grammy's have done this before, some would say often, which is why they're not always taken seriously. I personally like Alicia Keys, but, after hearing her debut album, thought she in no way deserved all the Grammy's she got the year india.arie was shutout. Arie's music was much more layered, more organic, more impactful.I mean, how can you ignore songs that tell women and blacks to celebrate themselves? Granted my analogy is flawed: Keys is actually tremendously talented! - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaiju66@ To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 5:49:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? I mostly agree but I did mark out a bit when Beyonce ripped into a cover of Alanis Morrisette's You
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Keith, I threw away my radio nine years ago. The only time I hear one is when I walk into the kitchen, where my mother's is playing all day long, the same 250 classic RB songs over and over. If it wasn't for downloaded music, I would've popped a gasket years ago. _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/
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I listen to NPR, Clark Howard, and the Tom Joyner Morning Show on the car and home radios, and on my iPod. Just as often, I stream all of them online. Other than that, there's very little time I use the radio either. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:26:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Keith, I threw away my radio nine years ago. The only time I hear one is when I walk into the kitchen, where my mother's is playing all day long, the same 250 classic RB songs over and over. If it wasn't for downloaded music, I would've popped a gasket years ago. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
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When you know the exact number of songs, that's gotta be bad... Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet From THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES by C.W. Badie --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 2:26 PM Keith, I threw away my radio nine years ago. The only time I hear one is when I walk into the kitchen, where my mother's is playing all day long, the same 250 classic RB songs over and over. If it wasn't for downloaded music, I would've popped a gasket years ago. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now.
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I mostly agree but I did mark out a bit when Beyonce ripped into a cover of Alanis Morrisette's You Oughta Know. I used to scoff at the attention Beyonce gets but the woman brings it. Her performances are incredible and she is has been consistently putting out solid albums on her own and with Destiny's Child for over a decade. I have to give her props. I was ctfu at Pink's face during the awards. You could tell she was hating on Bey and just disgusted by Taylor Swift. And on that note, Taylor Swift is not ready for primetime. Bringing Stevie Nicks out sing Rhiannon just accentuated how shallow her talents really are right now. They Kanye hatefest is ending and the backlash against her is getting pretty heavy. Kanye's little tirade was the best thing that ever happened to her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Maybe you just wanted the real-time experience. I used to, back when I liked the music of the period enough to invest the time. Haven't watched the Grammys since -- '95, I think. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:21:20 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Yeah, I should have waited for the post-show analyses and blogs, then gone to You Tube to revisit the performances worth seeing. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 3:41:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Keith, can't speak to a single item in that list. All I can say is that I'm OH-so-happy that I wasted my time on the Pro Bowl. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:14:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Lessee: Elton John looking more like Janet Reno than ever...Beyonce Knowles doing some weird overproduced musical number about being a boy, surrounded by what looked like jackbooted Robocops...Pink twirling from a rope amidst strobe lights while (un)dressed like Mila Jovovich from The Fifth Element...The Blackeyed Peas romping around on stage while giant shiny metal men do crazy step dancing...Li'l Wayne looking like...well, Li'l Wayne...almost every number replete with sensory overloading lights, smoke/fog, mirrors, and explosions...and, most outre of all-- Taylor Swift wins Album of the Year. (which will do wonders for a show trying maintain a veneer of relevance and critical importance)-- Damn--who would have guessed that the best scifi and fantasy programming on last night wasn't on SyFy, but on CBS? Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/
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I think Knowles is very solid as a performer, but not the best singer around. i wouldn't even discuss her vocal talents in the same sentence as Aretha Franklin, Patti LeBelle, Oleta Adams, india arie (whose overall skill in singing, writing, and guitar are way more precious than a pretty face and short dresses), Tracy Chapman (ditto), Vesta. I look at her as the ultimate pop idol, and that's just fine for pop music. I just tire of it, the way I do too much sugar. I didn't notice Pink's face, was she that obviously ticked? My wife says she read blogs from some Swift fans, and even they conceded she's not a good singer live. But, they say, her albums are great due to production value, and she sounds really good on them! They also tout her lyrics, which supposedly capture the essence of whatever it is white (my word) girls that age feel. To hear them tell it, she's some kind of cute Bob Dylan for the O.C. crowd. I think you're right: West's tirade built up sympathy for Swift, and her cuteness, blonde hair, and pixie like features just made everyone go awww! she's so cute! and they lost their ever-loving minds. The Grammy's have done this before, some would say often, which is why they're not always taken seriously. I personally like Alicia Keys, but, after hearing her debut album, thought she in no way deserved all the Grammy's she got the year india.arie was shutout. Arie's music was much more layered, more organic, more impactful.I mean, how can you ignore songs that tell women and blacks to celebrate themselves? Granted my analogy is flawed: Keys is actually tremendously talented! - Original Message - From: B Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 5:49:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? I mostly agree but I did mark out a bit when Beyonce ripped into a cover of Alanis Morrisette's You Oughta Know. I used to scoff at the attention Beyonce gets but the woman brings it. Her performances are incredible and she is has been consistently putting out solid albums on her own and with Destiny's Child for over a decade. I have to give her props. I was ctfu at Pink's face during the awards. You could tell she was hating on Bey and just disgusted by Taylor Swift. And on that note, Taylor Swift is not ready for primetime. Bringing Stevie Nicks out sing Rhiannon just accentuated how shallow her talents really are right now. They Kanye hatefest is ending and the backlash against her is getting pretty heavy. Kanye's little tirade was the best thing that ever happened to her. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Maybe you just wanted the real-time experience. I used to, back when I liked the music of the period enough to invest the time. Haven't watched the Grammys since -- '95, I think. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:21:20 + Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Yeah, I should have waited for the post-show analyses and blogs, then gone to You Tube to revisit the performances worth seeing. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 1, 2010 3:41:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Keith, can't speak to a single item in that list. All I can say is that I'm OH-so-happy that I wasted my time on the Pro Bowl. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:14:08 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Why Did I Waste my Time? Lessee: Elton John looking more like Janet Reno than ever...Beyonce Knowles doing some weird overproduced musical number about being a boy, surrounded by what looked like jackbooted Robocops...Pink twirling from a rope amidst strobe lights while (un)dressed like Mila Jovovich from The Fifth Element...The Blackeyed Peas romping around on stage while giant shiny metal men do crazy step dancing...Li'l Wayne looking like...well, Li'l Wayne...almost every number replete with sensory overloading lights, smoke/fog, mirrors, and explosions...and, most outre of all-- Taylor Swift wins Album of the Year. (which will do wonders for a show trying maintain a veneer of relevance and critical importance
