[scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
They make pretty good diversions. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't keep slow people around you. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack' Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1906@ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections
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That's a thought. Someone's got to be noble and rescue the damsels in distress. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:40:56 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack' They make pretty good diversions. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't keep slow people around you. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack' Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1906@ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
LOL...I heard that on NPR the other day...pretty funny stuff as well as interesting... From: daikaiju66 daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:40:56 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack' They make pretty good diversions. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't keep slow people around you. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: daikaij...@. .. Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack' Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: sincere1906@ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often
[scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1...@... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that zombies can come back to life. Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government's chief advisers on controlling the spread of swine flu, said the study did have parallels with some infectious diseases. None of them actually cause large-scale death or disease, but certainly there are some fungal infections which are difficult to eradicate, said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College London. There are some viral infections - simple diseases like chicken pox have survived in very small communities. If you get it when you are very young, the virus stays with you and can re-occur as shingles, triggering a new chicken pox epidemic. Professor Smith? told BBC News: When you try to model an unfamiliar disease, you try to find out what's happening, try to approximate it. You then refine it, go back and try again. We refined the model again and again to say... here's how you would tackle an unfamiliar disease. Professor Ferguson went on to joke: The paper
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack'
Have to agree with you there. With the Dawn '04 Model zombies, you couldn't keep slow people around you. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:40:20 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Science ponders 'zombie attack' Except for all the brain eating and undeadness. The arms industry will make a killing though. *ahem* Slow Romero style zombies would be easier to contain but the running, jumping Dawn of the Dead 2004 model would be the end of the world as we know it except for folks lucky enough to get to uninhabited islands. I'd rather deal with the 28 Days Later style infected. At least in the first movie you could safely travel by day, kill them more easily and barricade yourself inside a strong building for protection. Although the 28 Days Later and Quarantine/Rec style infected are damned hard to get rid of they could be dealt with if you take action quickly. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: A dear friend of mine sent me earlier, and we both agree that such an event might actually be for the betterment of Mankind, slowing down the species's rampant abuse/exploitation of the planet. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: sincere1...@... Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:24:31 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Science ponders 'zombie attack' Science ponders 'zombie attack' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News If zombies actually existed, an attack by them would lead to the collapse of civilisation unless dealt with quickly and aggressively. That is the conclusion of a mathematical exercise carried out by researchers in Canada. They say only frequent counter-attacks with increasing force would eradicate the fictional creatures. The scientific paper is published in a book - Infectious Diseases Modelling Research Progress. In books, films, video games and folklore, zombies are undead creatures, able to turn the living into other zombies with a bite. But there is a serious side to the work. In some respects, a zombie plague resembles a lethal, rapidly spreading infection. The researchers say the exercise could help scientists model the spread of unfamiliar diseases through human populations. My understanding of zombie biology is that if you manage to decapitate a zombie then it's dead forever Professor Neil Ferguson In their study, the researchers from the University of Ottawa and Carleton University (also in Ottawa) posed a question: If there was to be a battle between zombies and the living, who would win? Professor Robert Smith? (the question mark is part of his surname and not a typographical mistake) and colleagues wrote: We model a zombie attack using biological assumptions based on popular zombie movies. We introduce a basic model for zombie infection and illustrate the outcome with numerical solutions. FROM THE TODAY PROGRAMME More from Today programme To give the living a fighting chance, the researchers chose classic slow-moving zombies as our opponents rather than the nimble, intelligent creatures portrayed in some recent films. While we are trying to be as broad as possible in modelling zombies - especially as there are many variables - we have decided not to consider these individuals, the researchers said. Back for good? Even so, their analysis revealed that a strategy of capturing or curing the zombies would only put off the inevitable. In their scientific paper, the authors conclude that humanity's only hope is to hit them [the undead] hard and hit them often. They added: It's imperative that zombies are dealt with quickly or else... we are all in a great deal of trouble. According to the researchers, the key difference between the zombies and the spread of real infections is that zombies can come back to life. Professor Neil Ferguson, who is one of the UK government's chief advisers on controlling the spread of swine flu, said the study did have parallels with some infectious diseases. None of them actually cause large-scale death or disease, but certainly there are some fungal infections which are difficult to eradicate, said Professor Ferguson, from Imperial College
