[scifinoir2] Re: The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

2010-08-02 Thread B Smith
This list sucks. Where are Ernie The Big Cat Ladd, Bobo Brazil, Sailor Art 
Thomas, Rocky Johnson, Bearcat Wright, Ray Candy, Sonny King, Hacksaw Butch 
Reed and Tony Atlas?

Ice Train? Hell New Jack deserves a spot on the list before he would.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@... wrote:

 Mr Worf, they left off the first Black wrestler I can remember, Tony Atlas.
 And no... the People's Elbow cannot be topped. [?][?][?][?]
 
 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
  By Claudio E. Cabrera http://newsone.com/author/ccabrera/ July 30, 2010
  10:23 am
 
  [image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]
 
  As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
  Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn't WWF, it was WCW. If it was neither
  of those, I'd have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my parents
  wouldn't hear me up so late.
 
  In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of
  them were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the
  only ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers
  always seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very
  stereotypical light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being the
  leader of a Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala
  being portrayed as a man who couldn't speak and was made to seem as if all
  Africans were like him.
 
  All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky Maivia
  and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But things
  changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
  African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He had
  charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular. Many
  will claim that he isn't Black or that being light skin helped him out (the
  latter I won't deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for other
  Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
  federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
  brands was huge
 
  In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in
  my opinion and in no particular order) the Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers
  Of All-Time.
 
  Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
  forgotten.
 
  [image: Booker_T_511772a]
 
  *#1 Booker T*
 
  I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990's. He has
  come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
  remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
  Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!
 
  *Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the 
  N-Wordhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o82BVKFp8
 
  [image: KOKO B WARE 2]
 
  *#2 Koko B Ware*
 
  If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of it's
  Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
  parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to make
  us look bad.
 
  All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!
 
  Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of 
  Kokohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As3-wCf297A
 
  [image: Junkyard Dog]
 
  *#3* *Junkyard Dog*
 
  I wasn't old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of him
  body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the toughest
  and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal chain
  around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.
 
  May he rest in peace.*
  *
 
  Clip: Tribute to Junkyard 
  Doghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1XNfDPfkofeature=related
 
  [image: Picture 1]
 
  *#4 Ice Train*
 
  If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as hard
  as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.
 
  Clip: Giant vs Ice 
  Trainhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QYqcRcHOpgfeature=related
 
  [image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]
 
  *#5 **The Rock*
 
  Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?
 
  That was The Rock's catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a
  match. The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the funniest
  ever in my opinion. I mean, can you really top the People's Elbow?
 
  Clip: The Rock making fun of Lilian 
  Garciahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMML_zdfxA
 
  [image: godfather]
 
  *#6 **Godfather*
 
  Three words: Pimpin Aint Easy!
 
  Clip: Godfather vs Golddust http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fumFTjkXtqo
 
  [image: Ron_Simmons]*#7 Farooq*
 
  The former football player for the Univ of Miami became a wrestler and a
  damn good one. He headed up the Nation of Domination and also played plenty
  of different characters.
 
  Clip: Faarooq disbands Nation of 
  Dominationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G_kyXx0D2Mfeature=related
 
  [image: 29]
 
  *#8 Mark Henry*
 
  The world's strongest man. 

[scifinoir2] Re: The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

2010-08-02 Thread B Smith
And I should kick myself for forgetting Abdullah the Butcher, Sweet Daddy Siki, 
Bad News Brown/Allen, Iceman King Parsons and other legends.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, B Smith daikaij...@... wrote:

 This list sucks. Where are Ernie The Big Cat Ladd, Bobo Brazil, Sailor Art 
 Thomas, Rocky Johnson, Bearcat Wright, Ray Candy, Sonny King, Hacksaw Butch 
 Reed and Tony Atlas?
 
 Ice Train? Hell New Jack deserves a spot on the list before he would.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter martinbaxter7@ wrote:
 
  Mr Worf, they left off the first Black wrestler I can remember, Tony Atlas.
  And no... the People's Elbow cannot be topped. [?][?][?][?]
  
  On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ wrote:
  
  
  
   The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
   By Claudio E. Cabrera http://newsone.com/author/ccabrera/ July 30, 2010
   10:23 am
  
   [image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]
  
   As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
   Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn't WWF, it was WCW. If it was 
   neither
   of those, I'd have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my parents
   wouldn't hear me up so late.
  
   In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of
   them were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the
   only ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers
   always seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very
   stereotypical light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being 
   the
   leader of a Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala
   being portrayed as a man who couldn't speak and was made to seem as if all
   Africans were like him.
  
   All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky 
   Maivia
   and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But 
   things
   changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
   African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He 
   had
   charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular. Many
   will claim that he isn't Black or that being light skin helped him out 
   (the
   latter I won't deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for 
   other
   Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
   federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
   brands was huge
  
   In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in
   my opinion and in no particular order) the Top 10 Greatest Black 
   Wrestlers
   Of All-Time.
  
   Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
   forgotten.
  
   [image: Booker_T_511772a]
  
   *#1 Booker T*
  
   I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990's. He has
   come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
   remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
   Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!
  
   *Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the 
   N-Wordhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o82BVKFp8
  
   [image: KOKO B WARE 2]
  
   *#2 Koko B Ware*
  
   If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of it's
   Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
   parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to make
   us look bad.
  
   All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!
  
   Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of 
   Kokohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As3-wCf297A
  
   [image: Junkyard Dog]
  
   *#3* *Junkyard Dog*
  
   I wasn't old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of 
   him
   body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the 
   toughest
   and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal 
   chain
   around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.
  
   May he rest in peace.*
   *
  
   Clip: Tribute to Junkyard 
   Doghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1XNfDPfkofeature=related
  
   [image: Picture 1]
  
   *#4 Ice Train*
  
   If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as hard
   as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.
  
   Clip: Giant vs Ice 
   Trainhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QYqcRcHOpgfeature=related
  
   [image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]
  
   *#5 **The Rock*
  
   Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?
  
   That was The Rock's catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a
   match. The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the 
   funniest
   ever in my opinion. I mean, can you really top the People's Elbow?
  
   Clip: The Rock making fun of Lilian 
   Garciahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMML_zdfxA
  
   [image: godfather]
  
   *#6 **Godfather*
  
   Three words: Pimpin Aint Easy!
  
   Clip: Godfather vs Golddust http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fumFTjkXtqo
  
   [image: 

[scifinoir2] Re: The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time

2010-08-02 Thread Kelwyn
Every time I read one of these internet greatest lists Sly and the Family 
Stone's Babies making babies always plays in my head.  

These kids don't know nuthin' about anything that happened before either they 
or the internet was born.

The Junkyard Dog is listed after Koko B Ware?  And, regarding Ware, most of the 
wrestlers listed were more rodeo clowns than wrestlers: Mr. T?  I am surprised 
Zeus (Tiny Lister) is not on this list.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@... wrote:

 The Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of All-Time
 By Claudio E. Cabrera http://newsone.com/author/ccabrera/ July 30, 2010
 10:23 am
 
 [image: 22-the-rock-wwf-champ]
 
 As a kid growing up, my favorite sport to watch on Saturday mornings and
 Monday nights was wrestling. If it wasn’t WWF, it was WCW. If it was neither
 of those, I’d have to sneak in ECW late night on low volume so my parents
 wouldn’t hear me up so late.
 
 In elementary school, everyone had their favorite wrestlers and most of them
 were white. We all had white favorites because they seemed to be the only
 ones on top (not because of color). The Black and Latino wrestlers always
 seemed to be middle of the road and were portrayed in a very stereotypical
 light. Think of the Godfather being a Pimp. Faarooq being the leader of a
 Black Panther esque group in the Nation of Domination. Kamala being
 portrayed as a man who couldn’t speak and was made to seem as if all
 Africans were like him.
 
 All this continued until The Rock came along. At first, he was Rocky Maivia
 and just a regular wrestler who was on the undercard most times. But things
 changed in year three or four of his career when he became the first
 African-American star to grab the title of #1 wrestler in the world. He had
 charisma, the ladies loved him, and his finishing moves were popular. Many
 will claim that he isn’t Black or that being light skin helped him out (the
 latter I won’t deny), but on a grand scale, he helped pave the way for other
 Black wrestlers to receive their necessary shine. For these wrestling
 federations to give a Black wrestler a shot at being the face of their
 brands was huge
 
 In saying all this, I thought I would dedicate some time to a list of (in my
 opinion and in no particular order) the “Top 10 Greatest Black Wrestlers Of
 All-Time.”
 
 Feel free to disagree with me or add any people you think I may have
 forgotten.
 
 [image: Booker_T_511772a]
 
 *#1 Booker T*
 
 I remember Booker T when he was with Harlem Heat in the mid 1990’s. He has
 come a long way to become a world champion in the WWE numerous times. I
 remember when he called Hulk Hogan the n-word by mistake with Mean Gene
 Okerlund interviewing him. Classic stuff!
 
 *Clip: *Booker T calls Hulk Hogan the
 N-Wordhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o82BVKFp8
 
 [image: KOKO B WARE 2]
 
 *#2 Koko B Ware*
 
 If there is one wrestler Black folk love to remember and make fun of it’s
 Koko B Ware. Not only was his getup a bit strange, but he also carried a
 parrot around. God did the WWE and other wrestling federations try to make
 us look bad.
 
 All in all, FLAP THOSE WINGS!
 
 Clip: WWE Hall Of Fame video of 
 Kokohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As3-wCf297A
 
 [image: Junkyard Dog]
 
 *#3* *Junkyard Dog*
 
 I wasn’t old enough to see Junkyard Dog, but I remember seeing clips of him
 body-slamming the sports biggest stars. He is said to be one of the toughest
 and strongest wrestlers to ever compete period. He walked with a metal chain
 around his neck and crawled on the floor like a dog.
 
 May he rest in peace.*
 *
 
 Clip: Tribute to Junkyard
 Doghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu1XNfDPfkofeature=related
 
 [image: Picture 1]
 
 *#4 Ice Train*
 
 If there is one thing you can say about Ice Train, was that he was as hard
 as a block of ice and rarely ever melted.
 
 Clip: Giant vs Ice
 Trainhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QYqcRcHOpgfeature=related
 
 [image: the_rockjagdish-1.blogs.com]
 
 *#5 **The Rock*
 
 “Do you sme…what The Rock…is cooking?”
 
 That was The Rock’s catchphrase every time he ended an interview or a match.
 The Rock was by far my favorite wrestler of all-time and the funniest ever
 in my opinion. I mean, can you really top the People’s Elbow?
 
 Clip: The Rock making fun of Lilian
 Garciahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtMML_zdfxA
 
 [image: godfather]
 
 *#6 **Godfather*
 
 Three words: “Pimpin Aint Easy!”
 
 Clip: Godfather vs Golddust http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fumFTjkXtqo
 
 [image: Ron_Simmons]*#7 Farooq*
 
 The former football player for the Univ of Miami became a wrestler and a
 damn good one. He headed up the Nation of Domination and also played plenty
 of different characters.
 
 Clip: Faarooq disbands Nation of
 Dominationhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G_kyXx0D2Mfeature=related
 
 [image: 29]
 
 *#8 Mark Henry*
 
 The world’s strongest man. Big Mark Henry went from being a bad guy with the