Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Baxter
Speak of the Devil, B... there's one on right now, "Bad Man's River" with
Lee Van Cleef.

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:54 AM, B Smith  wrote:

>
>
> I like Encore Westerns too. They even trot out some of the better non-Leone
> spaghetti westerns from time to time.
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin
> Baxter  wrote:
> >
> > Almost everything, Keith, even some of the sillier westerns, such as
> "Pancho
> > VIlla" with Telly Savalas and Clint Walker. Though tonight, they'll be
> > airing "Almost Heroes" with Chris Farley and Matthew Perry. That shall go
> > unseen by me. I just learned that they're going to reshuffle their usual
> > lineup of series aired in July, and one of the newbies coming in is
> :Lawman"
> > with John Russell. It's sorta like "Gunsmoke" without the huge supporting
> > cast. I'm looking forward to that.
> >
> > On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Keith Johnson wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you watch on the Encore Westerns channel?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:19:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith, it's that scattershot approach to programming that makes me pick
> and
> > > choose what I view. I'm not on any one channel consistently -- no, I do
> stay
> > > on Encore Westerns a lot more than others.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Keith Johnson  ...>wrote:
>
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you
> > >> look at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what
> they
> > >> stand for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and
> Kids",
> > >> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no
> longer
> > >> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> > >> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply...
> > >>
> > >> To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all
> good
> > >> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap."
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson 
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif?
> They
> > >>> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away,
> to be
> > >>> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will
> generate
> > >>> better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling
> block on
> > >>> Friday nights? I just don't get this...
> > >>>
> > >>> ***
> > >>>
> > >>>
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
> > >>> Syfy's Wrestling Upgrade: `SmackDown' on Fridays
> > >>> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM
> > >>> *Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling* fans on Friday nights with
> > >>> the fall launch of World Wrestling Entertainment's popular *Friday
> Night
> > >>> SmackDown*, newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet.
> > >>>
> > >>> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series — which migrates from
> broadcast
> > >>> network MyNetworkTV — beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot
> on
> > >>> Fridays that had been home to Syfy's original series.
> > >>>
> > >>> To make room for *SmackDown*, Syfy will move original franchises such
> as
> > >>> *Caprica *and *Sanctuary*, which had aired on "Syfy Friday," to
> Tuesday
> > >>> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will
> leave the
> > >>> network's schedule in October.
> > >>> *
> > >>> WWE NXT* — formerly *ECW *— has averaged 1.4 million viewers since
> > >>> launching last month. *Friday Night SmackDown* averages more than 3.4
> > >>> million viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most
> popular WWE
> > >>> franchise behind USA Network's *WWE Monday Night Raw*.
> > >>>
> > >>> "I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already
> have
> > >>> and bring in a bigger WWE franchise — *SmackDown *being the second
> > >>> biggest after *Raw*," Syfy president Dave Howe said. "*SmackDown
> *attracts
> > >>> a bigger, more family oriented audience, so it's more helpful in
> terms of
> > >>> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule."
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY*
> > >>> Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals
> than
> > >>> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing.
> Freshman
> > >>> origin

[scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-17 Thread B Smith
I like Encore Westerns too. They even trot out some of the better non-Leone 
spaghetti westerns from time to time. 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter  wrote:
>
> Almost everything, Keith, even some of the sillier westerns, such as "Pancho
> VIlla" with Telly Savalas and Clint Walker. Though tonight, they'll be
> airing "Almost Heroes" with Chris Farley and Matthew Perry. That shall go
> unseen by me. I just learned that they're going to reshuffle their usual
> lineup of series aired in July, and one of the newbies coming in is :Lawman"
> with John Russell. It's sorta like "Gunsmoke" without the huge supporting
> cast. I'm looking forward to that.
> 
> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:22 AM, Keith Johnson wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > What do you watch on the Encore Westerns channel?
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 6:19:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?
> >
> >
> >
> > Keith, it's that scattershot approach to programming that makes me pick and
> > choose what I view. I'm not on any one channel consistently -- no, I do stay
> > on Encore Westerns a lot more than others.
> >
> > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you
> >> look at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they
> >> stand for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and 
> >> Kids",
> >> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer
> >> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be...
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> >> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> >> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply...
> >>
> >> To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good
> >> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap."
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They
> >>> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be
> >>> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate
> >>> better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block 
> >>> on
> >>> Friday nights? I just don't get this...
> >>>
> >>> ***
> >>>
> >>> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
> >>> Syfy's Wrestling Upgrade: `SmackDown' on Fridays
> >>> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM
> >>>   *Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling* fans on Friday nights with
> >>> the fall launch of World Wrestling Entertainment's popular *Friday Night
> >>> SmackDown*, newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet.
> >>>
> >>> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series — which migrates from broadcast
> >>> network MyNetworkTV — beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on
> >>> Fridays that had been home to Syfy's original series.
> >>>
> >>> To make room for *SmackDown*, Syfy will move original franchises such as
> >>> *Caprica *and *Sanctuary*, which had aired on "Syfy Friday," to Tuesday
> >>> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave 
> >>> the
> >>> network's schedule in October.
> >>> *
> >>> WWE NXT* — formerly *ECW *— has averaged 1.4 million viewers since
> >>> launching last month. *Friday Night SmackDown* averages more than 3.4
> >>> million viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular 
> >>> WWE
> >>> franchise behind USA Network's *WWE Monday Night Raw*.
> >>>
> >>> "I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have
> >>> and bring in a bigger WWE franchise — *SmackDown *being the second
> >>> biggest after *Raw*," Syfy president Dave Howe said. "*SmackDown *attracts
> >>> a bigger, more family oriented audience, so it's more helpful in terms of
> >>> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY*
> >>> Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than
> >>> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman
> >>> original series* Warehouse 13*, for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8
> >>> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights.
> >>>
> >>> Howe hasn't totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted
> >>> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot.
> >>>
> >>> "We still have Fridays at 10, so what we're aiming to do is use *SmackDown
> >>> *as a springboard to launch new sh

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-15 Thread Keith Johnson
Yeah it's maddening. I didn't get the rise-and-fall of "Chocolate News", which 
was a damn site better than a lot of those standup performances that Comedy 
Central often broadcasts late night. As for Donahue, it wasn't just the 
advertisers' lack of support. The bosses at MSNBC ran scared from Day One with 
his show, actually *ordering* him to feature two conservative guests for every 
liberal guest he had on his show. They were always on him about not appearing 
disloyal, not attacking the president, and in time they just wanted him gone. 
He--along with the truth, common sense, and common decency--is another victim 
of those horrible post-9/11 years where fear ruled this country. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Kelwyn"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:16:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 






Of course it is about profits. At the advent of the cable age we were promised 
a thousand channels appealing to a thousand different constituencies. A 
different slice for everybody. What we got is extreme narrow casting, a 
thousand channels all showing L&O reruns. 

A major fly in this ointment is advertising. Advertisers decide content by what 
programs they will financially support. 

Faux News is profitable way beyond their number of viewers. 

Phil Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC but was cancelled because 
advertisers would not support his show. 

David Alan Grier's "Chocolate News" ranked first in all television among men 
18-24 and number one in cable viewers among males ages 18-34. Wouldn't you 
think advertisers would want to reach viewers in that valued demographic? 
Wouldn't you think Spike would be interested in picking up a show that appealed 
to that demographic? 

Nah. 

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> 
> Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you look 
> at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they stand 
> for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and Kids", 
> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer 
> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be... 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Baxter"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply... 
> 
> To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good 
> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap." 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They 
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be 
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate better 
> viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on Friday 
> nights? I just don't get this... 
> 
> *** 
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
>  
> Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays 
> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM 
> 
> 
> Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the fall 
> launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night SmackDown , 
> newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet. 
> 
> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from broadcast 
> network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on 
> Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series. 
> 
> To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as 
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,� to Tuesday 
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the 
> network’s schedule in October. 
> 
> WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since launching 
> last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million viewers a 
> week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE franchise behind 
> USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw . 
> 
> “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have 
> and bring in a bigger

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-15 Thread Mr. Worf
Chocolate News was hilarious! I don't think that it could have appeared on
any other network but comedy central but they have a bad rep for keeping
good shows too.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> Of course it is about profits.  At the advent of the cable age we were
> promised a thousand channels appealing to a thousand different
> constituencies.  A different slice for everybody.  What we got is extreme
> narrow casting, a thousand channels all showing L&O reruns.
>
> A major fly in this ointment is advertising.  Advertisers decide content by
> what programs they will financially support.
>
> Faux News is profitable way beyond their number of viewers.
>
> Phil Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC but was cancelled because
> advertisers would not support his show.
>
> David Alan Grier's "Chocolate News" ranked first in all television among
> men 18-24 and number one in cable viewers among males ages 18-34.  Wouldn't
> you think advertisers would want to reach viewers in that valued
> demographic?  Wouldn't you think Spike would be interested in picking up a
> show that appealed to that demographic?
>
> Nah.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you
> look at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they
> stand for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and Kids",
> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer
> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be...
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply...
> >
> > To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good
> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap."
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate
> better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on
> Friday nights? I just don't get this...
> >
> > ***
> >
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
> > Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays
> > By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM
> >
> >
> > Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the
> fall launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night
> SmackDown , newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet.
> >
> > Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from
> broadcast network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m.
> slot on Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series.
> >
> > To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,† to Tuesday
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the
> network’s schedule in October.
> >
> > WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since
> launching last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million
> viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE
> franchise behind USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw .
> >
> > “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already
> have and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second
> biggest after Raw ,† Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts
> a bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.â€
> >
> > ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY
> > Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than
> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman
> original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8
> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights.
> >
> > Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted
> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot.
> >
> > “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use
> SmackDown as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats
> of our scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown
> audience across our schedule,† he said.
> >
> > WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations† with other
> distribu

[scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-15 Thread Kelwyn
Of course it is about profits.  At the advent of the cable age we were promised 
a thousand channels appealing to a thousand different constituencies.  A 
different slice for everybody.  What we got is extreme narrow casting, a 
thousand channels all showing L&O reruns.  

A major fly in this ointment is advertising.  Advertisers decide content by 
what programs they will financially support.  

Faux News is profitable way beyond their number of viewers.  

Phil Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC but was cancelled because 
advertisers would not support his show. 

David Alan Grier's "Chocolate News" ranked first in all television among men 
18-24 and number one in cable viewers among males ages 18-34.  Wouldn't you 
think advertisers would want to reach viewers in that valued demographic?  
Wouldn't you think Spike would be interested in picking up a show that appealed 
to that demographic?  

Nah.

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's just sad. But I guess it's all about profit. I mean, if you look 
> at some of the other cable networks, you really can't tell what they stand 
> for anymore. Reruns of "Law and Order", "Frasier", "My Wife and Kids", 
> "Cheers", "Supernatural", "Charmed", etc., abound. Often one can no longer 
> tell what the station's particular focus is supposed to be... 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Baxter"  
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:19:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Took me twenty seconds to shake off the shock before I could reply... 
> 
> To paraphrase one of the Founding Fathers, "Now is the time for all good 
> people to chip in and create a competitive network against this crap." 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@... > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They 
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be 
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate better 
> viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on Friday 
> nights? I just don't get this... 
> 
> *** 
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
>  
> Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays 
> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM 
> 
> 
> Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the fall 
> launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night SmackDown , 
> newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet. 
> 
> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from broadcast 
> network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on 
> Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series. 
> 
> To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as 
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,” to Tuesday 
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the 
> network’s schedule in October. 
> 
> WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since launching 
> last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million viewers a 
> week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE franchise behind 
> USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw . 
> 
> “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have 
> and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second biggest 
> after Raw ,” Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts a 
> bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of 
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.” 
> 
> ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY 
> Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than 
> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman 
> original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8 
> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights. 
> 
> Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted 
> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot. 
> 
> “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use SmackDown 
> as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats of our 
> scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown audience across 
> our schedule,” he said. 
> 
> WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations” with other 
> distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT . 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "If all the world's a stage and we are merely players, who the bloody hell 
> wrote the script?" -- Charles E Grant 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik
>




Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-14 Thread Mr. Worf
They are basically the Spike channel with more "science" sprinkled in.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> And it's probably the dumbest, most inane name change in history. You
> change the spelling, but the pronunciation remains the same, so you've
> accomplished nothing--other than find the slang term for V.D. Why didn't
> they go with something completely unrelated, like the "Beyond" they were
> first toying around with using? Anything that even remotely looks or sounds
> like "scifi" is just ridiculously misleading.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Kelwyn" 
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:48:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?
>
>
>
> The beginning of the end was when they changed the name to SyFy. They did
> this so they wouldn't be "restricted" by Sci-Fi programming.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith
> Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate
> better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on
> Friday nights? I just don't get this...
> >
> > ***
> >
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
> > Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays
> > By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM
> >
> >
> > Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the
> fall launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night
> SmackDown , newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet.
> >
> > Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from
> broadcast network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m.
> slot on Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series.
> >
> > To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,� to Tuesday
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the
> network’s schedule in October.
> >
> > WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since
> launching last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million
> viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE
> franchise behind USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw .
> >
> > “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already
> have and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second
> biggest after Raw ,� Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts
> a bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.�
> >
> > ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY
> > Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than
> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman
> original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8
> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights.
> >
> > Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted
> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot.
> >
> > “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use
> SmackDown as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats
> of our scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown
> audience across our schedule,� he said.
> >
> > WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations� with other
> distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT .
> >
>
>
>
> 
>



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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-14 Thread Keith Johnson
And it's probably the dumbest, most inane name change in history. You change 
the spelling, but the pronunciation remains the same, so you've accomplished 
nothing--other than find the slang term for V.D. Why didn't they go with 
something completely unrelated, like the "Beyond" they were first toying around 
with using? Anything that even remotely looks or sounds like "scifi" is just 
ridiculously misleading. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Kelwyn"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:48:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling? 






The beginning of the end was when they changed the name to SyFy. They did this 
so they wouldn't be "restricted" by Sci-Fi programming. 

~(no)rave! 

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson  wrote: 
> 
> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They 
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be 
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate better 
> viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on Friday 
> nights? I just don't get this... 
> 
> *** 
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
>  
> Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays 
> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM 
> 
> 
> Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the fall 
> launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night SmackDown , 
> newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet. 
> 
> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from broadcast 
> network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on 
> Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series. 
> 
> To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as 
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,� to Tuesday 
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the 
> network’s schedule in October. 
> 
> WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since launching 
> last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million viewers a 
> week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE franchise behind 
> USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw . 
> 
> “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have 
> and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second biggest 
> after Raw ,� Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts a 
> bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of 
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.� 
> 
> ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY 
> Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than 
> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman 
> original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8 
> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights. 
> 
> Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted 
> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot. 
> 
> “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use SmackDown 
> as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats of our 
> scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown audience across 
> our schedule,� he said. 
> 
> WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations� with other 
> distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT . 
> 




Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-14 Thread Martin Baxter
A sad ray of truth, Mr Worf. [?]

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Mr. Worf  wrote:

>
>
> To be honest, there aren't that many actual scifi shows that they have
> left. They may as well rename the channel to the "Miscellaneous" channel.
>
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:
>
>> The beginning of the end was when they changed the name to SyFy.  They
>>  did this so they wouldn't be "restricted" by Sci-Fi programming.
>>
>> ~(no)rave!
>>
>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif?
>> They claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to
>> be replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate
>> better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on
>> Friday nights? I just don't get this...
>> >
>> > ***
>> >
>> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
>> > Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays
>> > By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the
>> fall launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night
>> SmackDown , newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet.
>> >
>> > Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from
>> broadcast network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m.
>> slot on Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series.
>> >
>> > To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as
>> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,† to Tuesday
>> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the
>> network’s schedule in October.
>> >
>> > WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since
>> launching last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million
>> viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE
>> franchise behind USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw .
>> >
>> > “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already
>> have and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second
>> biggest after Raw ,† Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts
>> a bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of
>> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.â€
>> >
>> > ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY
>> > Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals
>> than Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing.
>> Freshman original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh
>> 3.8 million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights.
>> >
>> > Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted
>> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot.
>> >
>> > “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use
>> SmackDown as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats
>> of our scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown
>> audience across our schedule,† he said.
>> >
>> > WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations† with other
>> distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT .
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-14 Thread Mr. Worf
To be honest, there aren't that many actual scifi shows that they have left.
They may as well rename the channel to the "Miscellaneous" channel.

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Kelwyn  wrote:

> The beginning of the end was when they changed the name to SyFy.  They  did
> this so they wouldn't be "restricted" by Sci-Fi programming.
>
> ~(no)rave!
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate
> better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on
> Friday nights? I just don't get this...
> >
> > ***
> >
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
> > Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays
> > By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM
> >
> >
> > Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the
> fall launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night
> SmackDown , newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet.
> >
> > Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from
> broadcast network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m.
> slot on Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series.
> >
> > To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,† to Tuesday
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the
> network’s schedule in October.
> >
> > WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since
> launching last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million
> viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE
> franchise behind USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw .
> >
> > “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already
> have and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second
> biggest after Raw ,† Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts
> a bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.â€
> >
> > ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY
> > Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than
> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman
> original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8
> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights.
> >
> > Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted
> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot.
> >
> > “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use
> SmackDown as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats
> of our scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown
> audience across our schedule,† he said.
> >
> > WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations† with other
> distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT .
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Post your SciFiNoir Profile at
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo!
> Groups Links
>
>
>
>


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[scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-14 Thread B Smith
Smackdown gets bigger ratings but in exchange they kill their original 
programming lineup. You'd think they would at least use it as a lead in for one 
of their Friday shows.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn"  wrote:
>
> The beginning of the end was when they changed the name to SyFy.  They  did 
> this so they wouldn't be "restricted" by Sci-Fi programming.
> 
> ~(no)rave!
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They 
> > claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be 
> > replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate 
> > better viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block 
> > on Friday nights? I just don't get this... 
> > 
> > *** 
> > http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
> >  
> > Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays 
> > By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM 
> > 
> > 
> > Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the fall 
> > launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night SmackDown 
> > , newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet. 
> > 
> > Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from broadcast 
> > network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on 
> > Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series. 
> > 
> > To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as 
> > Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,” to Tuesday 
> > nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the 
> > network’s schedule in October. 
> > 
> > WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since 
> > launching last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million 
> > viewers a week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE 
> > franchise behind USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw . 
> > 
> > “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have 
> > and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second biggest 
> > after Raw ,” Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts a 
> > bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of 
> > cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.” 
> > 
> > ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY 
> > Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than 
> > Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman 
> > original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8 
> > million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights. 
> > 
> > Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted 
> > series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot. 
> > 
> > “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use 
> > SmackDown as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats 
> > of our scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown 
> > audience across our schedule,” he said. 
> > 
> > WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations” with other 
> > distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT .
> >
>




[scifinoir2] Re: WTF--SyFy Fridays Changing to Wrestling?

2010-05-14 Thread Kelwyn
The beginning of the end was when they changed the name to SyFy.  They  did 
this so they wouldn't be "restricted" by Sci-Fi programming.

~(no)rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson  wrote:
>
> Well, how much more does SyFy plan to get away from the scifi motif? They 
> claim it's a zero-sum gain, since one wrestling show is going away, to be 
> replaced by another, and since they claim Tuesday nights will generate better 
> viewership. But this is utter bullcrap. A two hour wrestling block on Friday 
> nights? I just don't get this... 
> 
> *** 
> http://www.multichannel.com/article/451611-Syfy_s_Wrestling_Upgrade_SmackDown_on_Fridays.php
>  
> Syfy’s Wrestling Upgrade: ‘SmackDown’ on Fridays 
> By Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 4/19/2010 12:01:00 AM 
> 
> 
> Syfy hopes to pin down young wrestling fans on Friday nights with the fall 
> launch of World Wrestling Entertainment’s popular Friday Night SmackDown , 
> newly acquired by the NBC Universal outlet. 
> 
> Syfy will air the two-hour, weekly series â€" which migrates from broadcast 
> network MyNetworkTV â€" beginning Oct. 1, during the 8 to 10 p.m. slot on 
> Fridays that had been home to Syfy’s original series. 
> 
> To make room for SmackDown , Syfy will move original franchises such as 
> Caprica and Sanctuary , which had aired on “Syfy Friday,” to Tuesday 
> nights.Th ey replace wrestling reality series WWE NXT, which will leave the 
> network’s schedule in October. 
> 
> WWE NXT â€" formerly ECW â€" has averaged 1.4 million viewers since launching 
> last month. Friday Night SmackDown averages more than 3.4 million viewers a 
> week on MyNetworkTV, making it the second most popular WWE franchise behind 
> USA Network’s WWE Monday Night Raw . 
> 
> “I think this is a fantastic opportunity to upgrade what we already have 
> and bring in a bigger WWE franchise â€" SmackDown being the second biggest 
> after Raw ,” Syfy president Dave Howe said. “ SmackDown attracts a 
> bigger, more family oriented audience, so it’s more helpful in terms of 
> cross-promotion with the rest of the schedule.” 
> 
> ORIGINALS MOVE TO TUESDAY 
> Howe said Tuesdays will provide greater exposure for those originals than 
> Fridays, typically a slower night in terms of television viewing. Freshman 
> original series Warehouse 13 , for example, averaged a networkhigh 3.8 
> million total viewers last summer on Tuesday nights. 
> 
> Howe hasn’t totally ruled out the possibility of launching a scripted 
> series in the Friday 10 p.m. time slot. 
> 
> “We still have Fridays at 10, so what we’re aiming to do is use SmackDown 
> as a springboard to launch new shows on Friday, or put in repeats of our 
> scripted shows so that we can continue to grow that SmackDown audience across 
> our schedule,” he said. 
> 
> WWE officials are said to be “currently in negotiations” with other 
> distributors regarding future carriage of WWE NXT .
>