Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
(standing ovation) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:04:25 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I never believed the worst in racism was over. I never believed we were post-racial, or anything close to it. As someone who's had some good opportunities in life, i've known personally that every advance can still be sullied by the hatred of those around you. The very nasty comments directed at Obama during the campaign--the way the xenophobia, Christian fundamentalism hatred, and unfair labeling of Michelle Obama as a militant abounded--is proof of that. The way Palin was able to lead a hatred-based attack on him, and even McCain didn't stop it unti it was too obvious to ignore, is proof of that. The fact that anyone with enough brain power to blink their eyes actually defended Limbaugh's Powell only voted for Obama because he's black and I hope he fails comments shows we haven't progressed that far. We believe America is past its racial problems at our peril. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:15:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I hear you, Mr Worf. And I remember when, in the aftermath of President Obama's victory, so many of us said in accord that the worst was far from behind us in terms of racism. Still, terrifying to look at it in such scope and intensity. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:59:28 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
Keith, that might be for the best. Were I in Presdient Obama's shoes right now, facing this, I'd have the Secret Service chasing some folks down. And Free Report's web site would be a fond memory. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:50:40 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Well, there goes your chance to run for the White House--again! :) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:46:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:32:25 -0400 From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. Don't let them ruin your day. _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=n f http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
Thanks, Martin. If I can say that wisdom comes from mistakes and hindsight, then I'll accept your compliment gracefully. I used to do just that...let them get to me...then one day someone much wiser than I pointed out that spending time trying to change what someone thinks or feels about me was a fool's errand, and a waste of good energy...which is what we all are anyway...energy... Ever since then, when I've had the VERY male human reaction to want to cut off the balls of people who judge me (us) from their limited perspective, I take a breath and curtail the thoughts... :o) _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:40 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:32:25 -0400 From : Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. Don't let them ruin your day. _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n f http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
but Reece, take it from me. cutting off a ball or two fromthe crazies, it is such good therapy! :-) Fate. --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:47 AM Thanks, Martin. If I can say that wisdom comes from mistakes and hindsight, then I'll accept your compliment gracefully. I used to do just that...let them get to me...then one day someone much wiser than I pointed out that spending time trying to change what someone thinks or feels about me was a fool's errand, and a waste of good energy...which is what we all are anyway...energy. .. Ever since then, when I've had the VERY male human reaction to want to cut off the balls of people who judge me (us) from their limited perspective, I take a breath and curtail the thoughts... :o) From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:40 AM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:32:25 -0400 From : Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. Don't let them ruin your day. _ From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : Bham_Meet_N_ gr...@yahoogroup s.com, The_Zetaheaven_ gr...@yahoogroup s.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook .com/ext/ share.php? sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n f http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Maybe that's why it jumped into my head when I was writing!!! _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Augustus Augustus Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:32 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? but Reece, take it from me. cutting off a ball or two fromthe crazies, it is such good therapy! :-) Fate. --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 10:47 AM Thanks, Martin. If I can say that wisdom comes from mistakes and hindsight, then I'll accept your compliment gracefully. I used to do just that...let them get to me...then one day someone much wiser than I pointed out that spending time trying to change what someone thinks or feels about me was a fool's errand, and a waste of good energy...which is what we all are anyway...energy. .. Ever since then, when I've had the VERY male human reaction to want to cut off the balls of people who judge me (us) from their limited perspective, I take a breath and curtail the thoughts... :o) _ From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:40 AM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? What a wise, wonderful man you are, Reece. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:32:25 -0400 From : Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. Don't let them ruin your day. _ From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : Bham_Meet_N_ gr...@yahoogroup s.com, The_Zetaheaven_ gr...@yahoogroup s.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook .com/ext/ share.php? sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n f http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
ha! - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:13:52 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Keith, that might be for the best. Were I in Presdient Obama's shoes right now, facing this, I'd have the Secret Service chasing some folks down. And Free Report's web site would be a fond memory. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:50:40 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Well, there goes your chance to run for the White House--again! :) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:46:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
I hear you, Mr Worf. And I remember when, in the aftermath of President Obama's victory, so many of us said in accord that the worst was far from behind us in terms of racism. Still, terrifying to look at it in such scope and intensity. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:59:28 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
Those stages do not take into account racism complicated by Obama Derangement Syndrome. Sigh…. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 3:59 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206 http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf amp;h=Wq46xamp;u=HJmBoamp;ref=nf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin?
Just remember those time-honored words...F**K them... They're entitled to their opinions, but we don't have to react to them. Don't let them ruin your day. _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:47 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=n f http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Well, there goes your chance to run for the White House--again! :) - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:46:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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I never believed the worst in racism was over. I never believed we were post-racial, or anything close to it. As someone who's had some good opportunities in life, i've known personally that every advance can still be sullied by the hatred of those around you. The very nasty comments directed at Obama during the campaign--the way the xenophobia, Christian fundamentalism hatred, and unfair labeling of Michelle Obama as a militant abounded--is proof of that. The way Palin was able to lead a hatred-based attack on him, and even McCain didn't stop it unti it was too obvious to ignore, is proof of that. The fact that anyone with enough brain power to blink their eyes actually defended Limbaugh's Powell only voted for Obama because he's black and I hope he fails comments shows we haven't progressed that far. We believe America is past its racial problems at our peril. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:15:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? I hear you, Mr Worf. And I remember when, in the aftermath of President Obama's victory, so many of us said in accord that the worst was far from behind us in terms of racism. Still, terrifying to look at it in such scope and intensity. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:59:28 -0700 From : Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com What I think is going on is that this is a stage of grief. The stages are denial, anger, depression, and acceptance.We are at the anger stage. It takes some people longer to move through the rest of those stages. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: I was in a bad mood when I walked in the door. This did not help. Not for the first time in my life, I am NOT proud to be an American. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Question: When does the hate stop and human decency begin? Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:21:05 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : bham_meet_n_gr...@yahoogroups.com, the_zetaheaven_gr...@yahoogroups.com Hate to post this, but I found this from a Princeton professor friend of mine. http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=101100539206h=Wq46xu=HJmBoref=nf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
