RE: [scifinoir2] OT: Family Guy Ep on Down Syndrome Child Angers Palen
I'm with you entirely, Keith. And this stands as another example of what the anti-PC atmosphere will always generate. Writers like that won't get the pain that the barb inflicts until they get barbed in like fashion. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 04:36:28 + Subject: [scifinoir2] OT: Family Guy Ep on Down Syndrome Child Angers Palen I have to say I get her being offended/pissed at this one. It is directed straight at her, with the former governor of Alaska comment. If it were me, I'd be ticked. And understand this: I think Palin is an opportunistic, narrow-minded, prejudiced, self-righteous, empty-headed, petty person who tries to manipulate men and women alike with a wink and a smile, meaningless repetitive scripted speeches, and a overdone play as being just a normal American. So no love for Palin from me. I do get, though, how this could steam her. Were it being pointed at my son or daughter, I'd be pissed. But on the other hand, this also slightly reeks of the late Isaac Hayes' hypocrisy for getting pissed at the Southpark guys for lampooning Scientology. All the irreverent, tasteless, cruel, sexist/racist things Southpark had done over the years, Hayes participated in, yet he drew the line at Scientology? Likewise, how often has Palin attacked Family Guy or other programs on behalf of women, people of color, the poor, etc., when such have been portrayed in satire? The lady barely tackles Limbaugh, but up in arms on this? She has a right to be upset, yeah, but spare me the selective righteous outrage from a lady who felt perfectly comfortable calling Obama a terrorist, and using not-too-subtle language that the real America was only to be found among white, rural towns. Go 'way Sarah, please! - Original Message - From: Cinque3000 cinque3...@verizon.net To: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Cc: tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com, dar...@darylelockhart.com, afrikanm...@hotmail.com, bettil...@msn.com, duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, jeffreypbal...@gmail.com, killa...@gmail.com, imke...@gmail.com, seriousnup...@yahoo.com, logic1...@aol.com, truthseeker...@icqmail.com, mmb1...@gmail.com, michael v w gordon michael.v.w.gor...@gmail.com, ravena...@yahoo.com, rs...@yahoo.com, everything...@nyc.rr.com, valeryjea...@yahoo.com, wendellsmit...@gmail.com, sonofafieldne...@sbcglobal.net, williamsf...@speakeasy.net, beta...@yahoo.com, dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, kalpub...@aol.com, Albert Fields cbilmarket...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:19:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Palin, daughter lash out at 'Family Guy' episode Palin, daughter lash out at 'Family Guy' episode AP – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks before the NASCAR Daytona 500 auto race at Daytona International … By BECKY BOHRER, Associated Press Writer Becky Bohrer, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 8 mins ago JUNEAU, Alaska – Sarah Palin is lashing out at the portrayal of a character with Down syndrome on the Fox animated comedy Family Guy. In a Facebook posting headlined Fox Hollywood — What a Disappointment, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee and current Fox News contributor said Sunday night's episode felt like another kick in the gut. Palin's youngest son, Trig, has Down syndrome. The episode features the character Chris falling for a girl with Down syndrome. On a date, he asks what her parents do. She replies: My dad's an accountant, and my mom is the former governor of Alaska. Palin resigned as Alaska governor last summer. Palin's oldest daughter, Bristol, also was quoted on her mother's Facebook page, calling the show's writers heartless jerks. When you're the son or daughter of a public figure, you have to develop thick skin. My siblings and I all have that, but insults directed at our youngest brother hurt too much for us to remain silent, she is quoted as saying. If the writers of a particularly pathetic cartoon show thought they were being clever in mocking my brother and my family yesterday, they failed, Bristol Palin added in the Monday posting. All they proved is that they're heartless jerks. Palin wrote that she'd asked her daughter what she thought of the show and Bristol's reply was a much more restrained and gracious statement than I want to make about an issue that begs the question: When is enough enough? This isn't the first time Palin has spoken out over an attack, real or perceived, on her family. Last year, she condemned a joke David Letterman made about her daughter, for which he later apologized. A Family Guy publicist didn't immediately return an e-mail seeking comment.
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Family Guy Ep on Down Syndrome Child Angers Palen
I watched that episode last night. I knew that they would get some crap for that quote. I think the point that they were trying to make is although we may feel sorry for people with disabilities the Palin's are still assholes. Can you imagine how wacky things would have been by now if they had won? On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I have to say I get her being offended/pissed at this one. It is directed straight at her, with the former governor of Alaska comment. If it were me, I'd be ticked. And understand this: I think Palin is an opportunistic, narrow-minded, prejudiced, self-righteous, empty-headed, petty person who tries to manipulate men and women alike with a wink and a smile, meaningless repetitive scripted speeches, and a overdone play as being just a normal American. So no love for Palin from me. I do get, though, how this could steam her. Were it being pointed at my son or daughter, I'd be pissed. But on the other hand, this also slightly reeks of the late Isaac Hayes' hypocrisy for getting pissed at the Southpark guys for lampooning Scientology. All the irreverent, tasteless, cruel, sexist/racist things Southpark had done over the years, Hayes participated in, yet he drew the line at Scientology? Likewise, how often has Palin attacked Family Guy or other programs on behalf of women, people of color, the poor, etc., when such have been portrayed in satire? The lady barely tackles Limbaugh, but up in arms on this? She has a right to be upset, yeah, but spare me the selective righteous outrage from a lady who felt perfectly comfortable calling Obama a terrorist, and using not-too-subtle language that the real America was only to be found among white, rural towns. Go 'way Sarah, please! - Original Message - From: Cinque3000 cinque3...@verizon.net To: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Cc: tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com, dar...@darylelockhart.com, afrikanm...@hotmail.com, bettil...@msn.com, duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, jeffreypbal...@gmail.com, killa...@gmail.com, imke...@gmail.com, seriousnup...@yahoo.com, logic1...@aol.com, truthseeker...@icqmail.com, mmb1...@gmail.com, michael v w gordon michael.v.w.gor...@gmail.com, ravena...@yahoo.com, rs...@yahoo.com, everything...@nyc.rr.com, valeryjea...@yahoo.com, wendellsmit...@gmail.com, sonofafieldne...@sbcglobal.net, williamsf...@speakeasy.net, beta...@yahoo.com, dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, kalpub...@aol.com, Albert Fields cbilmarket...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:19:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Palin, daughter lash out at 'Family Guy' episode *Palin, daughter lash out at 'Family Guy' episode* [image: AP]http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/brand/SIG=11f589428/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ap.org%2Ftermsandconditions [image: Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks before the NASCAR Daytona 500 auto race at]http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Alaska-Gov-Sarah-Palin-Daytona-International-Speedway-NASCAR-Daytona-500/photo/100214/483/9425c36ff8e447eca5a8e803a2b33140/s:/ap/20100217/ap_on_en_tv/us_palin_family_guy *AP – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks before the NASCAR Daytona 500 auto race at Daytona International … * *By BECKY BOHRER, Associated Press Writer **Becky Bohrer, Associated Press Writer** *– 2 hrs 8 mins ago JUNEAU, Alaska – Sarah Palin is lashing out at the portrayal of a character with Down syndrome on the Fox animated comedy Family Guy. In a Facebook posting headlined Fox Hollywood — What a Disappointment, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee and current Fox News contributor said Sunday night's episode felt like another kick in the gut. Palin's youngest son, Trig, has Down syndrome. The episode features the character Chris falling for a girl with Down syndrome. On a date, he asks what her parents do. She replies: My dad's an accountant, and my mom is the former governor of Alaska. Palin resigned as Alaska governor last summer. Palin's oldest daughter, Bristol, also was quoted on her mother's Facebook page, calling the show's writers heartless jerks. When you're the son or daughter of a public figure, you have to develop thick skin. My siblings and I all have that, but insults directed at our youngest brother hurt too much for us to remain silent, she is quoted as saying. If the writers of a particularly pathetic cartoon show thought they were being clever in mocking my brother and my family yesterday, they failed, Bristol Palin added in the Monday posting. All they proved is that they're heartless jerks. Palin wrote that she'd asked her daughter what she thought of the show and Bristol's reply was a much more restrained and gracious statement than I want to make about an issue that begs the question: When is enough enough? This isn't the first time Palin has spoken out over an attack, real or perceived, on her family. Last year, she
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Family Guy Ep on Down Syndrome Child Angers Palen
I truly shudder at the thought of McCain winning. I frankly wonder if the rigors of presidency would have proven too much for McCain, and we'd be talking about President Palin at this point. And this is really wild, but Palin as Prez frightens me more than Cheney in the same role. Cheney is a martinet and autocrat, but at least at lot of what he is would be focused on his nutty overseas policies and creating a gestapo state. Bad, yes, but Palin would do all that and bring a measure of pettiness, personal grudges, and prejudice that would set us back generations. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:47:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Family Guy Ep on Down Syndrome Child Angers Palen I watched that episode last night. I knew that they would get some crap for that quote. I think the point that they were trying to make is although we may feel sorry for people with disabilities the Palin's are still assholes. Can you imagine how wacky things would have been by now if they had won? On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I have to say I get her being offended/pissed at this one. It is directed straight at her, with the former governor of Alaska comment. If it were me, I'd be ticked. And understand this: I think Palin is an opportunistic, narrow-minded, prejudiced, self-righteous, empty-headed, petty person who tries to manipulate men and women alike with a wink and a smile, meaningless repetitive scripted speeches, and a overdone play as being just a normal American. So no love for Palin from me. I do get, though, how this could steam her. Were it being pointed at my son or daughter, I'd be pissed. But on the other hand, this also slightly reeks of the late Isaac Hayes' hypocrisy for getting pissed at the Southpark guys for lampooning Scientology. All the irreverent, tasteless, cruel, sexist/racist things Southpark had done over the years, Hayes participated in, yet he drew the line at Scientology? Likewise, how often has Palin attacked Family Guy or other programs on behalf of women, people of color, the poor, etc., when such have been portrayed in satire? The lady barely tackles Limbaugh, but up in arms on this? She has a right to be upset, yeah, but spare me the selective righteous outrage from a lady who felt perfectly comfortable calling Obama a terrorist, and using not-too-subtle language that the real America was only to be found among white, rural towns. Go 'way Sarah, please! - Original Message - From: Cinque3000 cinque3...@verizon.net To: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Cc: tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com , dar...@darylelockhart.com , afrikanm...@hotmail.com , bettil...@msn.com , duva...@hotmail.com , fis...@bellsouth.net , jeffreypbal...@gmail.com , killa...@gmail.com , imke...@gmail.com , seriousnup...@yahoo.com , logic1...@aol.com , truthseeker...@icqmail.com , mmb1...@gmail.com , michael v w gordon michael.v.w.gor...@gmail.com , ravena...@yahoo.com , rs...@yahoo.com , everything...@nyc.rr.com , valeryjea...@yahoo.com , wendellsmit...@gmail.com , sonofafieldne...@sbcglobal.net , williamsf...@speakeasy.net , beta...@yahoo.com , dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net , kalpub...@aol.com , Albert Fields cbilmarket...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:19:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Palin, daughter lash out at 'Family Guy' episode Palin, daughter lash out at 'Family Guy' episode AP Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks before the NASCAR Daytona 500 auto race atAP – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks before the NASCAR Daytona 500 auto race at Daytona International … By BECKY BOHRER, Associated Press Writer Becky Bohrer, Associated Press Writer – 2 hrs 8 mins ago JUNEAU, Alaska – Sarah Palin is lashing out at the portrayal of a character with Down syndrome on the Fox animated comedy Family Guy . In a Facebook posting headlined Fox Hollywood — What a Disappointment, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee and current Fox News contributor said Sunday night's episode felt like another kick in the gut. Palin's youngest son, Trig, has Down syndrome. The episode features the character Chris falling for a girl with Down syndrome. On a date, he asks what her parents do. She replies: My dad's an accountant, and my mom is the former governor of Alaska. Palin resigned as Alaska governor last summer. Palin's oldest daughter, Bristol, also was quoted on her mother's Facebook page, calling the show's writers heartless jerks. When you're the son or daughter of a public figure, you have to develop thick skin. My siblings and I all have that, but insults directed at our youngest brother hurt too much for us to remain silent, she is quoted as saying. If the writers of a particularly
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Family Guy Ep on Down Syndrome Child Angers Palen
This brought up a topic idea that I had after watching the Watchmen movie. I couldn't help but think about how different the world would have been if each one of the loosing candidates won. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I truly shudder at the thought of McCain winning. I frankly wonder if the rigors of presidency would have proven too much for McCain, and we'd be talking about President Palin at this point. And this is really wild, but Palin as Prez frightens me more than Cheney in the same role. Cheney is a martinet and autocrat, but at least at lot of what he is would be focused on his nutty overseas policies and creating a gestapo state. Bad, yes, but Palin would do all that and bring a measure of pettiness, personal grudges, and prejudice that would set us back generations. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:47:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Family Guy Ep on Down Syndrome Child Angers Palen I watched that episode last night. I knew that they would get some crap for that quote. I think the point that they were trying to make is although we may feel sorry for people with disabilities the Palin's are still assholes. Can you imagine how wacky things would have been by now if they had won? On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I have to say I get her being offended/pissed at this one. It is directed straight at her, with the former governor of Alaska comment. If it were me, I'd be ticked. And understand this: I think Palin is an opportunistic, narrow-minded, prejudiced, self-righteous, empty-headed, petty person who tries to manipulate men and women alike with a wink and a smile, meaningless repetitive scripted speeches, and a overdone play as being just a normal American. So no love for Palin from me. I do get, though, how this could steam her. Were it being pointed at my son or daughter, I'd be pissed. But on the other hand, this also slightly reeks of the late Isaac Hayes' hypocrisy for getting pissed at the Southpark guys for lampooning Scientology. All the irreverent, tasteless, cruel, sexist/racist things Southpark had done over the years, Hayes participated in, yet he drew the line at Scientology? Likewise, how often has Palin attacked Family Guy or other programs on behalf of women, people of color, the poor, etc., when such have been portrayed in satire? The lady barely tackles Limbaugh, but up in arms on this? She has a right to be upset, yeah, but spare me the selective righteous outrage from a lady who felt perfectly comfortable calling Obama a terrorist, and using not-too-subtle language that the real America was only to be found among white, rural towns. Go 'way Sarah, please! - Original Message - From: Cinque3000 cinque3...@verizon.net To: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Cc: tdemorse...@multiculturaladvantage.com, dar...@darylelockhart.com, afrikanm...@hotmail.com, bettil...@msn.com, duva...@hotmail.com, fis...@bellsouth.net, jeffreypbal...@gmail.com, killa...@gmail.com, imke...@gmail.com, seriousnup...@yahoo.com, logic1...@aol.com, truthseeker...@icqmail.com, mmb1...@gmail.com, michael v w gordon michael.v.w.gor...@gmail.com, ravena...@yahoo.com, rs...@yahoo.com, everything...@nyc.rr.com, valeryjea...@yahoo.com, wendellsmit...@gmail.com, sonofafieldne...@sbcglobal.net, williamsf...@speakeasy.net, beta...@yahoo.com, dorothyh...@sbcglobal.net, kalpub...@aol.com, Albert Fields cbilmarket...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:19:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Palin, daughter lash out at 'Family Guy' episode *Palin, daughter lash out at 'Family Guy' episode* [image: AP]http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/brand/SIG=11f589428/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ap.org%2Ftermsandconditions [image: Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks before the NASCAR Daytona 500 auto race at]http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Alaska-Gov-Sarah-Palin-Daytona-International-Speedway-NASCAR-Daytona-500/photo/100214/483/9425c36ff8e447eca5a8e803a2b33140/s:/ap/20100217/ap_on_en_tv/us_palin_family_guy *AP – Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin speaks before the NASCAR Daytona 500 auto race at Daytona International … * *By BECKY BOHRER, Associated Press Writer **Becky Bohrer, Associated Press Writer** *– 2 hrs 8 mins ago JUNEAU, Alaska – Sarah Palin is lashing out at the portrayal of a character with Down syndrome on the Fox animated comedy Family Guy. In a Facebook posting headlined Fox Hollywood — What a Disappointment, the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee and current Fox Newscontributor said Sunday night's episode felt like another kick in the gut. Palin's youngest son, Trig, has Down syndrome. The episode features the character Chris falling for a girl with Down syndrome
