Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-11 Thread Mr. Worf
I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs
to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like
having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a
car.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

>
>
> After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not
> really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of
> those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even
> says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also,
> after three flicks,  I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me
> given the choices made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue
> too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster
> Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry
> about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit
> and less just movie versions.
> It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his
> weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad
> casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie.
>
>
> ***
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y
>
> Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed
> return with Fox
>
> Associated Press
>
> Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET
> [image: hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg]
>
> Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)
>BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another
> "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox.
>
> The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on
> the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour"
> director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand."
> South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins:
> Wolverine," which was released earlier this year.
>
> "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've
> been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan
> International Film Festival.
>
> "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the
> Australian actor who plays Wolverine.
>
> Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because
> they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said
> the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who
> struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures.
>
> He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing
> fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I
> have to say."
>
> "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the
> stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said.
>
> Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the
> American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean
> filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where
> directors must negotiate with studio executives.
>
> Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it
> in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility
> to help studios feel secure in their investments."
>
> Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual
> Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his
> adaptations of popular comic book series.
>
>
>
> 




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RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-11 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I’m with you.  I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men 
franchise.  They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many character, 
villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was diluted

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

 



I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to 
be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having 
someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. 

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:

 

After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really 
all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those 
flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much 
in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three 
flicks,  I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices 
made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers 
changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The 
energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry about the ability to make 
something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions.
It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak 
effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) 
makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie.

***
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y


Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men'


Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox


Associated Press

Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET


Error! Filename not specified.

Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)

BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" 
movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox.

The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the 
third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director 
Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South 
African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," 
which was released earlier this year.

"I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been 
talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan 
International Film Festival.

"I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian 
actor who plays Wolverine.

Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they 
allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the 
"X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle 
to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures.

He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, 
but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say."

"The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, 
if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said.

Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the 
American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean 
filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where 
directors must negotiate with studio executives.

Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it in 
the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility to 
help studios feel secure in their investments."

Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual 
Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his 
adaptations of popular comic book series. 

 

 




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Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-11 Thread Mr. Worf
This made me think that is what is happening with Heroes. Too many
characters with no sense (or a small sense) of direction. I would love to
see an actual hero team formed, and maybe some villains that try to take
over the world or do robberies. Something a little more comic book like.

Xmen has always been problematic I think. There are way too many people with
possibly interesting stories to follow in one film.

Making major character changes doesn't help.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  I’m with you.  I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men
> franchise.  They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many
> character, villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was
> diluted
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men
> Movies
>
>
>
>
>
> I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs
> to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like
> having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a
> car.
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not
> really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of
> those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even
> says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also,
> after three flicks,  I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me
> given the choices made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue
> too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster
> Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry
> about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit
> and less just movie versions.
> It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his
> weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad
> casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie.
>
>
> ***
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y
>  Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed
> return with Fox
>
> Associated Press
>
> Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET
>
> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>
> Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)
>
> BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men"
> movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox.
>
> The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on
> the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour"
> director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand."
> South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins:
> Wolverine," which was released earlier this year.
>
> "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've
> been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan
> International Film Festival.
>
> "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the
> Australian actor who plays Wolverine.
>
> Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because
> they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said
> the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who
> struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures.
>
> He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing
> fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I
> have to say."
>
> "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the
> stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said.
>
> Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the
> American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean
> filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where
> directors must negotiate with studio executives.
>
> Hollywood movie budgets

RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-11 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I agree, that is heroes’ weakness.   Good characters with abrupt deadend 
storylines and way to many bad characters who simply go away.  They started off 
with about 10 good characters, good, bad, or something else altogether.  While 
guest stars with short arcs are usually interesting.  They should have simply 
continued primarily focused on the main heroes.  Their approach causes me to 
disconnect from characters I used to love and marginalize the importance of 
some story arcs.

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

 



This made me think that is what is happening with Heroes. Too many characters 
with no sense (or a small sense) of direction. I would love to see an actual 
hero team formed, and maybe some villains that try to take over the world or do 
robberies. Something a little more comic book like. 

Xmen has always been problematic I think. There are way too many people with 
possibly interesting stories to follow in one film. 

Making major character changes doesn't help. 

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

I’m with you.  I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men 
franchise.  They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many character, 
villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was diluted

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

 



I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to 
be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having 
someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. 

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:

 

After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really 
all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those 
flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much 
in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three 
flicks,  I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices 
made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers 
changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The 
energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry about the ability to make 
something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions.
It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak 
effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) 
makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie.

***
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y


Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men'


Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox


Associated Press

Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET


Error! Filename not specified.

Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)

BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" 
movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox.

The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the 
third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director 
Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South 
African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," 
which was released earlier this year.

"I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been 
talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan 
International Film Festival.

"I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian 
actor who plays Wolverine.

Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they 
allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the 
"X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle 
to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures.

He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, 
but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say."

"The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, 
if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said.

Appearing at a p

Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-11 Thread Mr. Worf
Yea there was a lot of potential for cool story lines like black ops
missions with Monica, mob hits or other mayhem.

What happened to the female soldier that survived the explosion at the lab?

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:

>
>
>  I agree, that is heroes’ weakness.   Good characters with abrupt deadend
> storylines and way to many bad characters who simply go away.  They started
> off with about 10 good characters, good, bad, or something else altogether.
> While guest stars with short arcs are usually interesting.  They should have
> simply continued primarily focused on the main heroes.  Their approach
> causes me to disconnect from characters I used to love and marginalize the
> importance of some story arcs.
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09 PM
>
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men
> Movies
>
>
>
>
>
> This made me think that is what is happening with Heroes. Too many
> characters with no sense (or a small sense) of direction. I would love to
> see an actual hero team formed, and maybe some villains that try to take
> over the world or do robberies. Something a little more comic book like.
>
> Xmen has always been problematic I think. There are way too many people
> with possibly interesting stories to follow in one film.
>
> Making major character changes doesn't help.
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tracey de Morsella <
> tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I’m with you.  I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men
> franchise.  They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many
> character, villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was
> diluted
>
>
>
> *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Mr. Worf
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM
> *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men
> Movies
>
>
>
>
>
> I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs
> to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like
> having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a
> car.
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not
> really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of
> those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even
> says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also,
> after three flicks,  I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me
> given the choices made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue
> too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster
> Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry
> about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit
> and less just movie versions.
> It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his
> weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad
> casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie.
>
>
> ***
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y
>  Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed
> return with Fox
>
> Associated Press
>
> Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET
>
> *Error! Filename not specified.*
>
> Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)
>
> BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men"
> movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox.
>
> The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on
> the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour"
> director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand."
> South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins:
> Wolverine," which was released earlier this year.
>
> "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've
> been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea&#

RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-11 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Here is another one.  That invisible character played by the first doctor who 
in the new incarnation.   Seem to have relevance but disappeared never to return

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:38 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

 



Yea there was a lot of potential for cool story lines like black ops missions 
with Monica, mob hits or other mayhem. 

What happened to the female soldier that survived the explosion at the lab?

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

I agree, that is heroes’ weakness.   Good characters with abrupt deadend 
storylines and way to many bad characters who simply go away.  They started off 
with about 10 good characters, good, bad, or something else altogether.  While 
guest stars with short arcs are usually interesting.  They should have simply 
continued primarily focused on the main heroes.  Their approach causes me to 
disconnect from characters I used to love and marginalize the importance of 
some story arcs.

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09 PM


To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

 



This made me think that is what is happening with Heroes. Too many characters 
with no sense (or a small sense) of direction. I would love to see an actual 
hero team formed, and maybe some villains that try to take over the world or do 
robberies. Something a little more comic book like. 

Xmen has always been problematic I think. There are way too many people with 
possibly interesting stories to follow in one film. 

Making major character changes doesn't help. 

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tracey de Morsella 
 wrote:

 

I’m with you.  I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men 
franchise.  They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many character, 
villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was diluted

 

From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Worf
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

 



I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to 
be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having 
someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. 

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:

 

After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really 
all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those 
flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much 
in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three 
flicks,  I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices 
made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers 
changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The 
energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry about the ability to make 
something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions.
It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak 
effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) 
makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie.

***
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y


Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men'


Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox


Associated Press

Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET


Error! Filename not specified.

Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)

BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" 
movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox.

The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the 
third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director 
Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South 
African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," 
which was released earlier this year.

"I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been 
talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan 
International Film Festival.

"I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian 
actor w

Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-11 Thread Keith Johnson
True 

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Worf"  
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:48:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies 






I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to 
be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having 
someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. 


On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > 
wrote: 






After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really 
all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those 
flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much 
in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three 
flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices 
made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers 
changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The 
energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make 
something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. 
It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak 
effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) 
makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. 

*** 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y
 


Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' 
Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox 


Associated Press 

Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET 


hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg

Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan 
Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and has 
discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. 

The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the 
third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director 
Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South 
African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," 
which was released earlier this year. 

"I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been 
talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan 
International Film Festival. 

"I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian 
actor who plays Wolverine. 

Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they 
allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the 
"X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle 
to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. 

He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, 
but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say." 

"The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, 
if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. 

Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the 
American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean 
filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where 
directors must negotiate with studio executives. 

Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it in 
the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility to 
help studios feel secure in their investments." 

Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual 
Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his 
adaptations of popular comic book series. 






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Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-12 Thread George Arterberry
I agree unless the storyarch of Brotherhood of Evil Mutants,Dark Phonix and or 
Sentinals take over America and they return to the past. Anything else is a 
wasted effort.

--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Keith Johnson  wrote:

From: Keith Johnson 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 6:30 PM












 
 





  After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, 
I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind 
either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he 
even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, 
after three flicks,   I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me 
given the choices made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too 
young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark 
Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry about the 
ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just 
movie versions.
It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak 
effort in "Superman Returns" (overly
sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll
bring to a fourth X-Men movie.

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http://www.hollywoo dreporter. com/hr/content_ display/news/ e3i30e7feb16ddb0 
207ec91e06b9521c bc4?imw=Y


Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men'
Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox
Associated Press
Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET







Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)










BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another
"X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth
Century Fox.




The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but
passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman
Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that
film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood
made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was
released earlier this year.




"I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise.
I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South
Korea's Pusan International Film Festival.




"I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the
Australian actor who plays Wolverine.




Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies
because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through
entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of
mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is
about tolerance and social structures.




He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing
fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to
what I have to say."




"The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is —
the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition,"
Singer said.




Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim
Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the
creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final
cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with
studio executives.




Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to
leave it in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has
a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their
investments. "




Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller
"The Usual Suspects" but later earned a strong following among
comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series.





 

  




 
















  

RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-12 Thread Martin Baxter

But, Mr Worf... that would make *sense*. Isn't done in H'Wood.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: hellomahog...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:48:03 -0700
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies















 





  I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at 
Xmen it needs to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it 
is like having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven 
a car. 



On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson  
wrote:





















After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really 
all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those 
flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much 
in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three 
flicks,   I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the 
choices made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key 
powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix 
storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry about the ability 
to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie 
versions.

It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak 
effort in "Superman Returns" (overly
sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll
bring to a fourth X-Men movie.

***
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y



Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men'
Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox
Associated Press

Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET








Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)











BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another
"X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth
Century Fox.




The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but
passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman
Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that
film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood
made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was
released earlier this year.




"I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise.
I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South
Korea's Pusan International Film Festival.




"I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the
Australian actor who plays Wolverine.




Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies
because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through
entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of
mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is
about tolerance and social structures.




He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing
fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to
what I have to say."




"The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is —
the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition,"
Singer said.




Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim
Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the
creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final
cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with
studio executives.




Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to
leave it in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has
a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their
investments."




Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller
"The Usual Suspects" but later earned a strong following among
comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series.
























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RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies

2009-10-12 Thread Martin Baxter

I hear and agree with you, Keith.

"If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody 
hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik




To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:30:57 +
Subject: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies















 





  
After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really 
all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those 
flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much 
in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three 
flicks,   I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the 
choices made in them:   Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key 
powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix 
storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving,  and I worry about the ability 
to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie 
versions.
It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak 
effort in "Superman Returns" (overly
sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll
bring to a fourth X-Men movie.

***
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y


Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men'
Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox
Associated Press
Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET







Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty)










BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another
"X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth
Century Fox.




The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but
passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman
Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that
film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood
made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was
released earlier this year.




"I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise.
I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South
Korea's Pusan International Film Festival.




"I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the
Australian actor who plays Wolverine.




Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies
because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through
entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of
mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is
about tolerance and social structures.




He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing
fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to
what I have to say."




"The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is —
the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition,"
Singer said.




Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim
Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the
creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final
cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with
studio executives.




Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to
leave it in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has
a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their
investments."




Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller
"The Usual Suspects" but later earned a strong following among
comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series.






 

  













  
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