Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not > really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of > those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even > says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, > after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me > given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue > too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster > Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry > about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit > and less just movie versions. > It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his > weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad > casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. > > > *** > > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y > > Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed > return with Fox > > Associated Press > > Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET > [image: hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg] > > Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) >BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another > "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. > > The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on > the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" > director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." > South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: > Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. > > "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've > been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan > International Film Festival. > > "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the > Australian actor who plays Wolverine. > > Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because > they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said > the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who > struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. > > He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing > fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I > have to say." > > "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the > stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. > > Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the > American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean > filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where > directors must negotiate with studio executives. > > Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it > in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility > to help studios feel secure in their investments." > > Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual > Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his > adaptations of popular comic book series. > > > > -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
I’m with you. I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men franchise. They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many character, villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was diluted From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Error! Filename not specified. Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say." "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments." Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
This made me think that is what is happening with Heroes. Too many characters with no sense (or a small sense) of direction. I would love to see an actual hero team formed, and maybe some villains that try to take over the world or do robberies. Something a little more comic book like. Xmen has always been problematic I think. There are way too many people with possibly interesting stories to follow in one film. Making major character changes doesn't help. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tracey de Morsella < tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote: > > > I’m with you. I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men > franchise. They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many > character, villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was > diluted > > > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men > Movies > > > > > > I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs > to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like > having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a > car. > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson > wrote: > > > > After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not > really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of > those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even > says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, > after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me > given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue > too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster > Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry > about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit > and less just movie versions. > It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his > weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad > casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. > > > *** > > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y > Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed > return with Fox > > Associated Press > > Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) > > BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" > movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. > > The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on > the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" > director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." > South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: > Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. > > "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've > been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan > International Film Festival. > > "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the > Australian actor who plays Wolverine. > > Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because > they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said > the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who > struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. > > He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing > fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I > have to say." > > "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the > stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. > > Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the > American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean > filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where > directors must negotiate with studio executives. > > Hollywood movie budgets
RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
I agree, that is heroes’ weakness. Good characters with abrupt deadend storylines and way to many bad characters who simply go away. They started off with about 10 good characters, good, bad, or something else altogether. While guest stars with short arcs are usually interesting. They should have simply continued primarily focused on the main heroes. Their approach causes me to disconnect from characters I used to love and marginalize the importance of some story arcs. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies This made me think that is what is happening with Heroes. Too many characters with no sense (or a small sense) of direction. I would love to see an actual hero team formed, and maybe some villains that try to take over the world or do robberies. Something a little more comic book like. Xmen has always been problematic I think. There are way too many people with possibly interesting stories to follow in one film. Making major character changes doesn't help. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tracey de Morsella wrote: I’m with you. I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men franchise. They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many character, villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was diluted From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Error! Filename not specified. Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say." "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. Appearing at a p
Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
Yea there was a lot of potential for cool story lines like black ops missions with Monica, mob hits or other mayhem. What happened to the female soldier that survived the explosion at the lab? On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Tracey de Morsella < tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote: > > > I agree, that is heroes’ weakness. Good characters with abrupt deadend > storylines and way to many bad characters who simply go away. They started > off with about 10 good characters, good, bad, or something else altogether. > While guest stars with short arcs are usually interesting. They should have > simply continued primarily focused on the main heroes. Their approach > causes me to disconnect from characters I used to love and marginalize the > importance of some story arcs. > > > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09 PM > > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men > Movies > > > > > > This made me think that is what is happening with Heroes. Too many > characters with no sense (or a small sense) of direction. I would love to > see an actual hero team formed, and maybe some villains that try to take > over the world or do robberies. Something a little more comic book like. > > Xmen has always been problematic I think. There are way too many people > with possibly interesting stories to follow in one film. > > Making major character changes doesn't help. > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tracey de Morsella < > tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com> wrote: > > > > I’m with you. I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men > franchise. They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many > character, villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was > diluted > > > > *From:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Mr. Worf > *Sent:* Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM > *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men > Movies > > > > > > I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs > to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like > having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a > car. > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson > wrote: > > > > After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not > really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of > those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even > says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, > after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me > given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue > too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster > Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry > about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit > and less just movie versions. > It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his > weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad > casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. > > > *** > > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y > Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed > return with Fox > > Associated Press > > Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) > > BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" > movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. > > The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on > the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" > director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." > South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: > Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. > > "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've > been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea
RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
Here is another one. That invisible character played by the first doctor who in the new incarnation. Seem to have relevance but disappeared never to return From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:38 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies Yea there was a lot of potential for cool story lines like black ops missions with Monica, mob hits or other mayhem. What happened to the female soldier that survived the explosion at the lab? On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Tracey de Morsella wrote: I agree, that is heroes’ weakness. Good characters with abrupt deadend storylines and way to many bad characters who simply go away. They started off with about 10 good characters, good, bad, or something else altogether. While guest stars with short arcs are usually interesting. They should have simply continued primarily focused on the main heroes. Their approach causes me to disconnect from characters I used to love and marginalize the importance of some story arcs. From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:09 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies This made me think that is what is happening with Heroes. Too many characters with no sense (or a small sense) of direction. I would love to see an actual hero team formed, and maybe some villains that try to take over the world or do robberies. Something a little more comic book like. Xmen has always been problematic I think. There are way too many people with possibly interesting stories to follow in one film. Making major character changes doesn't help. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tracey de Morsella wrote: I’m with you. I know they were hits, but I was underwhelmed by the X-men franchise. They reminded me of the third Spidey movie, with so many character, villains and subplots that the production value as a whole was diluted From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Worf Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:48 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Error! Filename not specified. Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian actor w
Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
True - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:48:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET hr/photos/stylus/61119-singer_bryan_341x182.jpg Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say." "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments." Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
I agree unless the storyarch of Brotherhood of Evil Mutants,Dark Phonix and or Sentinals take over America and they return to the past. Anything else is a wasted effort. --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 6:30 PM After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. * * * * * * * http://www.hollywoo dreporter. com/hr/content_ display/news/ e3i30e7feb16ddb0 207ec91e06b9521c bc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say." "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments. " Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series.
RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
But, Mr Worf... that would make *sense*. Isn't done in H'Wood. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:48:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies I still believe that in order for someone to do a good job at Xmen it needs to be done by people that actually read comic books. Otherwise it is like having someone make a movie about racing that has never actually driven a car. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say." "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments." Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for over 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/
RE: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies
I hear and agree with you, Keith. "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: keithbjohn...@comcast.net Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:30:57 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Singer Seriously Considering Return to X-Men Movies After the debacles that were X3 and Wolverine: X-Men Origins, I'm not really all that excited about this. Granted, Singer wasn't behind either of those flicks. But you have to feel the studios have big say now (he even says as much in terms of financial clout) and that makes me nervous. Also, after three flicks, I think the excitement of X movies is wearing off me given the choices made in them: Halle Berry as Storm, Ice Man and Rogue too young, key powers changed (Juggernaut, Leech, Callisto), a lackluster Dark Phoenix storyline. The energy and excitement is leaving, and I worry about the ability to make something that's closer to the comics in spirit and less just movie versions. It might be, too, that I'm leery even with Singer returning, because his weak effort in "Superman Returns" (overly sentimental script, some bad casting) makes me afraid of what he'll bring to a fourth X-Men movie. *** http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i30e7feb16ddb0207ec91e06b9521cbc4?imw=Y Bryan Singer wants more 'X-Men' Director of first two films has discussed return with Fox Associated Press Oct 11, 2009, 09:06 AM ET Bryan Singer is interested in directing another 'X-Men.' (Getty) BUSAN -- Bryan Singer said Sunday he's interested in making another "X-Men" movie and has discussed the possibility with Twentieth Century Fox. The American director made "X-Men" and "X2: X-Men United," but passed on the third installment so he could make "Superman Returns.""Rush Hour" director Brett Ratner ended up shooting that film, "X-Men: The Last Stand." South African filmmaker Gavin Hood made another spin-off, "X-Men Origins: Wolverine," which was released earlier this year. "I'm still looking to possibly returning to the 'X-Men' franchise. I've been talking to Fox about it," Singer said at a talk at South Korea's Pusan International Film Festival. "I love Hugh Jackman. I love the cast," he said, referring to the Australian actor who plays Wolverine. Singer said he enjoyed making science fiction and fantasy movies because they allowed him to discuss serious issues through entertainment. He said the "X-Men" series, which follows a group of mutants with superpowers who struggle to fit in with humans, is about tolerance and social structures. He said he likes to "trick audiences into thinking they're seeing fireworks, but they're learning about themselves and listening to what I have to say." "The excitement about working in science fiction and fantasy is — the stories, if they are good, are about the human condition," Singer said. Appearing at a panel discussion with South Korean director Kim Ji-woon, the American director also said he appreciated the creative freedom South Korean filmmakers enjoyed to make the final cut, compared to Hollywood, where directors must negotiate with studio executives. Hollywood movie budgets are so high that "the risk is too great to leave it in the hands of a filmmaker," he said, adding that he "has a responsibility to help studios feel secure in their investments." Singer made his name with the 1995 critically acclaimed thriller "The Usual Suspects" but later earned a strong following among comic books fans for his adaptations of popular comic book series. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/