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(standing ovation) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:57:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS You should be sttled into the idea that if it is good, it's got to go... From: tasheka4 tashe...@netzero.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:51:09 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS New to this group, but I thought I'd chime in with my favorite cancelled scifi shows. I really liked Otherworld from the 80s and was sad to see it cancelled. Does anyone remember that one? Also hated to lose Alien Nation, Farscape, Babylon 5, and most recently Torchwood. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ ... wrote: Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ _ __ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ _ __ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) _ _ __ From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM  Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... _ _ __ From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
Good news! Thank you, Adrianne! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:24:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Torchwood isn't being cancelled. In fact it's been brought back for a fourth season. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:51 AM, tasheka4 tashe...@netzero.com wrote: New to this group, but I thought I'd chime in with my favorite cancelled scifi shows. I really liked Otherworld from the 80s and was sad to see it cancelled. Does anyone remember that one? Also hated to lose Alien Nation, Farscape, Babylon 5, and most recently Torchwood. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@... wrote: Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM  Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a riflemanAt least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
It's the rep that matters. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:24:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing
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Torchwood isn't completely gone yet. According to the director they are waiting to hear a final word from the BBC. The problem is that they will need a new cast. On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:51 AM, tasheka4 tashe...@netzero.com wrote: New to this group, but I thought I'd chime in with my favorite cancelled scifi shows. I really liked Otherworld from the 80s and was sad to see it cancelled. Does anyone remember that one? Also hated to lose Alien Nation, Farscape, Babylon 5, and most recently Torchwood. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@... wrote: Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM  Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a riflemanAt least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone
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Mr Worf, I read a series of interviews with the cast suggesting that, if Torchwood were to go on, it would be with the cast as they survived Children of Earth. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:21:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Torchwood isn't completely gone yet. According to the director they are waiting to hear a final word from the BBC. The problem is that they will need a new cast. On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 3:51 AM, tasheka4 tashe...@netzero.com wrote: New to this group, but I thought I'd chime in with my favorite cancelled scifi shows. I really liked Otherworld from the 80s and was sad to see it cancelled. Does anyone remember that one? Also hated to lose Alien Nation, Farscape, Babylon 5, and most recently Torchwood. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@... wrote: Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM  Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a riflemanAt least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I
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Torchwood isn't being cancelled. In fact it's been brought back for a fourth season. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:51 AM, tasheka4 tashe...@netzero.com wrote: New to this group, but I thought I'd chime in with my favorite cancelled scifi shows. I really liked Otherworld from the 80s and was sad to see it cancelled. Does anyone remember that one? Also hated to lose Alien Nation, Farscape, Babylon 5, and most recently Torchwood. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@... wrote: Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM  Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a riflemanAt least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro
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Adrianne, i love u! thanks 4 the info. Fate. --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com wrote: From: Adrianne Brennan adrianne.bren...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 10:24 PM Torchwood isn't being cancelled. In fact it's been brought back for a fourth season. ~ Where love and magic meet ~ http://www.adrianne brennan.com Experience the magic of Blood of the Dark Moon: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ botdm.html Take a bite out of Blood and Mint Chocolates: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ bamc.html Dare to take The Oath in this erotic fantasy series: http://www.adrianne brennan.com/ books.html# the_oath On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:51 AM, tasheka4 tashe...@netzero. com wrote: New to this group, but I thought I'd chime in with my favorite cancelled scifi shows. I really liked Otherworld from the 80s and was sad to see it cancelled. Does anyone remember that one? Also hated to lose Alien Nation, Farscape, Babylon 5, and most recently Torchwood. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ ... wrote: Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ _ __ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ _ __ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) _ _ __ From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM  Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... _ _ __ From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors
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Gotcha... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:31:20 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS It's the rep that matters. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:24:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers. Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save
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You should be sttled into the idea that if it is good, it's got to go... From: tasheka4 tashe...@netzero.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 5:51:09 AM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS New to this group, but I thought I'd chime in with my favorite cancelled scifi shows. I really liked Otherworld from the 80s and was sad to see it cancelled. Does anyone remember that one? Also hated to lose Alien Nation, Farscape, Babylon 5, and most recently Torchwood. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ ... wrote: Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ _ __ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik _ _ __ To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) _ _ __ From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM  Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... _ _ __ From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... _ _ __ From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups..com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making
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Just call me Sarge... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:56:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Whatever the Gunny asks for! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: mcjennings124@ yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:50:26 -0400 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I think we should buy him a gift. Gift, Gunny? Nice gunny! From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:49 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr.. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle
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LOL...I love the gif From: Reece Jennings mcjennings...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:50:26 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I think we should buy him a gift. Gift, Gunny? Nice gunny! From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:49 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt.and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re
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I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15
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You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino
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(Darn! Should have held out for a truck!) From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:35:40 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Yes, Sarge! Martin (still being very nice) If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:59:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Just call me Sarge... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.. com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:56:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Whatever the Gunny asks for! If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: mcjennings124@ yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:50:26 -0400 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I think we should buy him a gift. Gift, Gunny? Nice gunny! From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Martin Baxter Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:49 AM To: SciFiNoir2 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: UmMr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp doEven worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost
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Oh I don't know, Martin...getting into a tight sitting position is going to be murder with this 'spare tire'...and trying to hit a target well over 5 football fields away...do I really need to explain that? From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:34:16 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS You still have the same mind. The rest is just a matter of compensation. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:03:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I guess I should have mentioned that was over 20 years,70lbs, and a pair of bifocals ago... From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 6:48:51 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a riflemanAt least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From
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I have to agree with you on that on...However, to be fair, I saw the sense in putting the females into the male uniforms...The one thing that did make sense on that show...(but the uniforms the WM's were wearing when I left were rather flattering to their form!) From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.com To: SciFiNoir2 scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:47:04 AM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Pal, that's a simple lack of respect for the uniform on H'Wood's part. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: astromancer2002@ yahoo..com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:53:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters
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Does Supertrain and the Big Bus qualify as sci-fi? --- On Thu, 8/20/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:56 AM Do what da script say do, Hey... From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:43:59 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS hollywood baby, hollywood. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 10:31 AM I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo..com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled . _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts
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George, I'm thinking yes, for some reason. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:40:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Does Supertrain and the Big Bus qualify as sci-fi? --- On Thu, 8/20/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:56 AM Do what da script say do, Hey... From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:43:59 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS hollywood baby, hollywood. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 10:31 AM I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo..com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST
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I'm going to be even nicer to you in the future... If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:03:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS But that is the way it works in the Corps...everyone is a basic grunt rifleman. Behold, I am probably the only trombone player you know who could take you out at 500 meters with a service rifle! (M-16A1 A2) From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:31:02 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a gruntand a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface
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My thoughts on SAAB (which I do like alot is this). The pilot episode and the first 2 eps were great, then it went sort of down hill from there. -GTW ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072amp; hmpgID=115amp;bcd=JulystepsfooterNO115)
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Maybe before most posters time but Logan's Run the tv show had potential.Not as campy as the movie..sort of. --- On Wed, 8/19/09, gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com wrote: From: gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 9:45 AM My thoughts on SAAB (which I do like alot is this). The pilot episode and the first 2 eps were great, then it went sort of down hill from there. -GTW ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122284 6709x1201493018/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd=Julystepsfooter NO115)
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I think that the problem with shows like this is that studios think that they have to dumb down the show a little for non-scifi audiences. I have read a few conversations that were against the vtechnobabble that shows like star trek and others have. In the process they change the storylines to fit actors that may be more liked than others. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe before most posters time but Logan's Run the tv show had potential.Not as campy as the movie..sort of. --- On *Wed, 8/19/09, gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com* wrote: From: gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 9:45 AM My thoughts on SAAB (which I do like alot is this). The pilot episode and the first 2 eps were great, then it went sort of down hill from there. -GTW ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ( http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122284 6709x1201493018/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd=Julystepsfooter NO115) -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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The intellectual elitist in me rages at the thought of that dumbing-down. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:18:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I think that the problem with shows like this is that studios think that they have to dumb down the show a little for non-scifi audiences. I have read a few conversations that were against the vtechnobabble that shows like star trek and others have. In the process they change the storylines to fit actors that may be more liked than others. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe before most posters time but Logan's Run the tv show had potential.Not as campy as the movie..sort of. --- On Wed, 8/19/09, gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com wrote: From: gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 9:45 AM My thoughts on SAAB (which I do like alot is this). The pilot episode and the first 2 eps were great, then it went sort of down hill from there. -GTW ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122284 6709x1201493018/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd=Julystepsfooter NO115) -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery
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My question is who are they dumbing it down for? On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@hotmail.comwrote: The intellectual elitist in me rages at the thought of that dumbing-down. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik -- To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:18:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I think that the problem with shows like this is that studios think that they have to dumb down the show a little for non-scifi audiences. I have read a few conversations that were against the vtechnobabble that shows like star trek and others have. In the process they change the storylines to fit actors that may be more liked than others. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe before most posters time but Logan's Run the tv show had potential.Not as campy as the movie..sort of. --- On *Wed, 8/19/09, gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com* wrote: From: gwashin...@aol.com gwashin...@aol.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 9:45 AM My thoughts on SAAB (which I do like alot is this). The pilot episode and the first 2 eps were great, then it went sort of down hill from there. -GTW ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ( http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122284 6709x1201493018/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd=Julystepsfooter NO115) -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. Click here. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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Excellent question, Mr. Worf...I'd say for the studio execs From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:49:37 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS My question is who are they dumbing it down for? On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ hotmail.com wrote: The intellectual elitist in me rages at the thought of that dumbing-down. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com From: HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:18:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I think that the problem with shows like this is that studios think that they have to dumb down the show a little for non-scifi audiences. I have read a few conversations that were against the vtechnobabble that shows like star trek and others have. In the process they change the storylines to fit actors that may be more liked than others. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com wrote: Maybe before most posters time but Logan's Run the tv show had potential.Not as campy as the movie... ...sort of. --- On Wed, 8/19/09, gwashin...@aol. com gwashin...@aol. com wrote: From: gwashin...@aol. com gwashin...@aol. com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 9:45 AM My thoughts on SAAB (which I do like alot is this). The pilot episode and the first 2 eps were great, then it went sort of down hill from there.. -GTW ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100126575x122284 6709x1201493018/ aol?redir= http://www. freecreditreport .com/pm/default. aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd=Julystepsfooter NO115) -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. Click here. -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
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Do what da script say do, Hey... From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:43:59 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS hollywood baby, hollywood. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 10:31 AM I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had.. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss
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Pal, that's a simple lack of respect for the uniform on H'Wood's part. If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director? -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: astromancer2...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:53:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What
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Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world
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I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.comwrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On *Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... -- *From:* Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com *To:* scifino...@yahoogro ups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=astromancer2...@yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... -- *From:* Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=hellomahog...@gmail.com *To:* scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.comhttp://mc/compose?to=truthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI
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hollywood baby, hollywood. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 10:31 AM I'm aware of that, my focus was more on the pilot aspect of the show. It didn't make sense for them to be in a fighter pilot role then a couple of episodes later storming a base. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: Worf, C.W. is totally right. even Marine Corps officers go to 'The Basic School' where they learn 2 be grunts and how 2 lead other Marines. after that, they go 2 whatever other school that they qualified for. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/18/09, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: From: C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:30 AM Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2
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Dresden Filess\. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:44 PM That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
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(weeping bitter tears at the loss...) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:28:18 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Dresden Filess\. --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Mr. Worf wrote: From: Mr. Worf Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:44 PM That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame
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That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.comwrote: Um...Mr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... -- *From:* Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com *To:* scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM *Subject:* Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.comtruthseeker...@lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.comastromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early
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Honestly, Worf, That is how they train Marine officers...Probably Army ones too... From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:10:33 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That I understand. What I didn't understand was why did they make them into pilots too? On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com wrote: UmMr. Worf, every Marine is a grunt...and a rifleman...At least that is what I was taught...But officers lead...just not each other...What does make me ill about that show was a few years down the road, drill instructors started wearing campain covers (smokie hats) with dress blues. I'm sorry, but that is the most retarded thing I have every seen the Marine Corp do...Even worse than the Army taking the headgear that distinguished their special forces from the rest of the soldiers and letting everyone wear it... From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:44:43 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com wrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous
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I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... From: B. Smith To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline...I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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You're forgetting R. Lee Ermy...Oh...never mind...What would he know about sci-fi? From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:15:56 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2002@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds
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That's right... he was in the pilot ep. If he'd stuck with the show... nah. Those marshmallows would've run back home to Mommy. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com You're forgetting R. Lee Ermy...Oh...never mind...What would he know about sci-fi? From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:15:56 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline... I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... _ _ __ From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds
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That's one of the things that I liked and disliked about the show. I didn't understand why they would waste training on making someone into a grunt and into a fighter pilot. You should be one or the other and not both. That would take too long to do in a war situation especially if you are trying to save the planet. But I also liked the disorganized feel because things would fall apart a bit if the bad guys were to hit certain areas first.Organization and logistics would get lost. It happened to the Russians when they fought the Finnish army and lost in the 1930s. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.comwrote: Trying to find out who consulted on the show in terms of military matters... and nothing. Might explain a thing or three. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:59:27 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Though I appreciate the homage to us jarheads, they could have put more effort into the scripts, especially the storyline...I won't go into the impracticle combat space suits or the lack of stealth create by all of the light on the exterior of said suits and weapons or annoying beeps...(gag) lastly, the sickening overuse of Marine Corps historical quotes and overused 'gung-ho' cliche's...Other than that, it was okay... From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:01:09 AM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I agree with you, pal, particularly based on that ending it had. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... _ _ __ From: B. Smith To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart To : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifinoir2@ yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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P.S...You could never go wrong with Uhura's midriff... From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 6:28:07 PM Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS They should have made a miniseries based on the alternate universe. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com wrote: actually i really liked 'Enterprise' (especially when it hit it stride in the 3rd and 4th seasons). the 3rd season - the Xindi deal was great, and then the 4th and final season - the alternate universe when the Terrain Empire - that would give rise 2 the alternate Kirk and Uhura (the mid-driff sexy Uhura). i think it could have ran a few more seasons if they (the studio) had not pulled it. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:30 AM I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@ To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
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Uh...to be fair, Space Above and Beyond NEEDED to be canceled... From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 7:43:24 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise , do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Thus spake the Wise Astromancer... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From : C.W. Badie astromancer2...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Try Hulu...Or Fancast... --- On Tue, 8/11/09, angelababycat wrote: From: angelababycat Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:58 PM Has B5 ever gone into syndication? Hard to believe, but I actually never watched the show (I was in my mid-20's with a good job, nice car and no responsibility so I was never home). I thought of ordering it, but there's a giant price difference on Amazon between the 2004 and June 2009 release: $121 vs $270. Anyone know why? Wikipedia has some discussion that the transfer of Babylon 5 from fullscreen to widescreen (originally for the Sci-Fi Channel; later released on DVD) created significant problems with regard to special-effects/ CGI footage. But I can't tell it that's what got fixed in the 2009 release. Unlike in 1994, I now have a todler and am too pooped to do anything but watch TV at night. Angela --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: i liked sinclair as the ambassador. i think they should have used his character in the later seasons. especially 4amp;5 when they were tying up all the loose ends. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:25 AM  Yeah, fresh from the days of Scarecrow and Mrs. King and his many TV westerns and such. I thought he was okay in the role, but I always missed Sinclair for some reason. His understated performance worked for me in that world. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:16:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  Keith, i remember when they replaced Sinclair. that is what they wanted. someone a little younger and a little better known. at the time, boxleitner was a bigger star. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:12 AM  I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it' s a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time
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Try Hulu...Or Fancast... --- On Tue, 8/11/09, angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.com wrote: From: angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:58 PM Has B5 ever gone into syndication? Hard to believe, but I actually never watched the show (I was in my mid-20's with a good job, nice car and no responsibility so I was never home). I thought of ordering it, but there's a giant price difference on Amazon between the 2004 and June 2009 release: $121 vs $270. Anyone know why? Wikipedia has some discussion that the transfer of Babylon 5 from fullscreen to widescreen (originally for the Sci-Fi Channel; later released on DVD) created significant problems with regard to special-effects/ CGI footage. But I can't tell it that's what got fixed in the 2009 release. Unlike in 1994, I now have a todler and am too pooped to do anything but watch TV at night. Angela --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ ... wrote: i liked sinclair as the ambassador. i think they should have used his character in the later seasons. especially 45 when they were tying up all the loose ends. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:25 AM  Yeah, fresh from the days of Scarecrow and Mrs. King and his many TV westerns and such. I thought he was okay in the role, but I always missed Sinclair for some reason. His understated performance worked for me in that world. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:16:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  Keith, i remember when they replaced Sinclair. that is what they wanted. someone a little younger and a little better known. at the time, boxleitner was a bigger star. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:12 AM  I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it' s a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show.
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I think that he should have sued them for plagiarism. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: I've always found the oft-told tale--by JMS himself, among others--that Paramount listened to his idea, rejected it, then created DS9 based on the same ideas, to be fascinating. The similarities between the two are undeniable. But at the same time, there are significant differences between the shows that make each good in its own right, and two of my fav scifi series of all time. - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:32:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS JMS had the entire story laid out but some story elements were tweaked and reworked for the series. I was reading about his original vision of the series and its sequel. Maybe he'll do his alternate take on the material as book or comic someday. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Maybe, Keith. But then, I'm reminded of the story I heard (unfortunately, no way to substantiate this) that Strazyncki (sp?) had the entire run of the series laid out even before he presented it to any producers. If that's true, then it makes sense, because I remember the ep when they captured Sinclair's Starfury as he was trying to ram a Minabri ship, took him prisoner and were about to interrogate him when they, for some reason, took a gander at his DNA and immediately released him, because it proved that he was the reincarnation of Valen, and that he had to leave B5 in order to fulfill that destiny, taking B4 back in time to be used as a base for the Minbari in the First Shadow War. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:12:14 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it's a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@... wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone
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A thing of beauty, top to bottom. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Wed, 12 Aug 2009 04:18:48 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Love that seen, loved Marcus! And don't forget that after he knocked them all out, he looked around the room and says Bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up! My fav scene with Marcus is when he took on the Minbari warrior who was a threat to Delenn, and the guy literally beats Marcus with a stick, severally injuring him. Marcus, gasping, bleeding, answers the warriors query of why are you risking your life? with We live for the one, we die for the one. this amazing sacrifice, and truer dedication to Minbari principals by a human humbled the warrior, who changed his attitude toward Deleen. He goes to the hospital and basically acknowledges Marcus' teaching him a lesson. Marcus, barely conscious, whispers, the next time you feel a need to learn a lesson, could you try not to make it so painful? From outside of the room, people in the hallway hear the Minbari's laughter. Great scene that showcases the best of Marcus, and matched only by his ultimate sacrifice on behalf of Ivanova. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:30:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Fate, Remember Marcus' first ep on the show? He was designated to protect Delenn, and someone shot her ten minutes into his watch. He got mad, went Down Below on the station, and found the roughest-looking bunch he could and said that he wanted answers and that, if he didn't get what he wanted, he would beat everyone in the place unconscious, then wait until they woke up and repeat his request. They laughed. Lennier found him sometime later in that room, everyone unconscious, he failry whomped-on but awake, stiing to one side, opening and closing his telescoping staff. When Leenier asked him what he was doing, he said, Well, they said I was carrying around a lot of repressed anger. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com yes i know - he had the 'hole in his soul' but i still liked his character. one of my fav was the character marcus. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, B. Smith wrote: From: B. Smith Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:27 AM That might have been a little hard. because he took Babylon 4 into the past and became Valen. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: i liked sinclair as the ambassador. i think they should have used his character in the later seasons. especially 4amp;5 when they were tying up all the loose ends. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:25 AM  Yeah, fresh from the days of Scarecrow and Mrs. King and his many TV westerns and such. I thought he was okay in the role, but I always missed Sinclair for some reason. His understated performance worked for me in that world. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:16:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  Keith, i remember when they replaced Sinclair. that is what they wanted. someone a little younger and a little better known. at the time, boxleitner was a bigger star. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:12 AM  I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it' s a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS
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-searching hulu for that ep now, 2 quote our friend (no) rave :-( Fate. --- On Wed, 8/12/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 12:18 AM Love that seen, loved Marcus! And don't forget that after he knocked them all out, he looked around the room and says Bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up! My fav scene with Marcus is when he took on the Minbari warrior who was a threat to Delenn, and the guy literally beats Marcus with a stick, severally injuring him. Marcus, gasping, bleeding, answers the warriors query of why are you risking your life? with We live for the one, we die for the one. this amazing sacrifice, and truer dedication to Minbari principals by a human humbled the warrior, who changed his attitude toward Deleen. He goes to the hospital and basically acknowledges Marcus' teaching him a lesson. Marcus, barely conscious, whispers, the next time you feel a need to learn a lesson, could you try not to make it so painful? From outside of the room, people in the hallway hear the Minbari's laughter. Great scene that showcases the best of Marcus, and matched only by his ultimate sacrifice on behalf of Ivanova. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:30:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Fate, Remember Marcus' first ep on the show? He was designated to protect Delenn, and someone shot her ten minutes into his watch. He got mad, went Down Below on the station, and found the roughest-looking bunch he could and said that he wanted answers and that, if he didn't get what he wanted, he would beat everyone in the place unconscious, then wait until they woke up and repeat his request. They laughed. Lennier found him sometime later in that room, everyone unconscious, he failry whomped-on but awake, stiing to one side, opening and closing his telescoping staff. When Leenier asked him what he was doing, he said, Well, they said I was carrying around a lot of repressed anger. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com yes i know - he had the 'hole in his soul' but i still liked his character. one of my fav was the character marcus. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, B. Smith wrote: From: B. Smith Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:27 AM That might have been a little hard. because he took Babylon 4 into the past and became Valen. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: i liked sinclair as the ambassador. i think they should have used his character in the later seasons. especially 45 when they were tying up all the loose ends. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:25 AM  Yeah, fresh from the days of Scarecrow and Mrs. King and his many TV westerns and such. I thought he was okay in the role, but I always missed Sinclair for some reason. His understated performance worked for me in that world. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:16:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  Keith, i remember when they replaced Sinclair. that is what they wanted. someone a little younger and a little better known. at the time, boxleitner was a bigger star. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:12 AM  I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it' s a great foundation for what
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can't remember what happened with that. - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:28:02 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I think that he should have sued them for plagiarism. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: I've always found the oft-told tale--by JMS himself, among others--that Paramount listened to his idea, rejected it, then created DS9 based on the same ideas, to be fascinating. The similarities between the two are undeniable. But at the same time, there are significant differences between the shows that make each good in its own right, and two of my fav scifi series of all time. - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:32:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS JMS had the entire story laid out but some story elements were tweaked and reworked for the series. I was reading about his original vision of the series and its sequel. Maybe he'll do his alternate take on the material as book or comic someday. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Maybe, Keith. But then, I'm reminded of the story I heard (unfortunately, no way to substantiate this) that Strazyncki (sp?) had the entire run of the series laid out even before he presented it to any producers. If that's true, then it makes sense, because I remember the ep when they captured Sinclair's Starfury as he was trying to ram a Minabri ship, took him prisoner and were about to interrogate him when they, for some reason, took a gander at his DNA and immediately released him, because it proved that he was the reincarnation of Valen, and that he had to leave B5 in order to fulfill that destiny, taking B4 back in time to be used as a base for the Minbari in the First Shadow War. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:12:14 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it's a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@... wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject
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yes i know - he had the 'hole in his soul' but i still liked his character. one of my fav was the character marcus. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:27 AM That might have been a little hard. because he took Babylon 4 into the past and became Valen. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ ... wrote: i liked sinclair as the ambassador. i think they should have used his character in the later seasons. especially 45 when they were tying up all the loose ends. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ ... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:25 AM  Yeah, fresh from the days of Scarecrow and Mrs. King and his many TV westerns and such. I thought he was okay in the role, but I always missed Sinclair for some reason. His understated performance worked for me in that world. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:16:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  Keith, i remember when they replaced Sinclair. that is what they wanted. someone a little younger and a little better known. at the time, boxleitner was a bigger star. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:12 AM  I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it' s a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren
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Fate, Remember Marcus' first ep on the show? He was designated to protect Delenn, and someone shot her ten minutes into his watch. He got mad, went Down Below on the station, and found the roughest-looking bunch he could and said that he wanted answers and that, if he didn't get what he wanted, he would beat everyone in the place unconscious, then wait until they woke up and repeat his request. They laughed. Lennier found him sometime later in that room, everyone unconscious, he failry whomped-on but awake, stiing to one side, opening and closing his telescoping staff. When Leenier asked him what he was doing, he said, Well, they said I was carrying around a lot of repressed anger. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com yes i know - he had the 'hole in his soul' but i still liked his character. one of my fav was the character marcus. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, B. Smith wrote: From: B. Smith Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:27 AM That might have been a little hard. because he took Babylon 4 into the past and became Valen. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: i liked sinclair as the ambassador. i think they should have used his character in the later seasons. especially 4amp;5 when they were tying up all the loose ends. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:25 AM  Yeah, fresh from the days of Scarecrow and Mrs. King and his many TV westerns and such. I thought he was okay in the role, but I always missed Sinclair for some reason. His understated performance worked for me in that world. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:16:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  Keith, i remember when they replaced Sinclair. that is what they wanted. someone a little younger and a little better known. at the time, boxleitner was a bigger star. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:12 AM  I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it' s a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhoward@ yahoo.com wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8
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Thanks, B. I'd pay to see that in comic form. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:32:30 - From : B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com JMS had the entire story laid out but some story elements were tweaked and reworked for the series. I was reading about his original vision of the series and its sequel. Maybe he'll do his alternate take on the material as book or comic someday. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter wrote: Maybe, Keith. But then, I'm reminded of the story I heard (unfortunately, no way to substantiate this) that Strazyncki (sp?) had the entire run of the series laid out even before he presented it to any producers. If that's true, then it makes sense, because I remember the ep when they captured Sinclair's Starfury as he was trying to ram a Minabri ship, took him prisoner and were about to interrogate him when they, for some reason, took a gander at his DNA and immediately released him, because it proved that he was the reincarnation of Valen, and that he had to leave B5 in order to fulfill that destiny, taking B4 back in time to be used as a base for the Minbari in the First Shadow War. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:12:14 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it's a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@... wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) â everything was wonderful. My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to watch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If someone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at
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I've always found the oft-told tale--by JMS himself, among others--that Paramount listened to his idea, rejected it, then created DS9 based on the same ideas, to be fascinating. The similarities between the two are undeniable. But at the same time, there are significant differences between the shows that make each good in its own right, and two of my fav scifi series of all time. - Original Message - From: B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:32:30 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS JMS had the entire story laid out but some story elements were tweaked and reworked for the series. I was reading about his original vision of the series and its sequel. Maybe he'll do his alternate take on the material as book or comic someday. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Maybe, Keith. But then, I'm reminded of the story I heard (unfortunately, no way to substantiate this) that Strazyncki (sp?) had the entire run of the series laid out even before he presented it to any producers. If that's true, then it makes sense, because I remember the ep when they captured Sinclair's Starfury as he was trying to ram a Minabri ship, took him prisoner and were about to interrogate him when they, for some reason, took a gander at his DNA and immediately released him, because it proved that he was the reincarnation of Valen, and that he had to leave B5 in order to fulfill that destiny, taking B4 back in time to be used as a base for the Minbari in the First Shadow War. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:12:14 + (UTC) From : Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it's a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George Arterberry brotherfromhow...@... wrote: Cleoptara 2525 --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Bosco Bosco * wrote: From: Bosco Bosco Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 12:04 PM Jim Baker and Tammy Faye Bakers 80's show, The PTL Club. Jim J and Tammy Faye Baker's 90's day time show, The Jim J and Tammy Faye Show. Actually anything with Tammy Faye Baker. You may disagree that this is science fiction. If so, you just aren't perceiving reality correctly. Bosco --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Michelle Lauren *wrote: From: Michelle Lauren Subject: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 2:32 PM Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an
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Love that seen, loved Marcus! And don't forget that after he knocked them all out, he looked around the room and says Bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up! My fav scene with Marcus is when he took on the Minbari warrior who was a threat to Delenn, and the guy literally beats Marcus with a stick, severally injuring him. Marcus, gasping, bleeding, answers the warriors query of why are you risking your life? with We live for the one, we die for the one. this amazing sacrifice, and truer dedication to Minbari principals by a human humbled the warrior, who changed his attitude toward Deleen. He goes to the hospital and basically acknowledges Marcus' teaching him a lesson. Marcus, barely conscious, whispers, the next time you feel a need to learn a lesson, could you try not to make it so painful? From outside of the room, people in the hallway hear the Minbari's laughter. Great scene that showcases the best of Marcus, and matched only by his ultimate sacrifice on behalf of Ivanova. - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker...@lycos.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:30:41 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Fate, Remember Marcus' first ep on the show? He was designated to protect Delenn, and someone shot her ten minutes into his watch. He got mad, went Down Below on the station, and found the roughest-looking bunch he could and said that he wanted answers and that, if he didn't get what he wanted, he would beat everyone in the place unconscious, then wait until they woke up and repeat his request. They laughed. Lennier found him sometime later in that room, everyone unconscious, he failry whomped-on but awake, stiing to one side, opening and closing his telescoping staff. When Leenier asked him what he was doing, he said, Well, they said I was carrying around a lot of repressed anger. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From : Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com yes i know - he had the 'hole in his soul' but i still liked his character. one of my fav was the character marcus. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, B. Smith wrote: From: B. Smith Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:27 AM That might have been a little hard. because he took Babylon 4 into the past and became Valen. --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: i liked sinclair as the ambassador. i think they should have used his character in the later seasons. especially 45 when they were tying up all the loose ends. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:25 AM  Yeah, fresh from the days of Scarecrow and Mrs. King and his many TV westerns and such. I thought he was okay in the role, but I always missed Sinclair for some reason. His understated performance worked for me in that world. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:16:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  Keith, i remember when they replaced Sinclair. that is what they wanted. someone a little younger and a little better known. at the time, boxleitner was a bigger star. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson wrote: From: Keith Johnson Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:12 AM  I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it' s a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series
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It was in syndication quite a bit. But that was back in the days when shows like TNG, Hercules, etc., where all over cable: TNT, WGN, WB, etc. Over the years, more syndicated shows were snatched up by cable channels so it was hard to find series as easily. B5 finally dropped out of syndication, but why it completely disappeared from all cable and broadcast TV is a mystery to me: perhaps everyone involved felt it could make more money as a DVD offering? - Original Message - From: angelababycat asrobin...@mindspring.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:58:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Has B5 ever gone into syndication? Hard to believe, but I actually never watched the show (I was in my mid-20's with a good job, nice car and no responsibility so I was never home). I thought of ordering it, but there's a giant price difference on Amazon between the 2004 and June 2009 release: $121 vs $270. Anyone know why? Wikipedia has some discussion that the transfer of Babylon 5 from fullscreen to widescreen (originally for the Sci-Fi Channel; later released on DVD) created significant problems with regard to special-effects/CGI footage. But I can't tell it that's what got fixed in the 2009 release. Unlike in 1994, I now have a todler and am too pooped to do anything but watch TV at night. Angela --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@... wrote: i liked sinclair as the ambassador. i think they should have used his character in the later seasons. especially 45 when they were tying up all the loose ends. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... wrote: From: Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@... Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:25 AM  Yeah, fresh from the days of Scarecrow and Mrs. King and his many TV westerns and such. I thought he was okay in the role, but I always missed Sinclair for some reason. His understated performance worked for me in that world. - Original Message - From: Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_007@ yahoo.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:16:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  Keith, i remember when they replaced Sinclair. that is what they wanted. someone a little younger and a little better known. at the time, boxleitner was a bigger star. Fate. --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net wrote: From: Keith Johnson KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:12 AM  I thought the first season of B5 was good. Lots of setup there: the introduction of Mr. Morden, the first appearance of a Shadow vessel (barely seen), an appearance of one of the other First Ones ships, the slow buildup of tension with Earthgov--it' s a great foundation for what came later. Never did understand why Sinclair was replaced: I guess they wanted a more Kirk-like character, rather than the more sedate Sinclair? - Original Message - From: Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ lycos.com To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 8:17:39 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS  I'm with you on Babylon 5 as well, Mr Worf. Aside from that snoozer of a first season and the jarring effect of the removal of Commander Sinclair and being replaced by Captain Sheridan, that series cooked with gas. I really can't see how thw Dominion War was dragged out. It lasted four years, shorter than WWII. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Sat, 8 Aug 2009 17:14:48 -0700 From : Mr. Worf HelloMahogany@ gmail.com To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I would agree to Babylon 5 but not DS9. They were dragging the war out. The only thing that I did enjoy was the development of Odo's character. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: On that, I have to disagree, Mr Worf. For me, the last two seasons of DSNine were some of the best TV I've ever watched. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:32:13 -0700 From : Mr. Worf To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com I think DS9 ran out of steam about a year before it ended. The writing was starting to slack off a bit. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:13 PM, George
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I think so too. I heard rumors that Whoppi was suppose to play in a couple of shows as well. I could never understand why this show could not have been shown on what was sci-fi. I mean a true science fiction show with some what a budget would not hurt. Autobots, transform!!! On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:31, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.com wrote: actually i really liked 'Enterprise' (especially when it hit it stride in the 3rd and 4th seasons). the 3rd season - the Xindi deal was great, and then the 4th and final season - the alternate universe when the Terrain Empire - that would give rise 2 the alternate Kirk and Uhura (the mid-driff sexy Uhura). i think it could have ran a few more seasons if they (the studio) had not pulled it. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:30 AM I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/ add? fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
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I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker...@... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Cc : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525,right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenBooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
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actually i really liked 'Enterprise' (especially when it hit it stride in the 3rd and 4th seasons). the 3rd season - the Xindi deal was great, and then the 4th and final season - the alternate universe when the Terrain Empire - that would give rise 2 the alternate Kirk and Uhura (the mid-driff sexy Uhura). i think it could have ran a few more seasons if they (the studio) had not pulled it. --- On Fri, 8/7/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:30 AM I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntds - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 / Individual Email | Traditional http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:scifinoir2-digest@ yahoogroups. com mailto:scifinoir2-fullfeat u...@yahoogroups .com scifinoir2-unsubscr i...@yahoogroups. com http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/
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They should have made a miniseries based on the alternate universe. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Augustus Augustus jazzynupe_...@yahoo.comwrote: actually i really liked 'Enterprise' (especially when it hit it stride in the 3rd and 4th seasons). the 3rd season - the Xindi deal was great, and then the 4th and final season - the alternate universe when the Terrain Empire - that would give rise 2 the alternate Kirk and Uhura (the mid-driff sexy Uhura). i think it could have ran a few more seasons if they (the studio) had not pulled it. --- On *Fri, 8/7/09, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 2:30 AM I remember hearing talk about a Space: Above and beyond movie for a while but that died a quiet death. I kind of liked that show although it was similar to Starship Troopers. (another movie that has been ruined.) On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, B. Smith daikaij...@yahoo. comhttp://mc/compose?to=daikaij...@yahoo.com wrote: Space: Above and Beyond Now and Again Hypernauts Surface --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter truthseeker013@ ... wrote: Since we've been forced to acknowledge Cleopatra 2525, can we counter-balance that with its counter-piece, Jack of All Trades? And, as I have invoked The One True Bruce, allow me to toss in The Adventures of Brisco County Jr. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] GREATEST CANCELED SCIFI SHOWS Date : Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:36:08 -0400 From : Daryle Lockhart dar...@... To : scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com Cc : scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com scifino...@yahoogro ups.comhttp://mc/compose?to=scifino...@yahoogroups.com You...do realize you're co-signing Cleopatra2525, right? I never thought I'd type this, but if you haven't seen the 3rd season of enterprise, do. The rest of my list is Farscape, Odyssey 5, and G v. E. On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Michelle Lauren wrote: Someone in this group recommended Joss Whedon's FIREFLY to me a few months ago. Once I saw the episodes on Hulu (listed in their intended order as opposed to how Fox patchworked them together during the original viewing season), I got hooked. The characters, the dialogue, the world (an interesting mix of Asian and Western culture thrown into a futuristic setting) †everything was wonderful . My DVD set of the series just arrived today and I can't wait to wa tch it again. Fox made a serious mistake canceling this show. If som eone hadn't recommended it on this loop, I might never have bothered looking it upon because the plot seemed weird to me at first. Plus, I'm a fan of any show that features the gorgeous and uber-talented actress Gina Torres. What are some other great scifi shows that got canceled too early? Michelle Lauren ~ Join my Yahoo Group thru 8/31 for a chance to win a $10 Amazon Gift Card.** www.MichelleLaurenB ooks.com http://www.MichelleLaurenBooks.com ~ Multicultural Romance that defies boundaries Celestial Lovers: Starstruck Hunter ~ AVAILABLE @ Amazon | Fictionwise | Liquid Silver Books Temptation Eve ~ Cobblestone Press ~ Coming 9/2009 How to Tame a Harpy ~ Romantic Times American Title V Finalist http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=JQdwk8Yntdshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQdwk8Yntds - - -- Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/scifinoir2 /app/peoplemap2/ entry/add? fmvn=mapYahoohttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYahoo! Groups Links -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/mahogany_ pleasures_ of_darkness/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/ -- Bringing diversity to perversity for 9 years! Mahogany at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mahogany_pleasures_of_darkness/
