Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments
They need to reinvent themselves. Playboy changed over the years from being cool and hip like Hugh but now it is dated and showing its age. From what I hear Heffner's daughter runs most of the business now. I considered investing in them a couple of years back, but after studying them for a while I decided not to. Their stock has been pretty much stagnant. I think the younger magazines like Perfect 10, and FHM has given them a run for their money without doing nudes. (perfect 10 does, FHM doesnt) The key is the writers and the topics. I think that is what is missing. Back in the day, Playboy had things like cars, how to fix cool cocktails, and how to tie a winsor knot tie etc. They just don't have their fingers on the pulse of the american male anymore. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights > PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months > a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss > January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine > that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. > Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls > is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash > cow, is now hemorrhaging money. > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson > wrote: > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his > member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson > and Kerry Washington? > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > > > * > > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml > > > > John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting > his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a > concert. > > > > But his latest foray into the familiar territory of > speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which > has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the > 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer > Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter "sexual napalm"), his sloppy > kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women. > > > > "I don't think I open myself to it," Mayer said of dating black women. > "My d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and > a f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my > d---." > > > > Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet > Mayer also spoke about "why black people love me." > > > > "Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a > 'hood pass?' " he told Playboy. "And by the way, it's sort of a > contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could > call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood > pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a > 'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been > told, 'We're full.' " > > > > Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances. > When it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about > the intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence. > > > > "It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the > paparazzi into my life,' " he explained. "I really said, 'I now make the > choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to > stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs > aren't good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack > cocaine to me. ... Sexually it was crazy. That's all I'll say. It was like > napalm, sexual napalm." > > > > During the interview, Mayer also spoke about his ongoing feud with Perez > Hilton and how they once kissed at a club. "I remember seeing Perez Hilton > flitting about this club and acting as though he had just invented > homosexuality," he said. "All of a sudden I thought, I can out-gay this guy > right now. I grabbed him and gave him the dirtiest, tongue-iest kiss I have > ever put on anybody â€" almost as if I hated f--s." > > > > Perez has already hit back against Mayer, but so far the usually > Twitter-happy singer has not addressed any element of the Playboy interview. > > > > > > > > > Post your SciFiNoir Profile at > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scif
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments
I forgot about Maxim. I think that they need a youngish guy at the helm that is similar to Hef. Part of me also feels that the magazine format is dying. There needs to be more to the appeal of the magazine than the women and the few huge articles that they run. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > What is interesting is that Hefner "stole" the original iconic format for > Playboy magazine from his previous employer, Esquire Magazine, and put a > centerfold in the middle of it. Playboy is currently a horrible mishmash of > classic Playboy and Maxim. Esquire, after many reformats - some successful > and some not, is now a very vibrant magazine, young and jazzy and full of > attitude and ad pages. If I were running Playboy Magazine, I would steal > Esquire's current format and stick a centerfold in the middle. > > By the by, Christie Hefner, 57, stepped down as CEO in January 2009. > > ~rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > > > They need to reinvent themselves. Playboy changed over the years from > being > > cool and hip like Hugh but now it is dated and showing its age. From what > I > > hear Heffner's daughter runs most of the business now. I considered > > investing in them a couple of years back, but after studying them for a > > while I decided not to. Their stock has been pretty much stagnant. > > > > I think the younger magazines like Perfect 10, and FHM has given them a > run > > for their money without doing nudes. (perfect 10 does, FHM doesnt) The > key > > is the writers and the topics. I think that is what is missing. > > > > Back in the day, Playboy had things like cars, how to fix cool cocktails, > > and how to tie a winsor knot tie etc. They just don't have their fingers > on > > the pulse of the american male anymore. > > > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Kelwyn wrote: > > > > > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights > > > PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve > months > > > a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds > (Miss > > > January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A > magazine > > > that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. > > > Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old > girls > > > is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a > cash > > > cow, is now hemorrhaging money. > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for > his > > > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > > > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the > term > > > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says > his > > > member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly > Robinson > > > and Kerry Washington? > > > > > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too > damn > > > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > > > > > > > * > > > > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml > > > > > > > > John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely > tweeting > > > his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of > a > > > concert. > > > > > > > > But his latest foray into the familiar territory of > > > speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, > which > > > has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy > chat, the > > > 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with > Jennifer > > > Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter "sexual napalm"), his > sloppy > > > kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black > women. > > > > > > > > "I don't think I open myself to it," Mayer said of dating black > women. > > > "My d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart > and > > > a f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my > > > d---." > > > > > > > > Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. > Yet > > > Mayer also spoke about "why black people love me." > > > > > > > > "Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have > a > > > 'hood pass?' " he told Playboy. "And by the way, it's sort of a > > > contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you > could > > > call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a > 'hood > > > pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have > a > > > 'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and > been > > > told, 'We're full.' " > > > > > > > > Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile > romances. > > >
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments
yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would make one ask a question such as "Hood pass" in the first place of a white dude? - Original Message - From: "Kelwyn" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now hemorrhaging money. ~(no)rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his head? > Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's trying to > backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term "nig**a pass" > is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his member is racist > then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson and Kerry > Washington? > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn much. > Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > * > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml > > John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting his > innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a concert. > > But his latest foray into the familiar territory of > speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which > has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the > 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer > Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter "sexual napalm"), his sloppy > kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women. > > "I don't think I open myself to it," Mayer said of dating black women. "My > d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a > f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my d---." > > Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet > Mayer also spoke about "why black people love me." > > "Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a 'hood > pass?' " he told Playboy. "And by the way, it's sort of a contradiction in > terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could call it a n---a > pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood pass if you really > have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a 'hood pass.' I've never > walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been told, 'We're full.' " > > Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances. When > it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about the > intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence. > > "It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the > paparazzi into my life,' " he explained. "I really said, 'I now make the > choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to > stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs > aren't good for you if you do lots of them. Yeah, that girl is like crack > cocaine to me. ... Sexually it was crazy. That's all I'll say. It was like > napalm, sexual napalm." > > During the interview, Mayer also spoke about his ongoing feud with Perez > Hilton and how they once kissed at a club. "I remember seeing Perez Hilton > flitting about this club and acting as though he had just invented > homosexuality," he said. "All of a sudden I thought, I can out-gay this guy > right now. I grabbed him and gave him the dirtiest, tongue-iest kiss I have > ever put on anybody â€" almost as if I hated f--s." > > Perez has already hit back against Mayer, but so far the usually > Twitter-happy singer has not addressed any element of the Playboy interview. >
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments
I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other slacker white dude that's probably broke. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith wrote: > It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess > because John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there > was some sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was > considered to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. > > Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with > Kanye I never heard about their "hood pass." The funny thing is I've heard > more black folks comment about Maroon 5's r&b influenced sound than John > Mayer. > > The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self > inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF > does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke > kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like > sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson > wrote: > > > > yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What > would make one ask a question such as "Hood pass" in the first place of a > white dude? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kelwyn" > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, > Sexist Comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights > PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a > year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss > January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine > that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt > Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more > creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is > now hemorrhaging money. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson > wrote: > > > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his > member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson > and Kerry Washington? > > > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > > > > > * > > > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml > > > > > > John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely > tweeting his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle > of a concert. > > > > > > But his latest foray into the familiar territory of > speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, which > has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy chat, the > 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with Jennifer > Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter "sexual napalm"), his sloppy > kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to black women. > > > > > > "I don't think I open myself to it," Mayer said of dating black women. > "My d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and > a f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my > d---." > > > > > > Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. > Yet Mayer also spoke about "why black people love me." > > > > > > "Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a > 'hood pass?' " he told Playboy. "And by the way, it's sort of a > contradiction in terms, because if you really had a 'hood pass, you could > call it a n---a pass. Why are you pulling a punch and calling it a 'hood > pass if you really have a 'hood pass? But I said, 'I can't really have a > 'hood pass.' I've never walked into a restaurant, asked for a table and been > told, 'We're full.' " > > > > > > Mayer also delved into detail about his two most high-profile romances. > When it came to dating Simpson, Mayer said he didn't think very much about > the intrusion the paparazzi would make on his existence. > > > > > > "It wasn't as direct as me saying 'I now make the choice to bring the > paparazzi into my life,' " he explained. "I really said, 'I now make the > choice to sleep with Jessica Simpson.' That was stronger than my desire to > stay out of the paparazzi's eye. That girl, for me, is a drug. And drugs > are
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments
As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started with "well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended," and "it's okay I'm Black and I don't think he's racist." People date who they want but likening his penis to a 'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of 'hood pass' goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I don't even have time to go over what he said about Washington, too much history there. None of us need to defend him...he has enough of his own people to give him absolution. Off my soapbox now... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other slacker white dude that's probably broke. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith wrote: It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye I never heard about their "hood pass." The funny thing is I've heard more black folks comment about Maroon 5's r&b influenced sound than John Mayer. The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would > make one ask a question such as "Hood pass" in the first place of a white > dude? > > - Original Message - > From: "Kelwyn" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist > Comments > > > > > > > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY > magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now > issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and > Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once > fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque > Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than > titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now > hemorrhaging money. > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his > > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term > > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his > > member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson > > and Kerry Washington? > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn > > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > > > * > > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml > > > > John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting > > his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a > > concert. > > > > But his latest foray into the familiar territory of > > speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, > > which has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy > > chat, the 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with > > Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter "sexual napalm"), > > his sloppy kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to > > black women. > > > > "I don't think I open myself
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Good point. I think that African Americans have become apathetic when it comes to racial issues and racist remarks. Let's face it there are so many assholes like Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin that it makes comments like John Mayer's almost seem tame. On a side note, please don't interpret what I wrote as being apologetic for John Mayer or any other white person because that would be wrong. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:52 AM, shadaneca harbour wrote: > > > As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that > some of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the > article posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that > started with "well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended," and "it's okay > I'm Black and I don't think he's racist." People date who they want but > likening his penis to a 'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* > pass' (in lieu of 'hood pass' goes over the line in a way some Blacks have > forgotten about. I don't even have time to go over what he said about > Washington, too much history there. None of us need to defend him...he > has enough of his own people to give him absolution. Off my soapbox now... > > ------------------ > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, > Sexist Comments > > > I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass > because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any > other slacker white dude that's probably broke. > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith wrote: > > It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess > because John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there > was some sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was > considered to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. > > Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with > Kanye I never heard about their "hood pass." The funny thing is I've heard > more black folks comment about Maroon 5's r&b influenced sound than John > Mayer. > > The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self > inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF > does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke > kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like > sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson > wrote: > > > > yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What > would make one ask a question such as "Hood pass" in the first place of a > white dude? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kelwyn" > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, > Sexist Comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights > PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a > year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss > January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine > that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt > Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more > creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is > now hemorrhaging money. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson > wrote: > > > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his > member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson > and Kerry Washington? > > > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > > > > > * > > > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml > >
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Oh not at all. This was strictly a response to comments I read when the article was posted on Yahoo. To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:23:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments Good point. I think that African Americans have become apathetic when it comes to racial issues and racist remarks. Let's face it there are so many assholes like Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin that it makes comments like John Mayer's almost seem tame. On a side note, please don't interpret what I wrote as being apologetic for John Mayer or any other white person because that would be wrong. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:52 AM, shadaneca harbour wrote: As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started with "well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended," and "it's okay I'm Black and I don't think he's racist." People date who they want but likening his penis to a 'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of 'hood pass' goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I don't even have time to go over what he said about Washington, too much history there. None of us need to defend him...he has enough of his own people to give him absolution. Off my soapbox now... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other slacker white dude that's probably broke. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith wrote: It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye I never heard about their "hood pass." The funny thing is I've heard more black folks comment about Maroon 5's r&b influenced sound than John Mayer. The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would > make one ask a question such as "Hood pass" in the first place of a white > dude? > > - Original Message - > From: "Kelwyn" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist > Comments > > > > > > > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY > magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now > issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and > Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once > fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque > Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than > titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now > hemorrhaging money. > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his > > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term > > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his > > member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson > > and Kerry Washington? > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn > > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > > > * > > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.j
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Oh man, that's funny! - Original Message - From: "Mr. Worf" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 12:21:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other slacker white dude that's probably broke. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith < daikaij...@yahoo.com > wrote: It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye I never heard about their "hood pass." The funny thing is I've heard more black folks comment about Maroon 5's r&b influenced sound than John Mayer. The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would > make one ask a question such as "Hood pass" in the first place of a white > dude? > > - Original Message - > From: "Kelwyn" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist > Comments > > > > > > > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY > magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now > issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and > Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once > fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque > Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than > titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now > hemorrhaging money. > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his > > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term > > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his > > member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson > > and Kerry Washington? > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn > > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > > > * > > http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1631667/20100210/mayer_john.jhtml > > > > John Mayer has never been one to hold his tongue, whether freely tweeting > > his innermost thoughts or confessing his insecurities in the middle of a > > concert. > > > > But his latest foray into the familiar territory of > > speaking-his-mind-no-matter-the-consequences comes in a new interview, > > which has already unleashed a strong backlash online. During the lengthy > > chat, the 32-year-old rock star spoke brazenly about his relationships with > > Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson (calling the latter "sexual napalm"), > > his sloppy kiss with Perez Hilton and his lack of sexual attraction to > > black women. > > > > "I don't think I open myself to it," Mayer said of dating black women. "My > > d--- is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a > > f-' David Duke c---. I'm going to start dating separately from my > > d---." > > > > Such comments have already lit up the Internet with cries of racism. Yet > > Mayer also spoke about "why black people love me." > > > > "Someone asked me the other day, 'What does it feel like now to have a > > 'hood pass?' " he told Playboy. "And by the way, it's sort of a > > contradiction in terms, because if
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments
Amen. We just had a long discussion about racism and stuff in Hollywood, and I expressed frustration at how people are so hesitant to call stuff like it is. I heard a political pundit recently note that people are very hesitant to call the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, etc., "racist". Rather, they try very hard to call them "insensitive", "inartful", "clueless", "frank", "controversial". It makes me ill when people get such a pass. Racist is as racist does, and I can't see how Mayer's comments can be called anything but. - Original Message - From: "shadaneca harbour" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:52:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started with "well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended," and "it's okay I'm Black and I don't think he's racist." People date who they want but likening his penis to a 'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of 'hood pass' goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I don't even have time to go over what he said about Washington, too much history there. None of us need to defend him...he has enough of his own people to give him absolution. Off my soapbox now... To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any other slacker white dude that's probably broke. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith < daikaij...@yahoo.com > wrote: It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with Kanye I never heard about their "hood pass." The funny thing is I've heard more black folks comment about Maroon 5's r&b influenced sound than John Mayer. The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What would > make one ask a question such as "Hood pass" in the first place of a white > dude? > > - Original Message - > From: "Kelwyn" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist > Comments > > > > > > > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights PLAYBOY > magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months a year now > issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds (Miss January and > Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A magazine that was once > fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque > Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 year-old girls is more creepy than > titillating and the magazine, which used to be a cash cow, is now > hemorrhaging money. > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his > > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term > > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says his > > member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly Robinson > > and Kerry Washington? > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn > > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizar
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Thanks for the link...I love it! To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: ravena...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:28:22 + Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, Sexist Comments Thanks for decloaking. I am thinking of adding Shadaneca Harbor to the map of the World Ebon (http://www.theworldebon.blogspot.com/). ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, shadaneca harbour wrote: > > > As an AA female the thing that has bothered me most is the attitude that some > of us have had about his comments. I was reading some replies to the article > posted on Yahoo and I can't tell you how many replies I read that started > with "well I'm a Black female and I'm not offended," and "it's okay I'm Black > and I don't think he's racist." People date who they want but likening his > penis to a 'white supremiscist', and using the term 'n* pass' (in lieu of > 'hood pass' goes over the line in a way some Blacks have forgotten about. I > don't even have time to go over what he said about Washington, too much > history there. None of us need to defend him...he has enough of his own > people to give him absolution. Off my soapbox now... > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@... > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:21:04 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, > Sexist Comments > > > > > > I think John Mayer came up with the impression that he had a hood pass > because no body jumped him when he goes to buy weed. He does look like any > other slacker white dude that's probably broke. > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:43 AM, B Smith wrote: > > It was a really odd exchange since the interviewer was white. I guess because > John Mayer worked with Dave Chapelle, Kanye West and others there was some > sort of perception of honorary blackness. And I had no idea he was considered > to be sexy by some black women. That was a new one to me. > > Chris Martin from Coldplay and Adam Levine from Maroon 5 also worked with > Kanye I never heard about their "hood pass." The funny thing is I've heard > more black folks comment about Maroon 5's r&b influenced sound than John > Mayer. > > The most problematic thing to me is that this was a totally honest self > inflicted wound. The person that should be furious is Kerry Washington. WTF > does break your heart like a white girl mean? Good thing his David Duke > kept him from loving a black woman. If he thinks Jessica Simpson is like > sexual naplam and a crack addiction...lol. > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > yeah, I was curious about the nature of the interview at any rate. What > > would make one ask a question such as "Hood pass" in the first place of a > > white dude? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kelwyn" > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 6:51:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Waay OT: Singer Mayer Apologies for Racist, > > Sexist Comments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What this leaked interview demonstrates mostly is the dire straights > > PLAYBOY magazine is in. The magazine, which used to come out twelve months > > a year now issues a slight January/February issue with two centerfolds > > (Miss January and Miss February and their fact sheets)in the middle. A > > magazine that was once fat with ads will soon be so thin it will be a > > pamphlet. Crypt Keeper-esque Hugh Hefner sleeping (literally) with 20 > > year-old girls is more creepy than titillating and the magazine, which used > > to be a cash cow, is now hemorrhaging money. > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Keith Johnson wrote: > > > > > > Wow, if "retarded" was offensive, I I wonder if Palin will call for his > > > head? Funnier than the comments (which aren't funny) is how the idiot's > > > trying to backtrack and apologize. Explain to me again how using the term > > > "nig**a pass" is explaining the evils of racism? Or why a guy who says > > > his member is racist then talks about how he wants to get with Holly > > > Robinson and Kerry Washington? > > > > > > I tell you: people do themselves in more often just by talking too damn > > > much. Warning: this is offensive--and bizarre. > > > > > > ***
