Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record
What about the fusion reactor in France? I haven't heard much about it lately. Since syfy made that horrible movie about it blowing up and wiping out southern France. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Kewl! For years, after my first intention to be an astronomer, I was determined to be a nuclear physicist. Even visited a fusion reactor test system at UT-Austin. I love this stuff. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around a particle carrying mass, but boy am I excited to think about it, and some final understanding of why anti-matter didn't get produced in greater quantities. And guess what? No black holes opened up to swallow France (right wingnuts will be dismayed at that)...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)...no lethal radiation turned the Swiss into zombie mutants. The funny thing is the scientists who are actually *tweeting* about this like excited teenagers! My gosh, social networking is something else. Will the next astronauts to land on Mars or something, instead of saying something profound, pull out their phones and tweet? I can see it now: Really cold. Lots of red dirt. Johnson just fell, now his butt is red too. LOL. Wish u cld c it 2. --Starlover656 Geneva atom smasher sets collision record[AP News] . By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 33 mins ago GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher conducted its first experiments at conditions nearing those after the Big Bang, breaking its own record for high-energy collisions with proton beams crashing into each other Tuesday at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone for the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider's ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of 7 trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. That's it! They've had a collision, said Oliver Buchmueller from Imperial College in London as people closely watched monitors. In a control room, scientists erupted with applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, researchers hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago. The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics, such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson, a hypothetical particle that scientists theorize gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant the protons had to be dumped from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on Sept. 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 meters) below the ground. It cost $40 million to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next largest accelerator — the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago. Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions around the tunnel, the coldest place in the universe, at a couple of degrees above absolute zero. CERN used powerful superconducting magnets to force the two beams to cross, creating collisions and showers of particles. Experiments are collecting their first physics data — historic moment here! a scientist tweeted on CERN's official Twitter account. Nature does it all the time with cosmic rays (and with higher energy) but this is the first time this is done in Laboratory! said another tweet. When collisions become routine, the beams will be packed with hundreds of billions of protons, but the particles are so tiny that few will collide at each crossing. The experiments will come over the objections of some people who fear they could
Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record
That movie was odd. It had some potential, but just degenerated into a mess. I wasn't aware it was based on a real life site. They have a large test fusion reactor in France? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:42:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record What about the fusion reactor in France? I haven't heard much about it lately. Since syfy made that horrible movie about it blowing up and wiping out southern France. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Kewl! For years, after my first intention to be an astronomer, I was determined to be a nuclear physicist. Even visited a fusion reactor test system at UT-Austin. I love this stuff. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around a particle carrying mass, but boy am I excited to think about it, and some final understanding of why anti-matter didn't get produced in greater quantities. And guess what? No black holes opened up to swallow France (right wingnuts will be dismayed at that)...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)...no lethal radiation turned the Swiss into zombie mutants. The funny thing is the scientists who are actually *tweeting* about this like excited teenagers! My gosh, social networking is something else. Will the next astronauts to land on Mars or something, instead of saying something profound, pull out their phones and tweet? I can see it now: Really cold. Lots of red dirt. Johnson just fell, now his butt is red too. LOL. Wish u cld c it 2. --Starlover656 Geneva atom smasher sets collision record [AP News] . By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 33 mins ago GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher conducted its first experiments at conditions nearing those after the Big Bang, breaking its own record for high-energy collisions with proton beams crashing into each other Tuesday at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone for the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider 's ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of 7 trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. That's it! They've had a collision, said Oliver Buchmueller from Imperial College in London as people closely watched monitors. In a control room, scientists erupted with applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, researchers hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago. The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics , such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson , a hypothetical particle that scientists theorize gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant the protons had to be dumped from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on Sept. 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 meters) below the ground. It cost $40 million to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next largest accelerator — the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago. Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions around the tunnel, the coldest place in the universe, at a couple of degrees above absolute zero. CERN used powerful superconducting magnets to force the two beams to cross, creating collisions and showers of particles. Experiments are collecting their first physics data — historic moment here! a scientist
Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record
Yup. I have posted on it. Here is their official website: http://www.iter.org/default.aspx On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: That movie was odd. It had some potential, but just degenerated into a mess. I wasn't aware it was based on a real life site. They have a large test fusion reactor in France? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:42:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record What about the fusion reactor in France? I haven't heard much about it lately. Since syfy made that horrible movie about it blowing up and wiping out southern France. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Kewl! For years, after my first intention to be an astronomer, I was determined to be a nuclear physicist. Even visited a fusion reactor test system at UT-Austin. I love this stuff. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around a particle carrying mass, but boy am I excited to think about it, and some final understanding of why anti-matter didn't get produced in greater quantities. And guess what? No black holes opened up to swallow France (right wingnuts will be dismayed at that)...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)...no lethal radiation turned the Swiss into zombie mutants. The funny thing is the scientists who are actually *tweeting* about this like excited teenagers! My gosh, social networking is something else. Will the next astronauts to land on Mars or something, instead of saying something profound, pull out their phones and tweet? I can see it now: Really cold. Lots of red dirt. Johnson just fell, now his butt is red too. LOL. Wish u cld c it 2. --Starlover656 Geneva atom smasher sets collision record[AP News] . By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 33 mins ago GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher conducted its first experiments at conditions nearing those after the Big Bang, breaking its own record for high-energy collisions with proton beams crashing into each other Tuesday at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone for the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider's ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of 7 trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. That's it! They've had a collision, said Oliver Buchmueller from Imperial College in London as people closely watched monitors. In a control room, scientists erupted with applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, researchers hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago. The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics, such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson, a hypothetical particle that scientists theorize gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant the protons had to be dumped from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on Sept. 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 meters) below the ground. It cost $40 million to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next largest accelerator — the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago. Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions around the tunnel, the coldest place in the universe, at a couple of degrees above absolute zero. CERN used powerful superconducting magnets
Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record
...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla) LMNAATWO [?] And this is cool stuff indeed. Strangely enough, as I read this, Keith, I'm watching Angels Demons, in which CERN figures prominently. Need to chase this down a bit more, once I finish this run, because they're closer to nailing the Higgs boson. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.netwrote: Kewl! For years, after my first intention to be an astronomer, I was determined to be a nuclear physicist. Even visited a fusion reactor test system at UT-Austin. I love this stuff. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around a particle carrying mass, but boy am I excited to think about it, and some final understanding of why anti-matter didn't get produced in greater quantities. And guess what? No black holes opened up to swallow France (right wingnuts will be dismayed at that)...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)...no lethal radiation turned the Swiss into zombie mutants. The funny thing is the scientists who are actually *tweeting* about this like excited teenagers! My gosh, social networking is something else. Will the next astronauts to land on Mars or something, instead of saying something profound, pull out their phones and tweet? I can see it now: Really cold. Lots of red dirt. Johnson just fell, now his butt is red too. LOL. Wish u cld c it 2. --Starlover656 Geneva atom smasher sets collision record[AP News] . By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 33 mins ago GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher conducted its first experiments at conditions nearing those after the Big Bang, breaking its own record for high-energy collisions with proton beams crashing into each other Tuesday at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone for the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider's ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of 7 trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. That's it! They've had a collision, said Oliver Buchmueller from Imperial College in London as people closely watched monitors. In a control room, scientists erupted with applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, researchers hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago. The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics, such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson, a hypothetical particle that scientists theorize gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant the protons had to be dumped from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on Sept. 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 meters) below the ground. It cost $40 million to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next largest accelerator — the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago. Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions around the tunnel, the coldest place in the universe, at a couple of degrees above absolute zero. CERN used powerful superconducting magnets to force the two beams to cross, creating collisions and showers of particles. Experiments are collecting their first physics data — historic moment here! a scientist tweeted on CERN's official Twitter account. Nature does it all the time with cosmic rays (and with higher energy) but this is the first time this is done in
Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record
The aliens will be here in 2012 right after the earthquakes. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: ...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla) LMNAATWO [?] And this is cool stuff indeed. Strangely enough, as I read this, Keith, I'm watching Angels Demons, in which CERN figures prominently. Need to chase this down a bit more, once I finish this run, because they're closer to nailing the Higgs boson. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Kewl! For years, after my first intention to be an astronomer, I was determined to be a nuclear physicist. Even visited a fusion reactor test system at UT-Austin. I love this stuff. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around a particle carrying mass, but boy am I excited to think about it, and some final understanding of why anti-matter didn't get produced in greater quantities. And guess what? No black holes opened up to swallow France (right wingnuts will be dismayed at that)...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)...no lethal radiation turned the Swiss into zombie mutants. The funny thing is the scientists who are actually *tweeting* about this like excited teenagers! My gosh, social networking is something else. Will the next astronauts to land on Mars or something, instead of saying something profound, pull out their phones and tweet? I can see it now: Really cold. Lots of red dirt. Johnson just fell, now his butt is red too. LOL. Wish u cld c it 2. --Starlover656 Geneva atom smasher sets collision record[AP News] . By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 33 mins ago GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher conducted its first experiments at conditions nearing those after the Big Bang, breaking its own record for high-energy collisions with proton beams crashing into each other Tuesday at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone for the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider's ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of 7 trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. That's it! They've had a collision, said Oliver Buchmueller from Imperial College in London as people closely watched monitors. In a control room, scientists erupted with applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, researchers hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago. The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics, such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson, a hypothetical particle that scientists theorize gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant the protons had to be dumped from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on Sept. 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 meters) below the ground. It cost $40 million to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next largest accelerator — the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago. Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions around the tunnel, the coldest place in the universe, at a couple of degrees above absolute zero. CERN used powerful superconducting magnets to force the two beams to cross, creating collisions and showers of particles. Experiments are collecting their first physics data — historic moment here! a scientist tweeted on
Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record
[?][?][?][?] On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com wrote: The aliens will be here in 2012 right after the earthquakes. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Martin Baxter martinbaxt...@gmail.comwrote: ...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla) LMNAATWO [?] And this is cool stuff indeed. Strangely enough, as I read this, Keith, I'm watching Angels Demons, in which CERN figures prominently. Need to chase this down a bit more, once I finish this run, because they're closer to nailing the Higgs boson. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Kewl! For years, after my first intention to be an astronomer, I was determined to be a nuclear physicist. Even visited a fusion reactor test system at UT-Austin. I love this stuff. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around a particle carrying mass, but boy am I excited to think about it, and some final understanding of why anti-matter didn't get produced in greater quantities. And guess what? No black holes opened up to swallow France (right wingnuts will be dismayed at that)...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)...no lethal radiation turned the Swiss into zombie mutants. The funny thing is the scientists who are actually *tweeting* about this like excited teenagers! My gosh, social networking is something else. Will the next astronauts to land on Mars or something, instead of saying something profound, pull out their phones and tweet? I can see it now: Really cold. Lots of red dirt. Johnson just fell, now his butt is red too. LOL. Wish u cld c it 2. --Starlover656 Geneva atom smasher sets collision record[AP News] . By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 33 mins ago GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher conducted its first experiments at conditions nearing those after the Big Bang, breaking its own record for high-energy collisions with proton beams crashing into each other Tuesday at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone for the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider's ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of 7 trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. That's it! They've had a collision, said Oliver Buchmueller from Imperial College in London as people closely watched monitors. In a control room, scientists erupted with applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, researchers hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago. The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics, such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson, a hypothetical particle that scientists theorize gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant the protons had to be dumped from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on Sept. 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 meters) below the ground. It cost $40 million to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next largest accelerator — the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago. Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions around the tunnel, the coldest place in the universe, at a couple of degrees above absolute zero. CERN used powerful superconducting magnets to force the two beams to cross, creating collisions and showers of particles.
Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record
cool - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:44:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record Yup. I have posted on it. Here is their official website: http://www.iter.org/default.aspx On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: That movie was odd. It had some potential, but just degenerated into a mess. I wasn't aware it was based on a real life site. They have a large test fusion reactor in France? - Original Message - From: Mr. Worf hellomahog...@gmail.com To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:42:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record What about the fusion reactor in France? I haven't heard much about it lately. Since syfy made that horrible movie about it blowing up and wiping out southern France. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Kewl! For years, after my first intention to be an astronomer, I was determined to be a nuclear physicist. Even visited a fusion reactor test system at UT-Austin. I love this stuff. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around a particle carrying mass, but boy am I excited to think about it, and some final understanding of why anti-matter didn't get produced in greater quantities. And guess what? No black holes opened up to swallow France (right wingnuts will be dismayed at that)...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)...no lethal radiation turned the Swiss into zombie mutants. The funny thing is the scientists who are actually *tweeting* about this like excited teenagers! My gosh, social networking is something else. Will the next astronauts to land on Mars or something, instead of saying something profound, pull out their phones and tweet? I can see it now: Really cold. Lots of red dirt. Johnson just fell, now his butt is red too. LOL. Wish u cld c it 2. --Starlover656 Geneva atom smasher sets collision record [AP News] . By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 33 mins ago GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher conducted its first experiments at conditions nearing those after the Big Bang, breaking its own record for high-energy collisions with proton beams crashing into each other Tuesday at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone for the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider 's ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of 7 trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. That's it! They've had a collision, said Oliver Buchmueller from Imperial College in London as people closely watched monitors. In a control room, scientists erupted with applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, researchers hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago. The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics , such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson , a hypothetical particle that scientists theorize gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant the protons had to be dumped from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on Sept. 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 meters) below the ground. It cost $40 million to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next
Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record
"Angels and Demons" is an odd film. The science behind the anti-matter is dubious at best- Original Message -From: "Martin Baxter" martinbaxt...@gmail.comTo: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:36:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada EasternSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] Successful Geneva Atom Smasher Sets Collision Record "...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)"LMNAATWO And this is cool stuff indeed. Strangely enough, as I read this, Keith, I'm watching "Angels Demons", in which CERN figures prominently. Need to chase this down a bit more, once I finish this run, because they're closer to nailing the Higgs boson. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Keith Johnson keithbjohn...@comcast.net wrote: Kewl! For years, after my first intention to be an astronomer, I was determined to be a nuclear physicist. Even visited a fusion reactor test system at UT-Austin. I love this stuff. I'm still trying to wrap my mind around a "particle" carrying mass, but boy am I excited to think about it, and some final understanding of why anti-matter didn't get produced in greater quantities. And guess what? No black holes opened up to swallow France (right wingnuts will be dismayed at that)...no other-dimensional evil aliens swarmed through a rip in spacetime to eat our souls and brains (too bad, I could have sent them to Wasilla)...no lethal radiation turned the Swiss into zombie mutants. The funny thing is the scientists who are actually *tweeting* about this like excited teenagers! My gosh, social networking is something else. Will the next astronauts to land on Mars or something, instead of saying something profound, pull out their phones and tweet? I can see it now: "Really cold. Lots of red dirt. Johnson just fell, now his butt is red too. LOL. Wish u cld c it 2. --Starlover656" Geneva atom smasher sets collision record[AP News]. By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer Alexander G. Higgins, Associated Press Writer – 33minsago GENEVA – The world's largest atom smasher conducted its first experiments at conditions nearing those after the Big Bang, breaking its own record for high-energy collisions with proton beams crashing into each other Tuesday at three times more force than ever before. In a milestone for the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider's ambitious bid to reveal details about theoretical particles and microforces, scientists at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, collided the beams and took measurements at a combined energy level of 7 trillion electron volts. The collisions herald a new era for researchers working on the machine in a 17-mile (27-kilometer) tunnel below the Swiss-French border at Geneva. "That's it! They've had a collision," said Oliver Buchmueller from Imperial College in London as people closely watched monitors. In a control room, scientists erupted with applause when the first successful collisions were confirmed. Their colleagues from around the world were tuning in by remote links to witness the new record, which surpasses the 2.36 TeV CERN recorded last year. Dubbed the world's largest scientific experiment, researchers hope the machine can approach on a tiny scale what happened in the first split seconds after the Big Bang, which they theorize was the creation of the universe some 14 billion years ago. The extra energy in Geneva is expected to reveal even more about the unanswered questions of particle physics, such as the existence of antimatter and the search for the Higgs boson, a hypothetical particle that scientists theorize gives mass to other particles and thus to other objects and creatures in the universe. Tuesday's initial attempts at collisions were unsuccessful because problems developed with the beams, said scientists working on the massive machine. That meant the protons had to be "dumped" from the collider and new beams had to be injected. The atmosphere at CERN was tense considering the collider's launch with great fanfare on Sept. 10, 2008. Nine days later, the project was sidetracked when a badly soldered electrical splice overheated, causing extensive damage to the massive magnets and other parts of the collider some 300 feet (100 meters) below the ground. It cost $40 million to repair and improve the machine. Since its restart in November 2009, the collider has performed almost flawlessly and given scientists valuable data. It quickly eclipsed the next largest accelerator — the Tevatron at Fermilab near Chicago. Two beams of protons began 10 days ago to speed at high energy in opposite directions aro
