Re: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
yes indeed. and Jeffrey Combs as Wayun was great. I know at least a couple of his clones were killed by the one Founder who spoke for the race, due to failures in his performance. And Worf killed the last clone toward the end of the series. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I liked them as villains because on their behalf they had two villians by proxy - the Jem hadar (sp) and the clones ( can't remember them [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My vote would be for the Dominion, led by the Changelings on Deep Space Nine. Here were a people with a tragic past (as they tell it) of millennia of abuse at the hands of Solids, who finally decided to control others before they could be hurt. As a formerly oppressed people, they brought an unending pain to their new world view, and nothing was off limits: destroying whole planets or races, genetically engineering soldier and servant races, killing off clones (like Wayun (sp?)) and bringing new ones out of storage like a new set of clothes. Remember when they decided on their Scorched Earth policy on the Cardassian home world as punishment for the people rising up against them? The Changelings were frightening in their self-assured, calculating arrogance. heck, they put the arrogance of the Romulans to shame! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I like Hathor and Nerte. The new replicators are interesting RaAyyMOND C wrote: Fav Group of villians: The Romulains. The Gouald. Fav female villians: Species alien. Hathor, from SG-1. Nerte, from SG-1. Fav male villian: Apophis Fav comic villain: THANOS of Titan. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Fav Group of villians: The Romulains. The Gouald. Fav female villians: Species alien. Hathor, from SG-1. Nerte, from SG-1. Fav male villian: Apophis Fav comic villain: THANOS of Titan. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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How did I forget about Thanos, after the turn he did in Annihilation? RaAyyMOND C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fav Group of villians: The Romulains. The Gouald. Fav female villians: Species alien. Hathor, from SG-1. Nerte, from SG-1. Fav male villian: Apophis Fav comic villain: THANOS of Titan. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I like Hathor and Nerte. The new replicators are interesting RaAyyMOND C wrote: Fav Group of villians: The Romulains. The Gouald. Fav female villians: Species alien. Hathor, from SG-1. Nerte, from SG-1. Fav male villian: Apophis Fav comic villain: THANOS of Titan. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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My vote would be for the Dominion, led by the Changelings on Deep Space Nine. Here were a people with a tragic past (as they tell it) of millennia of abuse at the hands of Solids, who finally decided to control others before they could be hurt. As a formerly oppressed people, they brought an unending pain to their new world view, and nothing was off limits: destroying whole planets or races, genetically engineering soldier and servant races, killing off clones (like Wayun (sp?)) and bringing new ones out of storage like a new set of clothes. Remember when they decided on their Scorched Earth policy on the Cardassian home world as punishment for the people rising up against them? The Changelings were frightening in their self-assured, calculating arrogance. heck, they put the arrogance of the Romulans to shame! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like Hathor and Nerte. The new replicators are interesting RaAyyMOND C wrote: Fav Group of villians: The Romulains. The Gouald. Fav female villians: Species alien. Hathor, from SG-1. Nerte, from SG-1. Fav male villian: Apophis Fav comic villain: THANOS of Titan. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I liked them as villains because on their behalf they had two villians by proxy - the Jem hadar (sp) and the clones ( can't remember them [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My vote would be for the Dominion, led by the Changelings on Deep Space Nine. Here were a people with a tragic past (as they tell it) of millennia of abuse at the hands of Solids, who finally decided to control others before they could be hurt. As a formerly oppressed people, they brought an unending pain to their new world view, and nothing was off limits: destroying whole planets or races, genetically engineering soldier and servant races, killing off clones (like Wayun (sp?)) and bringing new ones out of storage like a new set of clothes. Remember when they decided on their Scorched Earth policy on the Cardassian home world as punishment for the people rising up against them? The Changelings were frightening in their self-assured, calculating arrogance. heck, they put the arrogance of the Romulans to shame! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I like Hathor and Nerte. The new replicators are interesting RaAyyMOND C wrote: Fav Group of villians: The Romulains. The Gouald. Fav female villians: Species alien. Hathor, from SG-1. Nerte, from SG-1. Fav male villian: Apophis Fav comic villain: THANOS of Titan. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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WOW! I never knew the whole story behind the Dominion. I stopped watching a little before the Dominion War started. Both the Dominion and the Romulans are both arrogant racists. A xenophobia fueled by past wars of aggression from other races against theirs. And in the case of the Romulans, from a refusal to give up their war like heritage. However, from what I have just read, I would have to say that the Dominion have a better reason to fear other races. Mainly because of the past conquest, ill-treatment and abominations committed against them, by solids. The Romulans on the other hand have a good idea that the Federation will not instigate a war of aggression against them. They would not have known this during the Feds blundered first contact. Which lead to the first Romulan/Federation conflict. Any aggressive actions now toward the Federation are more or less fueled by the same militaristic thinking that made them split from Vulcan. I my opinion, the Dominium are more paranoid. The Romulans are just needlessly arrogant. Except toward the Klingons. I can side with almost any argument for a preemptive strike against them. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Speaking of ladies (and using the Wayback Machine), Servalan, from Blake's 7. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good one. But that reminds me... SCORPIUS!!! I really enjoyed him buky90 wrote: the female commander from farside. just to remind us whos more dangerous of the species, and when she was pregnant she got more vicious On 12/12/07, Martin wrote: IMO, the best kind of villain is the Operative type. A guy who's just doing his job, albeit a job whose morals the masses might call into question. Deity. I just validated Mister Bush. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy the way, I love the operative. Sure wish we could see more of him Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Baby Borg (heads exploding around the world at the concept...) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the low point for me was the introduction of Hugh in TNG. The Borg that Geordi adopted, which developed full human emotions after being cut off from the Collective. That character destroyed the whole concept of the Borg. Then came Seven of Nine, the Baby Borg, the Queen--aagh!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I totally agree. . That first episode was fantastic and I liked first contact, but there after I became less enamored with them [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Borg started out scary, then were weakened in my opinion. When they were a mass intelligence with no individual leader, they were fearsome. When they brought in the Queen, with her posing and posturing, I lost interest. I also hated the way they were so weakened. some of the holes in their systems were stupid: the Borg only care about an active threat, so you can beam aboard any given Cube and chill out as long as you don't break anything? You can penetrate their electromagnetic shields with a shuttle or transporter beam? In the midst of a huge battle, Data put them to sleep give me a break!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) What about the Borg? are they two one dimensional? When they first came out, they blew me away. What about Agent Smith on the Matrix Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Boscowrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
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Re: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
See? Ya feelin¹ me on the Blake¹s 7! NOBODY had bad guys like Blake¹s 7. And no bad guy has ever dressed as well as Supreme Commander Servalan! On 12/13/07 5:45 PM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of ladies (and using the Wayback Machine), Servalan, from Blake's 7. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Good one. But that reminds me... SCORPIUS!!! I really enjoyed him buky90 wrote: the female commander from farside. just to remind us whos more dangerous of the species, and when she was pregnant she got more vicious On 12/12/07, Martin wrote: IMO, the best kind of villain is the Operative type. A guy who's just doing his job, albeit a job whose morals the masses might call into question. Deity. I just validated Mister Bush. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Buy the way, I love the operative. Sure wish we could see more of him Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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yeah, they drove me up the wall. Reminds me of all the cartoons that have to create kiddie versions of popular characters... -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baby Borg (heads exploding around the world at the concept...) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the low point for me was the introduction of Hugh in TNG. The Borg that Geordi adopted, which developed full human emotions after being cut off from the Collective. That character destroyed the whole concept of the Borg. Then came Seven of Nine, the Baby Borg, the Queen--aagh!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I totally agree. . That first episode was fantastic and I liked first contact, but there after I became less enamored with them [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Borg started out scary, then were weakened in my opinion. When they were a mass intelligence with no individual leader, they were fearsome. When they brought in the Queen, with her posing and posturing, I lost interest. I also hated the way they were so weakened. some of the holes in their systems were stupid: the Borg only care about an active threat, so you can beam aboard any given Cube and chill out as long as you don't break anything? You can penetrate their electromagnetic shields with a shuttle or transporter beam? In the midst of a huge battle, Data put them to sleep give me a break!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) What about the Borg? are they two one dimensional? When they first came out, they blew me away. What about Agent Smith on the Matrix Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Boscowrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text
Re: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations.his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Ooh Ooh Ooh Me too me too. That's the problem with just throwing things out off the top of your head, you always leave behind some great options. I LOVE LOVE LOVE The Operative character. I also loved Jubal Early from the Objects in Space episode of Firefly. I wish Joss Whedon would do a post Serenity work involving the Operative. Bosco --- Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations.his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Daryle, the *entire cast* of Blake's 7? No! Kerr Avon was as innocent and pure as an angel! :P Seriously, had another to add, but it slipped my brain. I'll be back. Hey, there's one. Ah-nuld, the original Tehr-minat-uh. Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Buy the way, I love the operative. Sure wish we could see more of him Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ironpigs3%40yahoo.com wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
What about the Borg? are they two one dimensional? When they first came out, they blew me away. What about Agent Smith on the Matrix Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ironpigs3%40yahoo.com wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
The Borg started out scary, then were weakened in my opinion. When they were a mass intelligence with no individual leader, they were fearsome. When they brought in the Queen, with her posing and posturing, I lost interest. I also hated the way they were so weakened. some of the holes in their systems were stupid: the Borg only care about an active threat, so you can beam aboard any given Cube and chill out as long as you don't break anything? You can penetrate their electromagnetic shields with a shuttle or transporter beam? In the midst of a huge battle, Data put them to sleep give me a break!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about the Borg? are they two one dimensional? When they first came out, they blew me away. What about Agent Smith on the Matrix Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Boscowrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Exactly, Keith. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Borg started out scary, then were weakened in my opinion. When they were a mass intelligence with no individual leader, they were fearsome. When they brought in the Queen, with her posing and posturing, I lost interest. I also hated the way they were so weakened. some of the holes in their systems were stupid: the Borg only care about an active threat, so you can beam aboard any given Cube and chill out as long as you don't break anything? You can penetrate their electromagnetic shields with a shuttle or transporter beam? In the midst of a huge battle, Data put them to sleep give me a break!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) What about the Borg? are they two one dimensional? When they first came out, they blew me away. What about Agent Smith on the Matrix Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Boscowrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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IMO, the best kind of villain is the Operative type. A guy who's just doing his job, albeit a job whose morals the masses might call into question. Deity. I just validated Mister Bush. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy the way, I love the operative. Sure wish we could see more of him Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Agent Smith- another example of the type of villain I quoted. As for the Borg, they're just sadly mis-written. Blame the Killer Bees. Please. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the Borg? are they two one dimensional? When they first came out, they blew me away. What about Agent Smith on the Matrix Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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the female commander from farside. just to remind us whos more dangerous of the species, and when she was pregnant she got more vicious On 12/12/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, the best kind of villain is the Operative type. A guy who's just doing his job, albeit a job whose morals the masses might call into question. Deity. I just validated Mister Bush. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Buy the way, I love the operative. Sure wish we could see more of him Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
I totally agree. . That first episode was fantastic and I liked first contact, but there after I became less enamored with them [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Borg started out scary, then were weakened in my opinion. When they were a mass intelligence with no individual leader, they were fearsome. When they brought in the Queen, with her posing and posturing, I lost interest. I also hated the way they were so weakened. some of the holes in their systems were stupid: the Borg only care about an active threat, so you can beam aboard any given Cube and chill out as long as you don't break anything? You can penetrate their electromagnetic shields with a shuttle or transporter beam? In the midst of a huge battle, Data put them to sleep give me a break!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about the Borg? are they two one dimensional? When they first came out, they blew me away. What about Agent Smith on the Matrix Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Boscowrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Favorite Villain Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Heroes finale
the low point for me was the introduction of Hugh in TNG. The Borg that Geordi adopted, which developed full human emotions after being cut off from the Collective. That character destroyed the whole concept of the Borg. Then came Seven of Nine, the Baby Borg, the Queen--aagh!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I totally agree. . That first episode was fantastic and I liked first contact, but there after I became less enamored with them [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Borg started out scary, then were weakened in my opinion. When they were a mass intelligence with no individual leader, they were fearsome. When they brought in the Queen, with her posing and posturing, I lost interest. I also hated the way they were so weakened. some of the holes in their systems were stupid: the Borg only care about an active threat, so you can beam aboard any given Cube and chill out as long as you don't break anything? You can penetrate their electromagnetic shields with a shuttle or transporter beam? In the midst of a huge battle, Data put them to sleep give me a break!! -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) What about the Borg? are they two one dimensional? When they first came out, they blew me away. What about Agent Smith on the Matrix Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Boscowrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Good one. But that reminds me... SCORPIUS!!! I really enjoyed him buky90 wrote: the female commander from farside. just to remind us whos more dangerous of the species, and when she was pregnant she got more vicious On 12/12/07, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: IMO, the best kind of villain is the Operative type. A guy who's just doing his job, albeit a job whose morals the masses might call into question. Deity. I just validated Mister Bush. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Buy the way, I love the operative. Sure wish we could see more of him Daryle wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I need to forget about waiting for the Friday marathon and crack out my DVD set... Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ooh Ooh Ooh Me too me too. That's the problem with just throwing things out off the top of your head, you always leave behind some great options. I LOVE LOVE LOVE The Operative character. I also loved Jubal Early from the Objects in Space episode of Firefly. I wish Joss Whedon would do a post Serenity work involving the Operative. Bosco --- Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hal not only counts, it counts as the best developed villain of all! Good choice! My short list has to include the Tyrell Corporation (yes, the whole corporation) of ³Blade Runner², The entire cast of ³Blake¹s 7², Elijah from ³Unbreakable², The Operative (Chiwetel Ejiofor¹s character) from ³Serenity², and of course...the Cardassians. On 12/12/07 1:07 PM, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's so many good villains to choose from. I'm a villain lover actually. In no particular order here's some faves off the top of my head. Darth Vader, Baron Harkonnen, The Reavers from Firefly/Serenity, Dr. John Whorfin, Spike, and The Others on Lost. Do Q and Hal count as villains? I count them as such I suppose. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: One of my favorite villians is Ra's Al Ghul from Batman. He seems to be one of the more fleshed out villains. I love his back flash stories and how they reveal his motivations. his relationship with Batman is never Black and White. Mike Street wrote: I like well developed villains. I think Magneto is excellent cause he has a clear cut purpose, a past, and goal with what he's trying to do. Or the Joker cause he's nut's and can't tell right from wrong anymore. I do think the good guys are to GOOD. I always wanted the Legion of Doom to kick the good guys ass once and a while..just for a reality check. My favorite was when Batman got his ass kicked and was out and the Azreal came in to take his place and was kicking everyone ass. Them stupid Batman comes back to kick his ass. I was like this is bull shit. I personally like the eviler Batman and was hoping that Bruce Wane would retire for good. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
