[SciFiNoir Lit] Kindred's 25th Anniversary Edition sells 250,000 copies
http://books.google.com/books?id=89-2ZXYsuAQC&dq=Kindred&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=bwjvSdShKpDcMf2E-AI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4#PPP1,M1 What is heartening is that the 25th anniversary edition of Kindred has sold 250.000 copies. I pray the late, great Ms. Butler lived to see this victory in the marketplace. I also adore the dark-skinned woman on the color. When I bought the original editions of Butler's novels, the publishers went to great lengths to conceal the color of her heroines. Lastly, it is fascinating to me how publishers will ignore the fact that this book sold a quarter million copies and will do nothing to supply similar product to the consumers who devoured this. ~rave! __ http://theworldebon.blogspot.com
[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: essay on Octavia Butlers Kindred
"Kindred" is a very visceral novel and, while it is one of Butler's most popular (mainly because it is one of her most accessible novels - using themes most Americans are familiar with), I don't think it is one of her best (I nominate the "Parable" duology). I, too, had trouble reading it - but I was more disturbed by her coming back to her white(blonde?) husband bruised and abused from her time as a slave and how it NEVER colored her relationship or made her question the "master/slave" dynamic of it, even as her neighbors began to suspect her kind and caring (aren't all of Butler's lily white heroes "kind and caring"?) or spousal abuse. The paragraph below is very interesting and thought provoking. I am disheartened that nearly thirty years after Butler published "Kindred" I know it is still necessary to conceal the color of my hero for as long as possible in my novel in progress. Sad. ~(no)rave! --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "md_moore42" wrote: > On this reading, I wondered if Butler had deliberately made Dana a kind of Hari Kumar, a character who is white in all but appearance who is then suddenly forced to confront the reality of being judged by that appearance and forced into a very unwelcome box by it. If that was Butler's choiceand the concealment of Dana's skin color for the first thirty pages of the book seems to be another piece of evidence for thisI wonder if she might have done it to make it an easier identification for white readers, not to stir up present day issues but to get right to what she wanted to talk about. >
Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] ...is anybody reading ANYTHING?
(I am re reading it, too, after seeing "The Tales of The Black Freighter" and re-viewing the film again. Funny how the film and dvd kept hitting those lines and scenes from the book and I would key on the image from the book, Dave Simmons work and the movie absolutely hit that scene--the director even portrayed some better. That is the ultimate fanboy superhero experience--again, it will be sort of like a cult film-- While I was watching the film again I watched with two minds--fanboy mind in which the comic is imprinted on my brain--and unattached objective mind, which was wondering what the hell all this was about. Totally useless to anybody who is not a diehard historian of the genre--I know the hope. That "Watchmen" will infect the world. It was not to be. The rest of the world wants Super-heroes. Not Masks. Or Watchmen. --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" wrote: > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > What are you reading?>> > > > I am reading Alan Moore's graphic novel "Watchmen" (and enjoying the hell out > of it) and the "Octavian Nothing" duology (I adore the language). Although > the two Octavian Nothing books take place in pre revolutionary America, they > are about a preternaturally gifted young black slave plopped into a strange > new world and his first person account of trying to rationally navigate that > maddingly contradictory world. > > ~rave! > > http://theworldebon.blogspot.com >
[SciFiNoir Lit] OT: Script P.I.M.P
What do you guys think of this? open:http://www.scriptpi mp.com/tv/ home.cfm
Re: [SciFiNoir Lit] ...is anybody reading ANYTHING?
In reading "Watchmen," I am most struck by the God, Man and Superman subtext of all the "Who is killing the Masks" drama. Moore posits the notion that there is no God and in the absense of God man must create one while simultaneously arguing that IF there is a God He would be as detached and removed from day-to-day human interaction as Dr. Manhattan. ~rave! --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hayden" wrote: > > (I am re reading it, too, after seeing "The Tales of The Black Freighter" and > re-viewing the film again. > > Funny how the film and dvd kept hitting those lines and scenes from the book > and I would key on the image from the book, Dave Simmons work and the movie > absolutely hit that scene--the director even portrayed some better. > > That is the ultimate fanboy superhero experience--again, it will be sort of > like a cult film-- > > While I was watching the film again I watched with two minds--fanboy mind in > which the comic is imprinted on my brain--and unattached objective mind, > which was wondering what the hell all this was about. > > Totally useless to anybody who is not a diehard historian of the genre--I > know the hope. That "Watchmen" will infect the world. > > It was not to be. > > The rest of the world wants Super-heroes. > > Not Masks. Or Watchmen. > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" wrote: > > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > > > What are you reading?>> > > > > > > I am reading Alan Moore's graphic novel "Watchmen" (and enjoying the hell > > out of it) and the "Octavian Nothing" duology (I adore the language). > > Although the two Octavian Nothing books take place in pre revolutionary > > America, they are about a preternaturally gifted young black slave plopped > > into a strange new world and his first person account of trying to > > rationally navigate that maddingly contradictory world. > > > > ~rave! > > > > http://theworldebon.blogspot.com > > >
[SciFiNoir Lit] Re: OT: Best African American Fiction 2009
(You want to expand your markets? All the English speakers are not in the U.S.--write stuff for the English speaking market would include North America, the Caribbean, Africa, would include India, and the whole net of English speakers all over the world) --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "ravenadal" wrote: > > Some day, eye too will live in a happy, happy, joy, joy world. > > ~rave! > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "md_moore42" wrote: > > > > Hear!Hear! > > We really need to stop being so insular. > > > > > > --- In SciFiNoir_Lit@yahoogroups.com, "Chaeya" wrote: > > > > > > > (I suspect that Messrs. Early and Harris are trying to broaden the > > > > definition of what is African American--a stance which I agree with. > > > > > > I also agree. I just wouldn't have the heart to exclude Black people > > > from the islands simply because the U.S. hasn't gotten around to owning > > > them yet. I don't think it lessens the African-American experience and > > > I'm of the more the merrier frame of mind. The mutt and misfit in me > > > just can't help but bend the rules whenever I can. > > > > > > Chaeya > > > > > >
