[scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
Hi Everyone, The scikit-learn team have been expanding significantly lately: we have now 3 FTEs in NY, 1 in Berlin, and 3 (soon 4) in Paris. To scale efficiently, I think we should try to communicate more. *I'd like to propose monthly meetings* *between the core-developers*. This would be the occasion to: - communicate what everyone is currently working on - ask for feedback/reviews on some specific PRs - keep everybody apprised of the latest news/decisions regarding the project. Some discussions often take place in channels that some of us may miss. To keep it efficient, maybe we could have a hard time limit, e.g. 30 mins. One person would be in charge of conducting the meeting, and another one would take notes. We would take rounds every month. While meetings and notes would be public, only core-developers or strongly-involved members would be invited to join the discussion. I understand the time-zone differences and personal schedules will make it hard to arrange for all of us to be present. I'm not sure how to handle this equitably. We could have a document that sets the agenda and a place to take notes. For members that are not able to join, they can add items onto the agenda with their thoughts before and after the meeting. Core-devs, WDYT? Thanks! Nicolas ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
Re: [scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 02:49:00PM -0400, Nicolas Hug wrote: > Core-devs, WDYT? +1. The real challenge will be to find a time slot! :) G ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
Re: [scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
I'm very strongly all in favor, thanks for bringing it up. About the time-zone issue, I know some other teams with the same situation, conduct their meetings at different times, so that each time it's inconvenient for different people. Also, I know some of us are full-time on the project, but having regular meetings to me is independent of that, and I'd really like to hear in these meetings from people like Joel and Hanmin too. Cheers, Adrin. On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:52 PM Nicolas Hug wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > The scikit-learn team have been expanding significantly lately: we have > now 3 FTEs in NY, 1 in Berlin, and 3 (soon 4) in Paris. > > To scale efficiently, I think we should try to communicate more. > > *I'd like to propose monthly meetings* *between the core-developers*. > This would be the occasion to: > > - communicate what everyone is currently working on > > - ask for feedback/reviews on some specific PRs > > - keep everybody apprised of the latest news/decisions regarding the > project. Some discussions often take place in channels that some of us may > miss. > > To keep it efficient, maybe we could have a hard time limit, e.g. 30 mins. > One person would be in charge of conducting the meeting, and another one > would take notes. We would take rounds every month. While meetings and > notes would be public, only core-developers or strongly-involved members > would be invited to join the discussion. > > I understand the time-zone differences and personal schedules will make it > hard to arrange for all of us to be present. I'm not sure how to handle > this equitably. We could have a document that sets the agenda and a place > to take notes. For members that are not able to join, they can add items > onto the agenda with their thoughts before and after the meeting. > > Core-devs, WDYT? > > Thanks! > Nicolas > ___ > scikit-learn mailing list > scikit-learn@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn > ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
Re: [scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
I am +1. This is a great initiative. IMO, we could make it really regular (i.e., a specific week-day of a specific week in a month), with a rolling time (for the time-zone issue). In this matter, we could maybe clear more in advance our agenda instead of trying to find a date which accommodates everyone. Just a thought. Cheers, On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 21:07, Adrin wrote: > I'm very strongly all in favor, thanks for bringing it up. > > About the time-zone issue, I know some other teams with the same > situation, conduct their meetings > at different times, so that each time it's inconvenient for different > people. > > Also, I know some of us are full-time on the project, but having regular > meetings to me is independent > of that, and I'd really like to hear in these meetings from people like > Joel and Hanmin too. > > Cheers, > Adrin. > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 8:52 PM Nicolas Hug wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> The scikit-learn team have been expanding significantly lately: we have >> now 3 FTEs in NY, 1 in Berlin, and 3 (soon 4) in Paris. >> >> To scale efficiently, I think we should try to communicate more. >> >> *I'd like to propose monthly meetings* *between the core-developers*. >> This would be the occasion to: >> >> - communicate what everyone is currently working on >> >> - ask for feedback/reviews on some specific PRs >> >> - keep everybody apprised of the latest news/decisions regarding the >> project. Some discussions often take place in channels that some of us may >> miss. >> >> To keep it efficient, maybe we could have a hard time limit, e.g. 30 >> mins. One person would be in charge of conducting the meeting, and another >> one would take notes. We would take rounds every month. While meetings and >> notes would be public, only core-developers or strongly-involved members >> would be invited to join the discussion. >> >> I understand the time-zone differences and personal schedules will make >> it hard to arrange for all of us to be present. I'm not sure how to handle >> this equitably. We could have a document that sets the agenda and a place >> to take notes. For members that are not able to join, they can add items >> onto the agenda with their thoughts before and after the meeting. >> >> Core-devs, WDYT? >> >> Thanks! >> Nicolas >> ___ >> scikit-learn mailing list >> scikit-learn@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn >> > ___ > scikit-learn mailing list > scikit-learn@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn > -- Guillaume Lemaitre INRIA Saclay - Parietal team Center for Data Science Paris-Saclay https://glemaitre.github.io/ ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
Re: [scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
On 7/17/19 2:17 PM, Guillaume Lemaître wrote: I am +1. This is a great initiative. IMO, we could make it really regular (i.e., a specific week-day of a specific week in a month), with a rolling time (for the time-zone issue). In this matter, we could maybe clear more in advance our agenda instead of trying to find a date which accommodates everyone. I agree, we could do something like the last Monday every month and alternate between two (or three) different time zones. We have CET (UTC+1), EST (UTC-5), CT (UTC+08), AEDT (USC+11) so that seems super easy, right? (TIL CST can stand for "Central"/US, China, and Cuba! not confusing at all) I agree that we should be as inclusive as possible, but I also don't want to create the expectation that some people (not thinking of any Australian in particular) who already sacrifice a lot of their free time have to invest even more time to keep up with the rest. I think the idea of posting write-ups will help being more inclusive in that regard. ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
Re: [scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
+1 for last Monday of each month. How about the duration? 1h max + breakout in smaller groups on more specific topics if needed? ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
Re: [scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
BTW, where was the meeting for last Monday organized? I don't think I knew it was happening. On Thu., Jul. 18, 2019, 08:02 Olivier Grisel, wrote: > +1 for last Monday of each month. How about the duration? 1h max + > breakout in smaller groups on more specific topics if needed? > > > ___ > scikit-learn mailing list > scikit-learn@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn > ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
Re: [scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
Le jeu. 18 juil. 2019 à 08:29, Adrin a écrit : > > BTW, where was the meeting for last Monday organized? I don't think I knew it > was happening. I do not understand what you are referring to. My email was about the organization of future meetings as suggested by Andreas. ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
Re: [scikit-learn] Monthly meetings between core developers
Ah sorry, my eyes skipped the "of the month" part of "last Monday of the month". My bad! On Thu., Jul. 18, 2019, 08:39 Olivier Grisel, wrote: > Le jeu. 18 juil. 2019 à 08:29, Adrin a écrit : > > > > BTW, where was the meeting for last Monday organized? I don't think I > knew it was happening. > > I do not understand what you are referring to. My email was about the > organization of future meetings as suggested by Andreas. > ___ > scikit-learn mailing list > scikit-learn@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn > ___ scikit-learn mailing list scikit-learn@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/scikit-learn
