Re: [Scons-dev] Mini announcement: v2.4 is near...

[Dirk Bächle]

William,

On 07.08.2015 03:39, William Blevins wrote:



On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:23 PM, William Blevins mailto:wblevins...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I ran that test in a loop for 10m or so and never got a failure though it 
might only happen when you thread it with other tests?

I see two potential issues:
1.  WhereIs('rpm') vs WhereIs('rpmbuild'); those two processes have been 
split out for a very long time.
2. If rpm_build_root is not unique then it could conflict with the other 
rpmbuild tests.


I tried running all the rpm tests with -j6 in a loop; again there were no 
errors, so I don't know for sure.  Do you get a stack
trace or something?



there is no stacktrace, the test fails because within the build an update is 
triggered, when there should be none. (see below)
But this happens only spuriously...calling the single test seems to make the frequency of failure lower, while running all "rpm" 
tests makes it occur more often (can't back this up with data right now, just a first impression).


Dirk


==


dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$ python runtest.py test/packaging/rpm
1/6 (16.67%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
STDOUT =
1,6c1,6
< scons\:\ Reading\ SConscript\ files\ \.\.\.\
< scons\:\ done\ reading\ SConscript\ files\.\
< scons\:\ Building\ targets\ \.\.\.\
< scons\:\ \`\.\'\ is\ up\ to\ date\.\
< scons\:\ done\ building\ targets\.\
< .*
---
> scons: Reading SConscript files ...
> scons: done reading SConscript files.
> scons: Building targets ...
> tar -zc -f foo-1.2.3.tar.gz foo-1.2.3/SConstruct foo-1.2.3/src/main.c 
foo-1.2.3/foo-1.2.3.spec
> TAR_OPTIONS=--wildcards LC_ALL=C rpmbuild -ta --buildroot /tmp/testcmd.3749._NfA8E/rpm_build_root 
/tmp/testcmd.3749._NfA8E/foo-1.2.3.tar.gz

> scons: done building targets.
FAILED test of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/src/script/scons.py
at line 605 of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py 
(_complete)
from line 701 of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py 
(run)
from line 390 of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py 
(run)
from line 427 of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py 
(up_to_date)
from line 88 of test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
2/6 (33.33%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/explicit-target.py
PASSED
3/6 (50.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/internationalization.py
PASSED
4/6 (66.67%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/multipackage.py
PASSED
5/6 (83.33%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/package.py
PASSED
6/6 (100.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/tagging.py
PASSED

Failed the following test:
test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$

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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Gary Oberbrunner]

Are you just talking about the fact that there are too many releases listed
under "Latest News" before you get to "What is SCons" and the quotes etc.?
I can fix that.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dirk Bächle  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I just noticed, that when I open the scons.org webpage in my browser it
> looks like the attached screenshot.
> Now imagine that you're someone who's interested in the project and opens
> the page the first time...it's bad UX because you don't see the vital info
> about the project itself.
>
> Can we do something about this? Now? ;)
>
> Second topic for today is, that I received a notification from
> printfection.com (where we have our SCons goodies store). They're going
> out of business, so the question from me to you is "Should I bother to look
> for a replacement, or do we simply take the Shop out?". Additional info:
> two hands are enough to show the amount of "sold items so far". ;)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dirk
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Dirk Baechle]

Hi Gary,

I think we should try to get rid of the News section at the top of the main 
page in general. There will always be the danger of the news items pushing down 
the rest...if we leave it at its current place.

Maybe we can use the left margin (similar to the right menu) to display the 
latest three News items in a somewhat smaller font? Just as an idea...

Dirk

Am 7. August 2015 11:42:07 MESZ, schrieb Gary Oberbrunner 
:
>Are you just talking about the fact that there are too many releases
>listed
>under "Latest News" before you get to "What is SCons" and the quotes
>etc.?
>I can fix that.
>
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Gary Oberbrunner]

I removed some of the old ones for now. Restyling is a bit more than I have
the chops for right now, but I'm open to ideas like your suggestion.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:

> Hi Gary,
>
> I think we should try to get rid of the News section at the top of the
> main page in general. There will always be the danger of the news items
> pushing down the rest...if we leave it at its current place.
>
> Maybe we can use the left margin (similar to the right menu) to display
> the latest three News items in a somewhat smaller font? Just as an idea...
>
> Dirk
>
> Am 7. August 2015 11:42:07 MESZ, schrieb Gary Oberbrunner <
> ga...@oberbrunner.com>:
> >Are you just talking about the fact that there are too many releases
> >listed
> >under "Latest News" before you get to "What is SCons" and the quotes
> >etc.?
> >I can fix that.
> >
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Bill Deegan]

Doh..

Forgot the URL
http://scons.org/new/

-Bill

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:36 AM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> All,
>
> I have a partly done compete redesign.
> Sounds like the about page should be the landing page and the front page
> should be a news page.
>
> -Bill
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Gary Oberbrunner 
> wrote:
>
>> I removed some of the old ones for now. Restyling is a bit more than I
>> have the chops for right now, but I'm open to ideas like your suggestion.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>>
>>> I think we should try to get rid of the News section at the top of the
>>> main page in general. There will always be the danger of the news items
>>> pushing down the rest...if we leave it at its current place.
>>>
>>> Maybe we can use the left margin (similar to the right menu) to display
>>> the latest three News items in a somewhat smaller font? Just as an idea...
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>> Am 7. August 2015 11:42:07 MESZ, schrieb Gary Oberbrunner <
>>> ga...@oberbrunner.com>:
>>> >Are you just talking about the fact that there are too many releases
>>> >listed
>>> >under "Latest News" before you get to "What is SCons" and the quotes
>>> >etc.?
>>> >I can fix that.
>>> >
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Bill Deegan]

All,

I have a partly done compete redesign.
Sounds like the about page should be the landing page and the front page
should be a news page.

-Bill

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Gary Oberbrunner 
wrote:

> I removed some of the old ones for now. Restyling is a bit more than I
> have the chops for right now, but I'm open to ideas like your suggestion.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> I think we should try to get rid of the News section at the top of the
>> main page in general. There will always be the danger of the news items
>> pushing down the rest...if we leave it at its current place.
>>
>> Maybe we can use the left margin (similar to the right menu) to display
>> the latest three News items in a somewhat smaller font? Just as an idea...
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>> Am 7. August 2015 11:42:07 MESZ, schrieb Gary Oberbrunner <
>> ga...@oberbrunner.com>:
>> >Are you just talking about the fact that there are too many releases
>> >listed
>> >under "Latest News" before you get to "What is SCons" and the quotes
>> >etc.?
>> >I can fix that.
>> >
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Dirk Baechle]

Bill,

Yes, the ¨Pelican¨ project. ;) Sorry, but I completely forgot about that.
Can you give a short status? What would be needed to get this live as our new 
webpage?

Regards,

Dirk

Am 7. August 2015 15:36:34 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan 
:
>Doh..
>
>Forgot the URL
>http://scons.org/new/
>
>-Bill
>

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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Bill Deegan]

Dirk,

Not a whole lot.
I need to figure out how to better handle the over-wide top menu.
And sounds like shufffle the home page and news page.
Update for the latest couple releases.

I might be able to knock that out today.

-Bill

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Yes, the ¨Pelican¨ project. ;) Sorry, but I completely forgot about that.
> Can you give a short status? What would be needed to get this live as our
> new webpage?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dirk
>
> Am 7. August 2015 15:36:34 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan <
> b...@baddogconsulting.com>:
> >Doh..
> >
> >Forgot the URL
> >http://scons.org/new/
> >
> >-Bill
> >
>
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Dirk Baechle]

I guess we should collect some feedback first: What do other people/devs say 
about the ¨new¨ SCons webpage? Is this a good direction to go, assuming that we 
adapt some basic style things like the colours of headings, for example?

Remember, background of the whole ¨Pelican¨ endeavour was to be able to offer 
Atom/RSS feeds to users.

We should also test how the HTML docs display under the Pelican stylesheets, or 
would these stay separate?

Dirk

Am 7. August 2015 16:01:31 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan 
:
>Dirk,
>
>Not a whole lot.
>I need to figure out how to better handle the over-wide top menu.
>And sounds like shufffle the home page and news page.
>Update for the latest couple releases.
>
>I might be able to knock that out today.
>
>-Bill
>
>On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Yes, the ¨Pelican¨ project. ;) Sorry, but I completely forgot about
>that.
>> Can you give a short status? What would be needed to get this live as
>our
>> new webpage?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>> Am 7. August 2015 15:36:34 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan <
>> b...@baddogconsulting.com>:
>> >Doh..
>> >
>> >Forgot the URL
>> >http://scons.org/new/
>> >
>> >-Bill
>> >
>>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Mini announcement: v2.4 is near...

[William Blevins]

I almost wonder whether its related to the Ubuntu rpmbuild setup, since
rpmbuild is native to the RHEL (fedora, CentOS) systems, but Ubunut
(Debian, etc) use apt and dpkg.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:20 AM, Dirk Bächle  wrote:

> William,
>
> On 07.08.2015 03:39, William Blevins wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:23 PM, William Blevins > > wrote:
>>
>> I ran that test in a loop for 10m or so and never got a failure
>> though it might only happen when you thread it with other tests?
>>
>> I see two potential issues:
>> 1.  WhereIs('rpm') vs WhereIs('rpmbuild'); those two processes have
>> been split out for a very long time.
>> 2. If rpm_build_root is not unique then it could conflict with the
>> other rpmbuild tests.
>>
>>
>> I tried running all the rpm tests with -j6 in a loop; again there were no
>> errors, so I don't know for sure.  Do you get a stack
>> trace or something?
>>
>>
> there is no stacktrace, the test fails because within the build an update
> is triggered, when there should be none. (see below)
> But this happens only spuriously...calling the single test seems to make
> the frequency of failure lower, while running all "rpm" tests makes it
> occur more often (can't back this up with data right now, just a first
> impression).
>
> Dirk
>
>
> ==
>
>
> dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$ python runtest.py test/packaging/rpm
> 1/6 (16.67%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
> STDOUT
> =
> 1,6c1,6
> < scons\:\ Reading\ SConscript\ files\ \.\.\.\
> < scons\:\ done\ reading\ SConscript\ files\.\
> < scons\:\ Building\ targets\ \.\.\.\
> < scons\:\ \`\.\'\ is\ up\ to\ date\.\
> < scons\:\ done\ building\ targets\.\
> < .*
> ---
> > scons: Reading SConscript files ...
> > scons: done reading SConscript files.
> > scons: Building targets ...
> > tar -zc -f foo-1.2.3.tar.gz foo-1.2.3/SConstruct foo-1.2.3/src/main.c
> foo-1.2.3/foo-1.2.3.spec
> > TAR_OPTIONS=--wildcards LC_ALL=C rpmbuild -ta --buildroot
> /tmp/testcmd.3749._NfA8E/rpm_build_root
> /tmp/testcmd.3749._NfA8E/foo-1.2.3.tar.gz
> > scons: done building targets.
> FAILED test of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/src/script/scons.py
> at line 605 of
> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py (_complete)
> from line 701 of
> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py (run)
> from line 390 of
> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py (run)
> from line 427 of
> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py (up_to_date)
> from line 88 of test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
> 2/6 (33.33%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/explicit-target.py
> PASSED
> 3/6 (50.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/internationalization.py
> PASSED
> 4/6 (66.67%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/multipackage.py
> PASSED
> 5/6 (83.33%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/package.py
> PASSED
> 6/6 (100.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/tagging.py
> PASSED
>
> Failed the following test:
> test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
> dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$
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Re: [Scons-dev] Mini announcement: v2.4 is near...

[William Blevins]

Would it be wise to try something like changing that line to a build with
"--explain", so we might be able to figure out why SCons thinks its out of
date?

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:18 AM, William Blevins 
wrote:

> I almost wonder whether its related to the Ubuntu rpmbuild setup, since
> rpmbuild is native to the RHEL (fedora, CentOS) systems, but Ubunut
> (Debian, etc) use apt and dpkg.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:20 AM, Dirk Bächle  wrote:
>
>> William,
>>
>> On 07.08.2015 03:39, William Blevins wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:23 PM, William Blevins >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I ran that test in a loop for 10m or so and never got a failure
>>> though it might only happen when you thread it with other tests?
>>>
>>> I see two potential issues:
>>> 1.  WhereIs('rpm') vs WhereIs('rpmbuild'); those two processes have
>>> been split out for a very long time.
>>> 2. If rpm_build_root is not unique then it could conflict with the
>>> other rpmbuild tests.
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried running all the rpm tests with -j6 in a loop; again there were
>>> no errors, so I don't know for sure.  Do you get a stack
>>> trace or something?
>>>
>>>
>> there is no stacktrace, the test fails because within the build an update
>> is triggered, when there should be none. (see below)
>> But this happens only spuriously...calling the single test seems to make
>> the frequency of failure lower, while running all "rpm" tests makes it
>> occur more often (can't back this up with data right now, just a first
>> impression).
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>>
>> ==
>>
>>
>> dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$ python runtest.py
>> test/packaging/rpm
>> 1/6 (16.67%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
>> STDOUT
>> =
>> 1,6c1,6
>> < scons\:\ Reading\ SConscript\ files\ \.\.\.\
>> < scons\:\ done\ reading\ SConscript\ files\.\
>> < scons\:\ Building\ targets\ \.\.\.\
>> < scons\:\ \`\.\'\ is\ up\ to\ date\.\
>> < scons\:\ done\ building\ targets\.\
>> < .*
>> ---
>> > scons: Reading SConscript files ...
>> > scons: done reading SConscript files.
>> > scons: Building targets ...
>> > tar -zc -f foo-1.2.3.tar.gz foo-1.2.3/SConstruct foo-1.2.3/src/main.c
>> foo-1.2.3/foo-1.2.3.spec
>> > TAR_OPTIONS=--wildcards LC_ALL=C rpmbuild -ta --buildroot
>> /tmp/testcmd.3749._NfA8E/rpm_build_root
>> /tmp/testcmd.3749._NfA8E/foo-1.2.3.tar.gz
>> > scons: done building targets.
>> FAILED test of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/src/script/scons.py
>> at line 605 of
>> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py (_complete)
>> from line 701 of
>> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py (run)
>> from line 390 of
>> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py (run)
>> from line 427 of
>> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py (up_to_date)
>> from line 88 of test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
>> 2/6 (33.33%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/explicit-target.py
>> PASSED
>> 3/6 (50.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt
>> test/packaging/rpm/internationalization.py
>> PASSED
>> 4/6 (66.67%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/multipackage.py
>> PASSED
>> 5/6 (83.33%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/package.py
>> PASSED
>> 6/6 (100.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/tagging.py
>> PASSED
>>
>> Failed the following test:
>> test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
>> dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$
>>
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[William Blevins]

I wasn't even aware of the store ;(

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dirk Bächle  wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I just noticed, that when I open the scons.org webpage in my browser it
> looks like the attached screenshot.
> Now imagine that you're someone who's interested in the project and opens
> the page the first time...it's bad UX because you don't see the vital info
> about the project itself.
>
> Can we do something about this? Now? ;)
>
> Second topic for today is, that I received a notification from
> printfection.com (where we have our SCons goodies store). They're going
> out of business, so the question from me to you is "Should I bother to look
> for a replacement, or do we simply take the Shop out?". Additional info:
> two hands are enough to show the amount of "sold items so far". ;)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dirk
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Bill Deegan]

Dirk,

I'd say keep the docs separate.
The pelican stylesheets are actually bootstrap stylesheets.

Where/how should we solicit feedback?

-Bill

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:

> I guess we should collect some feedback first: What do other people/devs
> say about the ¨new¨ SCons webpage? Is this a good direction to go, assuming
> that we adapt some basic style things like the colours of headings, for
> example?
>
> Remember, background of the whole ¨Pelican¨ endeavour was to be able to
> offer Atom/RSS feeds to users.
>
> We should also test how the HTML docs display under the Pelican
> stylesheets, or would these stay separate?
>
> Dirk
>
>
> Am 7. August 2015 16:01:31 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan <
> b...@baddogconsulting.com>:
>>
>> Dirk,
>>
>> Not a whole lot.
>> I need to figure out how to better handle the over-wide top menu.
>> And sounds like shufffle the home page and news page.
>> Update for the latest couple releases.
>>
>> I might be able to knock that out today.
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> Yes, the ¨Pelican¨ project. ;) Sorry, but I completely forgot about that.
>>> Can you give a short status? What would be needed to get this live as
>>> our new webpage?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>>
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>>> >Doh..
>>> >
>>> >Forgot the URL
>>> >http://scons.org/new/
>>> >
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Re: [Scons-dev] Mini announcement: v2.4 is near...

[Bill Deegan]

Run the test with PRESERVE=1 then goto the created dir and run scons
--debug=explain ?

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:20 AM, William Blevins 
wrote:

> Would it be wise to try something like changing that line to a build with
> "--explain", so we might be able to figure out why SCons thinks its out of
> date?
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:18 AM, William Blevins 
> wrote:
>
>> I almost wonder whether its related to the Ubuntu rpmbuild setup, since
>> rpmbuild is native to the RHEL (fedora, CentOS) systems, but Ubunut
>> (Debian, etc) use apt and dpkg.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:20 AM, Dirk Bächle  wrote:
>>
>>> William,
>>>
>>> On 07.08.2015 03:39, William Blevins wrote:
>>>


 On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:23 PM, William Blevins >>> > wrote:

 I ran that test in a loop for 10m or so and never got a failure
 though it might only happen when you thread it with other tests?

 I see two potential issues:
 1.  WhereIs('rpm') vs WhereIs('rpmbuild'); those two processes have
 been split out for a very long time.
 2. If rpm_build_root is not unique then it could conflict with the
 other rpmbuild tests.


 I tried running all the rpm tests with -j6 in a loop; again there were
 no errors, so I don't know for sure.  Do you get a stack
 trace or something?


>>> there is no stacktrace, the test fails because within the build an
>>> update is triggered, when there should be none. (see below)
>>> But this happens only spuriously...calling the single test seems to make
>>> the frequency of failure lower, while running all "rpm" tests makes it
>>> occur more often (can't back this up with data right now, just a first
>>> impression).
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>>
>>> dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$ python runtest.py
>>> test/packaging/rpm
>>> 1/6 (16.67%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
>>> STDOUT
>>> =
>>> 1,6c1,6
>>> < scons\:\ Reading\ SConscript\ files\ \.\.\.\
>>> < scons\:\ done\ reading\ SConscript\ files\.\
>>> < scons\:\ Building\ targets\ \.\.\.\
>>> < scons\:\ \`\.\'\ is\ up\ to\ date\.\
>>> < scons\:\ done\ building\ targets\.\
>>> < .*
>>> ---
>>> > scons: Reading SConscript files ...
>>> > scons: done reading SConscript files.
>>> > scons: Building targets ...
>>> > tar -zc -f foo-1.2.3.tar.gz foo-1.2.3/SConstruct foo-1.2.3/src/main.c
>>> foo-1.2.3/foo-1.2.3.spec
>>> > TAR_OPTIONS=--wildcards LC_ALL=C rpmbuild -ta --buildroot
>>> /tmp/testcmd.3749._NfA8E/rpm_build_root
>>> /tmp/testcmd.3749._NfA8E/foo-1.2.3.tar.gz
>>> > scons: done building targets.
>>> FAILED test of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/src/script/scons.py
>>> at line 605 of
>>> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py (_complete)
>>> from line 701 of
>>> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py (run)
>>> from line 390 of
>>> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py (run)
>>> from line 427 of
>>> /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py (up_to_date)
>>> from line 88 of test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
>>> 2/6 (33.33%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/explicit-target.py
>>> PASSED
>>> 3/6 (50.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt
>>> test/packaging/rpm/internationalization.py
>>> PASSED
>>> 4/6 (66.67%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/multipackage.py
>>> PASSED
>>> 5/6 (83.33%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/package.py
>>> PASSED
>>> 6/6 (100.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/tagging.py
>>> PASSED
>>>
>>> Failed the following test:
>>> test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
>>> dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Gary Oberbrunner]

The top menu obscures the top of each page, I guess that's what you mean by
the over-wide top menu.  With that fixed, it looks like it would be able to
functionally replace the current version.  A bit of styling and color might
be nice, with the brick logo etc.?  But otherwise I think it's promising.
It looks good on mobile too (other than again the top menu obscuring the
text), with a hamburger menu to select the different pages.  Responsive
design and all that modernity.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> Dirk,
>
> I'd say keep the docs separate.
> The pelican stylesheets are actually bootstrap stylesheets.
>
> Where/how should we solicit feedback?
>
> -Bill
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:
>
>> I guess we should collect some feedback first: What do other people/devs
>> say about the ¨new¨ SCons webpage? Is this a good direction to go, assuming
>> that we adapt some basic style things like the colours of headings, for
>> example?
>>
>> Remember, background of the whole ¨Pelican¨ endeavour was to be able to
>> offer Atom/RSS feeds to users.
>>
>> We should also test how the HTML docs display under the Pelican
>> stylesheets, or would these stay separate?
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>>
>> Am 7. August 2015 16:01:31 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan <
>> b...@baddogconsulting.com>:
>>>
>>> Dirk,
>>>
>>> Not a whole lot.
>>> I need to figure out how to better handle the over-wide top menu.
>>> And sounds like shufffle the home page and news page.
>>> Update for the latest couple releases.
>>>
>>> I might be able to knock that out today.
>>>
>>> -Bill
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:
>>>
 Bill,

 Yes, the ¨Pelican¨ project. ;) Sorry, but I completely forgot about
 that.
 Can you give a short status? What would be needed to get this live as
 our new webpage?

 Regards,

 Dirk

 Am 7. August 2015 15:36:34 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan <
 b...@baddogconsulting.com>:
 >Doh..
 >
 >Forgot the URL
 >http://scons.org/new/
 >
 >-Bill
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Bill Deegan]

Gary,

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Gary Oberbrunner 
wrote:

> The top menu obscures the top of each page, I guess that's what you mean
> by the over-wide top menu.  With that fixed, it looks like it would be able
> to functionally replace the current version.
>

Yes. That's what I'm talking about. I may need to group the menu items.


> A bit of styling and color might be nice, with the brick logo etc.?  But
> otherwise I think it's promising.  It looks good on mobile too (other than
> again the top menu obscuring the text), with a hamburger menu to select the
> different pages.  Responsive design and all that modernity.
>

Yup. Bootstrap gives you responsive design for 'free'.
I'm just waiting for emails and phone calls on my dad's estate today so
should have some bandwidth to work on this stuff.
(It's relaxing by comparison..) (Know anyone who wants to buy a 1953 MG
TD.. I've got one left.. :)

-Bill


>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Bill Deegan 
> wrote:
>
>> Dirk,
>>
>> I'd say keep the docs separate.
>> The pelican stylesheets are actually bootstrap stylesheets.
>>
>> Where/how should we solicit feedback?
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:
>>
>>> I guess we should collect some feedback first: What do other people/devs
>>> say about the ¨new¨ SCons webpage? Is this a good direction to go, assuming
>>> that we adapt some basic style things like the colours of headings, for
>>> example?
>>>
>>> Remember, background of the whole ¨Pelican¨ endeavour was to be able to
>>> offer Atom/RSS feeds to users.
>>>
>>> We should also test how the HTML docs display under the Pelican
>>> stylesheets, or would these stay separate?
>>>
>>> Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 7. August 2015 16:01:31 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan <
>>> b...@baddogconsulting.com>:

 Dirk,

 Not a whole lot.
 I need to figure out how to better handle the over-wide top menu.
 And sounds like shufffle the home page and news page.
 Update for the latest couple releases.

 I might be able to knock that out today.

 -Bill

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Dirk Baechle  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Yes, the ¨Pelican¨ project. ;) Sorry, but I completely forgot about
> that.
> Can you give a short status? What would be needed to get this live as
> our new webpage?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dirk
>
> Am 7. August 2015 15:36:34 MESZ, schrieb Bill Deegan <
> b...@baddogconsulting.com>:
> >Doh..
> >
> >Forgot the URL
> >http://scons.org/new/
> >
> >-Bill
> >
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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Dirk Bächle]

Bill,

On 07.08.2015 16:50, Bill Deegan wrote:

Dirk,

I'd say keep the docs separate.
The pelican stylesheets are actually bootstrap stylesheets.

Where/how should we solicit feedback?



I didn't think about anything fancy. Just waiting a few hours to see if someone 
on this dev ML yells bloody murder should be enough. ;)

Dirk

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Re: [Scons-dev] Mini announcement: v2.4 is near...

[Dirk Bächle]

On 07.08.2015 16:20, William Blevins wrote:

Would it be wise to try something like changing that line to a build with 
"--explain", so we might be able to figure out why SCons
thinks its out of date?



Here's a failing output, with the "--debug=explain" option given as additional 
argument:

dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$ python runtest.py 
test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
1/1 (100.00%) /usr/bin/python -tt test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
STDOUT =
1,7c1,10
< scons\:\ Reading\ SConscript\ files\ \.\.\.\
< scons\:\ done\ reading\ SConscript\ files\.\
< scons\:\ Building\ targets\ \.\.\.\
< scons\:\ \`\-\-debug\=explain\'\ is\ up\ to\ date\.\
< scons\:\ \`\.\'\ is\ up\ to\ date\.\
< scons\:\ done\ building\ targets\.\
< .*
---
> scons: Reading SConscript files ...
> scons: done reading SConscript files.
> scons: Building targets ...
> scons: rebuilding `foo-1.2.3.tar.gz' because the dependency order changed:
>old: ['foo-1.2.3/src/main.c', 'foo-1.2.3/SConstruct', 
'foo-1.2.3/foo-1.2.3.spec', '/bin/tar']
>new: ['foo-1.2.3/SConstruct', 'foo-1.2.3/src/main.c', 
'foo-1.2.3/foo-1.2.3.spec', '/bin/tar']
> tar -zc -f foo-1.2.3.tar.gz foo-1.2.3/SConstruct foo-1.2.3/src/main.c 
foo-1.2.3/foo-1.2.3.spec
> scons: rebuilding `foo-1.2.3-0.src.rpm' because `foo-1.2.3.tar.gz' changed
> TAR_OPTIONS=--wildcards LC_ALL=C rpmbuild -ta --buildroot /tmp/testcmd.4395.9as0US/rpm_build_root 
/tmp/testcmd.4395.9as0US/foo-1.2.3.tar.gz

> scons: done building targets.
FAILED test of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/src/script/scons.py
at line 605 of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py 
(_complete)
from line 701 of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestCommon.py 
(run)
from line 390 of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py 
(run)
from line 427 of /home/dirk/workspace/scons_commit/QMTest/TestSCons.py 
(up_to_date)
from line 88 of test/packaging/rpm/cleanup.py
dirk@ubuntu:~/workspace/scons_commit$


Looks like the order changed in which the children are detected. This usually happens with files that get generated by Builders, but 
here the SConstruct and main.c are written by the test harness...so they exist right from the start.
Could it be that the created *.tar.gz and *.rpm files play a role here? If one of them isn't completely written to disk when the 
"update" run is started, this could make a difference perhaps (I'm grasping at straws here).


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Re: [Scons-dev] SCons webpage...

[Gary Oberbrunner]

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> (Know anyone who wants to buy a 1953 MG TD.. I've got one left..


I don't, but the pic on FB looks gorgeous!  Who wouldn't want that?


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Re: [Scons-dev] Mini announcement: v2.4 is near...

[Gary Oberbrunner]

My guess is this has something to do with the rpm packaging builder
(Tool/packaging/rpm.py).  It's probably getting a list of files or nodes,
and not sorting them.  os.listdir(), for instance, "returns path elements
in an arbitrary order".  Maybe something in that builder just needs to sort
them before use.

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[Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[Bill Deegan]

I made a bunch more changes.

http://scons.org/new/

The download page isn't quite right yet, but the navigation is pretty much
done.

feedback?

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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[William Blevins]

It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I like it.

Thoughts and/or formatting issues:

   1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't have a
   menu item with only 1 entry.
   2. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it already
   and we didn't even have it yet ;(
   3. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
   correctly.
   4. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide screen?
   5. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right? (nitpicking)

V/R,

William

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>
> http://scons.org/new/
>
> The download page isn't quite right yet, but the navigation is pretty much
> done.
>
> feedback?
>
> -Bill
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[Bill Deegan]

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins 
wrote:

> It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I like it.
>
> Thoughts and/or formatting issues:
>
>1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't have a
>menu item with only 1 entry.
>
> Moved under community.


>
>1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
>already and we didn't even have it yet ;(
>
>
It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.

>
>1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
>correctly.
>
> Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.

>
>1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide
>screen?
>
> It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much) any
size screen.

>
>1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right? (nitpicking)
>
>
> Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?

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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[William Blevins]

Please see attached image.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins 
> wrote:
>
>> It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I like
>> it.
>>
>> Thoughts and/or formatting issues:
>>
>>1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't have a
>>menu item with only 1 entry.
>>
>> Moved under community.
>
>
>>
>>1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
>>already and we didn't even have it yet ;(
>>
>>
> It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.
>

I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...


>
>>1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
>>correctly.
>>
>> Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.
>
>>
>>1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide
>>screen?
>>
>> It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much) any
> size screen.
>

I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are
completely empty.


>
>>1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
>>(nitpicking)
>>
>>
>> Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?
>
> -Bill
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[William Blevins]

Also this information may be usefule: Firefox/IceWeasel 31.8.0

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:34 PM, William Blevins 
wrote:

> Please see attached image.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I like
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Thoughts and/or formatting issues:
>>>
>>>1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't have
>>>a menu item with only 1 entry.
>>>
>>> Moved under community.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
>>>already and we didn't even have it yet ;(
>>>
>>>
>> It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.
>>
>
> I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...
>
>
>>
>>>1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
>>>correctly.
>>>
>>> Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.
>>
>>>
>>>1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide
>>>screen?
>>>
>>> It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much) any
>> size screen.
>>
>
> I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are
> completely empty.
>
>
>>
>>>1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
>>>(nitpicking)
>>>
>>>
>>> Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?
>>
>> -Bill
>>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[Bill Deegan]

William,

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:34 PM, William Blevins 
wrote:

> Please see attached image.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I like
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Thoughts and/or formatting issues:
>>>
>>>1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't have
>>>a menu item with only 1 entry.
>>>
>>> Moved under community.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
>>>already and we didn't even have it yet ;(
>>>
>>>
>> It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.
>>
>
> I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...
>

It wasn't mercurial, it was SCons's twitter feed.

>
>
>>
>>>1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
>>>correctly.
>>>
>>> Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.
>>
>>>
>>>1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide
>>>screen?
>>>
>>> It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much) any
>> size screen.
>>
>
> I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are
> completely empty.
>

Do you have javascript turned off?

-Bill

>
>
>>
>>>1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
>>>(nitpicking)
>>>
>>>
>>> Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?
>>
>> -Bill
>>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[William Blevins]

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> William,
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:34 PM, William Blevins 
> wrote:
>
>> Please see attached image.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I like
 it.

 Thoughts and/or formatting issues:

1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't have
a menu item with only 1 entry.

 Moved under community.
>>>
>>>

1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
already and we didn't even have it yet ;(


>>> It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.
>>>
>>
>> I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...
>>
>
> It wasn't mercurial, it was SCons's twitter feed.
>


It was previously showing SCons bitbucket activity.  If that was a twitter
feed, then kool :)


>
>>
>>>
1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
correctly.

 Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.
>>>

1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide
screen?

 It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much)
>>> any size screen.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are
>> completely empty.
>>
>
> Do you have javascript turned off?
>
>
negative


> -Bill
>
>>
>>
>>>
1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
(nitpicking)


 Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?
>>>
>>> -Bill
>>>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[Bill Deegan]

Can you try another browser on your system?
Or do a full reload of the page? (Often shift - reload)

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:11 PM, William Blevins 
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Bill Deegan 
> wrote:
>
>> William,
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:34 PM, William Blevins 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please see attached image.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins 
 wrote:

> It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I
> like it.
>
> Thoughts and/or formatting issues:
>
>1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't
>have a menu item with only 1 entry.
>
> Moved under community.


>
>1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
>already and we didn't even have it yet ;(
>
>
 It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.

>>>
>>> I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...
>>>
>>
>> It wasn't mercurial, it was SCons's twitter feed.
>>
>
>
> It was previously showing SCons bitbucket activity.  If that was a twitter
> feed, then kool :)
>
>
>>
>>>

>1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
>correctly.
>
> Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.

>
>1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide
>screen?
>
> It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much)
 any size screen.

>>>
>>> I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are
>>> completely empty.
>>>
>>
>> Do you have javascript turned off?
>>
>>
> negative
>
>
>> -Bill
>>
>>>
>>>

>1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
>(nitpicking)
>
>
> Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?

 -Bill


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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[Bill Deegan]

When I make my web browser most of a 1080p screen is is similar to the
image you sent, though I do see the twitter feed with the commits in it..

-Bill

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> Can you try another browser on your system?
> Or do a full reload of the page? (Often shift - reload)
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:11 PM, William Blevins 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Bill Deegan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> William,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:34 PM, William Blevins 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Please see attached image.

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan >>> > wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins  > wrote:
>
>> It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I
>> like it.
>>
>> Thoughts and/or formatting issues:
>>
>>1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't
>>have a menu item with only 1 entry.
>>
>> Moved under community.
>
>
>>
>>1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
>>already and we didn't even have it yet ;(
>>
>>
> It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.
>

 I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...

>>>
>>> It wasn't mercurial, it was SCons's twitter feed.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It was previously showing SCons bitbucket activity.  If that was a
>> twitter feed, then kool :)
>>
>>
>>>

>
>>1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
>>correctly.
>>
>> Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.
>
>>
>>1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide
>>screen?
>>
>> It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much)
> any size screen.
>

 I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are
 completely empty.

>>>
>>> Do you have javascript turned off?
>>>
>>>
>> negative
>>
>>
>>> -Bill
>>>


>
>>1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
>>(nitpicking)
>>
>>
>> Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?
>
> -Bill
>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[William Blevins]

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> Can you try another browser on your system?
> Or do a full reload of the page? (Often shift - reload)
>

Seems that the twitter feed missing was related to my add block.  The
coloring for the twitter feed is messed up though. Might be related to my
custom colors, but the feed is dark gray with black font.


>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:11 PM, William Blevins 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Bill Deegan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> William,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:34 PM, William Blevins 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Please see attached image.

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan >>> > wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins  > wrote:
>
>> It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I
>> like it.
>>
>> Thoughts and/or formatting issues:
>>
>>1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't
>>have a menu item with only 1 entry.
>>
>> Moved under community.
>
>
>>
>>1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
>>already and we didn't even have it yet ;(
>>
>>
> It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.
>

 I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...

>>>
>>> It wasn't mercurial, it was SCons's twitter feed.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It was previously showing SCons bitbucket activity.  If that was a
>> twitter feed, then kool :)
>>
>>
>>>

>
>>1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
>>correctly.
>>
>> Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.
>
>>
>>1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide
>>screen?
>>
>> It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much)
> any size screen.
>

 I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are
 completely empty.

>>>
>>> Do you have javascript turned off?
>>>
>>>
>> negative
>>
>>
>>> -Bill
>>>


>
>>1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
>>(nitpicking)
>>
>>
>> Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?
>
> -Bill
>
>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[William Blevins]

Page width is still an issue.

Attached is the page source as acquired from firefox.  Not sure if any of
it is generated, so it might be useful?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:51 AM, William Blevins 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Bill Deegan 
> wrote:
>
>> Can you try another browser on your system?
>> Or do a full reload of the page? (Often shift - reload)
>>
>
> Seems that the twitter feed missing was related to my add block.  The
> coloring for the twitter feed is messed up though. Might be related to my
> custom colors, but the feed is dark gray with black font.
>
>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:11 PM, William Blevins 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Bill Deegan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 William,

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:34 PM, William Blevins 
 wrote:

> Please see attached image.
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan <
> b...@baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins <
>> wblevins...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I
>>> like it.
>>>
>>> Thoughts and/or formatting issues:
>>>
>>>1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't
>>>have a menu item with only 1 entry.
>>>
>>> Moved under community.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it
>>>already and we didn't even have it yet ;(
>>>
>>>
>> It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.
>>
>
> I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...
>

 It wasn't mercurial, it was SCons's twitter feed.

>>>
>>>
>>> It was previously showing SCons bitbucket activity.  If that was a
>>> twitter feed, then kool :)
>>>
>>>

>
>>
>>>1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
>>>correctly.
>>>
>>> Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.
>>
>>>
>>>1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support
>>>wide screen?
>>>
>>> It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much)
>> any size screen.
>>
>
> I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are
> completely empty.
>

 Do you have javascript turned off?


>>> negative
>>>
>>>
 -Bill

>
>
>>
>>>1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
>>>(nitpicking)
>>>
>>>
>>> Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?
>>
>> -Bill
>>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[William Blevins]

I get the same page width issue with Chromium Version 44.0.2403.89 Built on
8.1, running on Debian 8.1 (64-bit)

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:57 AM, William Blevins 
wrote:

> Page width is still an issue.
>
> Attached is the page source as acquired from firefox.  Not sure if any of
> it is generated, so it might be useful?
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:51 AM, William Blevins 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Bill Deegan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you try another browser on your system?
>>> Or do a full reload of the page? (Often shift - reload)
>>>
>>
>> Seems that the twitter feed missing was related to my add block.  The
>> coloring for the twitter feed is messed up though. Might be related to my
>> custom colors, but the feed is dark gray with black font.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:11 PM, William Blevins 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Bill Deegan >>> > wrote:

> William,
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:34 PM, William Blevins  > wrote:
>
>> Please see attached image.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan <
>> b...@baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins <
>>> wblevins...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I
 like it.

 Thoughts and/or formatting issues:

1. I would put references under documentation so that we don't
have a menu item with only 1 entry.

 Moved under community.
>>>
>>>

1. What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss
it already and we didn't even have it yet ;(


>>> It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.
>>>
>>
>> I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...
>>
>
> It wasn't mercurial, it was SCons's twitter feed.
>


 It was previously showing SCons bitbucket activity.  If that was a
 twitter feed, then kool :)


>
>>
>>>
1. The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in
correctly.

 Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.
>>>

1. The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support
wide screen?

 It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty
>>> much) any size screen.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser
>> are completely empty.
>>
>
> Do you have javascript turned off?
>
>
 negative


> -Bill
>
>>
>>
>>>
1. Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right?
(nitpicking)


 Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?
>>>
>>> -Bill
>>>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

[Managan, Rob]

Jusst want to add that it looks great on my iPad air.



From: Scons-dev on behalf of William Blevins
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 10:00:03 PM
To: SCons developer list
Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] Requesting feedback on new website design

I get the same page width issue with Chromium Version 44.0.2403.89 Built on 
8.1, running on Debian 8.1 (64-bit)

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:57 AM, William Blevins 
mailto:wblevins...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Page width is still an issue.

Attached is the page source as acquired from firefox.  Not sure if any of it is 
generated, so it might be useful?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:51 AM, William Blevins 
mailto:wblevins...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Bill Deegan 
mailto:b...@baddogconsulting.com>> wrote:
Can you try another browser on your system?
Or do a full reload of the page? (Often shift - reload)

Seems that the twitter feed missing was related to my add block.  The coloring 
for the twitter feed is messed up though. Might be related to my custom colors, 
but the feed is dark gray with black font.


On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:11 PM, William Blevins 
mailto:wblevins...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Bill Deegan 
mailto:b...@baddogconsulting.com>> wrote:
William,

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:34 PM, William Blevins 
mailto:wblevins...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Please see attached image.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Bill Deegan 
mailto:b...@baddogconsulting.com>> wrote:


On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:54 PM, William Blevins 
mailto:wblevins...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It is a very big step in polishing your original design though.  I like it.

Thoughts and/or formatting issues:

  1.  I would put references under documentation so that we don't have a menu 
item with only 1 entry.

Moved under community.


  1.  What happened to the feed on the right-hand side!!  I miss it already and 
we didn't even have it yet ;(

It's there until you narrow the page beyond a certain point.

I don't see the mercurial feed that was there previously...

It wasn't mercurial, it was SCons's twitter feed.


It was previously showing SCons bitbucket activity.  If that was a twitter 
feed, then kool :)



  1.  The downloads page has lots of macros that weren't filled in correctly.

Yes.. per my original email downloads page isn't right yet.

  1.  The layout seems to be 800x600 compliant?  Can we support wide screen?

It's responsive design and will reflow the page to fit (pretty much) any size 
screen.

I'm not sure its working right;  the right/left side of my browser are 
completely empty.

Do you have javascript turned off?


negative

-Bill


  1.  Consider adding a link for SCons open hub on the right? (nitpicking)

Good idea.  Any other similar sites we should link to?

-Bill


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[Scons-dev] Patch for potential new debug option

[William Blevins]

Here is a patch for dumping build environments via the command-line.

I couldn't ever figure out a good way to get only explicitly lister targets
(non-default commandline targets).  It will essentially print the
node.get_env().Dump() for all targets with a build_env defined.

I could potentially change it from "--debug=envdump" to something like
"--envdump=" so that it could print a particular variable rather
than the whole env.

Does this interest anyone or waste of chars?

diff -r 682b8a7a51fb src/engine/SCons/Script/Main.py
> --- a/src/engine/SCons/Script/Main.pyMon Jun 29 15:37:44 2015 -0400
> +++ b/src/engine/SCons/Script/Main.pyThu Aug 06 23:44:50 2015 -0400
> @@ -391,6 +391,21 @@
>  def prepare(self):
>  pass
>
> +class EnvDumpTask(SCons.Taskmaster.AlwaysTask):
> +"""SCons task for --debug=envdump.  Prints env dump for
> BUILD_TARGETS."""
> +def prepare(self):
> +pass
> +
> +def execute(self):
> +for target in self.targets:
> +if target.get_build_env():
> +print 'Environment dump for target: ' + str(target)
> +print target.get_env().Dump()
> +
> +def executed(self):
> +pass
> +
> +
>  class QuestionTask(SCons.Taskmaster.AlwaysTask):
>  """An SCons task for the -q (question) option."""
>  def prepare(self):
> @@ -657,6 +672,7 @@
>  if "memory" in debug_values:
>  memory_stats.enable(sys.stdout)
>  print_objects = ("objects" in debug_values)
> +options.debug_envdump = ( "envdump" in debug_values )
>  if print_objects:
>  SCons.Debug.track_instances = True
>  if "presub" in debug_values:
> @@ -1210,8 +1226,13 @@
>  failure_message = "done building targets (errors occurred during
> build)."
>  else:
>  failure_message = "building terminated because of errors."
> +
> +if options.debug_envdump:
> +task_class = EnvDumpTask
> +
>  if options.question:
>  task_class = QuestionTask
> +
>  try:
>  if options.clean:
>  task_class = CleanTask
> diff -r 682b8a7a51fb src/engine/SCons/Script/SConsOptions.py
> --- a/src/engine/SCons/Script/SConsOptions.pyMon Jun 29 15:37:44 2015
> -0400
> +++ b/src/engine/SCons/Script/SConsOptions.pyThu Aug 06 23:44:50 2015
> -0400
> @@ -673,7 +673,7 @@
>  "tree"  : '; please use --tree=all instead',
>  }
>
> -debug_options = ["count", "duplicate", "explain", "findlibs",
> +debug_options = ["count", "duplicate", "explain", "envdump",
> "findlibs",
>   "includes", "memoizer", "memory", "objects",
>   "pdb", "prepare", "presub", "stacktrace",
>   "time"]
>
>

V/R,
William
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