Re: [Scons-dev] Rumour…

[Bill Deegan]

Not a rumor. ;)
http://lwn.net/Articles/669924/

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/150459/focus=150960


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:13 AM, William Blevins 
wrote:

> Don't spread rumors ;)
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Russel Winder 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I hear a rumour that Python is now switching to GitHub. Despite
>> Mercurial having many great plusses over Git, it seems no big project
>> is staying with Mercurial.
>>
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[Scons-dev] Rumour…

[Russel Winder]

I hear a rumour that Python is now switching to GitHub. Despite
Mercurial having many great plusses over Git, it seems no big project
is staying with Mercurial.
 
-- 
Russel.
=
Dr Russel Winder  t: +44 20 7585 2200   voip: sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net
41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077   xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk
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Re: [Scons-dev] Rumour…

[William Blevins]

Don't spread rumors ;)

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Russel Winder  wrote:

>
> I hear a rumour that Python is now switching to GitHub. Despite
> Mercurial having many great plusses over Git, it seems no big project
> is staying with Mercurial.
>
> --
> Russel.
>
> =
> Dr Russel Winder  t: +44 20 7585 2200   voip:
> sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net
> 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077   xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk
> London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk  skype: russel_winder
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Re: [Scons-dev] Rumour…

[Jonathon Reinhart]

Honestly, I would more more inclined to contribute to SCons if it were
developed using Git, and fully hosted on GitHub.

I think the GitHub model just works extremely well, and that's why so many
projects are moving to it. Having an integrated issue tracker, releases
tied to tags, and although I haven't used it, GitHub Pages is a perfect set
of features for most Open Source projects.  The integration with CI
services (e.g. Travis) and other services (like CodeCov) is a cherry on top.

There have been small bugs that I've gone to fix in SCons, but didn't feel
like dealing with mercurial / BitBucket; not because they're bad, but
because they're not what I'm familiar with.

I suspect there are many others like me.

Just my (unsolicited) $0.02.


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> Not a rumor. ;)
> http://lwn.net/Articles/669924/
>
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/150459/focus=150960
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:13 AM, William Blevins 
> wrote:
>
>> Don't spread rumors ;)
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Russel Winder 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I hear a rumour that Python is now switching to GitHub. Despite
>>> Mercurial having many great plusses over Git, it seems no big project
>>> is staying with Mercurial.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Russel.
>>>
>>> =
>>> Dr Russel Winder  t: +44 20 7585 2200   voip:
>>> sip:russel.win...@ekiga.net
>>> 41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077   xmpp: rus...@winder.org.uk
>>> London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk  skype: russel_winder
>>>
>>
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Re: [Scons-dev] Rumour…

[Dirk Bächle]

Hi there,

On 05.01.2016 18:25, Bill Deegan wrote:

Not a rumor. ;)
http://lwn.net/Articles/669924/

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/150459/focus=150960




when I read those two threads/articles it doesn't seem to be about "moving Python to Github"...they're considering (PEP481) to 
migrate certain supporting repositories, that don't need a bug tracker and can be used as a stand-alone repo.

Am I getting this right?

If yes, this is a different situation than we would have...we still have a bug tracker to migrate. And so far, everybody who tried 
to come up with a proposal about how to do it, while losing no significant data, seems to have given up on it. Would this change if 
we move to Github?


It may be true that a lot of people nowadays simply know how to use "git" (or maybe they only "think" that they know ;) ), but I 
can't see a big boost of new contributors growing from this fact alone. OpenHatch has moved to Github recently (including their bug 
tracker) and they're still struggling and desperately calling for help. Maybe it is the "wrong" example, but it doesn't seem to be 
*that* easy. And someone has to do the migration work...I'd like to see volunteers and their ideas for the migration first, before 
supporting this idea.


I'm not completely opposed to the idea of moving to Github ( and git, which I also know a bit, at least I "think" I do ;) ), but 
deep in my heart I still very much feel like Nick Coghlan (see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.devel/150459/focus=150960 ) 
and think about Mercurial and SCons as part of the Python family. This weighs a lot in my opinion, so you have to put much more than 
"convenience" and "I suspect"s on the other side of the scale to convince me. :)


So much for my 2c.

Best regards,

Dirk

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