Re: [Scons-dev] Should we remove python 3.5 from our CI tests

2018-05-25 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 05/25/2018 03:44 PM, Bill Deegan wrote:
> We need to test every version we say we support.
> That's the purpose of the CI...

well, sure.

but Python itself pretty much only supports the last two 3.x versions
(there may be some emergency bugfixes later than that, if I recall the
most recent release PEP suggested a 5-year sunset even for that which
would take 3.5 out through 2019).


And Jonathon:

> No way. Distros (e.g. Debian 9) package Python 3.5.

If the model is "support whatever is supported in active Linux
distrubtions", that's a valid point. In fact, by that measure, since
long-term distributions like RHEL7 and Ubuntu 14.04 use 3.4, that should
be on the support/CI list as well.

> Are you going to drop Python 2 support too?

2.7 is still a supported version, even at python.org.


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Re: [Scons-dev] Should we remove python 3.5 from our CI tests

2018-05-25 Thread Bill Deegan
Though it's likely not worth testing both 32 and 64 bit pythons on windows.

-Bill

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> We need to test every version we say we support.
> That's the purpose of the CI...
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Mats Wichmann  wrote:
>
>> On 05/25/2018 02:59 PM, Daniel Moody wrote:
>> > Opening discussion to remove 3.5 from the CI tests.
>> >
>> > Is there any reason we need 3.5 specifically?
>> > 3.6 has been out for a while and is pretty stable.
>> >
>> > It's automated ci so there isn't much effort in keeping it part of the
>> > tests, but we should only do it if there is reason.
>> >
>> > Downside is longer ci iterations and using more resources from the
>> > generously free ci platforms.
>>
>> I'd vote - once 3.7 is out (that likely next month, no?), 3.5 should be
>> dropped. Can't test every version.
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Re: [Scons-dev] Should we remove python 3.5 from our CI tests

2018-05-25 Thread Bill Deegan
We need to test every version we say we support.
That's the purpose of the CI...

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Mats Wichmann  wrote:

> On 05/25/2018 02:59 PM, Daniel Moody wrote:
> > Opening discussion to remove 3.5 from the CI tests.
> >
> > Is there any reason we need 3.5 specifically?
> > 3.6 has been out for a while and is pretty stable.
> >
> > It's automated ci so there isn't much effort in keeping it part of the
> > tests, but we should only do it if there is reason.
> >
> > Downside is longer ci iterations and using more resources from the
> > generously free ci platforms.
>
> I'd vote - once 3.7 is out (that likely next month, no?), 3.5 should be
> dropped. Can't test every version.
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Re: [Scons-dev] Should we remove python 3.5 from our CI tests

2018-05-25 Thread Jonathon Reinhart
No way. Distros (e.g. Debian 9) package Python 3.5.

Are you going to drop Python 2 support too?

It's really not that big of a deal to test each minor version. Plenty
of open source software far less important than SCons does it.

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:10 PM, Mats Wichmann  wrote:
> On 05/25/2018 02:59 PM, Daniel Moody wrote:
>> Opening discussion to remove 3.5 from the CI tests.
>>
>> Is there any reason we need 3.5 specifically?
>> 3.6 has been out for a while and is pretty stable.
>>
>> It's automated ci so there isn't much effort in keeping it part of the
>> tests, but we should only do it if there is reason.
>>
>> Downside is longer ci iterations and using more resources from the
>> generously free ci platforms.
>
> I'd vote - once 3.7 is out (that likely next month, no?), 3.5 should be
> dropped. Can't test every version.
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Re: [Scons-dev] Should we remove python 3.5 from our CI tests

2018-05-25 Thread Mats Wichmann
On 05/25/2018 02:59 PM, Daniel Moody wrote:
> Opening discussion to remove 3.5 from the CI tests.
> 
> Is there any reason we need 3.5 specifically?
> 3.6 has been out for a while and is pretty stable.
> 
> It's automated ci so there isn't much effort in keeping it part of the
> tests, but we should only do it if there is reason.
> 
> Downside is longer ci iterations and using more resources from the
> generously free ci platforms.

I'd vote - once 3.7 is out (that likely next month, no?), 3.5 should be
dropped. Can't test every version.
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[Scons-dev] Should we remove python 3.5 from our CI tests

2018-05-25 Thread Daniel Moody
Opening discussion to remove 3.5 from the CI tests.

Is there any reason we need 3.5 specifically?
3.6 has been out for a while and is pretty stable.

It's automated ci so there isn't much effort in keeping it part of the
tests, but we should only do it if there is reason.

Downside is longer ci iterations and using more resources from the
generously free ci platforms.
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