Re: [Scons-dev] bug prune

2019-08-31 Thread Bill Deegan
Dirk,

If you can create a HTML dump, I can put it up on the scons.org webserver
and link to it.
And then maybe we create a repo to check in all the source files with
scripts to regen?

-Bill

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 5:09 AM Dirk Bächle  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> this approach sounds good to me too. I just wanted to mention that I have
> all the old Tigris Issues (and user and developer mails)
> archived on my local machine. They're stored in a simple text-ish format
> that can be read into corresponding Python classes.
> My plan is still to write a small "viewer" app, that would enable
> interested developers/users to "browse" through the "SCons
> archives". In my view there is a lot of hidden knowledge in there, that we
> can't really use at the moment.
>
> I'll try to check whether my "archive" is still up-to-date during the next
> days. ;)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dirk
>
> On 27.08.19 15:53, Gary Oberbrunner wrote:
> > I think this would be great. I'll help review the bugs-to-be-closed.
> >
> > -- Gary
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:50 AM Mats Wichmann  m...@wichmann.us>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just to pull some thoughts together:
> >
> > there are currently 679 open scons issues on github.
> >
> > That number drops to 92 if you select only ones which have had a
> > modification since the big migration from tigris. Try this query:
> >
> > is:issue is:open updated:>=2018-02-10
> >
> > or as a link:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/SCons/scons/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+updated%3A%3E%3D2018-02-10+
> >
> > I'm a relative newcomer around here, but I don't see the value of
> > showing a ton of historical bugs that aren't being worked on; the
> newly
> > filed ones don't even get a lot of attention - there just isn't a big
> > scons team at this point and numerically most current contributors
> have
> > a specific motivation ("itch to scratch" as it were) rather than the
> > ability to just generally work on bugs.  To provide more visible
> focus
> > there's already been some discussion of a bug prune.
> >
> > My suggestion is this:
> >
> > (a) close all open tigris bugs with a message that includes these
> items:
> >
> > * bug is now tracked on github [link]
> > * bugs which have not had activity in 18 months are going to be
> closed
> > (it doesn't have to be 18, but that was the cutover time)
> > * we understand readers of this issue might not see messages from
> > github, so if you want to keep this issue alive, make a comment - any
> > comment - on the corresponding github issue.
> >
> > (b) fire up a bot to mark inactive github issues with a tag, and
> > configure suitably.  Looks like there's an app in the github
> marketplace
> > that is free so setup is just a YAML file. Example setup here:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/timgrossmann/InstaPy/commit/afd968dfa1ce1141456a207484d35f2766d5916b
> >
> > the app:
> >
> > https://github.com/marketplace/stale
> >
> > (c) someone scan through the first-time closure proposal list and
> > manually update any which seem deserving of continued life.
> >
> >
> > Closed-as-stale issues don't vanish, they are still there to be
> browsed
> > as needed...
> >
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Re: [Scons-dev] bug prune

2019-08-31 Thread Dirk Bächle

Hi,

this approach sounds good to me too. I just wanted to mention that I have all 
the old Tigris Issues (and user and developer mails)
archived on my local machine. They're stored in a simple text-ish format that 
can be read into corresponding Python classes.
My plan is still to write a small "viewer" app, that would enable interested developers/users 
to "browse" through the "SCons
archives". In my view there is a lot of hidden knowledge in there, that we 
can't really use at the moment.

I'll try to check whether my "archive" is still up-to-date during the next 
days. ;)

Best regards,

Dirk

On 27.08.19 15:53, Gary Oberbrunner wrote:

I think this would be great. I'll help review the bugs-to-be-closed.

-- Gary

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:50 AM Mats Wichmann mailto:m...@wichmann.us>> wrote:


Just to pull some thoughts together:

there are currently 679 open scons issues on github.

That number drops to 92 if you select only ones which have had a
modification since the big migration from tigris. Try this query:

is:issue is:open updated:>=2018-02-10

or as a link:


https://github.com/SCons/scons/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+updated%3A%3E%3D2018-02-10+

I'm a relative newcomer around here, but I don't see the value of
showing a ton of historical bugs that aren't being worked on; the newly
filed ones don't even get a lot of attention - there just isn't a big
scons team at this point and numerically most current contributors have
a specific motivation ("itch to scratch" as it were) rather than the
ability to just generally work on bugs.  To provide more visible focus
there's already been some discussion of a bug prune.

My suggestion is this:

(a) close all open tigris bugs with a message that includes these items:

* bug is now tracked on github [link]
* bugs which have not had activity in 18 months are going to be closed
(it doesn't have to be 18, but that was the cutover time)
* we understand readers of this issue might not see messages from
github, so if you want to keep this issue alive, make a comment - any
comment - on the corresponding github issue.

(b) fire up a bot to mark inactive github issues with a tag, and
configure suitably.  Looks like there's an app in the github marketplace
that is free so setup is just a YAML file. Example setup here:


https://github.com/timgrossmann/InstaPy/commit/afd968dfa1ce1141456a207484d35f2766d5916b

the app:

https://github.com/marketplace/stale

(c) someone scan through the first-time closure proposal list and
manually update any which seem deserving of continued life.


Closed-as-stale issues don't vanish, they are still there to be browsed
as needed...

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