Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-17 Thread anatoly techtonik 
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM, anatoly techtonik 
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Bill Deegan 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anatoly,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>
>>> The RSS is an RSS feed of all posts/pages to the website.
>>>
>>
>> It is better to move all GitHub, Twitter and RSS button to one line,
>> maybe at the bottom.
>>
>
> Twitter feed on the right feels correct to me. But maybe move a lot of the
> rest to bottom or menus.
> The "Twitter", "Links" , "Social" , "Tags" come from the page templates.
>

Feed is ok. I was thinking about various social icons.


> I'm not sure if I can turn off the date stamps on the pages. Likely I can.
>>> Or perhaps just move them to the bottom of the page where they are less
>>> distracting?
>>>
>>
>> Yes. I would move them to the footer. "And remove Powered by
>> pelican-bootstrap3 ,
>> Pelican , Bootstrap
>> " and just add this info to README. It will be
>> more useful to add Edit (this page) link at the footer.
>>
>
> The source for the pages is either markdown or restructured text.  Then it
> needs to be run through pelican to generate the pages.  Not sure edit this
> page really applies in this context.
>

Applies. Take a look at readthedocs -
https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/installing.html - top right corner.


>
>>
>>>
>>> "The SCons Project @SConsProject" comes from the twitter javascript
>>> widget based on the twitter account name and the "name' associated with it.
>>> Not much we could do about that other than changing either of those on
>>> twitter.
>>>
>>
>> Is it possible do choose a different name?
>> -The SCons Project
>> +SCons Software Construction
>> +Software Construction Tool
>> +Software Construction
>>
>
> It is the "The SCons Project", or minimally "SCons", none of the other are
> names of the project and so not valid for the name on the account (IMHO).
>

Ok. Whatever. It just looks weird. Clearly it is not a project
communicating. It is a person with access to Twitter account. So even SCons
Updates is a better name IMHO.
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Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-16 Thread Bill Deegan 
Anatoly,

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM, anatoly techtonik 
wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Bill Deegan 
> wrote:
>
>> Anatoly,
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>
>> The RSS is an RSS feed of all posts/pages to the website.
>>
>
> It is better to move all GitHub, Twitter and RSS button to one line, maybe
> at the bottom.
>

Twitter feed on the right feels correct to me. But maybe move a lot of the
rest to bottom or menus.
The "Twitter", "Links" , "Social" , "Tags" come from the page templates.



>
>
>> I'm not sure if I can turn off the date stamps on the pages. Likely I can.
>> Or perhaps just move them to the bottom of the page where they are less
>> distracting?
>>
>
> Yes. I would move them to the footer. "And remove Powered by
> pelican-bootstrap3 ,
> Pelican , Bootstrap "
> and just add this info to README. It will be more useful to add Edit (this
> page) link at the footer.
>

The source for the pages is either markdown or restructured text.  Then it
needs to be run through pelican to generate the pages.  Not sure edit this
page really applies in this context.


>
>
>>
>> "The SCons Project @SConsProject" comes from the twitter javascript
>> widget based on the twitter account name and the "name' associated with it.
>> Not much we could do about that other than changing either of those on
>> twitter.
>>
>
> Is it possible do choose a different name?
> -The SCons Project
> +SCons Software Construction
> +Software Construction Tool
> +Software Construction
>

It is the "The SCons Project", or minimally "SCons", none of the other are
names of the project and so not valid for the name on the account (IMHO).

-Bill



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Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-16 Thread anatoly techtonik 
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> Anatoly,
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> The RSS is an RSS feed of all posts/pages to the website.
>

It is better to move all GitHub, Twitter and RSS button to one line, maybe
at the bottom.


> I'm not sure if I can turn off the date stamps on the pages. Likely I can.
> Or perhaps just move them to the bottom of the page where they are less
> distracting?
>

Yes. I would move them to the footer. "And remove Powered by
pelican-bootstrap3 , Pelican
, Bootstrap " and
just add this info to README. It will be more useful to add Edit (this
page) link at the footer.


>
> "The SCons Project @SConsProject" comes from the twitter javascript widget
> based on the twitter account name and the "name' associated with it. Not
> much we could do about that other than changing either of those on twitter.
>

Is it possible do choose a different name?
-The SCons Project
+SCons Software Construction
+Software Construction Tool
+Software Construction
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Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-16 Thread Bill Deegan 
Anatoly,

Thanks for your feedback.

The RSS is an RSS feed of all posts/pages to the website.

I do like your sugguestions for the links and I'll change those when I make
my next set of revisions.
I'm not sure if I can turn off the date stamps on the pages. Likely I can.
Or perhaps just move them to the bottom of the page where they are less
distracting?

"The SCons Project @SConsProject" comes from the twitter javascript widget
based on the twitter account name and the "name' associated with it. Not
much we could do about that other than changing either of those on twitter.

Changing colors should be fairly simple. I'll look into that.

_Bill


On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 1:39 AM, anatoly techtonik 
wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Bill Deegan 
> wrote:
>
>> Feedback welcome:
>>
>> http://scons.org/new
>>
>
> My overall impression on the redesign is mixed. =)
> There is some fresh air in it, but no-color design
> without pictures looks boring. Maybe I am also
> annoyed with headers being too big compared to
> the content, or that every page looks exactly the
> same, or that date field that draws my attention
> even when I just looking for contacts.
>
> Side menu is either obvious or too obscure.
> 1. SCons on Bibucket? Source code.
> 2. SCons wiki? Community wiki.
> 3. python.org? Why? How many people will be
> visiting python.org from this page?
>
> What is Social RSS and what are those Tags entry?
>
>   Social
>   RSS
>   Tags
>
> The SCons Project @SConsProject is a little boring
> nickname + full name combination, but having
> realtime ticker on the front page is good.
>
> Dynamic news entries look weird. Dropdowns are
> annoying - I like the ability of the old site to go to the
> most needed parts with a single click.
>
> Of course all design impressions are highly subjective,
> but hopefully it is at least somewhat constructive.
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Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-15 Thread anatoly techtonik 
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Bill Deegan 
wrote:

> Feedback welcome:
>
> http://scons.org/new
>

My overall impression on the redesign is mixed. =)
There is some fresh air in it, but no-color design
without pictures looks boring. Maybe I am also
annoyed with headers being too big compared to
the content, or that every page looks exactly the
same, or that date field that draws my attention
even when I just looking for contacts.

Side menu is either obvious or too obscure.
1. SCons on Bibucket? Source code.
2. SCons wiki? Community wiki.
3. python.org? Why? How many people will be
visiting python.org from this page?

What is Social RSS and what are those Tags entry?

  Social
  RSS
  Tags

The SCons Project @SConsProject is a little boring
nickname + full name combination, but having
realtime ticker on the front page is good.

Dynamic news entries look weird. Dropdowns are
annoying - I like the ability of the old site to go to the
most needed parts with a single click.

Of course all design impressions are highly subjective,
but hopefully it is at least somewhat constructive.
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Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-11 Thread Bill Deegan 
Alexandre,

Thanks!
I'll take a look at these today.
The /doc/. issue is fixed (needed symlink)
-Bill

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Alexandre Feblot 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I ran a dead link check (http://www.deadlinkchecker.com). There are a
> bunch of it.
> Also, some pages of scons.org/new refer to scons.org/ so there are
> probably absolute url too (a big part of those dead links comes from
> scons.org/docversions.php and scons.org/doc/* )
>
> See attached report.
>
>
> *--*
> Alexandre Feblot
>
> Le 11 août 2015 à 01:13, Bill Deegan  a écrit :
>
> Jonathon,
>
> Good suggestions.
>
> Not sure what's causing the news drop down to be screwy. I'm customizing
> the pelican-bootstrap theme for pelican to get the pull down menus.
>
> I'll see what I can do.
> -Bill
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Jonathon Reinhart <
> jonathon.reinh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looking good!
>>
>> Notes:
>>  * "Releases" drop-down menu overflows vertically - Not sure the best way
>> to handle this. Maybe clip it at 10 entries, and have a "More..." at the
>> bottom that goes to a page with all releases listed?
>>  * "News" drop-down menu seems to be buggy.  It's emitting entries that
>> look like this:
>>
>> http://scons.org/new/scons-awarded-two-projects-for-google-summer-of-code-2007.html";>Scons
>> awarded two projects for google > href="#summer-of-code">summer of code 2007
>>
>>  * Perhaps the Twitter icon should be changed to the SCons logo?
>>
>>
>> Jonathon Reinhart
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Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-11 Thread Alexandre Feblot 
Hi,I ran a dead link check (http://www.deadlinkchecker.com). There are a bunch of it.Also, some pages of scons.org/new refer to scons.org/ so there are probably absolute url too (a big part of those dead links comes from scons.org/docversions.php and scons.org/doc/* )See attached report.Title: Dead Link Checker reports

DeadLinkChecker.com - reports
http://scons.org/new (full scan)
Generated: 11/8/2015 10:48:21
100% scanned - 7702/7702 URLs checked, 7428 OK, 274 failed 
ErrorURLAnchor TextLinked From
404 http://scons.org/new//Users/bdbaddog/devel/scons/hg/scons-new-website/content/extra/favicon.icolink/hrefhttp://scons.org/new/
404 http://scons.org/new/RELEASE.txtRelease noteshttp://scons.org/new/scons-231-is-available.html
404 http://scons.org/new/CHANGES.txtChangeLoghttp://scons.org/new/scons-231-is-available.html
-1 Not found: The operation timed out   http://dsmit.com/cons/http://dsmit.com/cons/http://scons.org/new/faq.html
404 http://cci.lbl.gov/publications/download/compcomm_1_2003/describedhttp://scons.org/new/refer.html
404 http://scons.org/new/NoneUnreleased Ph.D. projecthttp://scons.org/new/refer.html
-1 Not found: The server name or address could not be resolved   http://www.atd.ucar.eduResearch Technology Facility, NCARhttp://scons.org/new/refer.html
-1 Not found: The operation timed out   http://dicomlib.swri.ca/dicomlib.htmlDicomlibhttp://scons.org/new/refer.html
404 http://madman.sourceforge.netmadmanhttp://scons.org/new/refer.html
404 http://sourceforge.net/projects/stringx/Stringxhttp://scons.org/new/refer.html
404 http://scons.org/new/{filenames}/development/guidelines.mdDeveloper's Guidelineshttp://scons.org/new/dev.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/latest/HTML/scons-api/index.htmlLatest API documentationhttp://scons.org/new/dev.html
404 http://scons.org/new/docversions.phpVersion Specific SCons Documentationhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/HTML/scons-man.htmlHTMLhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/PDF/scons-man.pdfPDFhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/EPUB/scons-man.epubEPUBhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/TEXT/scons-man.txtPlain texthttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/HTML/scons-user.htmlHTML (single page)http://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/HTML/scons-user/index.htmlHTML (multiple pages)http://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/PDF/scons-user.pdfPDFhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/EPUB/scons-user.epubEPUBhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/TEXT/scons-user.txtPlain texthttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/latest/PDF/scons-api.pdfPDFhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/latest/PS/scons-api.psPostScripthttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/archive/sscons/index.htmlScCons designhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/doc/production/PDF/scons-design.pdfPDFhttp://scons.org/new/documentation.html
404 http://scons.org/new/CHANGES-2.1.txtChangeLoghttp://scons.org/new/scons-210-is-available.html
404 http://scons.org/new/lists.phpdevelopers' mailing listhttp://scons.org/new/contact.html
404 http://scons.org/new/wiki/GaryOberbrunnerGary Oberbrunnerhttp://scons.org/new/contact.html
404 http://scons.org/new/wiki/WilliamDeeganWilliam Deeganhttp://scons.org/new/contact.html
404 http://scons.org/new/wiki/SergeyPopovSergey Popovhttp://scons.org/new/contact.html
404 http://scons.org/new/wiki/StevenKnightSteven Knighthttp://scons.org/new/contact.html
404 http://scons.org/new/wiki/GregNoelGreg Noelhttp://scons.org/new/contact.html
404 http://sourceforge.net/projects/scons/files/scons/2.0.1.beta.20100627/download pagehttp://scons.org/new/scons-201beta20100627-is-available.html
404 http://scons.org/new/CHANGES-2.0.txtChangeLoghttp://scons.org/new/scons-201beta20100627-is-available.html
404 http://sourceforge.net/projects/scons/files/scons/2.0.0.beta.20100605/download pagehttp://scons.org/new/scons-200beta20100605-is-available.html
404 http://www.blender.org/cms/Building_with_SCons.137.0.htmlsince January 4, 2004 [302 from http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Building_with_SCons.137.0.html]http://scons.org/new/refer.html
404 http://www.blender.org/cms/Build_systems.108.0.htmlannounced [302 from http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Build_systems.108.0.html]http://scons.org/new/refer.html
404 http://scons.org/new/CHANGES-2.x.txtChangeLoghttp://scons.org/new/scons-201-is-available.html
404 http://sourceforge.net/projects/scons/files/scons/2.0.0.beta.20100531/download pagehttp://scons.org/new/scons-200beta20100531-is-available.html
404 http://sourceforge.net/projects/scons/file

Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-10 Thread Bill Deegan 
Jonathon,

Good suggestions.

Not sure what's causing the news drop down to be screwy. I'm customizing
the pelican-bootstrap theme for pelican to get the pull down menus.

I'll see what I can do.
-Bill


On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Jonathon Reinhart <
jonathon.reinh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looking good!
>
> Notes:
>  * "Releases" drop-down menu overflows vertically - Not sure the best way
> to handle this. Maybe clip it at 10 entries, and have a "More..." at the
> bottom that goes to a page with all releases listed?
>  * "News" drop-down menu seems to be buggy.  It's emitting entries that
> look like this:
>
> http://scons.org/new/scons-awarded-two-projects-for-google-summer-of-code-2007.html";>Scons
> awarded two projects for google  href="#summer-of-code">summer of code 2007
>
>  * Perhaps the Twitter icon should be changed to the SCons logo?
>
>
> Jonathon Reinhart
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Re: [Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-10 Thread Jonathon Reinhart 
Looking good!

Notes:
 * "Releases" drop-down menu overflows vertically - Not sure the best way
to handle this. Maybe clip it at 10 entries, and have a "More..." at the
bottom that goes to a page with all releases listed?
 * "News" drop-down menu seems to be buggy.  It's emitting entries that
look like this:

http://scons.org/new/scons-awarded-two-projects-for-google-summer-of-code-2007.html";>Scons
awarded two projects for google summer of code 2007

 * Perhaps the Twitter icon should be changed to the SCons logo?


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[Scons-dev] Updated work in progress SCons.org

2015-08-10 Thread Bill Deegan 
Feedback welcome:

http://scons.org/new

Changes:
* Download page is now correct
* Mailing list page no long talks about commit mailing list which is
defunct, and has brief instructions on how to get notifications from
bitbucket.org.

-Bill
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