Re: [scots-l] Re: scots-l-digest V1 #420

2001-06-25 Thread David Kilpatrick

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
 and Mr. Iain Fraser of Glasgow, Scotland.

You mean Mr Iain Fraser of Jedburgh, Scotland. Happily living in a
better place and running Calburnie Records which is his/Alastair's label
and doing excellent work getting the Borders fiddle tradition on record
for the future.

David
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Re: [scots-l] Tow

2001-06-25 Thread David Kilpatrick

Janice Hopper wrote:
> 
> At 12:36 PM 6/24/01 -0700, you wrote:
> > > Would anyone be able to tell me what the title "Weary Pund o' Tow"
> > > means?  Its the title of a slow air from Gow's 3rd Repository.
> >
> >Tow is wool in its unspun state.  A pound of it represents one hell of
> >a lot of work ahead in spinning it.
> 
> Correction:  Tow is made up of the short fibers of flax.  To process flax,
> you take the retted stems of the plant and run them through hackles
> (essentially sharp tined combs.)  This process splits the fibers of the
> stem of the flax plant, and combs out any short bits.  The short bits are
> the tow.  The long-combed out bits frequently look very much like long
> blonde hair (hence "flaxen haired") and the short bits like short blonde
> hair (tow-headed boys.)
> 
> Spinning a pound of tow would be a lot of work!
> 
Fully agree. The process Janice describes is what I referred to in an
earlier post, but there's also a lot of work in the 'retting' (rotting)
and beating the stems to soften them. The sharp combs are relatively
modern (18th c), the hackles were once the heads of the teasel plant
also used for carding wool (and still grown, I think, in the Priory
Garden in Melrose where the main use is now in dramatic dried-flower
arrangements). There used to be teasels growing by the Tweed next to the
Hempsford reed beds which grew flax, hemp and later tobacco. There do
not seem to be any now, it's taken over entirely by Canada balsam and
giant hogweed - and they have just declared it a site of special
scientific interest, ironic considering all the old riverside flora has
been driven out completely by these rampant invaders! No wild flax, no
reeds, no hemp, no teasels or anything.

Sorry, omitted the most recent arrival which is naturalised self-set
oilseed rape, whether genetically modified or not I don't know. 

David
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Re: [scots-l] Peeri Weeri

2001-06-25 Thread David Kilpatrick

Keith W Dunn wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know the story behind this tune?  I've read that it's
> either a Shetland or Orkney tune but what about the author?  Anddoes
> anyone have a gif or jpg file of it that they could send to me off list?
> If so..send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I've searched the net through Google and wasn't able to find much at all.
>  I heard Alasdair Frasers version and liked it quiet a bit but as I said,
> I haven't been able to find any information on it or a gif \ jpg file
> anywhere.  I don't have an abc conversion program.
> 
> Also, I read that it was somehow associated to "Trowie" tunes.  So, there
> must be more.  Does anyone have a list of "Trowie or Trow" tunes?
> 
Not my field of interest, only know of the famous Peerie Willie for
anything sounding like that, fiddler not tune; but -

Peeri is faery or little people, same origin as fairy presumed from
Persian (probably not at all, but Victorian philology propagated the connection)
Trow is dwarf (in the underground, little people, otherworld sense)

So trowie and peeri would both just mean fairy tunes, of which there are
supposed to be plenty - typically, tunes which a musician will hear in a
dream or half waking, or which just come into the head as a finished
item. Most musicians who compose tunes can lay claim to getting one or
two that way!

David
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Re: [scots-l] Tenor Banjo Players in Edinburgh?

2001-06-25 Thread David Kilpatrick

Nigel Gatherer wrote:
> 
> I have been contacted by a sixth year pupil who wants to do tenor banjo
> as his second instrument for Higher Music (his first being euphonium!).
> I told him that my adult mandolin class would not satisfy him (many of
> the participants are picking up an instrument for the first time,
> without any grounding in music).
> 
> It would be good if I could direct him to a tenor banjo player who
> might give him some lessons, but I don't know any. There's a very good
> Irish player in Edinburgh, Aiden Someone - anyone know? Or do you
> perhaps know any other players who might give the lad some pointers?
> 
I've got a playable proper small Irish type tenor banjo he can have for
£100. Not like those big modern things which look like a five-string
with the wrong neck, a decent 1920s 'Maryland' branded heavy wooden
thing with a vellum skin and proper tenor scale length. Not the easiest
banjo in the world to play since it echoes like a cathedral but quite
funky. Found at a Border Union showground antiques fair for £25 and
restored, new machines, new tailpiece (fortunately had the original bridge).

Sadly I can't play it any proper sort of way or I would volunteer.
Limited to making machine gun sort of sounds in rythm with music.

David
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Re: [scots-l] Music related to Scotland Winning the World Cup in the 80's

2001-06-25 Thread Elheran Francis

Do you know of any recordings of it?

--- stan reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah you doubters. The Tune writen for this occassion
> was "The Swines Wings".
> The composer was Tam Forsyth of Stonehouse who woke
> early on the day after
> he scored the winning goal from 40 yards, to the
> sound of fellow Stonehouse
> musician, Norman Chalmers, whose concertina music
> drifted down the Sidehead
> Road.  Inspired by the sweetness of his playing, Tam
> whipped out his whistle
> and brought forth the seed of this lovely tune. He
> played the tune that
> evening at the local bowling club celebration, to
> great acclaim. Drink was
> taken, a late night end was set up, and with the
> manicured lawn heavy with
> dew, Tam took a breenge at the jack, fell backwords,
> and brained himself
> with a heavily biased wood. The tune, uncommitted to
> paper, was lost, and
> Tam never played for Scotland again.
> --
>  AY STAN
> 
> --
> >From: Anselm Lingnau
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Newsgroups: local.m2n.scots-l
> >Subject: Re: [scots-l] Music related to Scotland
> Winning the World Cup in the
> 80's
> >Date: Mon, Jun 25, 2001, 1:48 pm
> >
> 
> > In article
>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Elheran Francis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I am trying to locate information a music which
> may
> >> have been written and recorded on the occasion of
> >> Scotland Winning the World Cup in Football
> (Soccer) in
> >> the early 80's.
> >
> > Which century would that be?
> >
> > Anselm
> > --
> > Anselm Lingnau .
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > People act on fear a lot, and in fear there may be
> a financial impact. We
> don't
> > want people going and buying generators when they
> should be out buying jeans.
> >-- Director of the Year-2000 project for Levi
> Strauss, quoted by
> *Infoworld*
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Re: [scots-l] Now J F Dickie

2001-06-25 Thread Jack Campin

> What gives me most concern is that these recordings are not easily
> available for others to judge.  What do others think?

Mary-Ann Alburger is currently finishing up her PhD on Dickie.  So
presumably that thesis will get cleaned up into a book, which will
get published, which will prompt somebody into re-releasing recordings.

Give the whole process 5-10 years?



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Re: [scots-l] Music related to Scotland Winning the World Cup in the 80's

2001-06-25 Thread stan reeves

Ah you doubters. The Tune writen for this occassion was "The Swines Wings".
The composer was Tam Forsyth of Stonehouse who woke early on the day after
he scored the winning goal from 40 yards, to the sound of fellow Stonehouse
musician, Norman Chalmers, whose concertina music drifted down the Sidehead
Road.  Inspired by the sweetness of his playing, Tam whipped out his whistle
and brought forth the seed of this lovely tune. He played the tune that
evening at the local bowling club celebration, to great acclaim. Drink was
taken, a late night end was set up, and with the manicured lawn heavy with
dew, Tam took a breenge at the jack, fell backwords, and brained himself
with a heavily biased wood. The tune, uncommitted to paper, was lost, and
Tam never played for Scotland again.
--
 AY STAN

--
>From: Anselm Lingnau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Newsgroups: local.m2n.scots-l
>Subject: Re: [scots-l] Music related to Scotland Winning the World Cup in the
80's
>Date: Mon, Jun 25, 2001, 1:48 pm
>

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Elheran Francis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to locate information a music which may
>> have been written and recorded on the occasion of
>> Scotland Winning the World Cup in Football (Soccer) in
>> the early 80's.
>
> Which century would that be?
>
> Anselm
> --
> Anselm Lingnau .
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> People act on fear a lot, and in fear there may be a financial impact. We
don't
> want people going and buying generators when they should be out buying jeans.
>-- Director of the Year-2000 project for Levi Strauss, quoted by
*Infoworld*
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[scots-l] RE:RE: Music related to Scotland Winning the World Cup in the 80's

2001-06-25 Thread Elheran Francis

Well since Shinty (Camanachd) is my Sport of
preference, I must confess ignorance of Scottish
Football. Another source has suggested it might have
been the Scottish Rugby Team making it into the World
Cup finals, but necesaarily winning the Cup.
I have heard the recording, I believe it was a Medley
of Jigs/Reels either written or arranged to
acknowledge the occasion. Defintely not a Rugby
Anthem, as it was purely instrumental.



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[scots-l] Re: Weary Pund o Tow

2001-06-25 Thread AIKUNTZ



Many thanks to all who responded with your great information on this title. 

Regards, Andrew Kuntz
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RE: [scots-l] Great posts..

2001-06-25 Thread Jonathan Hill

Yeah; loved the one about Scotland winning the world cup. I've got We're on
the March Wi' Ally's Army somewhere if that's any use to anyone (B side the
inimitable 'I Want tae be a Punk Rocker)...O tempora, O mores.
Jonathan

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Subject: [scots-l] Great posts..


Thanks for all the good posts lately. I am certainly enjoying them.

Toby Rider
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[scots-l] Roy Williamson

2001-06-25 Thread Nigel Gatherer

Roy Williamson, born this day 65 years ago.

Founding member of The Corrie Group in 1961 with Bill Smith and Ron
Cruikshank, then The Corrie Folk Trio and Paddie Bell; first public
appearance at The Waverley Bar, Edinburgh. Ronnie Brown joined in 1962,
and eventually The Corries became a duo, becoming one of the most
popular acts in the commercial/showbiz end of the folk music scene. Roy
died of a brain tumour in August 1990.

-- 
Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland
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RE: [scots-l] Tin Whistle Bands

2001-06-25 Thread Manuel Waldesco



 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Stuart Eydmann 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 1:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [scots-l] Tin Whistle 
  Bands
  
  
   
   
  The histories of the penny whistle and 
  flute bands in Scotland have still to be written. I'd be very interested in 
  any further refrences to Scotland.
   
  - Well, me too, not only of bands but 
  also of the history of the instrument: until know I've just seen some 
  instruments in the Reid Collection (London-made whistles ranging from Bb to G, 
  I think) and the "medieval" pennywhistle found in excavations in North 
  Berwick. It would be interesting to know more old whistle makers in Scotland 
  and England apart from the well known Rober Clarke.
   
  Anyway, many thanks for the 
  information,
   
  Manuel 
Waldesco


Re: [scots-l] Music related to Scotland Winning the World Cup in the 80's

2001-06-25 Thread Anselm Lingnau

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Elheran Francis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to locate information a music which may
> have been written and recorded on the occasion of
> Scotland Winning the World Cup in Football (Soccer) in
> the early 80's.

Which century would that be?

Anselm
-- 
Anselm Lingnau . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People act on fear a lot, and in fear there may be a financial impact. We don't
want people going and buying generators when they should be out buying jeans.
   -- Director of the Year-2000 project for Levi Strauss, quoted by *Infoworld*
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