[scots-l] Music teachers (was: player pianos)

2003-02-05 Thread Toby Rider

 At 10:55 AM 2/4/03 -0800, you wrote:
He eventually yelled at
me and threw me out for good when he found out that I was playing
 traditional music.

 That just makes me cringe! I can't stand teachers like that. Actually,
 no,  I change that. I appreciate teachers like that, because those
 students  generally end up coming to teachers like myself, and that's
 one way I make  my living. I have 18 piano students now, and I'd say
 half of them came from  a teacher who fired them because they didn't
 progress at the proper  pace or wanted to play inappropriate
 repertoire or didn't pay  attention or some such fool thing.


 There actually are a whole lot of teachers like that, aren't there? It's
too bad. I've become good at sniffing them out. One quality that I think
is essential in a good music teacher is being able to pick up on the
character of any particular student. Some people like to be pushed hard,
some people not so hard, so people need things to be really ordered and
regimented, so people need things to be more loose, some people like alot
of explanation, some people like to figure it out for themselves, some
people need alot of verbal reassurance, some people are good with just a
nod, etc.
 I've said this before, but I believe that being a good teacher and being
a good player are two entirely different skills.
 My voice teacher is great in that respect. I think she sized up me up in
one lesson, because I'm very happy with the speed of my progress and I
constantly feel like I'm being pushed with hard stuff, which is important
to me, because I get bored easily if I'm not constantly challenged.


Toby



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Re: [scots-l] Music teachers (was: player pianos)

2003-02-05 Thread Irene Shelton
I have a teaching and repetoire-related question ..
I teach both piano at all levels, and violin at the beginner level (Kate D,
my all-time most favourite teacher- yes, you're allowed to laugh - and
cringe - at the latter !! :-)  ) The parents of one of my very young, very
beginner fiddle students are VERY keen on their daughter learning some Cape
Breton / Scottish tunes as part of her instruction .. (they are big Natalie
fans). However - even simple tunes like Mairi's Wedding are proving to be a
challenge - can anyone suggest any simple but fairly recognizable /
memorable tunes that would be suitable for young children to learn by ear?
Thanks - I realize that this is a bit off topic, but any help would be
greatly appreciated.


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RE: [scots-l] Music teachers (was: player pianos)

2003-02-05 Thread Toby Rider


  I've said this before, but I believe that being a good teacher and
 being
 a good player are two entirely different skills.


 Toby


  Yes. And I wish the vast majority of festival/school organisers would
 pay
 attention to this fact. Brilliant musician does not necessarily mean
 brilliant teacher. And we need more brilliant teachers than brilliant
 musicians at this point.

 Sharon Knowles

  Alot of the very best musicians can't even tell you what they're doing.
That doesn't detract from their abilities or expresiveness. It just means
that they haven't spent time developing that skill. It's definately a
separate skill.. Articulating what to do and how to do it in way that
connects with lots of different people is no easy task. Espcially if
you're trying to teach little kids!
 Here is the US, teachers of any kind don't get the kind of respect or
compensation they deserve (but that's a different story).
 One of the best music teachers I've ever dealt with is Stan Chapman, from
Nova Scotia. I have endless respect for that man.
 His day job is actually as an elementary school music teacher. Bless his
heart, he has the patience of a saint and cast iron eardrums.
 Stan was the guy who taught all these players of my generation, that sort
of turned things around with the music, Natalie MacMaster, Ashley
MacIsaac, Wendy MacIsaac, Jackie Dunn.. Those folks.
 One of the things that strikes me most about Stan's teaching is his
flexibility. For instance, he told me that after having a long talk with
Angus (Ashley's dad). They decided to let him keep playing the fiddle off
the right shoulder, yet still strung up like a right-handed instrument.
It's a highly unorthodox position, even for traditional musicians. What
it does is effects the tone quality in strange sorts of ways. Think of
it, all the strings are backwards!
 If you've ever heard Ashley play, there's something about his sound that
is different from anyone else. There's sort of this ringing bite that
hangs around as a constant undercurrent. I could pick out his playing in
a second.
 Stan was flexible about that. My first teacher wasn't. I myself am
left-handed, and my first teacher forced me to play off my left shoulder,
with my left hand on the wood, becuase it is the correct way.
 Stan showed me some tunes one time, and I played them straight a few
times, then tried to make them sound the way I wanted them to.. Rather
then saying what the hell are you doing?, he smiled and said something
like Ah okay, having fun with them already?
 The world needs more teachers like Stan.


Toby






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